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I noticed that the Evo has a touch sensitive lag that is more apparent than any other device. A lot of noobs here thought it was due to the FPS but obviously it wasn't. I can figure it out myself because logically, screen size does not change how heat is transfered between the screen. I'm really curious what exactly it is.... notice how on the iPhone/iPad/iTouch there is zero to no lag in touch display and movement which is what makes gaming on Apple so wicked. The Evo is by far the worst device for this.... Its not a deal breaker by any means, but it is very noticeable when switching between an Apple product and the Evo.
Anyone got any theories as to what it may be? The lag is definitely there but nobody is really talking about it. There MUST be a fix - and NO its not putting custom rom like CM6 on it... its not a rom issue.
I really hope that in future devices Android phone makers will focus on reducing lag times. If there is any apparent gap between iOS and Android besides that app market it would be the lag issue. The reason I even thought of this was when reading a gaming thread earlier today - made me curious...
Oh I totally agree! Just spent 30 mins on 1 level of angry birds trying to be precise and ugh....I'm still trying to calm down.....damn frustration. I've never really spent more than 5 mins with an apple phone so I can't compare. But I could totally tell the lag. But really I've only actually noticed it a couple of times so I dunno what's up
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werxen said:
There MUST be a fix - and NO its not putting custom rom like CM6 on it... its not a rom issue.
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Well of course you're right...
Though I have seen the lag disappear with the addition of Kingx BFS11 kernel. So technically it's not a rom, but a kernel has fixed it for me.
willy900wonka said:
Well of course you're right...
Though I have seen the lag disappear with the addition of Kingx BFS11 kernel. So technically it's not a rom, but a kernel has fixed it for me.
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Really? So it does not matter how fast you move left to right the screen stays perfectly in sync with the origin....?
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Really? So it does not matter how fast you move left to right the screen stays perfectly in sync with the origin....?
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Or even in circles.
Well, my EVO is pretty responsive, scrolling and pressing things is super responsive.
Kinda weird, but I open the App menu and just scroll through the apps list up and down, kinda weird but it's just fascinates me sometimes .
Maybe you have too much processes going on?
I'm using EvIo Caulkin ROM
Yeah, this problem was a big letdown for me... like you said, not a deal breaker, but very annoying. It just seems to be tiny things that they overlooked. But it appears not so tiny when a lot of other people notice the issue as well.
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Weird. I'm using 100% stock Evo and I also have used an iPhone extensively, and I don't notice any difference to be totally honest... the complete opposite in fact. I've always concluded the Evo was one of the best.
I'm just an average user, maybe I'm not trained enough to notice lol.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
No problems here
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I only notice it with Sense UI... Other phones like the Epic or whatever, seem to have less of a lag with touch. The minute I install an AOSP ROM, it's butter smooth and more responsive.
And it's not a ROM issue, just a Sense issue.
DC 3.6 and net's 4.2.1 bfs. Responsive as hell. Though, before the fps fixes, lag and studder were very apparent.
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The iPhone's touch panel is just better.
dglowe343 said:
DC 3.6 and net's 4.2.1 bfs. Responsive as hell. Though, before the fps fixes, lag and studder were very apparent.
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That's not what the OP is talking about. You're thinking of "visual smoothness", the OP is talking about touch accuracy.
Here's a article that goes into it and shows how much better the iPhone is. It's from earlier this year, so no EVO or iPhone 4 comparisons, but it should be a similar case for both.
never had any issues with screen lag/responsiveness.
On a side note though, and very weird, I went to do a test in Angry Birds like someone had mentioned and Angry Birds was mysteriously no longer installed on my phone...bizarre....
Well, guess I misunderstood the OP as well. Mine is very responsive. Sorry.
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I'm using MIUI and Zen kernel and have no noticeable lag, even when playing games. I will say, however, that the glass screen of the iPhone does give it a performance boost on touchscreen response.
i had some lag issues with fresh 3.4 with the stock kernel switched to kings bfs 11 touch lag gone don't know why but it was switched to net's and lag was back left that kernel on and recalibrated the touch screen by calibrateing the keyboard and lag disapeared again but that was me don't know if it will work for anyone else
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The iPhone's touch panel is just better.
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Actually, the touch panel on the evo is simply the best on the market. Look up Atmel MaXTouch... This might simply be a driver issue or even a design decision.
