[Q] Risky to root? - Galaxy S I9000 General

I've just receieved my Galaxy S (Swedish if that affects anything). How big is the risk of bricking when trying to root?
I've had the phone for 1 hour and dont want to make it to a papper weight already

Before you do anything. See if the phone can go in download mode. Hold volume down+ home and power button when phone is off. Let go off power button then home and vol down. If your phone can do that then its all good. Rooting phone is rather safe and i have not heard of anyone. Bricking from rooting. But you might need download and upgrade mode if something goes wrong. There's heaps of rooting methods too. Have fun.
typed with bloodied fingers on a Apple Newton 2100. Hail Fuhrer Jobs!

Not sure if I'm doing it wrong but the phone just boots as normal.

if your worried about breaking your phone does Dl ryanza lag fix do the root and do the lag fix it will be Alot fast and rooted

it's safe to root
but risky to do any other soft of hacks to make the devices faster

I primarily want to change country for Market and change the filesystem so it will be faster. Maybe unlocking SIM too. I'm not interested in changing ROM or anything like that.
Where do I start?

use this instead
AppBrain App Market
link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765081
djr83 said:
I primarily want to change country for Market and change the filesystem so it will be faster. Maybe unlocking SIM too. I'm not interested in changing ROM or anything like that.
Where do I start?
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I really cant get into download/update mode. Is it safe to root if I use adb?

yes rooting is safe
only put the update.zip file on the internal sd card
reboot to recovery mode using ADB or any other method
and select the file update.zip

AllGamer said:
yes rooting is safe
only put the update.zip file on the internal sd card
reboot to recovery mode using ADB or any other method
and select the file update.zip
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I'm in the same situation. My Recovery/Download mode is deactivated and my phone is so slow sometimes that it's frustrating to use.
I want to root and apply RZA lag fix
I'm wondering has anyone here ever "bricked" their phone by just rooting and having to recovery it using recovery/download mode?
I have to make sure that it's almost impossible to brick the phone while rooting because I would have to send the phone to Hong Kong because I bought the phone there and I'm currently in Canada.
Thanks

AllGamer said:
yes rooting is safe
only put the update.zip file on the internal sd card
reboot to recovery mode using ADB or any other method
and select the file update.zip
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Ok, think I'm gonna test it. Where do I get update.zip?

there are many listed in the development section
specially the topic about "easy root your phone"

AllGamer said:
there are many listed in the development section
specially the topic about "easy root your phone"
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Is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728754 the one you mean?
I'm also really interested in lagfix (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251), is this safe to do when I cant access download mode?

not safe to do with you not have download mode
many people have done it and died (sent back to samsung for repair) because of that
yet there are more people that have done it and enjoyed the new speed
so my recomendation, don't do it
go exchange your phone, and get one that has working 3 buttons before you do the lag fix
or just wait a few more days for FROYO 2.2
and if it dies with legit official froyo for public release, then its under warranty....
but yeah that will still suck, it will still mean like at least 5+ weeks without a phone to use.

AllGamer said:
not safe to do with you not have download mode
many people have done it and died (sent back to samsung for repair) because of that
yet there are more people that have done it and enjoyed the new speed
so my recomendation, don't do it
go exchange your phone, and get one that has working 3 buttons before you do the lag fix
or just wait a few more days for FROYO 2.2
and if it dies with legit official froyo for public release, then its under warranty....
but yeah that will still suck, it will still mean like at least 5+ weeks without a phone to use.
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Why would it matter if 2.2 is released? I'm not interested in flashing 2.2, I just want to do lagfix. If it dies because of the lagfix I guess an official 2.2 wont help me?
Is it even possible to get a new with working 3 buttons? I guess all the new ones have the download mode locked? And I'm not even sure I would be allowed to exchange it since it's really not anything wrong with the one I have.

they are mixed batches, even in new ones
you can get working 3 button and not working 3 button on the same shipment

