Hello all,
I have searched (and searched) and came across a lot of info on this site about changing/flashing ROMs, etc etc but was hoping for some simple advice and response to my particular question. I am going to soon have the HTC HD T8285 Australia Telstra model for use in the U.S. on At&T's network. The phone comes stock with WM 6.1, if I chose to change that to perhaps an Energy ROM or Dutty's or whatever (that simulates WM 6.5), what are the simple and basic steps one would need to follow to do that for this particular device? I know there are "how to's" on here, but to be honest they are kinda confusing, overlap or have some if/then parameters that I don't understand as a somewhat new person to flashing a ROM. Can anyone give any specific steps and advice that is easy to follow to accomplish a flash on this phone? GREATLY appreciate the help!!!
i went the same route months ago buying the touch hd from austrailia. you should have some knowledge about flashing else what I'm about to say will sound like greek:
i suggest using uspl to do your flashing. what you will need is uspl or hspl (depending on preference), task 29, radio of your choice since it will come with an old radio, rlphone (i suggest rlphone 1.15 if you choose radio 1.17) of your choice, rom of your choice. below will be the steps i use and i use uspl:
- put phone in bootloader mode (turn phone off and hold vol down button and hit the power button), connect to pc, and run uspl. you will see "uspl 1.15" appear on your screen
- task 29 with the radio nbh in the same folder. once finished your phone will restart but wont go past the "smart mobility" screen. normal; just take teh battery out
- run uspl again. you will see uspl 1.15 again
- download the rom of your choice
done. i can simplify it a lil more, i have detailed instructions home but not here. this is just off the top of my head. whole process should take about 20 mins.
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Let's say I'm new to doing this, first timer, and I have an HTC HD T8285 that appears to be locked to Telstra. What spelled out steps do I need to take to flash to a new rom? I know how to use a computer, etc..I do it for a living, just not too keen on this stuff and probably need to be spoon fed.
It can't be spelt out any simpler than the Dummies Guide which is posted as a sticky on this forum. If it is difficult for you to scroll upward, here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
To be honest, if you can't follow these very clear and simple step-by-step instructions, you'd be better off not doing it.
I used these to flash my HD which, to be fair, is a more complicated process than my previous Orbit. The first couple of times failed because I missed a step through thinking I knew better than the author.
So don't guess, don't skip, just print the instructions, read them through first, assemble the downloads you need then follow the instructions precisely, ticking them off as you go.
This has been a step-by-step guide to following the step-by-step guide already written.
Oh, and you should ask questions about following the guide in that thread, not this one.
Memory/Storage Space?
After flashing a rom (Energy) on this device, just curious if anyone else with the same model (T8285 or T8282) noticed a significant drop in the memory specs as follows??:
"Storage Total" stock spec is 512MB...I show 260MB....where's the missing 252MB??
"Program Total" stock spec is 288MB...I show 190MB....where's the missing 98MB??
closet410 said:
i went the same route months ago buying the touch hd from austrailia. you should have some knowledge about flashing else what I'm about to say will sound like greek:
i suggest using uspl to do your flashing. what you will need is uspl or hspl (depending on preference), task 29, radio of your choice since it will come with an old radio, rlphone (i suggest rlphone 1.15 if you choose radio 1.17) of your choice, rom of your choice. below will be the steps i use and i use uspl:
- put phone in bootloader mode (turn phone off and hold vol down button and hit the power button), connect to pc, and run uspl. you will see "uspl 1.15" appear on your screen
- task 29 with the radio nbh in the same folder. once finished your phone will restart but wont go past the "smart mobility" screen. normal; just take teh battery out
- run uspl again. you will see uspl 1.15 again
- download the rom of your choice
done. i can simplify it a lil more, i have detailed instructions home but not here. this is just off the top of my head. whole process should take about 20 mins.
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thank you for good guide
unfortunately, during the task29 running screen show a error massage (invalid vendor). how i can solve the problem?
great thanks
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Ok guys,
As I've already posted in a previous thread (the huge "Telstra 850 version working in USA on 3G" thread), I recently bought this Aussie T8285 HD because it had U.S. 3G capabilities.
As a result, I've been wanting to HSPL and flash my new HD because:
1.) though the phone works fine in making calls with my AT&T service/sim card and updating my google e-mails, the 3G internet is not working right now (internet only works when I use wifi). **special thanks to felixjai and bill48105 in the previous thread for nicely helping me troubleshoot my problem, suggesting that I need to HSPL and flash it for the 3G to start working**
but more importantly...
2.) I want to get rid of the Telstra crap in the phone and be able to install Dutty's and other cool stuff on this site
So I wanted to make sure before doing any major tweaking to fully understand and comprehend the whole process (as you can obviously tell, I am a newb). But to be completely honest, all the jargon is quite over my head and I realize that it'll simply take actual experience to fully comprehend all of this.
So I guess my question is, from what I was able to glean from the wiki-pages (and I've read it several times over), is that all I need to do is, with what I want to do in the above two points:
FIRSTLY, Hard_SPL (not SSPL or USPL, but HSPL) my HD by following exactly step-by-step this page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash3
and THEN SECONDLY, DL and install Dutty ROM from this page?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_cookedroms
- Do I need to have the Dutty .cab ready and downloaded already on my PC and ready to install (and where do I drop this ROM into? into a folder?) to my HD or can I DL and install it at a later time?
