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Slow Speeds on Evo (3G/4G)

There have been a lot of posts about slow speeds and 4G issues. There's been speculation on PRI, radios and MAC addresses. My goal with this thread is to create a roll-call for everyone with problems and what they're running with. With this data, hopefully we can draw better conclusions to why we're having issues.
PLEASE POST YOUR DETAILS AS FOLLOWS IF YOU'RE REPORTING SLOW SPEEDS:
ROM: HTC-OTA-3.26.651.6-Final-Froyo-Rooted-Odexed-netarchy-signed
BASELAND: 2.15.00.07.28
KERNEL: 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 [email protected] #58
BUILD: 3.26.651.6 CL218634
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60669
3G: 500-700kbps (average)
4G: 0 [SpeedTest.net app would not connect over 4G]

TommyNY said:
There have been a lot of posts about slow speeds and 4G issues. There's been speculation on PRI, radios and MAC addresses. My goal with this thread is to create a roll-call for everyone with problems and what they're running with. With this data, hopefully we can draw better conclusions to why we're having issues.
ROM: HTC-OTA-3.26.651.6-Final-Froyo-Rooted-Odexed-netarchy-signed
BASELAND: 2.15.00.07.28
KERNEL: 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 [email protected] #58
BUILD: 3.26.651.6 CL218634
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60669
3G: 500-700kbps (average)
4G: 0 [SpeedTest.net app would not connect over 4G]
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Welcome to Sprint, the NOT Network
or
Welcome to Sprint, The Now UNnetwork.
sprint and slow speeds/spotty service go hand in hand.
to be truthful, people have reported that an unrooted stock phone does better in the same location than a rooted phone.
but others have reported no difference.
for me its a mixed bag but the difference is minor, minor enough that you can chaulk it up to margin or error.
my speeds in my town are fracking all over the spectrum, and i mean that. it's never the same form hour to hour.
and worst of all at my work location and the surrounding 3/4 to 1 mile radius is in a Data Dead Zone, there is almost no data for some reason, but plenty of signal. and when i go into my building i start to roam, and i get faster speeds roaming than i do if i walk outside and get full bars.
That should be a new acronym, DDZ - Data Dead Zone.
now i have never taken the wife on a drive with me to test her unrooted phone at my work area, but plan to soon.

I know that I got a little bit better 3g speeds at home before rooted, and I don't know if it was because I moved to 2.2, but my 4G speeds have went down alot, and hardly work, though thats how it was before, but for a week or so it was perfect 5mb/s, but now I can't have consistant speeds, it gets down to like 1mb/s now, and doesn't even top 2mb/s.

I did a quick, unscientific, test the other day in my house comparing my 3G to 4G speeds. I sat in the exact same spot and ran the speedtest and my 4G speeds were 1.07mb and my 3G speeds were 1.03mb..........Pretty dissappointing.

I never gone past 140 kbs on download on 3g here in wisconsin with 3g.. it be nice if they come out with 4g support to cover most customers when they comeout with a phone made for 4g.. i tried the whole list of cities and at different times.. top speed of 140 kbs.
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What I'm looking for is for anyone who's having similar issues to report their software details. With this info we can drill down what could be causing these issues.

I just posted my results. So I don't see an issue and it looks like your area.
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novanosis85 said:
I just posted my results. So I don't see an issue and it looks like your area.
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New York City?
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I'm Chicago.
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TommyNY said:
New York City?
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It very well could be degregated performance in NYC. I know awhile back ATT was telling their customers to use wifi whenever possible because of the network congestion:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/05/25/att.free.wifi.nyc.cnet/index.html

I live in the chicago suburbs and around my house 4G and 3G speeds are terrible. However, if I venture about 5 minutes out, towards the elgin area specifically, I have seen speeds of up to 11mbs. Its just a little dissapointing that I appear to be on some crummy fringe area, but if I drive a couple miles out my speeds improve SO much.

