This is an issue that a lot of Hero users had. I was fortunate enough to not experience it with the Hero, but my current time without signal is 52% on my Epic. If I remember correctly, it was a PRL problem, but it might also be the radio. It would be the cause of serious battery issues. I've attempted updating my profile and PRL to no avail. Is anyone else having time without signal issues?
To check, go to settings -> about phone -> battery use -> cell standby.
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I thought it was just a reporting issue
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No. I remember what it was now. It was that the Hero wasn't set to use CDMA towers and was searching for GSM towers for some reason. Something to do with the fact that the Hero was originally a GSM phone, which would make sense here. Someone in the thread that was created just a bit ago suggested it had something to do with the PRL update, which is possible, because I did it and that's when I started getting bad battery life and a high percentage of time without signal.
I've been having a hell of a time with my data connection today, which would explain my poor battery.
I've got a very high time w/out signal as well... I'm surprised this hasnt gotten more attention. Its a huge battery drain.
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I've got 50% time without signal on mine. It seems likely that the searching for GSM towers could be happening on this phone as well because of all the material that crossed over from the international versions. Is there a way to check and/or fix this problem and get the phone to only search for the CDMA towers?
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-Rob
I've been trying to set the network mode to cdma auto using the network app i downloaded from the market. I dont think its fixing the issue though...
Strangely enough this is a similar issue I have seen with the Samsung Intercept. Especially having a hard time with keeping the data connection...
-CC
clockcycle said:
Strangely enough this is a similar issue I have seen with the Samsung Intercept. Especially having a hard time with keeping the data connection...
-CC
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Haven't have this issue and I live in Puerto Rico. We have 5 carriers on this tiny island and Sprint is the only one with CDMA.
I think I figured it out. I set my network to cdma auto and my time without signal dropped to 3%. Battery drain seems improved in the short term...
Did you set yours up to WCDMA only? If I went WCDMA Preferred, I can see it was trying and failing to connect to GSM.
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Did you set yours up to WCDMA only? If I went WCDMA Preferred, I can see it was trying and failing to connect to GSM.
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I set it to CDMA auto
I dont think WCDMA is available in the US.
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Can you please elaborate a bit on how to change network preferences?
Thanks,
-Rob
TheRob44 said:
Can you please elaborate a bit on how to change network preferences?
Thanks,
-Rob
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Go to the android market and search for an app called "Network"
Open up the app, you should see WCDMA Preferred in a drop down box near the bottom of the screen. Select that and change it to CDMA auto.
Exit the app.
Your Time without service should drop really low (mine went to 3%)
I've had the app behave strangely and revert my settings. I'm paranoid so i've been checking it pretty often. I'm not sure if there is a way to make this change permanent. I dont know if it reverts when the phone is rebooted.
The way that the problem was solved on the Hero was by accessing a system menu through a ##CODE## code and telling it to prefer CDMA towers. It was defaulted, for some, to GSM. Because I never had this issue, I don't know a whole lot about it. I know that ##CODE## codes are not available on this phone, though, so we might be out of luck until we can get into some kind of dev menu, I think. The app fix mentioned above sounds janky as hell to me, though, so I'll avoid it for now.
My phone has a hell of a time holding on to a data connection right now, but Juice Defender is really helping that not absolutely kill my battery. Aside from this one concern, my battery is actually lasting a surprisingly long time. I was expecting it to die nearly twice as fast as my Hero, but it is definitely giving it a run for its money. I'm very pleased with the Epic
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I followed your directions. Got into Network, changed the dropdown box to CDMA Auto (PRL) and then hit the home button. Nothing changed, so I went back into the app to check if it stuck and it was back at WCDMA Preferred. Am I missing a step to make the change stick or something?
Thanks,
-Rob
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I followed your directions. Got into Network, changed the dropdown box to CDMA Auto (PRL) and then hit the home button. Nothing changed, so I went back into the app to check if it stuck and it was back at WCDMA Preferred. Am I missing a step to make the change stick or something?
