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Sony Ericsson haven't exactly been timely with there updates to the x10 neither have they been efficient with the ROM's they've made so personally I think I'll switch to HTC but I was wondering whether anyone will stick with Sony Ericsson for there next phone?
There hardware is great, I'll give them that but I feel its ruined by bad software that looks pretty but isn't efficient enough for daily use. I think if they can really get up to date and prove that they can keep up to date with other manufacturers then maybe I'll consider getting something like the supposed Zeus phone but as the Xperia series stands at the minute, I don't think I'll get another Sony Ericsson.
Ha! I highly doubt my next phone will be an android device all together.
I suggest every1 who don't like SE try another phone 2 realise how beautiful x10 really is.....
Big picture big porn... think abt it... hahaha joking.....
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Absolutely not for reasons which are too time consuming to explain in this post.
Maybe. I guess it depends on a few things. My primary consideration is if their next phone will have AWS (and not on contract). My second consideration(s) would be how they treat the X10 now (yay for MT!).
Pretty much it breaks down like this:
• If the X10 stays at 2.1 then there's a ~5% chance that I'll go with another SE
• If they update the X10 to 2.2 then their odds rise to ~65%
• If they update the X10 to 2.3 then their odds are a good 99.9%
• Unlocked bootloader? Probably won't happen but if it does then it's a solid 100%
Se may have been slow to update to 2.1. But look at how pathetic samsung is at updates
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Sony E , yes. Android No
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I think I'll stay with Sony Ericsson.
But I don't know if I'll change my opinion in the future, when an other brand releases an awesome phone.
But at the moment I say: Sony Ericsson 4-ever
Very much doubt it, only went se as I was impressed with the camera on my last se phone (k850i), but the x10 camera is very disappointing! Also the call volume almost makes the phone unusable! (was also low on the k850i)
x10 is fail in my eyes..
Never have i seen a more clever money making scheme.
it depends on the fait of My X10.
2.2 or 2.3 will refresh everything....+volume in call
My next phone will probably be a SE one.
Only had SE's over the last couple of years.
I doubt if it will be android again though.. I also still have the SE Aino wich is Symbian based and of course it has less capabilities then android but it is so much more stable!
Mine is a work phone, but I do get final say. I would stick with SE IF they get their act together with the updates.
In call volume, I really don't have a problem with it, my hearing isn't great and I don't have a complaint about it.
No I don't think my next phone will be a SE, because off lack of the support and slow reaction to the new versions of native Android OS. They maid a wonderful accessory (Mw600)to replice the missing radio, but this too don't work in full functions like display names of the caller & song titles.
In conclusion SE products have a grate design and do less than u expect.
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I think that my next phone will be from SE. Although the updates are slow, I've never had any problems.
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This thread is most likely gonna cause a lot of arguing on the forum so im closing
After being heard about such an awful official announcement made by such a trusted company like SE, we, all the SE customers for decades have broke trust on SE for its cheap marketting tricks and don't-give-a-damm-to-the-customers attitude of SE. So, I hope this thread can show the newbies how cunning SE can be and how their valuable toys can effect with SE's poor support to the customers. Despite being state-of-the-art technology used in X10 Arc, I wanna know how many wounded SE customers want to ditch SE here on because atleast this thread should help the potential buyers of X10 Arc in deciding whether to go for X10 Arc or save themselves from being a victim of SE once again.
So, Guys if you are one of those victims of X10/X10mini/X8 .etc , Let us show SE how much its poor decision can cost, Show them how many of us will ditch SE here on.
I'm gonna ditch SE for Apple. Apple iphone 3g despite being 3 years old , It has received all the support for so long until the hardware limits were reached , This is what called True software support. I really admire apple for this dedication to customer's satisfaction and I'm thinking to ditch SE for Apple. My next phone will be iPhone 5 without any doubts!
samsung infussssssssssssssssssssse
Ok. Bye bye. We'll have 1 less whiner to complain from now on =)
*shows you to the door*
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Ok. Bye bye. We'll have 1 less whiner to complain from now on =)
*shows you to the door*
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Geez, another one
lol ditching the x10 for an ifail 3g???
crack must be cheap where your at...