martyzidek said:
I never gone past 140 kbs on download on 3g here in wisconsin with 3g.. it be nice if they come out with 4g support to cover most customers when they comeout with a phone made for 4g.. i tried the whole list of cities and at different times.. top speed of 140 kbs.
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Dunno what ur doing dude but I live in WI and hit 2000kbps consistent
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In palatine I get 10.5 mbps consistently and I am rooted.
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Where in wisconsin? Live in sheboygan..
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Meh...I'm in Kentucky and in Louisville and Lexington I get an average of 1.0-1.5Mbps...it rairly ever drops under.
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I have read all of the PRI threads and really don't know if that is a cause for slow speeds or not. The problem I have is that I can do a speed test 5 times in a row and get 5 completely different results. A couple of nights ago I did about 6 speed tests over a 1 hour period. they ranged from 296 kbps down to 2198 kbps down (all on 3g). I just think that Sprints network, at least where I live is pretty unreliable.
For the record my specs are.
ROM-Fresh 3.1.0.1
baseband-2.15.00.07.28
Kernel-2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 [email protected] #58
Software-3.26.651.6
PRI: 1.34_003
PRL: 60669

martyzidek said:
Where in wisconsin? Live in sheboygan..
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Two rivers...30 minutes north
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Anyone else in Tempe/Phoenix have their 3g speeds die? My download speed has slowed to a crawl, just did speedtest a little bit ago and it actually showed -1kbps.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/910198801.png
St. Louis, MO with 1 bar of 4G. Stock everything.
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[Q] 4g tethering

Ok so I have been searching the forums for a few days now and have yet to find the answer to my question. So please don't bash me for not using the search function cuz I did. There is a good chance that my question has already been answered and if it has please direct me to the proper thread. Otherwise my issue is that my epic is rooted as of a few days ago cuz I moved into an apartment and I don't have any Internet yet. Not for a few weeks, but I am using the android wifi tether app. That's working good for me except I am not getting any 4g speed through it. If I'm lucky i will get maybe 1 to 1.5 Mbps but most of the time less than 1 mbps. Does anyone know if the wifi App supports wimax speeds or not. Yes I have 4g coverage in my area. Where I am sitting right now on my phone speed test results are above 3.5 to 4 mbps. But while using my iPad (which I am using to write this) via wifi tether app speed tests are dreadfully low. Same with all other devices I have tried connecting like my xbox or laptop. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Is that the results withe 4g on? 3-4mbs? I get that with 3g untethered 4g untethered is around 8mbs. Have you tried testing it in another area? You might just be in a 4g deadspot. With wifi tether I get 3-4mbs on 4g. I can't really tell you where to go for info but those numbers sound more like 3g to me.
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Yes that is with 4g on. Where my phone is this very second. I have 2 bars of 4g signal. And it's working fine for me. Sitting side by side with 4g activated and wifi tethering on. My phone will get 4mbps and iPad will get 1.5mbps. From the same server on speediest.net. And I run the tests at separate times so they don't conflict for bandwidth.
Update: just ran test again.
iPad - 350ms ping 1.63mbps download .86mbps upload
Phone - 122ms ping 3.96mbps download 1.2mbps upload

This is a known issue..it happens in android-wifi-tether and mobile-ap as well..its definitely using the 4g connection and wifi should be capable of transmitting more..I mean even the lowest is capable of 11mbps..but N should be a lot higher.
As far as I know there is no solution yet...the EVO had the same issue at one point but it was fixed I hear..

Maybe it has something to do with the settings on your phone. I noticed with mine that my speed would just climb and climb then suddenly just drop at around 8. It wouldn't be a slow climb either it's like it's actually being throttled somehow. Try clearing the cache or something, but for some reason those number just don't sound right to me.
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Any idea how or what fixed it?

Just factory reset my phone last night.. And as for the numbers.. I know right.. Something isn't working here..