Related

(Help Needed) I think I BRICKED my phone

Hey guys,
I've been reading a lot of the threads and it's pretty awesome how helpful everyone is. Could someone try and help me?
Here's what I've done. I started with a new Evo.
**Rooting Method**
-downloaded PC36IMG.Zip & evorecovery from Toastcfh
-Copied PC36IMG.Zip to SD card on phone
-While in bootloader, I started the update and rebooted
-It powered on, I removed the PC36IMG.Zip file from the SD card
-I powered it off and back on.
**Auto Recovery Method**
-I donated money for the "ROM Manager" by ClockworkMod and installed
-Then I selected "reboot into Recovery" and Powered off the phone
-I powered back up and nothing seemed to be different about the phone. I don’t get how I’m supposed to know it’s rooted.
ANYWAYS THAT’S THE LEAST OF MY PROBLEMS NOW
I did the Auto Recovery Method steps again and now IT WON’T TURN ON NO MATTER WHAT MODE.
I tried:
Taking out the battery, taking out the SD card, tried starting it in bootloader (vol down + power).
IS MY PHONE A BRICK NOW?
If so how can I fix this and if I can’t fix it, how do I return it without showing I voided my warranty? I’d prefer fixing it if I can.
1st check and make sure your batt. Didn't die
slimm9969 said:
IS MY PHONE A BRICK NOW?
If so how can I fix this and if I can’t fix it, how do I return it without showing I voided my warranty? I’d prefer fixing it if I can.
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if your phone doesn't doesn't turn on at all, there is no way to tell you voided the warranty. However, it is extremely difficult to brick these phones if you don't flash gsm roms/radios.
Make sure the battery isn't dead.
yes, and always do this stuff with the charger plugged in when flashing roms.
Does the Orange(not full)/ Green(Full) charing LED come on at the top of the phone when it is plugged in? If so charge it til green and try again.
moved to general forum.
so it won't even show the htc evo 4g bootscreern? try plugging it in the computer and try adb shell on it with EVO-recovery.zip to see if it connects. If it does, reboot recovery.
Use the RUU..
No lights at all. It's like there isn't a battery in the phone.
Someone suggested the battery might have went out. Shouldn't it still turn on or show an orange light with the plug. I think it should still turn on even without a battery when it's plugged in. ??
HOLD UP!!
WHILE I WAS DRIVING HOME i TOOK THE BATTERY OUT AND WHEN i GOT HOME i PUT IT BACK IN AND IT STARTED RIGHT UP. I STILL NEED TO FIX THE WHOLE ROOT THING.
How do I know if I rooted it (part 1)?
slimm9969 said:
WHILE I WAS DRIVING HOME i TOOK THE BATTERY OUT AND WHEN i GOT HOME i PUT IT BACK IN AND IT STARTED RIGHT UP. I STILL NEED TO FIX THE WHOLE ROOT THING.
How do I know if I rooted it (part 1)?
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Try to boot the phone into recovery using the evo recover.zip in part one
Rename or remove the pci.img w.e from your sd
Turn the phone off hold down vol. Down and power let it check click down on volume then click power button and boot into recovery then.....
download it unzip it onto your desktop open it up right click on recovery.bat if you on Windows click run. as admin if the screen goes up and just goes away then just click on recovery.bat normally you may have to click on it a few times if it runs and doesn't boot into rec. The 1st time.
The reason it didn't boot is because the "internal memory" had to be "reset", the only "real" way to do that is to take out the battery and wait about 1 minute, then snap it back in and boot up. - Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
So... My theory would be that if It had not needed to been reset to boot up, then It didn't Root... ??
Ok, that sounds logit. But, if you can entertain my questions just a little longer?
What is the rooting going to do to my phone? And what is the NAND Uprotect going to do?
slimm9969 said:
Ok, that sounds logit. But, if you can entertain my questions just a little longer?
What is the rooting going to do to my phone? And what is the NAND Uprotect going to do?
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Its going to let you run custom roms such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698350
slimm9969 said:
Ok, that sounds logit. But, if you can entertain my questions just a little longer?
What is the rooting going to do to my phone? And what is the NAND Uprotect going to do?
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Heres a list of roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698044
slimm9969 said:
How do I know if I rooted it (part 1)?
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Install Terminal Emulator from the Market (free). Launch the terminal, and enter 'su' and press enter. You should be at a root prompt (#). Confirm by typing 'id'; It should return 'uid=0(root) gid=0(root)'
slimm9969 said:
Ok, that sounds logit. But, if you can entertain my questions just a little longer?
What is the rooting going to do to my phone? And what is the NAND Uprotect going to do?
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Why the HELL are you here trying to root your phone if you don't even know what it'll do?
MuzikJay said:
Why the HELL are you here trying to root your phone if you don't even know what it'll do?
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I would assume it's so he can learn and progress like the rest of us.
Remember what mom said... If you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all.
DaveMW said:
I would assume it's so he can learn and progress like the rest of us.
Remember what mom said... If you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all.
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Well if you're doing something that can potentially destroy your $550 dollar device, you should probably first figure out
A: How it's done
B: WHY YOU'RE DOING IT
MuzikJay said:
Well if you're doing something that can potentially destroy your $550 dollar device, you should probably first figure out
A: How it's done
B: WHY YOU'RE DOING IT
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A. WHY YOURE DOING IT
and THEN
B. How it's done
i dunno i agree with you.. lol

Odin vs. Kies...