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ok these threads are starting to become really stupid, if you dont like the fact that the bootloader hasnt been cracked yet, well big damn deal, you spent your money, maybe next time thats a lesson learned to do more research and be patient! besides how really important is it to you? regardless if the bootloader has been cracked or not, it wont over power the new devices coming out every 3-6 months
the SE Arc is awesome but still ... after what happened with the x10 i don't think i'm going back and buy another SE trash . i've been a fan of se since K800
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the SE Arc is awesome but still ... after what happened with the x10 i don't think i'm going back and buy another SE trash . i've been a fan of se since K800
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SE dont care abt X10 now as ARC is released, in future they wont care abt ARC when some new model DOME will be out
the irony of someone saying they are leaving SE because the bootloader is not cracked and the going on to say how awesome iFones are has made my day. i have not laughed so hard in quite a while!!
cya, enjoy being able to install whatever you want on your ifone....oh wait
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the irony of someone saying they are leaving SE because the bootloader is not cracked and the going on to say how awesome iFones are has made my day. i have not laughed so hard in quite a while!!
cya, enjoy being able to install whatever you want on your ifone....oh wait
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by the way, Samsung is planning to bring the bootloader to their devices now
This will in no way affect the masses, us forum creepers and geeks is hardly noticable in their sales statistic, i will probably get a SE again only becouse they make the absolute most beutiful phones, the most stable software and judging from their word about the Arc they really did listen all the critisism! Cheers
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Coming from a 3g, I followed, bought at launch and then eventually sold the X10 4 months after purchasing.
It was such a shame as the design and build were solid. I ended up trading it in for a desire and now I have a dhd.
I check back in with this forum from time to time, and realise that selling the x10 was the right decision (for me at least) , as both desire and dhd are able to run both 2.2 and 2.3(unofficially). They also have the features that we were told the x10 was to get but never did. However I still find them ugly by comparison.
The arc does look like an impressive piece of kit, but so do LG and Moto's 2011offerings. Also with the developments planned for android this year, I'm not sure if I want to be burned again by SE.
Their OS update offerings were not well timed!
Closing this thread as its completely pointless
Now the X10 has reached the end of the road and new contract in 6 months do we stick with SE ie X12 Arc. Or what, Would defenitly buy one supported by J,Z and the rest of the team.
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for me, X12(Arc) is overrated.. Is too much for a mobile phone..
I'll stick with my X10 beast.
Your right, love my X10, hate SE. XDA are kings.
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The only advantage of X12 is camera, with XDA you can get the same performance like X12.
Just my opinion.
lol you got to be kidding me right you gonna be suckered into buying another SE product just be screwed over when they release the next phone ?
never again ...
They openly stated that they messed up with the X10 and did not know what peoples prios were. They also said that they have a completely different plan for working with the Arc. If i had they money, i would defenantly get one! It's still the best looking phone with the hands down best camera and gps, 2 things i look for in a device. So dont be so fast in putting SE off.
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lol you got to be kidding me right you gonna be suckered into buying another SE product just be screwed over when they release the next phone ?
never again ...
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We never got screwed at all. Se only promist 2.1 update. They keept all there promis if i dont remember wrong ? Im so sick of all the folks trolling about how mutch the X1 sucks... It not as bad how you want it to be. So se wont update longer as promist, like htc dose it. But its still a good phone. So stop wining !
And i would also go for the arc ( the hd video out is also a nice thing )
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will stick to my x10, disapointed to SE..
I still can't do voice dialing on my X10a despite the update to 2.1. SE keeps forgetting that a smartphone is first and foremost a phone.
I'm currently have my eyes on the upcoming Motorola Atrix 4G.
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will stick to my x10, disapointed to SE..
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I'll stick to XDA, fck SE
the only replacements that come to mind are:
if u into great looking phones : Xperia Arc
if u want poweful phone: LG Optimus X2 / Motorola Atrix / HTC ??? (they will be announcing one based on Terga2 chip at MWC)
Three things I'll be considering on my next Android (not anytime soon)
1. Upgradability
2. Design/Specs
3. XDA Support
The Arc isn't much of an upgrade from the X10 if you ask me. It's too early still. I'm waiting for something that'll blow me away.
Yeah buy the arc and get screwed again and left behind as android versions pass you by..no thanks!
Get htc or lg..should have lots of choice shortly too. Dual core phones are going to be amazing
Love my x10 but hate SE for screwing with us ,
Personally I dont think much oF SE ARC ,
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se promiset update each their model for two years so x10 finishing in autumn of 2011.se finished with x10 earlier [8-9months]as they told to public
I would like to thank everyone who helped me with the x10 feedbacks, i know u guys did it to avoid me suffering on SE hands what u guys suffered. I sent the X10 package back, and paid the difference of an Galaxy S t959, that i think i cant go wrong.