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Any idea how or what fixed it?
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In their case it had to do with a routing table..but that routing table was for HTC devices so its not related to ours...
Both Mobile-AP and Android-Wifi-Tether experience the same issue as well :/..I do not think its wifi related either..it must be something in between the software and the sending to wifi.
Reason I say this is if you try the device with 4g on 1 bar, then 4g on 2 bars, then 4g on 3 bars on both the device and on phone you will see the speeds vary..example:
1 bar
phone: 4mbps/1mbps
laptop: 0.5mbps/0.03mbs
2bars
phone: 7mpbs/1mbps
laptop: 2mbps/1mbps
If it was the wifi speed, then the speed would not have dropped so much.. something in between is effecting it

Oh.. That makes sense. It's just too bad though. Thanks for helping me understand.

Probably the way the wifi and 4g radios are set up and how they interact with each other, maybe 4g has more priority than wifi. I'm just guessing though. I don't know much
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Just FYI I too was getting slow speeds but with Sprints hotspot that I was paying $30 a month for. Needless to say I cancel the feature and will seek rooting my phone and add the free tethering, casue at those speeds it isnt worth it.

Sounds like the problem you are having might be caused by something that is the result of 4G and Wifi frequencies being the similar. If you are using both frequencies in a close proximity such as a room or house the frequencies have a high likeliness of causing interferences by reflecting off each other. A way to test this would be to compare wirless tethered speeds to wired ones on the same device.... Hope this helps.

Gagstr said:
Sounds like the problem you are having might be caused by something that is the result of 4G and Wifi frequencies being the similar. If you are using both frequencies in a close proximity such as a room or house the frequencies have a high likeliness of causing interferences by reflecting off each other. A way to test this would be to compare wirless tethered speeds to wired ones on the same device.... Hope this helps.
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Thing is its getting full speed on the device...at the time its using wimax..so wimax is not having the issue..not to mention..there is a relation to the wimax bars and the wimax speed which is strange...

3g service issues in my area!

Ok so for some reason lately my 3g service seems to be really really slow or not working at all. Gives error when going to the market or using the web.says no service accessible.please try again. What the hell is going on? I live in the renton/kent Washington area. And no I have not reached 5gb cap yet.my month just started. Some times it works and gives me up to 4mb to 6mb speeds if I go to a friends house. But wont work 90% of the time in my area. Use to work great. But now it sucks balls! Thanks for any ideas!
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If you have had good 3g up until now, call TMo. If it is not a currently known service issue, have them open a service ticket. They did it for me (although edge was working) and I was back in business in about 4 days, and they even called me back to make sure everything was cool.

Yea already called them.told me I should upgrade to the Myslide 4g. Lol I just got the Vibrant. Also told me it should be working fine.made a trouble ticket but that was last week.still having major issues with 3g service. Stupid thing is they told me if I added the $15 extra tethering plain.my 3g would be faster.what a load of crap! Lol
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you're not alone, my 3g is gone too though i have a good reception here in my place in the past.

Just ran the Speedtest.net App and only got 0.15kb download speed but got 1.75mg upload speed. That doesn't seem right to me!
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what rom are you running?

i think the vibrant has weak reception in general, mine is always switching between 3g and edge everywhere where my tp2 could hold a 3g connection and sometimes my vibrant will search for a signal where my tp2 would have at least edge.
also the wifi bars will go to 1 or 0 on the vibrant when i am one room over from my router but my tp2 and bb bold will have full bars.
maybe this is caused by the battery saving algorithm?

happened to me the other day in myrtle beach for like 15 minutes i had like crappy 100 kbps download and like 2 mbits upload.
i think some ****er is just hogging all the bandwidth from the tower you are on.
sorry if we cant cuss im new.

Running just the offical ROM with JI6 update. Also Rooted. Starting to get pissed off here.plus GPS is non working taking like 10mins to even find me.and its jumping all over the place on google maps! WTF!! ;(
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I came from the G1 and I noticed the Vibrant doesn't get nearly as good of reception. It was a pretty rare thing to ever be on anything but 3G with the G1 but the Vibrant spends quite a bit of time on Edge. Same locations...
For what it is worth the JK2 modem has given me the best overall performance/battery life. Could be worth a try putting a JK2 ROM on there if you haven't already. But yeah the Vibrant overall doesn't get as good of signal as some other phones.