Hi Everyone,
I just laid my hands on the new Galaxy S. I was thinking before porting all my data into it, I will be upgrading it to the Froyo then transfer all the data. I read through the forums/guides, i found there are two ways of doing it. One is Odin and the other is Kies. Since this is my first step into the Android world, i would like to know which one is better and the preferred method of upgrading the phone's OS.
I have same ques. too.. And which is best rom for my sgs..
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App
Depends on what you want to do with your phone and what risks you are prepared to take. There is always a risk flashing your phone will 'brick' it i.e. make it unusable. If you flashed via Kies as this is official Samsung you're covered for a replacement phone by the warranty.
Odin is an unofficial program supporting unofficial upgrades, i.e. brick you're phone with this and if you don't know what you're doing you're stuffed. People at Xda are helpful but it can mean the death of you're phone.
Advantages - you choose the ROM / software you want. No bloat-ware from carrier. Generally cooked ROM's have sorted the 'lag' problem which slows most versions of the Galaxy S (even on Froyo 2.2). They are generally upgraded faster too but don't seem as common for Galaxy S as for HTC phones (someone please feel free to contradict me). ROM Manager app from the market should be able to download Cyanogen mod (supposed to one of the best) when it's finished for the Galaxy S.
I couldn't get Odin to work on Win7 64bit so I went for the official 2.2 update via Kies then used a 'lagfix' downloaded via the market (which also invalidates your warranty...). RyanZA (OCLF on market) worked for me really well on Android 2.1 but haven't tried version 2 with Froyo 2.2. I used a Voodoo oneclick lagfix but there's something going on between the developers and it was removed from the market. You may still be able to get the apk app file to install from SD card if you Google it but I can't find it. I used this and it worked really well.
Anyway, if you know this already my apologies. There's lots of other's here who know much more than I do but thought I'd share my limited experience so far.
I am guessing that the the Kies (I haven't installed it yet), needs a steady internet connection.
The Odin wont need it, since i am already downloading all the data to my PC.
If this is correct... i think i should try out the Odin, as my internet connection is too unreliable and gets disconnected every so often.
Also,
1. How would the Samsung people know that I have used Odin or Kies?
2. If I have installed Lagfix and i uninstall lagfix before taking it to Customer Service would they be able to find out?
Pretty newbie questions, but i hope you will clarify!
hell_storm2004 said:
I am guessing that the the Kies (I haven't installed it yet), needs a steady internet connection.
The Odin wont need it, since i am already downloading all the data to my PC.
If this is correct... i think i should try out the Odin, as my internet connection is too unreliable and gets disconnected every so often.
Also,
1. How would the Samsung people know that I have used Odin or Kies?
2. If I have installed Lagfix and i uninstall lagfix before taking it to Customer Service would they be able to find out?
Pretty newbie questions, but i hope you will clarify!
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First Kies completes the download before flashing your phone the same as Odin and your phone stores a record of the latest ROM / Kernal installed on it. It's under 'Settings' - 'About Phone'... See Firmware, Baseband and Kernal and Build Number.
Some lagfixes do have uninstalls so should be OK if uninstall works.
Ok. I'll go for Froyo with Kies. When Gingerbread becomes official then i'll take on Odin.
I'll have to look into lagfix. I have no clue which one's come with uninstall and which one's don't!
Personally I prefer Odin over Kies. Kies has bricked my phone twice and I have had issues getting Kies to recognise my phone. Before you decide to upgrade with either method make sure your 3 button combo works, if not then you really need to get this working as its your saving grace should something go wrong during or after a flash!
hell_storm2004 said:
Ok. I'll go for Froyo with Kies. When Gingerbread becomes official then i'll take on Odin.
I'll have to look into lagfix. I have no clue which one's come with uninstall and which one's don't!
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Always disable or uninstall a lagfix prior to upgrading.
sean2476 said:
3 button combo
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What is that???
3 button combo puts your phone into download and/or recovery mode. Vol up/ down Home key followed by power button [holding all 3 at once] Vol up for recovery mode. Vol down for download mode. If this doesn't work then forget flashing until you get it working.
imho Heimdall is the way to go. I wouldn't even install Kies.
Now that is new!
I only knew of two. Now in comes Hiemdall? This is confusing. Now I am from India. I have to check what my Operator is giving me! I may have to do Odin out of force rather than choice.
You may also need to ' root' your phone too before you can apply any of these changes as otherwise the phone is locked down. Look for an app called z4root on xda. It opens up your phone to these other apps (there are other ways of rooting but they can be quite involved for someone new to Android).
If you want to use Odin or Heimdal, & dont want to install Kies, check my signature for Samsung Drivers.
Install them & connect your phone to PC via USB & check if its recognized.
A forewarning & a suggestion.
Kies is known to F**k up phones into unusable state. & so is Odin. Heimdal is pretty geeky for most people.
If you endup with a bricked phone, you can always act stupid & convince the service centre guys that Kies was the culprit. I have Bricked 2 of my friend's phones & have gotten them a brand new replacement from Samsung.
hell_storm2004 said:
Now that is new!
I only knew of two. Now in comes Hiemdall? This is confusing. Now I am from India. I have to check what my Operator is giving me! I may have to do Odin out of force rather than choice.
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Before you attempt anything switch off your phone completely, hold Vol up + Menu + Power buttons in that order. when the phone shows the samsung splash screen, release the power button for a second while still holding the other two. Again press it back & hold all three till it lands you in the recovery mode.
If your phone can do this, you can take any risk.
Also PM rahulrulz & kalpik, they seem friendly & helpful & knowledgable.
Ok fellas! Its game on now... First let me read through everything. I think I have to read through Hidemall now as well. I like geeky stuff. Its just that this is something completely new for me! About the other people you mentioned, I don't know them! Since at least we are formally acquainted... I would PM you!!

[Q] MYT4G recovery mode

how do you put the myt4G in to recovery mode?
Wow not to be rude but did you try the search button......hold down the power button and the volume down button at the same time while the phone is off. The select recovery
Sent from my icy cold glacier freezing every phone in its path
i did and i tried search by looking up hbooting myt4g recovery mode couldn't find nothing i even googled it and found this method your giving me but for some reason when i hold down home and power then let go of power button it fastboots..
but now i realized its the vol button i was looking at the myt3G recovery...thank you.
this is not working for me BTW.... can anyone else help out?
l0uisz said:
this is not working for me BTW.... can anyone else help out?
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You have to have fastboot unselected before it will work. I'm looking into rooting my wife's mt4g, and that took me forever to figure out.
I have a vibrant, so I'm new around these parts. Still doing my research before taking the plunge.
lol! wow thanks i wouldve never figured that out hah! yea well this is very helpful here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 hoping that you know how to use ADB of course =) now i am ready to root !
OH! btw how do you get off recovery mode ? do u just pull the batt out?
l0uisz said:
lol! wow thanks i wouldve never figured that out hah! yea well this is very helpful here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 hoping that you know how to use ADB of course =) now i am ready to root !
OH! btw how do you get off recovery mode ? do u just pull the batt out?
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factory recovery image? that i am aware of, yes. but i might be incorrect on that.
bnielsen40 said:
You have to have fastboot unselected before it will work. I'm looking into rooting my wife's mt4g, and that took me forever to figure out.
I have a vibrant, so I'm new around these parts. Still doing my research before taking the plunge.
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Please use the term quick boot when referring to the reboot option that does not fully restart the phone.
Use 'fastboot' to refer to the low level utility / protocol that allows image (ROM,etc) flashing via USB
l0uisz said:
lol! wow thanks i wouldve never figured that out hah! yea well this is very helpful here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 hoping that you know how to use ADB of course =) now i am ready to root !
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No problem (clicky the thanks button ). I was actually leaning toward this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225. I'm still trying to determine the difference between it and the one you linked. The main purpose will not be really to flash any roms (she likes the stock), but to resolve some minor issues she has w/ her device. For example, her market fc's every time it updates - it's getting old to have to uninstall updates before she can even access the market. So I'm wanting to root so I can use TB to freeze the market updater.
cal3thousand said:
Please use the term quick boot when referring to the reboot option that does not fully restart the phone.
Use 'fastboot' to refer to the low level utility / protocol that allows image (ROM,etc) flashing via USB
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Aha...see this is the stuff I need to learn - I simply used that term b/c it's what was in the reboot option. So it sounds like "fastboot" is the same as Downloading mode on my vibrant, correct? In other words, roms can be flashed via either clockwork or a usb connection to a computer while the device is in fastboot...?
I need to find a tutorial that explains the basics for the mt4g. It's a pretty different animal than my vibrant. I'm creating my own flashable mods for my vibrant, yet I pick up my wife's mt4g and I'm back to square one. Fruustratting!
If you already flashed it, Power Off > Hold Vol Down + Power until booted > Vol Down to recovery and select
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No problem (clicky the thanks button ). I was actually leaning toward this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225. I'm still trying to determine the difference between it and the one you linked. The main purpose will not be really to flash any roms (she likes the stock), but to resolve some minor issues she has w/ her device. For example, her market fc's every time it updates - it's getting old to have to uninstall updates before she can even access the market. So I'm wanting to root so I can use TB to freeze the market updater.
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thats what i want i don't want to deal with flashing roms and all that crap lol i just want ROOT and keep it stock i just better not forget to UNroot before accepting an OTA update lol
hey i'am successfully rooted now with stock ROM! with the link i gave you! i think you should use the one i gave you its more detailed that the one you linked to me...theres a few things missing there in your link.