Atmel maXtouch: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp
Unlimited touches
Low power consumption
Fast response — completely redraws screen every 4/1000 of a second (4ms) to
eliminate recalibration issues
Excellent signal-to-noise ratio for superior precision — 3x better than competitive
products
Superior performance for first-touch response — 3x better than competitive
products
Unambiguous, unlimited touch support
Responsive user interface: > 250 Hz report rate for a single touch
Extremely low current consumption: < 1.8 mW in "touch-ready" state
Two touch adjacency of less than 10 mm on a 4.3 inch (10.9 cm) touchscreen
Small footprint with few external components
Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves
Grip and face suppression functionality: avoids false touches
Size and angle of touch supported
Screen sizes up to 10.2 inches (25.9 cm) are supported by a single chip
Proximity channel support
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It even supports gloved hands if the OEM wants that enabled.
The only lag I have is when the phone is plugged in/charging. Other than that there is absolutely no other lag on my Evo. Those that are experiencing lag make sure it's not during charging.
On a side note the OP is truly an iPhone bias according to his previous post. Thought It's pretty funny.
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I noticed that the Evo has a touch sensitive lag that is more apparent than any other device. A lot of noobs here thought it was due to the FPS but obviously it wasn't. I can figure it out myself because logically, screen size does not change how heat is transfered between the screen. I'm really curious what exactly it is.... notice how on the iPhone/iPad/iTouch there is zero to no lag in touch display and movement which is what makes gaming on Apple so wicked. The Evo is by far the worst device for this.... Its not a deal breaker by any means, but it is very noticeable when switching between an Apple product and the Evo.
Anyone got any theories as to what it may be? The lag is definitely there but nobody is really talking about it. There MUST be a fix - and NO its not putting custom rom like CM6 on it... its not a rom issue.
I really hope that in future devices Android phone makers will focus on reducing lag times. If there is any apparent gap between iOS and Android besides that app market it would be the lag issue. The reason I even thought of this was when reading a gaming thread earlier today - made me curious...
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If you're up-to-date and you have a significant amount of free space on your internal storage and your phone is still laggy... return it because it's obviously defective.
Try a factory reset and/or a new kernel. Then kill off some of the sprint and htc bloatware.
Going from HTC Kernel #11 to #17 there was a noticeable difference in performance for me.
Going from there to AOSP was a complete improvement.
The stock rom is unbearable once you use a tweaked rom.
If none of that works I would bet your phone is defective and you should go back to your iphone.
Want to supply us with a software version and kernel version of your phone?
Or atleast something more than "The Evo sucks and the iphone is great"
I have been using Android since cupcake and it's going to end with my Nexus One. Reasons:
These are problems I've had with various roms, most stock roms, some MIUI:
- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
- My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
- To fix the above I got Better Keyboard. It force closes often, and sometimes when I try to type with it what I'm typing doesn't get inserted into the selected input box.
- I got five hours of STANDBY (not using phone at all) battery life on Gingerbread. I had to downgrade back to froyo to get normal battery life back.
- After ten seconds or so if you don't use your screen it's supposed to DIM. Regardless of whether or not I'm using my phone it still dims after ten seconds.
So as far as Android goes come October when my three year Bell contract expires I'll be selecting an iPhone. I am done with Android problems of all kinds. That's not to say there's not a lot of things I like about Android but I can't just keep on going with it whilst experiencing these annoying problems, when I've never experienced any problems of any sort on my jailbroken iPad.
Did you ever try using your warranty? Really sounds like you had a dodgy handset.
Sounds like your phone is a lemon. I experience none of that....don't think anything you mentioned is a problem of android itself, you just got unlucky with your phone
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Sounds like some bad flashing you been doing to your phone
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lemons
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You must be holding it wrong, those are some crazy problems you are experiencing ... I've never had any of those.
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- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
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Not related to Android in the slightest. You're having a HARDWARE problem.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
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Not related to Android in the slightest. You're having a HARDWARE problem.
My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
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In all of my time with Android, on multiple devices, I have NEVER once seen this issue. Something is wrong with the custom rom you're running... which btw, YOU flashed on your phone.
To fix the above I got Better Keyboard. It force closes often, and sometimes when I try to type with it what I'm typing doesn't get inserted into the selected input box.
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So some janky app YOU installed is causing a problem? Uninstall it and find something better.