I've been having reception issues since T-mobile announced Louisvile was live with 4G. getting similar errors saying no service accessible.please try again. or it will just say network error.

Ok so I just installed the lag fix from the market and I got to say wow. Phone is lighting fast and gps seems to be better and 3g. Almost like a new device! Crazy
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you sure the lagfix fixed it? can you run a speedtest?

Yeah all same here. 3g issues for 3 days now, speed test was 67 kbs. Usually 4000 + Idk what's happening but its good to know I'm not alone. This is pissing me off.
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Yea ran new speedtest and got like 1.12mg but probably would be faster if the weather wasn't so crappy outside 60 mph winds!
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Ok just ran the speedtest app again and got 1.98mg download and 2.65mg upload speeds.so seems faster with the lag fix. And gps seems to work better too.
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Also got Quadrant Standard score of 2096 instead of the normal 890! Wow what a difference!
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It won't work that well around the area of Kent, East Hill area.
I am experiencing the same matter as you, and live in about the same area.
From my observation, general east hill area has bad 3G,data packet connection.

I've been having the same problems as u guys. I live in philly, and 3g had always been pretty good. I called tmo and got to upper level tech support, and they said out might be a network merging issue (whatever the hell that is). So, I starting playing around with the settings and I found a short term fix for me. Do this only if u know u have 3g signal, go to wireless and network, then network mode and click wcdma. if u go into edge area u will lose signal completely.

ultraman69 said:
i think the vibrant has weak reception in general, mine is always switching between 3g and edge everywhere where my tp2 could hold a 3g connection and sometimes my vibrant will search for a signal where my tp2 would have at least edge.
also the wifi bars will go to 1 or 0 on the vibrant when i am one room over from my router but my tp2 and bb bold will have full bars.
maybe this is caused by the battery saving algorithm?
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Dude I think you should replace your phone
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4G is getting slower...any ideas what it could be?

My EVO used to record 4G speeds anywhere from 8Mbps to 13Mbps here in Brooklyn, NY.
Noticed it didn't seem as fast the past few weeks and Speedtest shows im only getting around 2.5-3Mbps.
I've tried a bunch of stuff and nothing has seemed to help.
Updated to lastest radios - Check
Update profile - Check
Check for RSA Keys - Check (have them)
My phone shows as having full 4G reception but the speed is just not there
My 3g speeds are also realllly reallly slow (around 0.5-0.9Mbps)
Please help me figure out whats up

Maybe more users are connecting to the 4g now.
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jkinnison90 said:
Maybe more users are connecting to the 4g now. Or some tower problems. There has been a lot of complains on 3g speeds lately.
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I use clearwire on my evo for 4g.

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I use clearwire on my evo for 4g.
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And how are you doing that?
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Iz stealing your 4G's..
Seriously there seems to have been a problem with the network today, was having an issue connecting to 4G in NJ, but once I got to midtown I was getting a connection, and decent data rates.

I was in Tampa last week and was getting about 3.5 down. That was the first time I got to use 4G so I don't know what speeds there have been like.
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Might want to note this.
http://www4.sprint.com/servlet/whit...=item_file&keyname=item_id&keyvalue='25625ay'
From http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910550

its from the servers from so many users but Sprint have be doing new changes for the Wimax that could be y
Just note run a speedtest in the morning then run one afternoon
[QOTE=chrispino;10765787]My EVO used to record 4G speeds anywhere from 8Mbps to 13Mbps here in Brooklyn, NY.
Noticed it didn't seem as fast the past few weeks and Speedtest shows im only getting around 2.5-3Mbps.
I've tried a bunch of stuff and nothing has seemed to help.
Updated to lastest radios - Check
Update profile - Check
Check for RSA Keys - Check (have them)
My phone shows as having full 4G reception but the speed is just not there
My 3g speeds are also realllly reallly slow (around 0.5-0.9Mbps)
Please help me figure out whats up[/QUOTE]
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its because they are systematically replacing all the towers and infrastructure with the new upgraded equipment so that they can announce an industry first 1gb/s speed on feb7!!!