- Does this whole process have nothing to do with the radio? I can leave the radio alone?
- How do I know if my version of the HD is ok to HSPL? On the wiki page, it says that it needs to be BLAC100 but I have BLAC250...is this still ok to HSPL? Do I need to update/download/change anything on my HD before starting this process?
I apologize for the long-winded email and for what probably is totally childs-play for you pros out there, but please bear with me...it is all a bit overwhelming and I just want to make sure as I don't want to permanently screw up my $1000 device. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THE HELP!
markgencorelli said:
Ok guys,
As I've already posted in a previous thread (the huge "Telstra 850 version working in USA on 3G" thread), I recently bought this Aussie T8285 HD because it had U.S. 3G capabilities.
As a result, I've been wanting to HSPL and flash my new HD because:
1.) though the phone works fine in making calls with my AT&T service/sim card and updating my google e-mails, the 3G internet is not working right now (internet only works when I use wifi). **special thanks to felixjai and bill48105 in the previous thread for nicely helping me troubleshoot my problem, suggesting that I need to HSPL and flash it for the 3G to start working**
but more importantly...
2.) I want to get rid of the Telstra crap in the phone and be able to install Dutty's and other cool stuff on this site
So I wanted to make sure before doing any major tweaking to fully understand and comprehend the whole process (as you can obviously tell, I am a newb). But to be completely honest, all the jargon is quite over my head and I realize that it'll simply take actual experience to fully comprehend all of this.
So I guess my question is, from what I was able to glean from the wiki-pages (and I've read it several times over), is that all I need to do is, with what I want to do in the above two points:
FIRSTLY, Hard_SPL (not SSPL or USPL, but HSPL) my HD by following exactly step-by-step this page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash3
and THEN SECONDLY, DL and install Dutty ROM from this page?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_cookedroms
- Do I need to have the Dutty .cab ready and downloaded already on my PC and ready to install (and where do I drop this ROM into? into a folder?) to my HD or can I DL and install it at a later time?
- Does this whole process have nothing to do with the radio? I can leave the radio alone?
- How do I know if my version of the HD is ok to HSPL? On the wiki page, it says that it needs to be BLAC100 but I have BLAC250...is this still ok to HSPL? Do I need to update/download/change anything on my HD before starting this process?
I apologize for the long-winded email and for what probably is totally childs-play for you pros out there, but please bear with me...it is all a bit overwhelming and I just want to make sure as I don't want to permanently screw up my $1000 device. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THE HELP!
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Here's a quick guide for you
A warning before you flash any rom!
You must flash HardSPL first to be able to flash any rom!
.... * More info and instruction about HardSPL!
An alternative is USPL, it doesn't change your original SPL!
.... * More info and instruction about USPL!
Tips about flashing a rom
.... * Use fully charged device
.... * Switch off your device by holding the Power button untill a menu pops up
.... * Go to bootloader by holding Volume down + Power button at the same time
.... * Connect your device to your PC
.... * Start BlackStoneCustomRUU.exe and follow the onscreen instruction's
An alternative is to flash your device from storage card
.... * Rename RUU_Signed.nbh to BLACIMG.NBH and copy it to your Storage Card
.... * Follow the above steps to go in bootloader
.... * A messages will popup, push power button to start flashing or Volume down to cancel
.... * After it's done a new message popsup, softreset your device
I took this from Laurentius, so I hope he doesn't mind. L26 ultimate series for Touch HD
Fallen Spartan said:
Here's a quick guide for you
A warning before you flash any rom!
You must flash HardSPL first to be able to flash any rom!
.... * More info and instruction about HardSPL!
An alternative is USPL, it doesn't change your original SPL!
.... * More info and instruction about USPL!
Tips about flashing a rom
.... * Use fully charged device
.... * Switch off your device by holding the Power button untill a menu pops up
.... * Go to bootloader by holding Volume down + Power button at the same time
.... * Connect your device to your PC
.... * Start BlackStoneCustomRUU.exe and follow the onscreen instruction's
An alternative is to flash your device from storage card
.... * Rename RUU_Signed.nbh to BLACIMG.NBH and copy it to your Storage Card
.... * Follow the above steps to go in bootloader
.... * A messages will popup, push power button to start flashing or Volume down to cancel
.... * After it's done a new message popsup, softreset your device
I took this from Laurentius, so I hope he doesn't mind. L26 ultimate series for Touch HD
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THANKS for the info !
So how do I know if my HD is OK to HSPL?
My HD is not BLAC100 and the wiki page states that if "ModelID is different, contact us for testing"...
Do I need to tweak any of my settings on my phone before starting the HSPL process or is it just good to go as is?
Something that I have been wondering about... is one method of flashing 'safer' than another? i.e. is it just a user preference or is there a reason one should attempt one method before the other?
skribzy said:
Something that I have been wondering about... is one method of flashing 'safer' than another? i.e. is it just a user preference or is there a reason one should attempt one method before the other?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong (and I could be since I'm a newb), but I believe HSPL is better because then it makes it more difficult in bricking your phone.
I wasnt thinking so much about HSPL vs USPL but rather flashing from SD card vs PC!
skribzy said:
I wasnt thinking so much about HSPL vs USPL but rather flashing from SD card vs PC!