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-Rob
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I just did it multiple times. =)
Mine is not sticking either...ah well..
Hero used to be
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I'm going to try the suggested fixes but we need a permanent solution. This drain is horrible, check out my battery usage from today in this pic. I really like this phone but I'm going to have to return it if this keeps up.
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I'm going to try the suggested fixes but we need a permanent solution. This drain is horrible, check out my battery usage from today in this pic. I really like this phone but I'm going to have to return it if this keeps up.
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Yea, Thats what mine looked like until I fixed it with the Network app.
Yes, I have been playing lots of games/angry birds
I have been trying to use the Network app that people are suggesting but I am getting some weird issues. When I open the Network app it says I am on "WCDMA preferred" but then if I just let it sit for about 15-30 seconds it changes to "Unknown" without my pressing anything. I tried setting it to "CDMA only" and to "WCDMA only" but it doesn't save either setting. If I exit and reopen the program it goes back to "WCDMA preferred" and then changes itself to "Unknown" after a short duration. Anyone else have a problem like this? Any ideas?
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For those of you having battery issues I found a way to DRAMATICALLY improve the battery life.
I tried this and I have seen a huge improvement.
First things first, go into Settings> About Phone> Battery> Battery Use> Cell Standby. Assuming your phone has been on, or off the charger for ~10 minutes, it should show Time Without Signal at around 50%.
Next thing, press HOME, and bring up the dialer. Dial *#*#4636#*#* (Do not press "Call"). After a second, it should bring up the "Testing" menu.
Go into Phone Information, press MENU, and tap "select radio band." You should experience a Force Close, don't panic, this was supposed to happen. Scrolling down shows that the preferred network type is GSM auto (prl).
What this means is that even though you are connected to a CDMA network, your phone is trying to find a GSM network, preventing the radio from sleeping, and causing excessive battery drain.
Remedy this by tapping GSM auto (prl), and changing it to CDMA auto (prl).
Now your done, your TWS should drop dramatically, and you should experience much better battery life!
Note: You need to do this every time you reboot.
I wish there was a way to make an application to toggle this thing on and off so you don't have to do it every time you reboot the phone.
Going to try this for tomorrow and see how my battery life is. Seems silly that with all the customization HTC did to the OS they missed this detail.
seems weird; has anyone confirmed if this works?
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Just checked mine and it was already CDMA(auto).
btw for what it's worth, my EVO has been off the charger for ~2 hours, and the cell standby details just shows "time on: 2h 19m". Mine is also defaulting to 'CDMA auto (PRL)'
Perhaps a recentl prl update fixed this?
-m
Nice find though - the battery history tab (especially the all time tab) is awesome..
For instance, I've been seeing my GPS turn on and stay on while indoors.. according to these stats, the 'movies' app is the one that was using it the most..
-m
I found mine in CDMA already too
Mine was GSM my son's was on cdma, we both did the prl updates and both of us did the sd card update as well.
I guess some phones were on cdma by default some weren't.
Maybe thats why some people are calling other crazy for the battery drain.
thanks...interesting find...mine was on gsm. everytime i reboot?! damn.
Mine was set to CDMA with Cell standby of 48%.
mines was on gsm also..but i rebooted and it stood on cdma..it didnt default back
There is an app in the market called "network" that is basically a shortcut to this menu.
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Nice find though - the battery history tab (especially the all time tab) is awesome..
For instance, I've been seeing my GPS turn on and stay on while indoors.. according to these stats, the 'movies' app is the one that was using it the most..
-m
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You could just use spare parts from the market place it shows you all of that
Mine was on GSM. I'll see if my battery life is any better tomorrow.
Mine was set to GSM. The phone came from Google I/O so maybe that was a bit different? I'm excited to see how this improves it! If it does...good find! If not...still probably a good thing to change!