4G on Sprint anyway is so damn overated.
Had galaxy s for a while on TMobile.... and it was faster consistantly on 3G than my Evo on 4G. Don't even try then and match Evdoh to any other 3G.
Sorry... doesn't help your issue, I know.

WiMax Upload Cap Raised?

Has anyone verified this yet? I saw that it was supposed to be raised to 1.5Mbps today, and having been in an office building all day, I can't check it!

Based on a few speedtests I just ran... I'd say no (Sorry the color is a little off for some reason).

Not yet. Woot another 50kb lol
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Not that I expect any monumental performance changes, but I REALLY want to see an upload speed on my speedtest over 1Mbps.
ps - What ROM do you use ph?

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Im still getting around a meg
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Not here yet. There have been intermittent 4G outages here recently and I wondered if this change had something to do with it.

Not yet here either. I just tested to find out. 7.5Mbps down and it was at 1.2Mbps up for a few seconds, so I got excited, then leveled off around 0.98Mbps after that and finished reporting 1.0 on the head.

Just went to lunch and ran three tests around the Downtown Denver area.
Speeds spiked to a futuristic 1.02 but averaged no better than .97

Xiutehcuhtli said:
Not that I expect any monumental performance changes, but I REALLY want to see an upload speed on my speedtest over 1Mbps.
ps - What ROM do you use ph?
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Currently on Midnight 5.2 w/ Honeycomb Fusion theme. Didn't want to flash again until official GB drops...

That's still slow by comparison to other carriers...COME ON SPRINT!!! =/

I've barely got 3G right now and the signal has dropped way down. Either the tower here has chronic issues or they're up to something...I hope.

It's quite depressing. I have a friend with the Thunderbolt and my DL speeds regularly best his in areas with a strong signal here in Denver (of course he gets much better coverage) but his upload speeds average a minimum 3x faster. He went with me at lunch and where I was DLing at 6.5-7 he was getting 3-3.5, but upstream he gets the same speeds as downstream!

Sprint's going to eventually start losing customers if they don't do something about this poor data performance. Oh, how the mighty have fallen =/ Formerly the fastest network.

Hey DroidApprentice, I think you are on to something here. My upload speeds never topped 1000 before. Thanks for the screenshot. It inspired me to do some testing this morning and something definately changed...
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I sit under a WiMax tower.

I just got 1.49 and our tower is 2 streets over. 7 mbs dl on that same test.

So, it happened a week later than it was supposed to. I only hope it spells the end of the flaky behavior that almost made me believe I was having software or hardware issues on my phone.
And unfortunately, no improvement to ping, although I didn't expect any...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1345636745.png This is My Home internet, 2nd test on home internet right after the 1st one MAJOR DIFFERENCEhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/1345660172.png
1st attachment my phone using WiFi
2nd Attachment 4G
3rd Attachment 3G
Now mind you guys my home internet is Clear Wireless, which sprint pays clear to use their 4G. Sprints 4G is Clear's 4G basically.
My 4G gets better speeds then WiFi lol should be other way around and i only had 1 bar of 4G during that test. And my 3G and 4G were in the same spot. 3G should have more bars i only had 1 bar for 3G. because 3G came out first it should cover most where 4G doesn't.
So can someone explain to me how on same internet 4G and Home 4G, i get almost 8Mbs @ Home but in same spot my phone gets half pretty much, but my upload is more on my phone than it is on my Home internet when its all the same lol
Notice how crappy my 3G is as well in that exact same spot the bars differ each day from 1 to 6 and its never consistent its all over the place