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Only difference is that you don't need to be connected to your pc to flash the ROM. Both are just as safe. Its a users preference.
thanks! that clears that one up!
PLEASE READ THE *FAQ* BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS OR LOOK AT *THIS* THREAD THANKS TO RZASHARP
ALSO DEFINITELY CHECK OUT THE COMPLETE VIDEO GUIDE TO EVERYTHING *HERE* THANKS TO [★]
This Guide is designed ONLY for HD2 with 512 Mbytes ROM. If you are unsure then goto Settings, System, Device Information, Hardware Information and look at the Flash Size.
If you have a LEO with 1024MB ROM then please use *THIS* guide.
Before starting, backup anything you might want to keep after the new Rom has been flashed as all contacts, emails, texts, notes, Internet BookMarks WILL be lost!!
PimBackup is good and free (copy any mms attachments to your storage card or computer seperately)
*ONCE YOU HAVE FLASHED A HARDSPL ITS PERMANENT. YOU DONT NEED TO DO IT AGAIN WHEN FLASHING NEW ROMS OR RADIOS*
*DO NOT start another process while the flashing process is taking place*
*DO NOT click off of the status bar... Let it stay in the foreground*
*DO NOT let the Screensaver (on your pc) activate*
Any of these can lead to a bad flash and possibly brick your phone
*FLASH HARDSPL BEFORE FLASHING ANY CUSTOM ROMS OR RADIOS*
1. YOUR DEVICE MUST HAVE AT LEAST 50% BATTERY POWER FIRST BEFORE ATTEMPTING EACH STAGE
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2. FLASH HARDSPL (REQUIRED!! DO THIS BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE)
The Original HardSPL Thread is *HERE*
NOTE: If you have Vista or Windows 7, update WMDC to v6.1 *HERE* first
NOTE: Turn OFF any AntiVirus Program first as it WILL interefere with the flash (there is NO harmful code in the program)
Installing HardSPL4 via ActiveSync with USB Lead (thanks to Bepe)
Note: HardSPL CANNOT be installed via microSD Card.
IMPORTANT: To install/uninstall this HSPL3 there must be any SPL version from this list on your device:
SPL 1.42.0000, SPL 1.62.0000, SPL 1.66.0000, SPL 2.07.0000, SPL 2.08.0000, SPL 2.10.0000, SPL 3.03.000
To Uninstall you can flash a Stock ROM via SD card or use HSPL3 application (You need select 2.08.0000 or 3.03.0000 in the choose screen)
1. Download HardSPL4 package from *HERE* and extract to an empty folder
2. Synch Phone with PC in Windows Mobile!!! It has to be connected to activesync or WMDC via USB cable
3. Run HSPL4.exe from your pc and read all the text carefully
4. When finished reading click next in the HardSPL program
5. The program will now check the usb connection and enter bootloader screen (tri colour)
*You can select between 2.08.HSPL 2.08.0000 HSPL3.03.0000 or 3.03.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
Android / WP7 / MAGLDR don't support HSPL3.03/OSPL3.03.
You need HSPL2.08 to run Android / WP7 / MAGLDR
6. Select 2.08.HSPL OR 3.03HSPL for HardSPL and click NEXT.
7. Your choice will be flashed to your phone.
8. When its finished the phone will reboot.
9. Click ok to terminate program.
10. Congrats, you just flashed HardSPL.
NOTE: You can also install HARDSPL by entering Bootloader mode manually, then running the HSPL4.exe program once you see 'USB' at the bottom of the tri-colour screen.
*Go into BootLoader Mode (turn off phone, then press and hold the VOLUME DOWN then Press and hold the POWER button. After about 3 seconds the tri-coloured screen should appear). Verify the screen shows the SPL or HardSPL you installed*
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To Remove HardSPL from your Device or Flash back a Stock Rom and Stock SPL for Warranty Purposes
You can remove the HSPL by flashing an original SPL from microSD card OR by running the HSPL4 application (You need select 2.08.0000 or 3.03.0000 in the choose screen).
* You can also use the microSD Card method to flash back your Stock Rom and Stock SPL that you originally had on your phone*
- Download a shipped Rom from *HERE*
- Rename the extension to .zip
- open it with winzip and extract the RUU_signed.nbh file to a folder
- Rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and copy it to the root of a microSD card thats been formatted to FAT32
- Insert your storage card into your phone
- Enter Bootloader and follow onscreen instructions to flash
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3. DOWNLOAD AND FLASH YOUR PREFERED ROM
NOTE: Check the Roms Thread for any specific Flashing instructions. If there arent any then you can use the following guide.
Flashing Via ActiveSync
1. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your computer
2. REMOVE SIM and microSD CARDS!! (this is a precautionary measure and is not compulsory)
3. Turn phone back on and wait until it syncs with your PC
4a. If your Rom is a .exe (customRUU.exe is already included in the Rom file) then run the file
4b. If your Rom is a .nbh file then run the CustomRUU.exe from the Roms Folder (if one isnt included then download it *HERE*)
5. Follow onscreen instructions to set up your New Rom
6. Once phone has gone through the customisation procedure then replace Sim and microSD Cards
7. Perform a Hard Reset to clear any leftover data from your previous Rom (see intructions at bottom).
8. Set up phone as required and job done.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
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4. FLASH PREFERED RADIO (OPTIONAL)
For more information about compatible Radios go *HERE*
Flashing Via ActiveSync
1. Download your required Radio and rename the extracted file to RUU_Signed.nbh
2. Sync your phone with the PC
3. Run CustomRUU.exe from the Radio's Folder and follow the instructions (if one isnt included then download it *HERE*)
Flashing via MicroSD Card
Use same method as Flashing a Rom via MicroSD Card
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5. JOB DONE. Well Done YOU DID IT!!