Lost all hope...

It seems that I was fiddling with my OTA and I lost my original build Kind of bummed out, and also the fact that I don't even know how to do a full backup. I did a nandroid backup which doesn't even work. I update to the new ICS firmware and messed up everything...Now I'm left in a gutter feeling utterly upset and don't know what to do. If there's anybody who pity's me, please help. It would be sincerely appreciated. I just want to start off fresh.
Mkami said:
It seems that I was fiddling with my OTA and I lost my original build Kind of bummed out, and also the fact that I don't even know how to do a full backup. I did a nandroid backup which doesn't even work. I update to the new ICS firmware and messed up everything...Now I'm left in a gutter feeling utterly upset and don't know what to do. If there's anybody who pity's me, please help. It would be sincerely appreciated. I just want to start off fresh.
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So where are you at right now. What rom and what exactly have you done to your tab.
Mkami said:
It seems that I was fiddling with my OTA and I lost my original build Kind of bummed out, and also the fact that I don't even know how to do a full backup. I did a nandroid backup which doesn't even work. I update to the new ICS firmware and messed up everything...Now I'm left in a gutter feeling utterly upset and don't know what to do. If there's anybody who pity's me, please help. It would be sincerely appreciated. I just want to start off fresh.
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Yeah, I share the pity with you Mate. You shouldn't have to look at that busted tab. Just put that shameful thing in a box and mail it to me, to help ease your pain. Heck, I'll toss in shipping so you won't suffer further insult and pain...
Seriously, though, there are plenty of tools and procedures here to bring it back to life.
First off, before you muck things up further, I would look in your nandroid backup, and get the UID number. Hopefully you wrote this down somewhere before you originally messed with things?
For starters, I would goto this link, and see if it works for you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699277
The english steps are not the best in the world, but you will get the general idea.
MD
shaun298 said:
So where are you at right now. What rom and what exactly have you done to your tab.
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At this moment right now, my a500 tab has that orange light on the bottom and it stays there, and when I turn on the tab it starts up normally like it would, and when it does it turns off. The strange thing is that orange charging light where the power button is, stays on even though I'm not even charging it.
I've tried changing the OTA, but after when it starts in the corner it says something like. " Not official blob" I'm not even sure I know what that even means....I have everything including nandroid backed up all the files into the SD card I had in my tab, I notice is there somewhere due to the amount of space it consumed on my SD.
So please! IF you know of any way to fix this I would be in great appreciation, also it's been a month since I've had this tab, as well I have a 2 year warranty.
Moscow Desire said:
Yeah, I share the pity with you Mate. You shouldn't have to look at that busted tab. Just put that shameful thing in a box and mail it to me, to help ease your pain. Heck, I'll toss in shipping so you won't suffer further insult and pain...
Seriously, though, there are plenty of tools and procedures here to bring it back to life.
First off, before you muck things up further, I would look in your nandroid backup, and get the UID number. Hopefully you wrote this down somewhere before you originally messed with things?
For starters, I would goto this link, and see if it works for you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699277
The english steps are not the best in the world, but you will get the general idea.
MD
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Hahaha funny guy! If you haven't seen my post its here and the reasons. Also I do have the UID saved on a text format on my pc...will that work??
So here is the issue are the current moment friend.
my a500 tab has that orange light on the bottom and it stays there, and when I turn on the tab it starts up normally like it would, and when it does it turns off. The strange thing is that orange charging light where the power button is, stays on even though I'm not even charging it.
I've tried changing the OTA, but after when it starts in the corner it says something like. " Not official blob" I'm not even sure I know what that even means....I have everything including nandroid backed up all the files into the SD card I had in my tab, I notice is there somewhere due to the amount of space it consumed on my SD.
So please! IF you know of any way to fix this I would be in great appreciation, also it's been a month since I've had this tab, as well I have a 2 year warranty.
Have you tried putting a stock update.zip on the root of your external sdcard and booting the tablet by holding the volume down button (left volume rocker) down while pressing the power button until the tablet finds the file and installs it. This should bring you back to unrooted stock ICS with locked bootloader and you can start over. Remember, this must be an update.zip file that is extracted from a stock RUU. You can't just rename a RUU file to update.zip.
Mkami said:
Hahaha funny guy! If you haven't seen my post its here and the reasons. Also I do have the UID saved on a text format on my pc...will that work??
So here is the issue are the current moment friend.
my a500 tab has that orange light on the bottom and it stays there, and when I turn on the tab it starts up normally like it would, and when it does it turns off. The strange thing is that orange charging light where the power button is, stays on even though I'm not even charging it.
I've tried changing the OTA, but after when it starts in the corner it says something like. " Not official blob" I'm not even sure I know what that even means....I have everything including nandroid backed up all the files into the SD card I had in my tab, I notice is there somewhere due to the amount of space it consumed on my SD.
So please! IF you know of any way to fix this I would be in great appreciation, also it's been a month since I've had this tab, as well I have a 2 year warranty.
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Well, you get the orange light because your EC Pwr management is probably fubarred. That should be fixed when you install a stock rom as suggested in both mine and the other poster.
Considering you have your UID, you should be ok.
Of course I don't know if this is a 3.2 or an ICS UID. Best to have both. The sbk is the same, but the uid numbers differ.
If it's a 3.2., check the Q&A thread for a post I did for a guy earlier today.
But you should be able to follow the steps for the update I posted earlier.
Blob means Bootloader. And looks like you had an unlocked bootloader?
Try to roll back to 3.2. That's where I would start.
MD
cruise350 said:
Have you tried putting a stock update.zip on the root of your external sdcard and booting the tablet by holding the volume down button (left volume rocker) down while pressing the power button until the tablet finds the file and installs it. This should bring you back to unrooted stock ICS with locked bootloader and you can start over. Remember, this must be an update.zip file that is extracted from a stock RUU. You can't just rename a RUU file to update.zip.
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What do you mean by RUU? Also I've tried a couple of the OTA updates, when I first got the tab it was on 3.1 HC didn't even update it or anything, just had a custom ICS ROM on it. Do you think you can post the steps or anything on how to do this properly and go fresh? It would be sincerely appreciate buddy.
Moscow Desire said:
Well, you get the orange light because your EC Pwr management is probably fubarred. That should be fixed when you install a stock rom as suggested in both mine and the other poster.
Considering you have your UID, you should be ok.
Of course I don't know if this is a 3.2 or an ICS UID. Best to have both. The sbk is the same, but the uid numbers differ.
If it's a 3.2., check the Q&A thread for a post I did for a guy earlier today.
But you should be able to follow the steps for the update I posted earlier.
Blob means Bootloader. And looks like you had an unlocked bootloader?
Try to roll back to 3.2. That's where I would start.
MD
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Hmmm....I'm not even sure what I am doing wrong but whatever it is, it seems to be not working. I looked for you post for the earlier person that you did, but don't know what it is under. By the way when I first bought the tab it was under 3.1 HC and after getting flexreaper it became to ICS 4.0.3...
So like everytime I turn on the tab it shuts down instantly, as well every time I try to boot an update.zip file onto the SD card it shows this animation of the android with this circular sphere in it's stomach after that it falls over with a red caution sign.
Mkami said:
So like everytime I turn on the tab it shuts down instantly, as well every time I try to boot an update.zip file onto the SD card it shows this animation of the android with this circular sphere in it's stomach after that it falls over with a red caution sign.
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In my experience the common cause for ending up with a caution sign is a corrupted update.zip (incomplete download, bad SD card, etc.). As for the tablet shutting down, my guess is that's related to the power management functions being broken.
im not THEE most savvy here but i do know a few methods and find it easy to discover lesser known ones, i feel bad for you . if you want you can skype video me and ill try talking it over and maybe a few methods? :highfive:
edit: ok from what i can tell your update was bad and your bootloader is causing problems, the power problems are probably arising from the bad power management as moscow desire told.
the tabs obviously rooted n all right? ok so how about flashing the v7 ics bootloader then trying a custom rom?......<-also recommended by moscow desire
lcd047 said:
In my experience the common cause for ending up with a caution sign is a corrupted update.zip (incomplete download, bad SD card, etc.). As for the tablet shutting down, my guess is that's related to the power management functions being broken.
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You're right! I was able to fix it and boot up to the usual! Thanks mate!
chismay said:
im not THEE most savvy here but i do know a few methods and find it easy to discover lesser known ones, i feel bad for you . if you want you can skype video me and ill try talking it over and maybe a few methods? :highfive:
edit: ok from what i can tell your update was bad and your bootloader is causing problems, the power problems are probably arising from the bad power management as moscow desire told.
the tabs obviously rooted n all right? ok so how about flashing the v7 ics bootloader then trying a custom rom?......<-also recommended by moscow desire
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Hi Chismay, well I thought I fixed the issue and the problem. Guess again I did not This I can't believed I used a leaked ICS OTA, kinda ruined most of the things in my tab. Lol just had it for a month and already messed it up by fooling around with it. But your help is greatly appreciated buddy! Would like to get a one on one instructions on what I should do.
Cheers!
Correct me if I'm wrong on this...
1. You originally had Honeycomb on your tablet.
2. You flashed FlexReaper on your tablet
3. You probably got a recent version of FlexReaper.
4. You never upgraded your bootloader.
5. You can still get access to recovery.
If all of these are correct, then I think I know what the problem is. It appears you flashed a rom that requires the ICS bootloader and not the Honeycomb bootloader.
This, I think, is an easy fix...
1. Download the following file: http://www.darktremor.info/files/FLEXREAPER-R12.5-ICS-1.031.00.zip (this is an older version I have on my Acer A500).
2. Put the file on your SD card.
3. Boot up into recovery (if you can't get there, stop here).
4. Once you are in recovery, flash the FlexReaper file you just put on your SD card.
5. Now try to boot and see if it works.
Let me know how it works either here, in a PM, or e-mail me at [email protected]. If you need further assistance, don't hesitate to contact me.
Mkami said:
Hi Chismay, well I thought I fixed the issue and the problem. Guess again I did not This I can't believed I used a leaked ICS OTA, kinda ruined most of the things in my tab. Lol just had it for a month and already messed it up by fooling around with it. But your help is greatly appreciated buddy! Would like to get a one on one instructions on what I should do.
Cheers!
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tkirton said:
Correct me if I'm wrong on this...
1. You originally had Honeycomb on your tablet.
2. You flashed FlexReaper on your tablet
3. You probably got a recent version of FlexReaper.
4. You never upgraded your bootloader.
5. You can still get access to recovery.
If all of these are correct, then I think I know what the problem is. It appears you flashed a rom that requires the ICS bootloader and not the Honeycomb bootloader.
This, I think, is an easy fix...
1. Download the following file: http://www.darktremor.info/files/FLEXREAPER-R12.5-ICS-1.031.00.zip (this is an older version I have on my Acer A500).
2. Put the file on your SD card.
3. Boot up into recovery (if you can't get there, stop here).
4. Once you are in recovery, flash the FlexReaper file you just put on your SD card.
5. Now try to boot and see if it works.
Let me know how it works either here, in a PM, or e-mail me at [email protected]. If you need further assistance, don't hesitate to contact me.
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Hahaha! Good job on guessing all that! I just followed your order from step to step and I was about to boot up normally! Everything might be erased and stuff, but hey at least I have my tablet working again :good: Case solved!

