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[Vent] Sound levels

Hoooolllly cr*p. The volume in the X10 is totally unacceptable! I had an appointment today I was waiting for a very long time and I set up 3 reminders/alarms. They went off. but I heard not a single one! Appointment missed, pushed back another month.
What is the point of an alarm function that you can't even hear!
All my volumes are set to max. I can't hear text messages going thru, I can't hear notifications going thru. My ears are fine, the phone whispers. God it's driving me nuts.
I've never had this problem with any other phone, could hear those things a mile away. Am rrreally starting to lose faith in something I can't rely on.
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denverseven said:
Hoooolllly cr*p. The volume in the X10 is totally unacceptable! I had an appointment today I was waiting for a very long time and I set up 3 reminders/alarms. They went off. but I heard not a single one! Appointment missed, pushed back another month.
What is the point of an alarm function that you can't even hear!
All my volumes are set to max. I can't hear text messages going thru, I can't hear notifications going thru. My ears are fine, the phone whispers. God it's driving me nuts.
I've never had this problem with any other phone, could hear those things a mile away. Am rrreally starting to lose faith in something I can't rely on.
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The x10 is a complete failure.
Bad GSM radio.
Bad audio.
Lack of hardware features.
Great cpu, camera and sexy screen let down by everything else.

OmegaRED^ said:
The x10 is a complete failure.
Bad GSM radio.
Bad audio.
Lack of hardware features.
Great cpu, camera and sexy screen let down by everything else.
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I second this. Sexy shell, but lousy internals.

Dunno what to say.
Mine is set to below halfway and it wakes me up just fine. Sure it's not the loudest phone I've ever had but it's more than acceptable (even without xLoud for most things).
BTW, did the snooze function work? I mean, if 3 alarms were set and if they kept on going, then they keep on coming back on every 10 minutes (default unless changed).
Maybe your loudspeaker is busted? Did you ever try any of the roms with xLoud?

Have mine set up with xloud and latest dsp manager app, combined, my phone now has the same volume as my friends galaxy s2, just about. However the speakers will die soon at that rate I expect. But my contract is up in 4 months so I dont care if I kill it!
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denverseven said:
Hoooolllly cr*p. The volume in the X10 is totally unacceptable! I had an appointment today I was waiting for a very long time and I set up 3 reminders/alarms. They went off. but I heard not a single one! Appointment missed, pushed back another month.
What is the point of an alarm function that you can't even hear!
All my volumes are set to max. I can't hear text messages going thru, I can't hear notifications going thru. My ears are fine, the phone whispers. God it's driving me nuts.
I've never had this problem with any other phone, could hear those things a mile away. Am rrreally starting to lose faith in something I can't rely on.
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You must either be a heavy sleeper, you're going deaf, or you have a defective phone.
I have my alarm go off on workdays at a bit over half volume and I can hear it no problem.
Seriously, all this X10 bashing is incredibly old.

Another question.
Was it an alarm or a calendar reminder that you were using? The reminder function for the calendar just uses the SMS tone.

xLoud is your friend. Huge difference with it opposed to without, just use some common sense though.
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OmegaRED^ said:
The x10 is a complete failure.
Bad GSM radio.
Bad audio.
Lack of hardware features.
Great cpu, camera and sexy screen let down by everything else.
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"bad gsm radio" !!!!!!!!!!!! You must be crazy.....SE has the best gsm radio in the these companies....or did you forgot that whos making the gsm radio and antenna is Ericsson itself....btw...ericsson is the best in the bisness.....plus did you forget that the x10 is a 2009 phone....its old...dont compare it to today's phones.....also the sound is just fine...i hear my phone ringing from miles away.........god damn.
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with all due respect, I still don't get why people **** so much about the speakers.
Maybe I've been lucky, I don't know, but I don't have any issue with the sound.
Granted, you need to put an appropriate ringtone... you won't here anything if you put a ringtone of rainfall
That said, If I had to complain of a similar functionality on the X10, it would be the phone's vibration, which I feel is very week compared to my old SE W810i.
I'v gone over three X10i (hugh...thank god for Orange France's insurance) and all have been exactly the same for me. No sound issue, but ****ty vibration compared to my old phone.

Just a thought guys and gals but it also depends on your ring tone. IMHO i find most of the standard ones a bit dull, but i found somefree mp3's and midi's online and the other morning when my alarm went off i nearly hit the ceiling! even woke up the girl
Pvy.
Here is my alarm tone. give it a go see if it helps
http://www.mediafire.com/?ibocw3qa76nvxci

walidhiphop said:
"bad gsm radio" !!!!!!!!!!!! You must be crazy.....SE has the best gsm radio in the these companies....or did you forgot that whos making the gsm radio and antenna is Ericsson itself....btw...ericsson is the best in the bisness.....plus did you forget that the x10 is a 2009 phone....its old...dont compare it to today's phones.....also the sound is just fine...i hear my phone ringing from miles away.........god damn.
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Wow, he doesn't compare X10 with anything.
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Personally phone speaker volume, vibration, hardware...I find spectacular. Phone speaker is exceptionally loud without dsp manager or xloud or any other programs. Vibration intensity seems to be fine for me. Hardware...I don't understand what is wrong with it...perfectly good to me...and GSM and WIFI work perfectly...always have H signal RARELY I have to use 3G I mean RARELY...maybe like for 2 minutes in a month. Always have phone signal...btw I have ATT. ONLY issue for me is SONY not providing proper phone SOFTWARE. GB update was a tad disappointing from their kernel, 16 mil, fps uncap, and everything else... was not a well done job.
OK...the IN-CALL VOLUME is something that bothers me; the only hardware related gripe. It is extremely quiet...barely can hear person on other side...when in average loud environment. BUT I suspect that with DSP Manager installed the IN-CALL VOLUME could be louder.
I am using "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" for ringtone/alarm.
I am using "Altair" for notification.
Your phone might have an issue. OR you...haha; deep sleeper.