Useful Information
How to get into your Bootloader
1. Turn your phone off
2. Press and hold the VOLUME DOWN then Press and hold the POWER button. After about 3 seconds the tri-coloured screen should appear.
3. To exit Bootloader you need to remove your back cover and pull the battery out for a few seconds, then replace it and press the power button to reboot your phone.
How to perform a HardReset
Hard Resetting deletes ALL personal data and settings and restores your phone to factory default conditions as if you turned on the phone for the first time after purchasing.
1. With the device turned off, press and hold the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons, then briefly press the POWER button.
2. Continue pressing the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons until you see this message on the screen:
"This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to the manufacturer default settings. Press VolUp to restore manufacturer defaults, or press other keys to cancel."
3. Release the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons.
4. Press the VOLUME UP button to perform the hard reset, or press any other button to cancel the reset.
You can also use Clear Storage to reset your device back to factory default settings.
1. On the Home screen, slide to the Settings tab and then tap Menu > All Settings.
2. On the System tab, tap Clear Storage.
3. Enter “1234” and then tap Yes.
Make sure you back up all your data such as Contacts, Appointments, messages etc or they will be gone forever.
*DISCLAIMER*
I take no responsibility for any fault or damage caused by any procedures within this guide. No warranties of any kind are given.
FAQ FOR FLASHING HTC HD2 (LEO)
Q. I can't get it working I need help.
A. If you need help you do need to provide as much detailed information as possible or we cant do anything.
What process are you trying to do? Installing HardSPL? Flashing Radio? Flashing Rom?
List each step you completed and where you got the error with the exact error code you was given if you got one.
Also exactly what operating system do you have on your pc?
If you do not provide this and just leave a message saying "I cant get it working, what do I do?" then I will know you havent looked at the FAQ before posting and you will be referred here.
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Q. What is a Radio?
A: The Radio is the Firmware that works between the Operating System and the Cellular Hardware. It handles the Sound, Camera, GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, Phone Calls, etc. The Radio must be compatable with the ROM's Operating System or you may experience problems with your sound and camera.
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Q: What is the difference between SPL, SSPL and HardSPL?
A: SPL (secondary program loader) is part of the firmware that allows your phone to flash Roms, Radios, Splash Screens. Carrier locked so you can only use it to flash Roms from your own carrier.
SSPL (soft secondary program loader) is a temporary way to allow your phone to flash custom roms only (not radios). This doesnt give your phone the protection that HardSPL gives you.
HardSPL (as the name sugests) is installed permanently and allows you to flash anything to your phone. Its patched to protect you against bricking in the event of a bad flash and will let you get back into the bootloader to restore your system when a stock SPL wont. Always the best thing to have.
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Q: What is the difference between ROM and RADIO?
A: The Rom is the operating system and included patches, tweaks and programs. The Radio is a seperate part of the firmware on the phone that handles all communation related matters such as signal, gps, bluetooth, camera, wifi and sound. Newer Radios to include improvements or fixes in older version, or even just to compliment an existing Rom or network so a newer Radio isnt neccessarily better. Radios also need to be matched to the correct Rom so you cant just put any Radio and Rom together.
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Q: How do Stock ROMS differ from Cooked ROMS?
A: Stock Roms usually have extra 'bloatware' added which take up extra space on the phone. Custom Roms are stripped down to provide more space and most are tweaked to provide a faster more stable Operating System. Every chef is different so you have to look around the forums to see which Rom is best for your needs.
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Q: What happens if I flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card?
A: Flashing a stock rom via microsd card will overwrite your rom, radio, splashscreen and SPL with the ones included on the stock rom. With previous devices I believe the HardSPL couldnt be overwritten this way but as bepe developed this version it must have been done differently. Stock Roms can safely be flashed via activesync and this method will flash the Rom, Radio and SPlashscreen but will not overwrite the HardSPL with a Stock SPL.
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Q: Can I download official roms from the HTC Website?
A: Use the following serial number on the respective HTC site (thanks to mooooooa):
World Wide English (WWE) - Serial: HT9AZNW00968
South East Asia (Asian WWE) - Serial:HT01XNW03437
Denmark: (DAN) - Serial: HT9B6NW00167
Norway: (NOR) - Serial: HT9C7NW01234
France: (FRA) - Serial: HT9BLNW00122
Spain: (SPA) - Serial: HT9BDNW00592
Italy: (ITA) - Serial: HT9BCNW00722
Greek: (ELL) - Serial: HT9BMNW00059
Germany: (GER) - Serial: HT9B9NW00374
Netherlands: (NLD) - Serial: HT9AVNW01232
Russian: (RUS) - Serial: HT9BCNW00012
Turkey: (TUR) - Serial: HT9CMNW05766
East Europe: (WWE_EastEurope) - Serial: HT9B3NW02204
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Hi Guys. I posted the text below a few days ago in the general section/questions thread but it seams the thread is not so popular .