I got five hours of STANDBY (not using phone at all) battery life on Gingerbread. I had to downgrade back to froyo to get normal battery life back.
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Did you try and diagnose this at all? Were you having a wake lock issue? Was some app freezing?
I go all day on Gingerbread, especially if I don't even use it...
After ten seconds or so if you don't use your screen it's supposed to DIM. Regardless of whether or not I'm using my phone it still dims after ten seconds.
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Again, this sounds like either something wrong with your rom or a hardware issue. I have never seen this issue.
Yeah, you're an idiot. Sorry, but you're blaming problems that either you have created or hardware problems on Android, the operating system.
But go ahead and leave Android. It sounds like you're not really technology capable of much more than an iPhone (and really, this is probably going to be pushing your technological limits it seems), so that is probably what you should stick to.
I won't be as harsh as the others
The only problem you mentioned that is N1 related is the screen, rest are probably rom related. If your flahsing all those roms you already know they are not guaranteed to work on all phones.
If you want to try another phone, try the new Sensation or equivalent. Android is still much better than Apple. IMHO. That said, my son and his wife have been Apple users for 20 years or as long as I can remember. They have used nothing else. So, I think the iphone is a good phone, just not for everyone. As android is not for everyone. I once thought Blackberry was unbeatable, I was wrong bigtime. When I first started using them, they may have been. But, not any more.
You are probably like me and get an itch to try something different. I am currently running RCADSmix Sense rom with a number of issues. But, I like it so much, I will put up with the issues. Probably means my next phone will be the Sensation or it's future quadcore brother.
Enjoy whatever you get, I still remember when a six transistor am radio was an upgrade. These are great tech times--
Ken
If you really can't realize that the problems you are experiencing are hardware related...it's probably better you get an iphone. Bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out
So as far as Android goes come October when my three year Bell contract expires I'll be selecting an iPhone. I am done with Android problems of all kinds. That's not to say there's not a lot of things I like about Android but I can't just keep on going with it whilst experiencing these annoying problems, when I've never experienced any problems of any sort on my jailbroken iPad.
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Im just guessing here but your in Canada with bell? bell doesn't offer the nexus one. how are you on a contract? Ill also agree with everyone else your problems are not android related. Sounds like a hardware issue. Good luck with the iPhone my brother loves his. I like the design but that's it.
Just flashed cyanogen latest version. New problems:
1. Sometimes when turning on the phone the lock screen doesn't show up, just my background displays and nothing else. Reboot required by pulling battery out in order to fix.
2. Display menus don't show up sometimes.
3. Already experienced this one, but the keyboard is yet again going completely white.
Anyone want to point me towards an actual working rom without any problems or does such a thing exist
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Im just guessing here but your in Canada with bell? bell doesn't offer the nexus one. how are you on a contract? Ill also agree with everyone else your problems are not android related. Sounds like a hardware issue. Good luck with the iPhone my brother loves his. I like the design but that's it.
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I bought it outright two years into my contract when I had a vogue.
Babydoll25 said:
If you really can't realize that the problems you are experiencing are hardware related...it's probably better you get an iphone. Bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out
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Because not all of these problems are with the hardware and you, or myself are incapable of diagnosing them without more extensive investigation to the handset.
Roms work fine. Your phone doesn't
Most people have no or little problems with these roms
Most if not all issues are improper flashing or incomplete wipes--like not wiping system and data and caches multiple times
Check md5s
Or, not properly partitioning sdcard
If still issues then the phone has too many bad blocks for the rom and kernal
Ken
After reading your first post again, I think it is your phone and not common issues. I have never had a bad camera unless specifically noted on the OP page of an alpha type rom.
I can tell you how I do my sdcard and prepare for a new rom if you like. If my procedure doesn't work you will never have any better luck flashing with that particular phone.
Sorry
Ken
I'm with Telus on my N1 and i've never ever seen any of the problems you mentioned. I've also flashed alot of different roms/kernels/apps/etc and nothing like you had mentioned.
I did however have an issue that resembles your camera issue. Mine was the GPS causing my phone to reboot every time i used it. I didn't really notice it much until i started using it for GPS nav and such. Tried flashing different roms, going back to stock and issue still came up. Called HTC and sent my phone back under warranty. They told me they replaced the board and i have not seen the problem ever since.
I strongly recommend giving HTC a call and see if you can send your phone in for repairs.
That's what iPhone is for. To protect incompetents like yourself from themselves.