I let my best wish for you guys, and at least u made SE lose one customer, even before buying the phone.
Thanks again. Ruben
Bye
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Sorry to hear the negativity scared you off It is a great phone.. I haven't used the samsung though so I can't comment, but at least you will probably actually get updates lol
Did you look at the Arc, or are you turned off on SE in general? Although you wouldn't know it by looking in the xda forums, but SE is supporting the X10 like any other Android. It seems standard in the industry that every Android phone gets ONE major OS upgrade, and other smaller ones along the way. The X10 just happens to have already gotten its update, while Android released two new updates in the meantime, making our new update already dated. Android shouldn't be releasing updates this fast in the future, and we've all (including SE) learned our lesson about getting a phone with a dated OS to start with.
Also, for future knowledge in the Galaxy forums regarding posting etiquette....You should have posted your farewell in the other thread you already started on this subject called "Hi", because this is not a new topic or discussion. Only start a new thread as a last resort.Especially ones that are not useful to other members. You may think you are saving yourself time by starting a new thread, but instead you are taking time from everyone else by filling the forums with more fluff for people to filter through.
Please don't take this the wrong way. Trust me, other people won't be as polite about it. In fact they can be rude and degrading, but the point is valid. In order for everyone to enjoy xda, we all need to do our part to keep it clean, organized, and useful.
For a full description of xda rules on posting read the stickie titled something like "Stop!!! Thinking about posting? Read this first!!! "
Goodbye. I'm sure your experiences with the Galaxy will be a lot better than what you would of have with the X10. However, it is for certain, once everything is cracked and sorted out, the X10 *will* be considered a great phone compared to others
If it weren't for XDA the X10 would be a pile of crap. Fortunately there are some great people here who have released much of the X10's potential, unlike SE.
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If it weren't for XDA the X10 would be a pile of crap. Fortunately there are some great people here who have released much of the X10's potential, unlike SE.
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If it weren't for XDA most of the devices would be crap, talking about my experience with Galaxy Tab and HTC desire
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if it weren't for xda most of the devices would be crap, talking about my experience with galaxy tab and htc desire
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Did you look at the Arc, or are you turned off on SE in general? Although you wouldn't know it by looking in the xda forums, but SE is supporting the X10 like any other Android. It seems standard in the industry that every Android phone gets ONE major OS upgrade, and other smaller ones along the way. The X10 just happens to have already gotten its update, while Android released two new updates in the meantime, making our new update already dated. Android shouldn't be releasing updates this fast in the future, and we've all (including SE) learned our lesson about getting a phone with a dated OS to start with.
Also, for future knowledge in the Galaxy forums regarding posting etiquette....You should have posted your farewell in the other thread you already started on this subject called "Hi", because this is not a new topic or discussion. Only start a new thread as a last resort.Especially ones that are not useful to other members. You may think you are saving yourself time by starting a new thread, but instead you are taking time from everyone else by filling the forums with more fluff for people to filter through.
Please don't take this the wrong way. Trust me, other people won't be as polite about it. In fact they can be rude and degrading, but the point is valid. In order for everyone to enjoy xda, we all need to do our part to keep it clean, organized, and useful.
For a full description of xda rules on posting read the stickie titled something like "Stop!!! Thinking about posting? Read this first!!! "
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How can u recommend Arc to an X10's unsatisfied user? both are basically the same and SE must be the loser here. X10 is a good phone probably yes but I cannot understand yet what happen to the idiot led light feature still not flashing like on my old nokia N80... Htc g1 was upgraded something from 1.5 to 2.2 passing through revisions and it seem 2.3 is next to be the released.... I'm trying to be realist nothing more. I've an x10 just because there wasn't option to buy another brand but I will never buy Arc even when SE would announce about permanent Os upgrades. If you want me to buy another SE device upgrade X10 first, then when it get outdated I will buy next generation Xperia may be dualcore or later.
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How can u recommend Arc to an X10's unsatisfied user? both are basically the same and SE must be the loser here. X10 is a good phone probably yes but I cannot understand yet what happen to the idiot led light feature still not flashing like on my old nokia N80... Htc g1 was upgraded something from 1.5 to 2.2 passing through revisions and it seem 2.3 is next to be the released.... I'm trying to be realist nothing more. I've an x10 just because there wasn't option to buy another brand but I will never buy Arc even when SE would announce about permanent Os upgrades. If you want me to buy another SE device upgrade X10 first, then when it get outdated I will buy next generation Xperia may be dualcore or later.