I just got my hands on the pre-production LEO device (demo device I guess) and I have a couple of questions (this is my first WiMo phone, I have experience with Android and Symbian devices).
Pre-production devices seem to be "unlocked". Besides being SIM unlocked it seems to be SuperCID-ed as well. The latter obviously allows me to flash stock ROMs regardless of the county signature, right?
Now how about cooked ROMs? I persume I would need HardSPL as any other production device? Or does SuperCID have anything to do with the HardSPL?
or
Having the SuperCID-ed device I don't need the GoldCard?
I have tried searching the forum but I believe that my lack of WiMo terminology is slowing me down.
Thanks for any input in advance.
Hi I was hoping you could answer a few of my queries on flashing ect
1. SSPL seems like a better path to go down as it stops any warranty voiding, which means I can still get my phone repaired in the future - good . However how come most people always wait for HSPL? Im guessing its because HSPL only has to be ran once or something, so everytime you want a new rom from then on, theres no need to flash so no risk of bricking? Whats the pro's and con's of using HSPL or SSPL ? ( I personally was more keen on SSPL as my warranty isnt affected )
2. How come some rom chefs say that their roms cant be used with SSPL and you have to wait for HSPL ???
3. What are the possible errors/outcomes when something goes wrong when flashing with SSPL? how does a phone become bricked and are there any ways to recover it?
4. Whats with goldcard? is that only when someone needs to flash official roms if there particular leo is branded to a particular GSM? Mine is an unbranded, unlocked model so will I never have to worry about goldcard?
5. If my device does become bricked and there are no ways to unbrick it, what can I do to get a repair ect? someone suggested bunging it in a microwave for 10 seconds and then sending it off under my warraty claiming that I turned the phone off one day, and the next it wouldnt turn on (seems quite a clever idea, but a little extreme)
6. Can someone explain to me all about the radio? it seems to be a key part in flashing. What is it exactly, Im guessing its more complex than the fm radio lol, but I dont understand what it does to the phone, and I see only certain radio versions and compatible with certain rom versions. Also I see that flashing wih SSPL means you can only change OS's and splash screens, so will that create certain problems if you want change the radio version?
7. Im planning on flashing to THIS rom, for speed and performance while keeping some eye candy (Also I want to try windows mobile 6.5.3) is this a good choice?
Thanks all my questions for now, I would be SO appreciative if you guys could help me out as flashing is quite a scary concept for a £500 device
I hope someone will help me
GregorVucajnk said:
Hi Guys. I posted the text below a few days ago in the general section/questions thread but it seams the thread is not so popular .
I just got my hands on the pre-production LEO device (demo device I guess) and I have a couple of questions (this is my first WiMo phone, I have experience with Android and Symbian devices).
Pre-production devices seem to be "unlocked". Besides being SIM unlocked it seems to be SuperCID-ed as well. The latter obviously allows me to flash stock ROMs regardless of the county signature, right?
Now how about cooked ROMs? I persume I would need HardSPL as any other production device? Or does SuperCID have anything to do with the HardSPL?
or
Having the SuperCID-ed device I don't need the GoldCard?
I have tried searching the forum but I believe that my lack of WiMo terminology is slowing me down.
Thanks for any input in advance.
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If your phone has been CID Unlocked (SuperCID) then you will be able to flash Stock Roms from other carriers but I think you will still need to use SSPL to flash Cooked Roms.
Hope that helps.
[★] said:
Hi I was hoping you could answer a few of my queries on flashing ect
1. SSPL seems like a better path to go down as it stops any warranty voiding, which means I can still get my phone repaired in the future - good . However how come most people always wait for HSPL? Im guessing its because HSPL only has to be ran once or something, so everytime you want a new rom from then on, theres no need to flash so no risk of bricking? Whats the pro's and con's of using HSPL or SSPL ? ( I personally was more keen on SSPL as my warranty isnt affected )
2. How come some rom chefs say that their roms cant be used with SSPL and you have to wait for HSPL ???
3. What are the possible errors/outcomes when something goes wrong when flashing with SSPL? how does a phone become bricked and are there any ways to recover it?
4. Whats with goldcard? is that only when someone needs to flash official roms if there particular leo is branded to a particular GSM? Mine is an unbranded, unlocked model so will I never have to worry about goldcard?
5. If my device does become bricked and there are no ways to unbrick it, what can I do to get a repair ect? someone suggested bunging it in a microwave for 10 seconds and then sending it off under my warraty claiming that I turned the phone off one day, and the next it wouldnt turn on (seems quite a clever idea, but a little extreme)
6. Can someone explain to me all about the radio? it seems to be a key part in flashing. What is it exactly, Im guessing its more complex than the fm radio lol, but I dont understand what it does to the phone, and I see only certain radio versions and compatible with certain rom versions. Also I see that flashing wih SSPL means you can only change OS's and splash screens, so will that create certain problems if you want change the radio version?
7. Im planning on flashing to THIS rom, for speed and performance while keeping some eye candy (Also I want to try windows mobile 6.5.3) is this a good choice?