You should be nowhere near a rooted phone.
I have the exact same camera issue. The reason is a date of my beloved Nexus and my washing mashine. So it might be a hardware problem for you as well. Sometimes with some roms the camera seems to work 1 out of 10 times.
Bluetooth, fm radio died as well but everthing else is just fine. Some roms seem to check/use camera, radio or bluetooth during a reboot. Then the rom won't start at all or it makes random problems.
This phone is a beast. 20 minutes in the washing mashine at 60°C couldn't really destroy it. Even between screen and digitizer there was water and I had to disamble the phone three times and dry the parts for one week in a rice bowl to get it to work again.
xManMythLegend said:
That's what iPhone is for. To protect incompetents like yourself from themselves.
You should be nowhere near a rooted phone.
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sent from SGS Captivate 2.3.4 with CM7 or MIUI using Escapist or TKglitch
- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
- My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
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Got this also, annoying but I'm quite sure it goes along with flashes. Pretty sure it will be normal on stock rom.
Actually mate I think you should upgrade your radio...
I used to have this issue with the camera before, get the latest radio and ur camera issue will be solved.
and the battery as well i guess
as for the keyboard and all the other problems just go to rom manager and flash cm 7.1 rc1 from there, make sure you wipe cache, and dalvik cache
it should solve ur issues
Android is a more technical platform, it is by default that the user likes going technical before getting an android
Hello all, I have 1 issue with my A500. Only during charger plug in, my tab become super lag. This problem started when I doing overclock using flexreaper extreme.
Tried to flash new kernel from eztery, upgrade bootloader to v8, and flash lightspeed ics rom. None of these works as I still have this problem. Even on recovery screen, my tab is not responsive when charger plugged in.
I don't know what caused this. Is anyone having the same problem? Please help.
im on the same but no probs while charging, maybe titanium backup,. nandroid and wipe all and re-install flexreaper
actually i've tried that already. Real format and wipe all and flash different rom and kernel. Strangely it just heppen while charging. Do you think this is hardware problem?
kazai said:
actually i've tried that already. Real format and wipe all and flash different rom and kernel. Strangely it just heppen while charging. Do you think this is hardware problem?
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i think it must be as ive never read anything about this anywhere before did it do this when you was stock?
I never have this when on stock. Even after on flexreaper for few months also no problem. This only happen after upgrade to flexreaper extreme with OC. Weird.
have you clocked it back to 1ghz? might help you out? im not really sure dud srry
Does your tablet have a loud screen whine while it charges? Mine has been doing that for sometime now...
bouncer665 said:
Does your tablet have a loud screen whine while it charges? Mine has been doing that for sometime now...
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def take it back and get a replacement that's a hardware flaw another member posted about that then eventually his tab died and wouldnt charge up, if i was you matey i would take it back asap to show them the whining sound so they cannot say you did something to break it, plus you'll have that noted down incase they dont do anything and it then does break.
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Does your tablet have a loud screen whine while it charges? Mine has been doing that for sometime now...
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Mine have no sound while charging. It charge the battery as usual. Only the tab become less responsive and typing using on-screen keyboard is a headache.
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have you clocked it back to 1ghz? might help you out? im not really sure dud srry
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Tried that already, still have problem. I can minimize the problem by increasing the minimum frequency to 600+MHz.
The whine could also be capacitors (if any) on the logic board that are about to burst or something. Or something is overloaded and getting stressed out.
I don't believe its lag. The switching power supply causes some touch screens (such as mine) to become less sensitive requiring much harder finger presses
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I don't believe its lag. The switching power supply causes some touch screens (such as mine) to become less sensitive requiring much harder finger presses
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Bingo. You are right. I just realize that. It is actually less sensitive. Do you have any idea how to solve it?
kazai said:
Hello all, I have 1 issue with my A500. Only during charger plug in, my tab become super lag. This problem started when I doing overclock using flexreaper extreme.
Tried to flash new kernel from eztery, upgrade bootloader to v8, and flash lightspeed ics rom. None of these works as I still have this problem. Even on recovery screen, my tab is not responsive when charger plugged in.
I don't know what caused this. Is anyone having the same problem? Please help.
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If it worked on other versions, just flash back to what worked before or back to ota for real proof. You said it worked till you changed software, so change back and prove it's not hardware.