Thank you so much for this, it seemed to fix my sporadic signal issue!!!!
just changed mine to CDMA thanks
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Mine was set to GSM. The phone came from Google I/O so maybe that was a bit different? I'm excited to see how this improves it! If it does...good find! If not...still probably a good thing to change!
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Mine was set to CDMA
Thanks for the tip...Mine was set to GSM.
Mine was already set to CDMA auto (prl). I saw another option was for CDMA only. I wonder if there would be any difference with that selected?
I found this over at PPC Geeks, Here , and he found it over on Android Forums Here.
I saw something similar on the the Inc. Wiki page, but this is a little different and has helped me ALOT! I just thought I would share with the rest of XDA- If someone can add this to the wiki page, I don't feel as though I am qualified... THANKS!
Try this.
1. Press HOME, and bring up the dialer. Dial *#*#4636#*#* (Do not press "Call").
2. After a second, it should bring up the "Testing" menu.
3. Go into Phone Information, press MENU, and tap "select radio band." You should experience a Force Close, don't panic, this was supposed to happen.
4.Scrolling down shows that the preferred network type is GSM auto (prl).
What this means is that even though you are connected to a CDMA network, your phone is trying to find a GSM network, preventing the radio from sleeping, and causing excessive battery drain.
Remedy this by tapping GSM auto (prl), and changing it to CDMA auto (prl).
Now your done, your TWS should drop dramatically, and you should experience much better battery life!
Credit is given to DroidDave over at Android Forums.
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Mine is set to cdma auto already.
Mine was set to GSM, and so was my friends... I've rooted and installed other kernals on my phone, and his in completely stock. I think it's just a hit or miss as to whether your phone was sent out as CDMA or GSM preferred.
just tried this and mine was set to GSM. i tried it and i'll see how it goes.
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Mine was set to GSM, and so was my friends... I've rooted and installed other kernals on my phone, and his in completely stock. I think it's just a hit or miss as to whether your phone was sent out as CDMA or GSM preferred.
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Did you happen to check if your phone was set to CDMA BEFORE you chose "select radio band" and got a force close? Because I'm pretty sure no matter what it's set to, after that force close it's going to default to GSM on the selection screen. I saw this posted back when I had an Eris and it was pretty much discounted at that time
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Did you happen to check if your phone was set to CDMA BEFORE you chose "select radio band" and got a force close? Because I'm pretty sure no matter what it's set to, after that force close it's going to default to GSM on the selection screen. I saw this posted back when I had an Eris and it was pretty much discounted at that time
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You may be right, I definitely saw a difference in battery life after I did this, but when I log back in it says GSM again... weird... Why do some phones say CDMA and others GSM?
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You may be right, I definitely saw a difference in battery life after I did this, but when I log back in it says GSM again... weird... Why do some phones say CDMA and others GSM?
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If you hit the "select radio band" it's always going to default to GSM after the force close.
My vibrant when holding it like normal will switch to zero bars and then switch to edge when i am in a strong 3g area i think this phone has poor 3g recpeition and a problem with it reciveing 3g signals.When it switches to edge it will display a full 3 bars and then 2 and none less than 2 then when on 3g will go from 4 bars when sitting on a table to none when i am holding then to edge.
Yes, my phone always switches back and forth from 3g to edge. I live in a strong 3g area too. My old g1 never had this problem.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1
get a new phone the vibrant is not for you....
It's an issue that I am experiencing as well. In my case, simply lifting the phone from the table, with a single finger, will cause the data speeds to slow by half or more. Calls will always drop to EDGE, and sometimes, disconnect entirely.
If I had to guess, it's probably an engineering problem. I will try replacing the phone (again), to see if anything is improved.
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get a new phone the vibrant is not for you....
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Nor is customer service for you.
The phone is not perfect and I seem to have the same 3G issues.
Your a D!ck
temperbad said:
get a new phone the vibrant is not for you....