Thanks all my questions for now, I would be SO appreciative if you guys could help me out as flashing is quite a scary concept for a £500 device
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1. HardSPL is always the best way to go if available as once you have it on your phone theres minimal chance of bricking than flashing without it as you will always be able to get back into the bootloader to flash a stock rom if anything goes wrong. Even if you put HardSPL on your phone you can always flash back a stock SPL in the event you need to return it for warantee purposes.
2. I would guess that those Roms include maybe a Splash Screen or Radio which cant be flashed using SSPL.
3. Theres always a chance that something can go wrong in whatever you do. HardSPL gives you the ability to get back into the bootloader and flash a stock rom if you need to recover your device.
4. GoldCard is for flashing Stock Roms from other carriers. If your phone is unlocked then that means it is sim unlocked and not carrier unlocked (SuperCID) therefore you would still need to use goldcard if you wanted to flash a Rom that isnt directly from your carrier.
5. If your phone does become bricked and you dont have HardSPL to recover it then there are many ways you can try to get a new one under warantee. My favourite is pouring sulphuric acid over it and saying aliens broke into your house and tried mating with it but you can go with your own idea if you want to lol.
6. The Radio really isnt a radio haha. Its a seperate firmware that handles all the communication related parts of the phone. This includes the signal, bluetooth, wifi, sound, camera and gps. Until HardSPL is released the only way to change the Radio is to flash a stock rom which always includes a radio via goldcard method.
7. Thats the cooked Rom I flashed on my phone yesterday and its a very fast and stable Rom with no bugs that I can see. The download exe file includes the SSPL so unless you want to change the radio first its just a case of synching and flashing.
Hope these answers helped and good luck with your flash. The first one is always the hardest but do everything by the book and you shouldnt have any problems
Thanks for all the help, Im glad I didnt flash with SSPL just yet, I think I will wait for HSPL as it seems that I can still get my warranty back with it (but I just thought, what if you had to send it in for it not turning on or something, and they found a way to get it running, they would then see the spl was changed as I would not have had the chance to change it back)
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4. GoldCard is for flashing Stock Roms from other carriers. If your phone is unlocked then that means it is sim unlocked and not carrier unlocked (SuperCID) therefore you would still need to use goldcard if you wanted to flash a Rom that isnt directly from your carrier.
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that isnt directly from your carrier? what do you mean, mines totally unbranded and sim free ect, so It doesnt come from a carrier, meaning I dont need goldcard right?
(Heres another question while your around, I went to send a massive text to all my contacts, ( I changed it in the registry so I could have more than 10 recipetents so thats not the problem) wishing them a happy new year, and It appears that it is not working, even after applying the hotfix some messages are in the outbox and some in the sent items folder. Whats with that?
Thanks so much for answering, especially this early in the year/morning (haha) happy new year to you sir!
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Thanks for all the help, Im glad I didnt flash with SSPL just yet, I think I will wait for HSPL as it seems that I can still get my warranty back with it (but I just thought, what if you had to send it in for it not turning on or something, and they found a way to get it running, they would then see the spl was changed as I would not have had the chance to change it back)
that isnt directly from your carrier? what do you mean, mines totally unbranded and sim free ect, so It doesnt come from a carrier, meaning I dont need goldcard right?
(Heres another question while your around, I went to send a massive text to all my contacts, ( I changed it in the registry so I could have more than 10 recipetents so thats not the problem) wishing them a happy new year, and It appears that it is not working, even after applying the hotfix some messages are in the outbox and some in the sent items folder. Whats with that?
Thanks so much for answering, especially this early in the year/morning (haha) happy new year to you sir!
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If it was sim free then you might be ok flashing any stock rom but I cant garentee it. It will soon tell you if you cant so give it a go.
Might just be overloaded as there are quite a few people texting at this time and I havent been able to send a text on my phone for the last hour lol. Thats why I always send mine out early to beat the queue
Happy new year to you too I hope you have a great one
So many thanks
So many thanks.Happy new year....
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If it was sim free then you might be ok flashing any stock rom but I cant garentee it. It will soon tell you if you cant so give it a go.
Might just be overloaded as there are quite a few people texting at this time and I havent been able to send a text on my phone for the last hour lol. Thats why I always send mine out early to beat the queue
Happy new year to you too I hope you have a great one
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ok maybe thats it but whatever, I might try and apply some fixes for the sms ive seen around here. Hey when do you think the HSPL will be out, Im itching to flash my device
Official ROM upgrade - error 260
I have downloaded the official 1.48 upgrade exe from HTC. I have a choice of computers, win 7 64 bit or win xp 32 bit on which to do the update. I have tried both following the instructions within the package and both get to the verification stage and stop with error 260 - no connection. Can anyone tell me precisely what to do to get around this?
My HTC is a purchased unlocked device and I can explore the 16 GB card via Explorer on either PC
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I have downloaded the official 1.48 upgrade exe from HTC. I have a choice of computers, win 7 64 bit or win xp 32 bit on which to do the update. I have tried both following the instructions within the package and both get to the verification stage and stop with error 260 - no connection. Can anyone tell me precisely what to do to get around this?
My HTC is a purchased unlocked device and I can explore the 16 GB card via Explorer on either PC
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I would recommend using the windows xp system to flash as its more stable.