[Q] KitKat on a rooted Note 3.

Hi Guys,
First, I beg of you not to say RTFM on similar questions here regarding this. I have read them, and read them in their entirety. The problem I have is that none of them list how to get me though my issues on my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900A.
My problem is that I (as many others) really want to upgrade to the Kit Kat OTA released from AT&T a week or so ago. The thing is, I did root my device and as everyone know's this fails any OTA updates.
My question is two fold, but first I would like to explain that I rooted my device NOT for being able to install any custom ROM's. In fact I never had an interest in doing so as I actually like the stock OS's which right now I am still running 4.3. I rooted it specifically to be able to run network / packet sniffers on my own home network as a method to learn a little more about how things go over a network, seeing what I can learn and see if I can find any vulnerabilities. I also used it to try and clean bloat ware and other programs that with out root I can not uninstall or use, such as certain fast reboot apps. So, I really had no intention of using the Root to get me a custom ROM, as I wouldn't even know where to begin.
So my questions are this. Is there anyway that I can "un do" the root in order to let the device act as if it were never rooted? Or, is there anyway to force the OTA regardless of the device being rooted. My biggest fear is losing all the apps and files that I have on my device and I have never been able to get any kind of back up app to work, especially to restore anything from them.
I had read that one can use ODIN to flash the Kit Kat ROM, but while I have installed ODIN on my laptop, I am clueless on how to use it. I tried everything, but even with the USB drivers installed and working (I know this because plugged into the USB port, I am able to browse all the files on my device, yet ODIN continues to tell me that no device has been found.
Can someone please help me to understand what I need to do? Again, I don't care if I lose Root, I care that I don't lose all the stuff I spent months installing and getting my device where I want it. I really need someone to explain somethings to me as if I were a two year old, with out scalding me and making me feel like a complete idiot. I came here because everyone I have talked to told me that you guys would be the ones that could help me, and if you can't, then I am screwed and will have to just wipe the entire device and I just can't do that. I may wind up having to buy a new device and just transfer over what ever I can, however, in the mean time that is not an option.
To this end, I come begging for some serious help since I know you guys are the literal gods of Androids. If I must take some kind of custom ROM in order to get Kit Kat, I am somewhat willing, but I do not fully understand or know what ROM I would want to install as I have never in my life seen a custom ROM and what the benefits of having one are which is kind of why I really want to stick with the stock ROM and just keep getting the updates via OTA.
I have all the faith in the world you guys can help, I just don't know if anyone is willing to help since I know similar questions have been asked, but I do not know how to use what I learned for my particular device.
Thanks very much.
EU
Dardwizzle said:
Hi Guys,
First, I beg of you not to say RTFM on similar questions here regarding this. I have read them, and read them in their entirety. The problem I have is that none of them list how to get me though my issues on my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900A.
My problem is that I (as many others) really want to upgrade to the Kit Kat OTA released from AT&T a week or so ago. The thing is, I did root my device and as everyone know's this fails any OTA updates.
My question is two fold, but first I would like to explain that I rooted my device NOT for being able to install any custom ROM's. In fact I never had an interest in doing so as I actually like the stock OS's which right now I am still running 4.3. I rooted it specifically to be able to run network / packet sniffers on my own home network as a method to learn a little more about how things go over a network, seeing what I can learn and see if I can find any vulnerabilities. I also used it to try and clean bloat ware and other programs that with out root I can not uninstall or use, such as certain fast reboot apps. So, I really had no intention of using the Root to get me a custom ROM, as I wouldn't even know where to begin.
So my questions are this. Is there anyway that I can "un do" the root in order to let the device act as if it were never rooted? Or, is there anyway to force the OTA regardless of the device being rooted. My biggest fear is losing all the apps and files that I have on my device and I have never been able to get any kind of back up app to work, especially to restore anything from them.
I had read that one can use ODIN to flash the Kit Kat ROM, but while I have installed ODIN on my laptop, I am clueless on how to use it. I tried everything, but even with the USB drivers installed and working (I know this because plugged into the USB port, I am able to browse all the files on my device, yet ODIN continues to tell me that no device has been found.
Can someone please help me to understand what I need to do? Again, I don't care if I lose Root, I care that I don't lose all the stuff I spent months installing and getting my device where I want it. I really need someone to explain somethings to me as if I were a two year old, with out scalding me and making me feel like a complete idiot. I came here because everyone I have talked to told me that you guys would be the ones that could help me, and if you can't, then I am screwed and will have to just wipe the entire device and I just can't do that. I may wind up having to buy a new device and just transfer over what ever I can, however, in the mean time that is not an option.
To this end, I come begging for some serious help since I know you guys are the literal gods of Androids. If I must take some kind of custom ROM in order to get Kit Kat, I am somewhat willing, but I do not fully understand or know what ROM I would want to install as I have never in my life seen a custom ROM and what the benefits of having one are which is kind of why I really want to stick with the stock ROM and just keep getting the updates via OTA.
I have all the faith in the world you guys can help, I just don't know if anyone is willing to help since I know similar questions have been asked, but I do not know how to use what I learned for my particular device.
Thanks very much.
EU
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does ur kies run? if so turn it off.
USB debugging off? turn it on.
are u in download mode of ur phone? if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen.
after that u can plug in ur phone.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
antique_sonic said:
does ur kies run? if so turn it off.
USB debugging off? turn it on.
are u in download mode of ur phone? if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen.
after that u can plug in ur phone.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