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Bingo. You are right. I just realize that. It is actually less sensitive. Do you have any idea how to solve it?
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I found some weird results by making a circuit. Try touching the tab with one finger and a laptop track pad with another. There's a tingle. I think it's a design defect internally - perhaps the screen assembly is touching something it shouldn't be. So in terms of a solution, I don't believe there is one, unless there's a way to earth the screen?
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I have once dissemble the back cover. I'm not sure whether this is where the problem started. But I don't have this problem initially. Something is wrong with my device, just don't know where's the problem come from. I might touch something causing short circuit or something.
Tried flashing the stock ROM and still no luck. I don't think its a software issue.
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I have once dissemble the back cover. I'm not sure whether this is where the problem started. But I don't have this problem initially. Something is wrong with my device, just don't know where's the problem come from. I might touch something causing short circuit or something.
Tried flashing the stock ROM and still no luck. I don't think its a software issue.
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My tablet hasn't been opened and it still has this problem but not always. It hasn't done it recently.
I'm sure it's not a software thing but for the record I'm on Thor's ROM
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Today I noticed something. I do have this problem when charging at my office. Looks like this issue only happen at certain wall plug. It happen at my house but not my office. Could be something with grounding.
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kazai said:
Today I noticed something. I do have this problem when charging at my office. Looks like this issue only happen at certain wall plug. It happen at my house but not my office. Could be something with grounding.
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Perhaps it is to do with the consistency of the power supply. My house is pretty old so I suppose there would be more voltage variation. When I get home I'll try and find a spare surge protector and see if it stops the issues. The actual existence of the issues is pretty sporadical though. There is no clear answer to this.
I do think you're onto something though
I wonder if anyone is also experiencing sensitivity issues with the new 38R OTA.
In my case It is evident when scrolling (homescreen, twitter, whatsapp....) and typing. Also the capacitive buttons seem a bit unresponsive from time to time.
What about you guys?
Edit: here you have the prove (bad scrolling and multitouch problem) i think i am going to RMA
Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src
Edit:
Suddenly the issue has been gone for a week, no problems at all since 15 October... I am so confused
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The sensibility issue is back on 24/10/2014 without changing anything
QuBeX said:
I wonder if anyone is also experiencing sensitivity issues with the new 38R OTA.
In my case It is evident when scrolling (homescreen, twitter, whatsapp....) and typing. Also the capacitive buttons seem a bit unresponsive from time to time.
What about you guys?
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Yes, I also still have troubles with it. I especially notice it when typing.
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Yes, I also still have troubles with it. I especially notice it when typing.
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Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time
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Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time
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I am really not sure... the last couple days I was on 33R CM11S with AK kernel and did not notice the problem at all. But it is not something that happens often in my case. So it is possible that I just did not wait long enough for it to appear.
I will stay on stock cm11s 38R for a few more days and then probably switch back to AK kernel to see if my previous experience is reproducible.
Did you even try to use a different kernel? Did you still have the issue?
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I am really not sure... the last couple days I was on 33R CM11S with AK kernel and did not notice the problem at all. But it is not something that happens often in my case. So it is possible that I just did not wait long enough for it to appear.
I will stay on stock cm11s 38R for a few more days and then probably switch back to AK kernel to see if my previous experience is reproducible.
Did you even try to use a different kernel? Did you still have the issue?
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Just flashed AK, It seems that the unresponsiveness is still there
I am really dissapointed, i though this OTA would solve sensitivity problem...
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Just flashed AK, It seems that the unresponsiveness is still there
I am really dissapointed, i though this OTA would solve sensitivity problem...
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Sorry to hear it did not help.
I have also just noticed this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55195972&postcount=62 which suggests macgyvering an improved grounding for the phone. I have to admit that I don't understand exactly what to do. But it might become clearer if I get frustrated enough to actually open up the phone
Please let me know if you try it and it works.
Touch screen is still going to be an issue. You can check the original bug which was reported here (still says in progress) https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/BACON-55
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Sorry to hear it did not help.
I have also just noticed this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55195972&postcount=62 which suggests macgyvering an improved grounding for the phone. I have to admit that I don't understand exactly what to do. But it might become clearer if I get frustrated enough to actually open up the phone
Please let me know if you try it and it works.