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He wasn't an unsatisfied user. He returned his X10 new after asking for advice here on xda. I myself said that while I LOVE my X10a, I wouldn't get one this late in the game unless he gets a new phone every 6 months because of how fast this technology is developing.
Thanks to the OP starting a new thread to say "goodbye", you missed the whole conversation in his other thread titled "Hi" started just a few days ago....
So too bad. This is not another bash SE thread, but good try
Once the bootloader is cracked, you will want an X10
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He wasn't an unsatisfied user. He returned his X10 new after asking for advice here on xda. I myself said that while I LOVE my X10a, I wouldn't get one this late in the game unless he gets a new phone every 6 months because of how fast this technology is developing.
Thanks to the OP starting a new thread to say "goodbye", you missed the whole conversation in his other thread titled "Hi" started just a few days ago....
So too bad. This is not another bash SE thread, but good try
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It is never too late to talk about SE idiotic politics to get people scared to stay with them... You have suggested Arc and stated about every company is offering same upgrade service, it wasn't true, it was too bad and a mere good try.
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It is never too late to talk about SE idiotic politics to get people scared to stay with them... You have suggested Arc and stated about every company is offering same upgrade service, it wasn't true, it was too bad and a mere good try.
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Name one android that has gotten 2 major OS upgrades.
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Name one android that has gotten 2 major OS upgrades.
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HTC Desire, launched with 2.1 is now officially on 2.2.1 and is about to get 2.3.
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Name one android that has gotten 2 major OS upgrades.
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HTC G1 is on 2.2 right now and could get 2.3 soon...
Definitively HTC is the best android partner and next to be offered by my telcom...
if the bootloader gets crackd as we heard famous geohot working on it
http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/03/04/geohot-buys-an-xperia-x10-to-hack/
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il buy X10 again
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HTC G1 is on 2.2 right now and could get 2.3 soon...
Definitively HTC is the best android partner and next to be offered by my telcom...
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OK, well it's a first. HTC should be setting this new standard. They have the longest and best relationship with Google. HTC manufacturers phones for them.
I will say good bye to x10 if just know which phone better. Just have to wait for experts to review new arc,neo,pro.
GN Multimedia - X10i
And being picky.. Neither of those phones have yet had the upgrades you mentioned.. So the answer is still 'none'! HTC should be ahead of the curve though.. They've been in this game longer Than anyone else.
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Moto Atrix
Smart man! As a consumer, you deserve freedom in the complete context and spirit of open source, even by law are supposedly guaranteed this right in terms of firmware, from ignition (power up the rom, boot load the firmware) to application functionality and presentation, you should be able to do what you will to YOUR phone, being it is an Open source device - primary selling point.
HTC, Motorola and others do this very well, so much better! Atrix has my money with the Tegra 2 dual core, 48gb storage, Gorilla glass, 1080p recording and playback and that awesome netbook to dock the device with running gnome abd from what I understand, virtual box and in effect, OS/X or Windows 7!
Stick your half pie camera and bravia marketing crap in your tight pie holes Sony! If I want a camera, I can get one that is a zillion times better than a phone for a lot less than your Arc, Neo, Pro or Play... haha ****a!
Sony lack vision to grasp open source. They have no place in Android and anyone with half a clue, knows this +1
I was at a meeting today, the guy next to me had the HTC Evo 4G, looked like a sweet phone, but in the 2 hour meeting the guy had to take the battery out FIVE times because the phone froze on him. In the year I have owned my X10 I have had to do that twice that I can recall. Made me feel pretty good about my trusty x10! Just thought I'd share given all the *****ing about our phone sometimes
That's why I love my phone. Never had any problem with it. Specially now that there's a lot of custom rom out there.
well, after all seems there`s no reason for battery complain
is right where it should be, in battery case
didn`t you tease with the guy? i would!
The X10 is very stable, even with mods.