What method did you use to flash the Rom? You need to do it via GoldCard method described just follow the link in the first post and follow all the instructions to the letter.
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So many thanks.Happy new year....
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Happy new year to you too and the best for 2010
MSkip
I was following the instructions given in the ROM Upgrade software downloaded from the HTC site. It undertakes a verification of your phone software, but for some reason keeps saying it cannot connect with it. I had it connected via a USB cable. Maybe I need to speak with HTC on Monday.
I thought it might be Kaspersky stopping it, but switching that off didn't fix it. Perhaps I haven't got the computer sync'd correctly with the phone. Its not very obvious.
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I was following the instructions given in the ROM Upgrade software downloaded from the HTC site. It undertakes a verification of your phone software, but for some reason keeps saying it cannot connect with it. I had it connected via a USB cable. Maybe I need to speak with HTC on Monday.
I thought it might be Kaspersky stopping it, but switching that off didn't fix it. Perhaps I haven't got the computer sync'd correctly with the phone. Its not very obvious.
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Even if you have an unlocked phone you may still have to use the goldcard method to flash a stock rom.
SOLVED
Simply needed to instal WMDC.
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Simply needed to instal WMDC.
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yh that would help lol
Has anyone got any ideas on when a hspl is coming out?
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Has anyone got any ideas on when a hspl is coming out?
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No set date you will just have to be patient like the rest of us
I'm searching and reading various threads to try to get a grasp of where I stand but I haven't had a WMO phone in so long that it's taking me a little bit to get reacquainted with the process. That said, I traded my iPhone for an HD2 and my guess is that the guy had modded this a bit but I don't know what "stock" is for the HD2 and all that jazz. So here's what I have sitting in front of me:
SPL 2.08.HSPL
ROM version: Kumar's TMob P1.4 WWE
Radio version: 2.08.50.08_2
Flash size: 1024
Now, the phone's a little buggy from time to time in that the wrong time will display and the phone will lock up and need to be hard booted to get it going again and I'm wondering if it's because of the set up that's installed on it or what not? I'm going to keep researching and re-teaching myself on how to install custom ROMs and find one that I think will suit me best (it should come back to me in a bit ... the basics anyway) but if you guys could help me out and let me know where I stand and some suggestions on where I should go from here, that would be cool. I know this is a n00b question but I also know some of you enjoy helping people learn. I'm not asking for anyone to teach me how to do all of this ... I can learn that from the various threads.
i assume this is a TMOUS HD2?
one piece of advice i'll give you is not to flash your radio to any of the .51 variants as it will brick your phone.
eg. your radio is 2.08.50.08_2 -> do not get one with .51
radio's control your communications, 3g, wifi, sms, chatting etc and has effects on battery life
spl 2.08 HSPL means your phone is unlocked and you can run any ROM you like (CHECK FOR COMPATIBILITY WITH US TMOB) -> download HSPL2 and you can change this to w/e version you like.
kumar is one of the ROMS available.
if your phone is buggy i recommend looking at the task 29 stickies, these format your phone so you can install a new rom on a fresh device
Oh, yes, sorry ... TMOUS.
That's exactly the kind of feedback and guidance I'm looking for. Thank you very much. I'll make sure to refer to this as I go. At least I can be a little pleased that he did some of the work for me by unlocking it ... less steps for me.
Other feedback is welcome and appreciated.
a few pointers.
the 1024 flash size means it is a t mobile us (tmous) version.
most things will work just fine, there are two things you really need to know.
roms - your phone will only take roms based on version 2.1. find your roms in the tmous dedicated rom development section, not this rom development section. if you flash thee wrong rom the phone will hang at the boot screen, but is not permanent.just boot to bootloader and re flash.
radio - this is IMPORTANT. any radio with a 51 in the version WILL KILL YOUR PHONE STONE DEAD.
so example a radio called 2.09.51.x will destroy your phone, no known way to fix at the moment.
radios with a 50 in the version are fine. example 2.08.50.x will work.
in response to the other poster, you should only use spl 2.08.hspl, since thee only roms that work are 2.1 it would be pointless and possibly risky to use any lower version of spl/hspl
Okay, awesome. Thank you. You guys rock. I appreciate the help.
.cab files are the windows mobile setup files, they can be ran straight from your phone.
when you download a ROM, you will be given a .nbh file and an installer .exe, the installer and the ROM must be placed in the same folder.
to enter the phone's bootloader, hold down the VolumeDown key while turning on your phone, here you can also install ROM's without having to start the phone, especially useful because if you flash a ROM while the phone is on, battery checks etc will prevent you from flashing, very annoying if you have 49% battery, flashing from the bootloader prevents this.
hard resetting your phone (recommended after ROM flash): press the power button to turn on the phone WHILST holding down both VolumeUp and VolumeDown buttons, press VolumeUp when prompted, this is a hard reset, it simply wipes data from the phone and makes it setup like when you first got it.
currently on your Today screen on the phone, I presume there are 3 icons, and when you scroll down there is a 3x3 grid in which you can add icons to, do a search for Cookie's Home Tab, it adds more links, more functionality, and generally looks much better
You guys are awesome. I know it's frustrating to explain the basics over and over but I appreciate the time you've taken to respond.