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It could work but i don't want to touch inside the phone very much, I don't want to void my warranty. I think I will RMA with this video I just made. Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src
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It could work but i don't want to touch inside the phone very much, I don't want to void my warranty. I think I will RMA with this video I just made. Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src
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You should just know that OPO's customer service while polite, will give you the run around a while. Took me about a month before they finally granted the RMA.
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You should just know that OPO's customer service while polite, will give you the run around a while. Took me about a month before they finally granted the RMA.
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Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.
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Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.
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Not sure since I just requested a new phone.
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Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.
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They will, at least, replace your phone. I did and am waiting for my new one to arrive. If multitouch issues remain (and most likely will) i'll ask for a refund. I don't really care if the phone is "cheap for specs", this flaw is unacceptable.
My S3 is much worse hardware wise and feels SO much better while typing or anything else touch related. I did have to open a ticket and later show up a few videos of multitouch malfunctioning to oneplus. They decided it was a malfunctioning unit and i was eligible for a replacement. They never mentioned bacon 55 or a "known issue" common to every phone that would be solved at some point later on.
It's taking forever too. It's been over a month and it's mainly their fault because they take so long to reply to every single email. They did ask my VAT number before hand so they could send an invoice with it to my customs that would facilitate the returning process. Despite that, my phone got stuck on my country's customs precisely because they sent them an invoice without it and was up to me to ask it to oneplus. I waited about a week for what seems an poorly excel made document (compared to my country's invoices this is a joke of a document ). I sent it to the courier who picked up and they forwarded it to customs. Stuff went smooth from that point on. Oh yea, i'm from Portugal and even though my phone was sent to me from the UK the first time, to return a phone, you're going to send it to Hong Kong. All free of charge. I did have to print loads of pre made documents (about 10 pages?), because apparently sending anything with a battery is a big deal safety wise.
Even though they are, like someone said, polite, they do take a good while to reply to anything and aren't very keen to answer to anything that falls a bit out of their "process". For example, I've asked them several times if they would send me a new phone before or after a return mine. They never really cared enough to answer. Their English also seems translated by google sometimes. Several different people may take care of the same case. I've had about 5 or 6 different names reply to me and they all just use their first name like "Wilona". It made me stop to think i was sending my already paid phone to some place across the world because this randomly named guy told me so by email - in any other different scenario this would scream of a scam. But I've placed my RMA through an official ticket on their website, they actually made a new order request from their store on their website, they use very well known couriers with tracking numbers and it's the only way i'm ever getting a chance of having a properly working phone.
I did warn them before sending my "faulty" unit back they can expect me asking for a full refund if this new one isn't working any better.
I have been on liquidsmooth rom since I got the phone, no problems with touchscreen whatsoever, Installed new 38 CMS today and started to experience that problem. Also, cms lags compare to AOSP, this is pretty weird
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Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time
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Flashing ColorOS for me gave a much better touchscreen experience, things worked flawlessly in all apps for me(Amazon is my biggest issue, any scrolling over a description/review would select it and move you to that section to read it, does not happen at all in ColorOS), so im thinking its software
This issue is so exaggerated...
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What is the touchscreen issue that people are referring to? Mine seems perfect? The only issue is the slight yellow at the bottom but you only notice it if you actually go looking for it.
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This issue is so exaggerated...
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Not really. It's bothersome.
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Mines slightly yellow at the bottom, appears to be getting a bit better though, unless thats just my eyes playing tricks on me. I haven't noticed touchscreen issues except i can't seem to press the spacebar properly
My touchscreen seems to be very picky as to where I touch. Sometimes it takes a few attempts. Since 38 I have had random reboots. I m stock rooted without anything else flashed.
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This issue is so exaggerated...
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If you can say that you're a lucky one. It can render your phone completely unusable. Imagine your phone randomly assuming touches when you're not even touching it, non stop (stuff opening, key input, etc). You can't do anything else while it happens and the only way to stop is by rebooting. 5 to 10 times a day, everyday. Also, just about anything multitouch like simply zooming on a webpage has a 50% chance of working or send your phone spazing on a zooming in/out frenzy. So I'd say it isn't exaggerating, you just aren't experiencing the worse of it.
Has anyone else here played this game on the essential phone? I have a couple of strange glitches. I initially thought they were associated to my original faulty device, but after receiving my warranty replacement that is not faulty the same issues still persist on PUBG Mobile. So I am assuming it's something with this phone in general.