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Hi antique_sonic, I would just like to clarify a couple things as well as answer your questions.
>does ur kies run? if so turn it off. <--- If you mean is it installed on my laptop and work? Yes it is, and yes it does, however, I almost never use it. Mainly because I was told that once you root a Samsung Device, Kies is no longer able to be used.
>USB debugging off? turn it on. <--- It is and has been turned on in an effort to try to sideload KitKat, but that was a hug fail. But I will leave it on for this discussion.
>are u in download mode of ur phone? <---- I have gotten here before but don't exactly know what to do once I am there since I don't know where to get a Kit Kat ROM, where to put it once I have it, or how to use anything in d/l mode.
> if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen. after that u can plug in ur phone. <--- Are these instructions for wiping the device back to the factory default? Will I lose everything currently installed and loaded on my Note 3? Or does this some how fix / allow for the OTA update to install completely because it no longer can tell the device is rooted?
Again, I must apologize because this is so greek to me.I am just trying to understand at this point what infact the instructions you gave me do, and what they are intended for. Is this just to get the USB drives to work properly? Or is this something that will help me undo root so that I would be able to install KitKat via the AT&T OTA. If now the latter, where I can I get a complete Kit Kat ROM and use ODIN to flash the ROM? This outcome would suck because I believe that this will cause me to lose everything on my device I worked so hard to get where I wanted. I have just over looked the fact that in rooting my device I there by killed my ability to keep my device updated with the latest OTA releases / patches.
Again, I appreciate you reply, but sadly I am in need of a bit more info if you could please.
Thank you so very much. I hope one day to be able to pay it forward, passing along the knowledge you have shared with me,
Regards,
EU
Dardwizzle said:
Hi antique_sonic, I would just like to clarify a couple things as well as answer your questions.
>does ur kies run? if so turn it off. <--- If you mean is it installed on my laptop and work? Yes it is, and yes it does, however, I almost never use it. Mainly because I was told that once you root a Samsung Device, Kies is no longer able to be used.
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do check, is it running in background ? check your task manager. if so, kill the process. Kies should not run together with ODIN. Otherwise sometimes will give problem to your ODIN process.
I normally only install the USB driver only, as this is the only thing needed to connect your phone to comp (as MTP, or as ODIN connection).
Dardwizzle said:
>are u in download mode of ur phone? <---- I have gotten here before but don't exactly know what to do once I am there since I don't know where to get a Kit Kat ROM, where to put it once I have it, or how to use anything in d/l mode.
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ok, in a very simple word. download mode is basically a state whereby your phone is ready to download system files and install the system files on your device.
This is the only state possible to get a connection to your ODIN PC to flash stock firmware, recovery (in .tar/.md5 format).
How to get the KK ROM ?
1) identify your device. which model it is. N9005? N900T? N900A? N900 blablabla?
2) goto samfirmware.com (register there if you don't have account. it is free). after that you can just find your firmware by typing on the search device textbox your device model (e.g N9005), and it will come out the list of your device firmware (normally they will show for the latest firmware list)
3) choose the firmware that you want to download (if your device N9005 international 32 gb, try to avoid the Hongkong / Taiwan firmware, as they have different PIT partition).
4) once you have the downloaded zip file from samfirmware, extract the zip, and then you will get the (.tar/.md5) file. Now you can use to flash this one over ODIN.
Dardwizzle said:
> if not, switch off n wait till vibrate to make it really off. then press vol down + home + power. then follow instructions to press vol up once u inside warning screen. after that u can plug in ur phone. <--- Are these instructions for wiping the device back to the factory default? Will I lose everything currently installed and loaded on my Note 3? Or does this some how fix / allow for the OTA update to install completely because it no longer can tell the device is rooted?
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no. no. no.
This is how to go into download mode in your device
Not yet talking about factory reset.
But yes, you have to backup your internal storage, as sometimes upgrading will cost you to do factory reset, and your internal storage will be gone.
Dardwizzle said:
Again, I must apologize because this is so greek to me.I am just trying to understand at this point what infact the instructions you gave me do, and what they are intended for. Is this just to get the USB drives to work properly? Or is this something that will help me undo root so that I would be able to install KitKat via the AT&T OTA. If now the latter, where I can I get a complete Kit Kat ROM and use ODIN to flash the ROM? This outcome would suck because I believe that this will cause me to lose everything on my device I worked so hard to get where I wanted. I have just over looked the fact that in rooting my device I there by killed my ability to keep my device updated with the latest OTA releases / patches.
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up to this point, I just remembered that you have N900A (AT&T) version. hahaha.
I go check the samfirmware, no release of KK yet at the samfirmware.
I'm sorry, I own N9005, and I never explore too much on the N900A, so I won't know what is the latest release, and where to get it other from samfirmware.
Dardwizzle said:
Again, I appreciate you reply, but sadly I am in need of a bit more info if you could please.
Thank you so very much. I hope one day to be able to pay it forward, passing along the knowledge you have shared with me,
Regards,
EU
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no problem. you just get your latest firmware first, once you have it, you let me know, i can give you step by step in detail, on how to flash to your device.
antique_sonic said:
up to this point, I just remembered that you have N900A (AT&T) version. hahaha.
I go check the samfirmware, no release of KK yet at the samfirmware.
I'm sorry, I own N9005, and I never explore too much on the N900A, so I won't know what is the latest release, and where to get it other from samfirmware.
no problem. you just get your latest firmware first, once you have it, you let me know, i can give you step by step in detail, on how to flash to your device.