Okay, I successfully ran task 29 and then installed a stock ROM (with radio 50) and everything seems to be working well. I think I'm going to leave it like this for a bit and see what I like and don't like about the stock ROM and then I can make a better choice about which ROM to go with if I decide to customize. I sincerely appreciate your help, guys.
sounds like a good idea
I'm glad we were of help
HI, yes I'm new to all things regarding modifying phones.
I have a T9193 and love it all bar
1) 3 icons on the front
2) internet connectivity issues
3) telstra locked down items
I'm not with Telstra however phone is working well on "three" except for internet lock by telstra.
OK Questions - there is SO much fantastic info on this site its doing my head in trying to find the basic for us newbie dumbies
1) if loading the cab I found to remove 3 front icons should I load HSPL 1st.
2) Regardless should i load a HSPL to start and if so where is the most recent
3) how do I tell which spl is on my phone I found OS , Manila, ROm etc but nothing with SPL or is this an addon I need to do.
Thank you sooo much I'm sorry for dumb questions but cant seem to find the
"Nob Newbies start here pages"
the thread I found by mskip was great but still not 100%.
Looks as though you need to go and vist the ROM section and have a read at Flashing ROMs for Noobs. Then read it again before you do anything - better twice read than once bricked.
Even flashing the HTC standard ROM (after flashing HSPL) will remove all the Telstra guff.
To check what SPL, ROM and RADIO you have the switch on the phone while holding down the Volume Down button - this gets you into bootloader mode.
Thank you this is what I needed - an idea as to where I need to start.
Thanks - more reading time
Hello members of XDA forum,
I seem to have a little problem currently, and have in fact had this problem for around 2 week's now, with tinkering for a total of around 10-15 hours to try install android onto my HTC HD2 phone.
I have recently been given a HD2 from a family member as they have receive a upgrade in there contract and decided to let me have a updated phone (as long as it text's rings and can check emails/facebook it's a great phone to me)
Now i have currently tried following multiple guides around to get me into the zone for starting to get used to installing android, but without any luck, i have mainly been trying to do the steps from this guide " How to Install Android on HTC HD2 – Android 4.0.4 " search on google.
But so far i haven't had any luck, and to be totally honest i have no idea why, i have great computer knowledge but this is seriously confusing me right at the moment, and I'm really tempted to just give in and go back to a outdated stock android phone, but i have put countless hour's into learning this. (attempting to)
Now the reason i wish to update from windows 6.5 is because market place and apps are no longer supported which is not good for my facebook/email need's and i really need to try and get a updated version of co-pilot for my motorbike which is why i want to upgrade to this phone.
Tonight i have spent 3 hour's following that guide, and i think i got as fair as i ever have, it all seem'd to install great, but when the phone booted up it was just like a animated screen saver and not doing anything at all apart from that, i have managed to get stock 6.5 windows on the phone around 12 times now? and still try to find updated detailed yet EASY to read guides, i have used the search bar on the forums but it seem's people have different problems, if some-one could throw me towards a good guide it would be amazing, i have tried nano i think, but wouldn't mind using a SD card to boot it off if that is alot easier/simpler, i'm really sorry if this does get asked alot but i have searched multiple times to try find a solution.
If no one has the time to try at help me out it's quite understandable due to the fact this is rather confusing to some-one who is new to the scene. but if some-one can help and would advise a different android version with a guide for that, that would be amazing.
I will check back and attempt again regardless in 18 hour's.
Thanks and regard's
Aaron.
Hi and welcome,
I would suggest making a short version of your post. That is a lot of text, without very useful information.
What useful information? Read below:
Which version of HSPL do you have?(Boot up the phone while holding volume down, it says there)
What radio are you on? (You can find this at the bottom left of the screen when booting up the phone. Or alternatively, you can find it after booting into Windows Mobile, in the settings)
Which bootloader have you tried using? ((MAGLDR or cLK) How to know? MAGLDR has a black screen with about 12 options to choose from. And it says aMAGLDR at the top. Otherwise you have cLK)
Are you using DataOnExt? (When installing the ROM, did you choose such option?) (And if you do, do you have the proper partitions on your sd card?)
As a beginning, I will advise you to follow a guide I wrote last year. The guide is rather easy and straightforward if you have the prerequisites already. Click here for the guide.
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Marvlesz said:
Hi and welcome,
I would suggest making a short version of your post. That is a lot of text, without very useful information.
What useful information? Read below:
Which version of HSPL do you have?(Boot up the phone while holding volume down, it says there)
What radio are you on? (You can find this at the bottom left of the screen when booting up the phone. Or alternatively, you can find it after booting into Windows Mobile, in the settings)
Which bootloader have you tried using? ((MAGLDR or cLK) How to know? MAGLDR has a black screen with about 12 options to choose from. And it says aMAGLDR at the top. Otherwise you have cLK)
Are you using DataOnExt? (When installing the ROM, did you choose such option?) (And if you do, do you have the proper partitions on your sd card?)
As a beginning, I will advise you to follow a guide I wrote last year. The guide is rather easy and straightforward if you have the prerequisites already. Click here for the guide.
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Hello, i'm on the 2.800 HSPL one, Radio version is 2.15.50.14, MAGLDR, No i did not attempt Dataonext, it might have something to do with partitions to be fair then, as i am new to that one, i will come back home tonight after work and try your guide this time, thank you for your reply.