First glitch is some artifacting during the loading screen on the notch end of the phone. I am assuming this is because of the screen resizing to accommodate for the notch. It seems like it starts to attempt to resize the screen a few times in a row every once in a while resulting in what looks like some screen glitching. I've noticed this in other apps while using them too like chrome and OfferUp. Looks like every once in a while the app suddenly attempts to resize back to full screen mode for a split second, then immediately shrinks back down again to cut out the notch area.
Other issue is while using both fingers on the screen at the same time. Moving while aiming for instance it will spin my character around a little bit.
Doesn't display any of this behavior on any other phones I've ever had. I already contacted the publisher of the game but Wondering if anyone else has these issues and knows a workaround.
Android P fixes all of the touch related bugs. Game is running flawlessly on my phone
crixley said:
Android P fixes all of the touch related bugs. Game is running flawlessly on my phone
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I'm on P also, but I still get the glitch that I got in Oreo
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I'm on P also, but I still get the glitch that I got in Oreo
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Strange, I don't at all. I full wiped and flashed from fastboot though. Did you ota?
So you still have the graphical glitches?
How do I get P?
Also is it possible to force games and other apps to utilize the full screen pace around the notch? As much as I don't like apple I do notice in YouTube videos that it does fully utilize the notch area on the iPhone X.
Alright nevermind found the settings in developer options from YouTube video to force all apps to use the notch area.
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Strange, I don't at all. I full wiped and flashed from fastboot though. Did you ota?
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I flashed the ota through adb, did not factory reset though. I think the issue is involving the multi touch that was broken in and 8.1, and I don't think Google has fixed the issue
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I flashed the ota through adb, did not factory reset though. I think the issue is involving the multi touch that was broken in and 8.1, and I don't think Google has fixed the issue
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Yes they have. Lol I'm using it fine right now.
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Yes they have. Lol I'm using it fine right now.
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Well I'm still having issues with mine
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Well I'm still having issues with mine
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Like I said before, I flashed the full fastboot file, not just the ota. It is fixed completely. You could try that.
Yes! God, I thought I was the only one with the multi touch issue..but I'm too lazy and stupid to get P so I suppose I'm out of luck.
There's a fix for the multi touch glitch bug. It's a magisk module called "Pixel 8.1 multi-touch fix".
Let me warn you, DO NOT install it if you are on the stock essential ROM, because it will fail to boot. It is only safe on AOSP based ROMs. I can only vouch for myself that it works flawlessly with lineage. If you are on stock ROM you'll have to wait until essential releases a fix.
I just read up on it a little. Apparently it's an issue with all phones running 8.1.0 Oreo witch I did not know. My original essential PH1 was faulty, kept crashing and rebooting so I thought this was part of the faulty device.
Looks like they plan to release a fix in June security update.
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I just read up on it a little. Apparently it's an issue with all phones running 8.1.0 Oreo witch I did not know. My original essential PH1 was faulty, kept crashing and rebooting so I thought this was part of the faulty device.
Looks like they plan to release a fix in June security update.
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So then are you on Android 9 aka P or not?
No. Just going to wait until they release the fix for 8.1.0
i thought the pixel now has the fix from the May patch... maybe our June update will fix this? How is P ? stable enough for daily driver.. cause i like my chicken dinner!!
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Incredible... P preview makes this phone amazing.. touch response is way better.. pubg is soooo much more playable.. no more touch issues or screen jumping around.. got me some chicken just a few minutes ago
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Incredible... P preview makes this phone amazing.. touch response is way better.. pubg is soooo much more playable.. no more touch issues or screen jumping around.. got me some chicken just a few minutes ago
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The difference is insane right? Night and day. Even if there were any bugs, which I haven't noticed any, I still wouldn't be able to go back I don't think.
Way smoother, all touch bugs fixed, better battery life... What's not to like?
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The difference is insane right? Night and day. Even if there were any bugs, which I haven't noticed any, I still wouldn't be able to go back I don't think.
Way smoother, all touch bugs fixed, better battery life... What's not to like?
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Yep.. only bug I have seen is that wifi isn't on when phone is restarted..
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The difference is insane right? Night and day. Even if there were any bugs, which I haven't noticed any, I still wouldn't be able to go back I don't think.
Way smoother, all touch bugs fixed, better battery life... What's not to like?
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Yep, everything is great for a dev preview. I fixed my PUBG, by just uninstalling, then reinstalling the game. Runs flawlessly