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^^^...Really? WTF would the phone be, "Not for you". Its got nothing to do with the end users ability to understand how to use their phone.
I don't mean to feed that negative comment. But, seriously....
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^^^...Really? WTF would the phone be, "Not for you". Its got nothing to do with the end users ability to understand how to use their phone.
I don't mean to feed that negative comment. But, seriously....
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Negative? That couldn't be any less negative.... if he experiences signal droppage especially where he lives, I say pick a new device cause the vibrant has this issue, so if it effects him or bothers him, the vibrants not for him... and abbreviating what the **** is pretty negative itself.... man funny.. hell you even called me a ****? So hows that good? Can you say that when people are dicks? Your the ruler on who gets to be rude when and where? Or are the only one that can capl people dicks?
I think I get harped on so much from my screen name, but I wasn't being negative. ..
Simply put, if it bugs you the vibrant is not for you....
Cause this is what it does...
Negative. .. lmfaoooo people say way more negative stuff and get away with it.
And no customer service for me? Huh? Didn't even make sense.
Op, the vibrant is not for you man... they all have this misreading....
And what should have been said to the OP IS, please search the forums before posting this... there's many many threads on it....
If this is a such a issue then why does everyone with the problem still have your phone? I mean if my phone dropped to edge just by a finger I'd get a new device.
I just don't get it? If its a issue for some, why do ya guys still have the device. Is the device so nice ya hoping it'll get better? Hoping Samsung has a fix?
They won't, they can display the bars better but that's it, that will do virtually nothing for real world speeds/ reception. It doesn't effect me where I live I can't even get it do drop a bar in some areas if I try, and coming from a n1 it was way worse. .....
Just don't get it, if y'all could answer that would be great, what are you waiting for? Why ya still got the device?
I still have mine honestly because I can give a rip about 3G. Never really used it nor need it. I mean its a phone for phone calls, grabbing some email and now and then updating my market apps. I think when I used my G1 for the close to two years I used 3G twice. Once to uh and ah at it and the second because I wanted to update my maps app faster.
I have wifi everywhere so sometimes I consider 3G overated at least in my house and work, however with that said. Its rather horrid when it comes to a connection. My G1 would easily connect and stay connected. Vibrant connects, disconnects, connects, disconnects. 1 bar, 3 bars, back to edge, no bars.
All over the place. Its like dating somebody with a split personally disorder. I only tested it because others have complained and wanted to either confirm or deny their comments. I can confirm it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738327&page=4&highlight=signal
I just called tmobile and they confirmed getting a new sim card 50.01 does help the 3G signal.
The new SIM will probably help. Mine phone has no 3G issues. Just GPS and compass issues.
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Lock into 3g speeds.
Hey, I posted this in a different forum. This helps lock into 3g speeds. I kind of found this on my own, so I don't know how accurate my instructions are, verify with others before trying, but it worked for me
Tired of edge speeds, want to lock in 3g? Okay this next one, do at your own risk ask usual, use with caution. I kinda figured this one out on my own, through trial and error, so I’m not sure how stable or accurate, or even how safe it is to do this. I did notice though, if you screw up, you can use the factory reset code above and things should go back to factory defaults.
Okay…so again do at your own risk. Also by locking into 3g speeds, if you ever go into a non 3g area, or if your 3g signal is poor in your area, then your phone calls will drop and data will stop, unless you go back and set the phone to its default automatic gsm/cdma settings.
Dial: *#*#197328640#*#*
Click [1] debug screen
Click [8] phone control
Click [7] network control
Click [2] band selection
This is where you make a change, default setting is [1] automatic, which means it chooses automatically between gsm/cdma (Edge vs 3g). So we are going to change this and set it to wcdma band which is 3g.
Click [2] wcdma band
Click [1] wcdma all []
Now it should display “select wcdma all bands [*]"
Now on the bottom of your phone, click the menu key, it’s the one next to the home key, now click back, menu again one more time, back one more time, this is just to confirm it set to number 2 wcdma band.