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Sure sure, just laugh at me why don't ya!! LOL I will continue to try to find the appropriate firmware. I guess if I learned one valuable lesson in all this, it is just don't root your device if you don't plan on using custom ROM's. I had no idea that there would be no way to "unroot" your device once it's rooted. I was really hoping that you could just undo what ever is done to actually root the device, this way the OTA's will just start working again. Or that there would be a way to just force the OTA regardless of whether the device is rooted. I am not sure I truly understand why the OTA just won't install just because the device is rooted.I mean sure it adds SU to the device, and unlocks (I think) the boot partition or the boot loader, which ever, but regardless, why should the OTA package care and fail to install just because of that change?
Anyway, that's probably a discussion for another thread. I actually did find a Kit Kat zip that is like 150MB's it has a boot.img inside the zip, but it has nothing with an extension that ODIN can recognize. I would love to show you the zip, but it's too large to attach or email. The file name is 2400258.zip, but I forgot where I downloaded it from. It may be what I need to do the job, but with out someone seeing the zip I have no way of knowing if it's the files I need. I was not about to find any files with in it that are in txt readable format for me to say exactly what it is. It does have subfolders names Google and Android and the like but I am sure that is pretty useless with out seeing the full zip.
I will keep my eye on this thread and when I find something I can work with, or if you guys find anything I can work with I will come back and see where we can go next.
Thanks again bud!
Dardwizzle said:
Sure sure, just laugh at me why don't ya!! LOL I will continue to try to find the appropriate firmware. I guess if I learned one valuable lesson in all this, it is just don't root your device if you don't plan on using custom ROM's. I had no idea that there would be no way to "unroot" your device once it's rooted. I was really hoping that you could just undo what ever is done to actually root the device, this way the OTA's will just start working again. Or that there would be a way to just force the OTA regardless of whether the device is rooted. I am not sure I truly understand why the OTA just won't install just because the device is rooted.I mean sure it adds SU to the device, and unlocks (I think) the boot partition or the boot loader, which ever, but regardless, why should the OTA package care and fail to install just because of that change?
Anyway, that's probably a discussion for another thread. I actually did find a Kit Kat zip that is like 150MB's it has a boot.img inside the zip, but it has nothing with an extension that ODIN can recognize. I would love to show you the zip, but it's too large to attach or email. The file name is 2400258.zip, but I forgot where I downloaded it from. It may be what I need to do the job, but with out someone seeing the zip I have no way of knowing if it's the files I need. I was not about to find any files with in it that are in txt readable format for me to say exactly what it is. It does have subfolders names Google and Android and the like but I am sure that is pretty useless with out seeing the full zip.
I will keep my eye on this thread and when I find something I can work with, or if you guys find anything I can work with I will come back and see where we can go next.
Thanks again bud!
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I don't like spoonfeeding too much actually.
but I find u r quite funny. no offence.
I have no idea this will work or not, but I found this as the 1st search result on Google.
http://www.droidviews.com/install-android-4-4-2-kitkat-ota-on-att-galaxy-note-3-sm-900a/
just have a look first nd don't do anything till u understand the article.
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antique_sonic said:
I don't like spoonfeeding too much actually.
but I find u r quite funny. no offence.
I have no idea this will work or not, but I found this as the 1st search result on Google.
(I had to remove the link as the website thought I was adding it and gave me a no no warning that I can't post outside links cause I be a newbie!) BAH!!!
just have a look first nd don't do anything till u understand the article.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.
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Hey antique_sonic, no offence taken my friend, I am a giant goof ball, but I am also someone who doesn't mind working out my own problems. It's just sometimes with things like this where I am clueless and need a little hand holding. It's nice to know that there are people like you around to help out the dopes like me My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, and I will be looking into the link you sent tonight. I haven't been feeling well lately, I have two herniated disks in my back and I have End Stage Liver disease and I am only 39, so I sometimes get a bit under the weather and am down for the count for a few days. So I do appreciate your patience with me and all the help and direction you are giving me. I try never to abuse the help as that is no way to learn, and learning is actually one of favorite hobbies! Weird huh.... So, I am off to go read the link you provided me and update the stock on my website and hope I make some more sales so I can get some money to buy a new phone when I brick this one! LMAO! Thanks again Sonic, I really appreciate everything!
Dardwizzle said:
Hey antique_sonic, no offence taken my friend, I am a giant goof ball, but I am also someone who doesn't mind working out my own problems. It's just sometimes with things like this where I am clueless and need a little hand holding.
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No worries and yeah you should try to find first. by this way, you will learn faster, compare if someone do the spoonfeed.
Dardwizzle said:
It's nice to know that there are people like you around to help out the dopes like me My apologies for not getting back to you sooner, and I will be looking into the link you sent tonight.
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My pleasure to help. And no worries for late reply, as I will do the same when I busy with my real life job.
Dardwizzle said:
I haven't been feeling well lately, I have two herniated disks in my back and I have End Stage Liver disease and I am only 39, so I sometimes get a bit under the weather and am down for the count for a few days. So I do appreciate your patience with me and all the help and direction you are giving me.
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you are welcome mate. I'm sorry to read the news about your conditions. I can't say anything about this, but wish you all the best. Don't ever feel down in whichever state you are, just do the best in life, and we will never regret that 1 more day has passed.
Dardwizzle said:
I try never to abuse the help as that is no way to learn, and learning is actually one of favorite hobbies! Weird huh.... So, I am off to go read the link you provided me and update the stock on my website and hope I make some more sales so I can get some money to buy a new phone when I brick this one! LMAO! Thanks again Sonic, I really appreciate everything!
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GOOD !!!
go and grab sales, rather than you brick the phone.
Once again, u r welcome mate.

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