But the EVO isn't bad, too. Wish they'd sell it here, too. Want at it as my second phone xD
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Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
Hey guys,
I just sold my HD2 and with the money i bought a brand new x10. I deceided to post a thank-you-all-for-the-support-post at their sub forum and they almost ate me alive. I was called crazy etc, now since i received the brand new package and that i have spent almost 3-4 days of heavy usage i can say honestly the following:
1. From the design point of view the device is awesome, fne and classy.
2. The OS is stable and the harware works just great.
3. From the camera point of view there is not much to compare, actually comparing the cameras of HTC and Sony is pretty insulting i guess.
4. The headphones from the pack are great
So anybody can feel free to diss X10, i can say that the phone is great and i do not regret selling the HD2 for this Sony masterpiece.
I feel sorry for two guys: the owner of the HTC Evo and the guy whom opened a thread asking for opinions about X10, but at the end he will get a Samsung (fa)i(l)Phone Galaxy
F*ck the negativity, f*ck SE's decision, f*ck bootloader, X10 rules!!!
X10 is even cooler than ARC
Hi,
From the design point of view (phone sleeping!) I think that the front-view of X10 is way more balanced than XPERIA ARC. Have you noticed the distance between the top of the screen and the top of the heady phone?
OK, ARC is thin on the side-view but phones do not "walk like the Egyptians"
I would expect that the follow-up on X10 would be something like the attached picture... I love the visual balance of the X10.
Bye,
Alex
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Since I got my X10 last July, I never ever had to remove the battery for any other reason. Never hang or freeze on me yet, knock on wood! He! He!
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Same for me, I dun have such problem after using my X10 compared to my previous HTC devices.
The user experience for X10 is simply great, SE has done a good job.
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I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
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I must be just unlucky then, I've had to remove the battery loads and the phone keeps restarting. As I write this I'm preparing my phone to send it for repair.
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just because U installed custom Rom or didn't update properly. Bad luck for U. But it worth to try that U backup everything ( but no the downloaded from market), hard resest. and try to repair by SEUS. Then if U have 0.24 or 0.435 build, everything shuold work fine
I'm gonna cheat on my X10 with the Arc......does that make me horrible? Lol
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last time i did this with symbian phones
The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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The problem with the arc or any new phone is all the bugs. Honestly how much better is the arc to the x10 ?
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Well I can't not purchase a new phone being affraid of what bugs it might bring right?
I'm certain the arc is alot better than the x10....only time will tell.
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Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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Don't get why previous X10 owners wants to get out and buy another SE android device. After the way they treated you with this device. Im not going back to a SE device next time I'll go out for a new smartphone.
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Its simple....because some people actually like/love there X10's (myself included) and I do not care about SE and anything they have said. The boys here at XDA have us covered.
The Arc has everything I want in a smartphone....so why wouldn't I buy it? Its fits my needs better than any HTC, Samsung, Motorolla, etc etc.
I don't care about dual core this and dual core that...I don't care about "retina display"
I don't care about my phone having the highest specs possible when released...because in reality, it will be outdated in a month anyways.
SE never promised or said they would give us 2.2+...they have given us what they said they would (except DLNA...bad bad boys for that)
Anyways, I think you understand what Im trying to say...just because your not happy with SE, doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.
Oh...and don't take anything I said "offensive" or "personal"....I wasn't being rude or aggresive
Just thought Id add that before I start a war lol
Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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Yeah youre right but SE does one thing better then all other Android Phones, the Style. The UI and Phone Style is very good i think no other Android Phone looks that good. Atleast this Time they launch the Phone on latest Android Version so its already one good step forward^^ And i dont think they will again do the same like with X10. But i buyed the X10 becouse of the Design most. I could have taken a Desire too but i didnt liked the Style i only liked the newer Android Version, everyone likes other things but for me stock Android is very ugly and alot of Android Phones too. Gingerbread is not that ugly but still not that good.
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+1 for that my friend. SE ui is extremely nice to look at. And the phone styles they create are excellent. I don't think they will be late with updating anymore. I'm sure they learned....and the hard way....they were blasted from all over the globe lol.
The Arc is launching with the newest android os....so that's one step in the right direction right from the start. But if the arc was launching with even froyo....I'd still be on board to buy this phone. I'm not to picky when it comes to android os versions.....well as long as its not lower than 2.1.
PS. I'm actually using you cm rom v4.1 right now....excellent work man....tho I like your old ui without the arc style better.
Best 2.2 rom I've tried tho.
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I pass from iPhone 4 to X10, no complain about it, only the lack of INSTAGRAM, I also have a Samsung Galaxy tab and Exchange email capability is the only one thing better than X10! Both devices are Telcel now unbranded!
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