Now click menu key one last time, click end.. and you are done. Now to double verify that the phone is locked into 3g, dial in: *#*#4636#*#*
Then click phone information Then scroll down to “set preferred network type” It should now have listed “wcdma only.” PS, if you tried to do a shortcut, and just set wcdma this way first without doing the lock above, it would just go back to gsm/cdma auto once you exit the screen.
Your phone should now be locked into 3g.
Few issues...
1. This one has never been addressed... Even with my G2, and with vibration set to always, my phone never vibrates for incoming texts, MMS's or emails. How do I make this work? I have yet to use an Android ROM, even stock out of the box with the phone, where this works.
2. From time to time, T-Mobile is replaced with (No Service) on the lock screen, even though I have service. This also happened with my G2.
Both issues seem to be a bug with Android, probably at the kernel level. Anyone know of a fix?
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Few issues...
1. This one has never been addressed... Even with my G2, and with vibration set to always, my phone never vibrates for incoming texts, MMS's or emails. How do I make this work? I have yet to use an Android ROM, even stock out of the box with the phone, where this works.
2. From time to time, T-Mobile is replaced with (No Service) on the lock screen, even though I have service. This also happened with my G2.
Both issues seem to be a bug with Android, probably at the kernel level. Anyone know of a fix?
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1. easy fix, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981120
2. i had the same problem, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975282
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1. easy fix, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981120
2. i had the same problem, check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975282
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Thanks. Point 1's link seems to be for actual signal drops, which I don't really have, and plus I'd rather use 4G not 2G...
Your No Service issue is probably because you have your phone set to WCDMA Only instead of GSM/WCDMA auto. When the 3G signal is not present there is no GSM/Edge signal for your phone to fall back on.
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Your No Service issue is probably because you have your phone set to WCDMA Only instead of GSM/WCDMA auto. When the 3G signal is not present there is no GSM/Edge signal for your phone to fall back on.
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Hm...makes sense. How do I change that? Went into Wireless Settings, didn't see it.
Lately I have noticed my N1 has been dropping a lot of calls everyday. When this happens, my 3G icon disappears and comes back about 30 seconds later. It's as if it loses connection to the network and comes back.
I can't for the life of me remember if this started happening before I upgraded to 2.3.3 (OTA) or after. I believe it's been going on before that but I can't be sure. I kept blaming my friends that it was their phones dropping calls but after paying closer attention, it appears to be my phone instead.
I am with Rogers, not rooted (stock) running 2.3.3.
Any ideas what might be causing this?
First option would be a factory reset. Then revert to an old build and see if the problem occurs there too. Then upgrade accordingly and see if it's fixed.
Thanks for the reply. Where can I get a 2.2 stock image?
I have tried several ROMs and the same problem occurs too. So I think it's TMobile's network problem.
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I have tried several ROMs and the same problem occurs too. So I think it's TMobile's network problem.
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Just in case, check if your carrier's APN are configured correctly.
Ok so i have done a factory reset late last night. In the next day or two while using my phone, I should probably find out if the reset did the trick.
Just to reiterate, I am with Rogers (in Canada) running 2.3.3. My APN settings are correct as well.
Also, I did already notice something odd. When you go to Mobile Network Settings, and then choose Access Point Names, I see my Rogers APNs (one for the network and one for tethering). I then click on the Rogers network APN where I see all my APN settings. So far so good. Then, I don't touch anything, and the weird part is as soon as I hit the back button taking me back to the APNs screen, my 3G icon disappears for a few seconds, comes back this time white in colour (as well as the signal meter), and a few more seconds later both the 3G icon and singal meter turn green again. Is this normal? Is this perhaps a bug in 2.3.3 that might be contributing to my problem?
I was hoping if anyone out there can test and see if their n1 does the same thing. Thanks.