Anyone know what the best option is, dsp manager or xloud?
The main thing I need is call volume clarity. I tried some versions of DSPManager.apk but they didn't seem to make a difference... Tips?
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im usin xloud
and believe me
its tat loud

Anseldor said:
with all due respect, I still don't get why people **** so much about the speakers.
Maybe I've been lucky, I don't know, but I don't have any issue with the sound.
Granted, you need to put an appropriate ringtone... you won't here anything if you put a ringtone of rainfall
That said, If I had to complain of a similar functionality on the X10, it would be the phone's vibration, which I feel is very week compared to my old SE W810i.
I'v gone over three X10i (hugh...thank god for Orange France's insurance) and all have been exactly the same for me. No sound issue, but ****ty vibration compared to my old phone.
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Aaah, the w810... probably my most favorite phone that i've owned. That phone had one hell of a speaker for its size.
I don't mind the vibration of the X10i. Yeah, it's a tiny-little-bit weak but it's good (really good IMHO) and really comes down to preference. I like how varied the vibration can be (mild, medium, high). I came from an N85 and that had only 1 setting: seizure. That thing would vibrate like nuts at anything. On a scale of 1-10, it was at '11' all the time. LOL

I find the speakers to be satisfyingly loud enough with xLoud. I use the Beep-Beep-Beep sound for alarm. never fails to wake me up.
Vibrations on large phones like this are hard as it's absorbed by the phone's weight itself but i find it rather pleasant to have than annoyingly skidding over the table.

tomh235 said:
Anyone know what the best option is, dsp manager or xloud?
The main thing I need is call volume clarity. I tried some versions of DSPManager.apk but they didn't seem to make a difference... Tips?
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I am running both, but if you just want one take the dsp, gives you an equalizer to adjust for clarity of sound. Yesterday someone posted a brilliant version of dsp in wolfs 2.3.3 thread. The apk is in a rar file so just use root explorer to install it
The sound is noticeably improved
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walidhiphop said:
"bad gsm radio" !!!!!!!!!!!! You must be crazy.....SE has the best gsm radio in the these companies....or did you forgot that whos making the gsm radio and antenna is Ericsson itself....btw...ericsson is the best in the bisness.....plus did you forget that the x10 is a 2009 phone....its old...dont compare it to today's phones.....also the sound is just fine...i hear my phone ringing from miles away.........god damn.
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Turn on 3G in a location with low signal and charge it, now browse online and watch the battery heat.
Don't cheat by putting the phone in LN2 first. try it in a nice 27*C summer ambient heat.
And tell me it's awesome. you can cook food on it. and the battery goes dead in 1 hour from there on, you can cook some meat by then and make some coffee on it.
Then once the power circuits have completely nuked you can use it as a paper weight.

people using xloud should be careful.....
mark my word, people are going to start blowing their speakers. You can hear it cracking/getting damaged.

Constant noise on top speaker

Got my Nexus 4 today.
Half an hour ago I realized some constant noise coming out of the top speaker, all the time.
It's very quiet but it's definitely there. Sometimes it sounds like if you have your phone near a radio or anything else with speakers.
Anyone else got the same problem? Might this drain battery?

No issue like that here.
Edit: After further investigation in a quieter place. I do hear a slight sound. As if the top speaker is on.
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I just checked. It is really barely noticeable, but it is there!

Let's try to narrow this down...
If you have the issue, write down if it's dependent upon anything.
Does disabling "touch sounds" fix it?
How about disabling noise cancellation?
If you blast some quick bursts of compressed air at it, does it fix it?
If you mute all the volumes, does it help/fix it?
Could you freeze the audio controller app (don't recall the name atm) in system/app?

I got mine today and don't have that issue
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I hope someone with the time and dedication will create a thread with a checklist of all the problems, so new owners can check if they have any of those problem and decide whether or not to return the unit.

Also have it here, I'll be surprised if this isn't a common issue.
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Me too, just made my first call and noticed it. Its the same if the volume is on or off.

This is being talked about here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993668

Just you check your old phones, please... Before all that panic...

G1ukos said:
Just you check your old phones, please... Before all that panic...
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^^ This. I just checked my Sony Xperia ion and it seems to be going "click..click..click..click..click..." over and over, with nothing going on. I bet a huge number of phones have this normally. How many of the "issues" we're seeing are actually just normal phone things, and people are just being overly picky just because it's THIS phone?

No issue here, at least not a constant buzzing.

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Thank you for pointing it out!
Man people are being crazy over this phone.
Next up, the touchscreen doesn't operate properly when water gets on the screen

My old phone doesn't do it

This has a high chance to come from the last kernel version ! Anyone using linux may have noticed this from the last kernel update of the sound driver , i think somehow related to the powersaving . It's surely annoying but not a big deal, more software related than a hardware defect.

pat972 said:
This has a high chance to come from the last kernel version ! Anyone using linux may have noticed this from the last kernel update of the sound driver , i think somehow related to the powersaving . It's surely annoying but not a big deal, more software related than a hardware defect.
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Very interesting.

That makes sense, I am sure there will be patches..
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SOLVED!
That noise is the combined anguished screams of those who couldn't get through on order day or who got back ordered.
Google records them on all android fans and then plays them back over the Nexus 4 at low volume.
Andy Rubin says it makes him smile and helps him sleep. :laugh:

My Xperia mini pro makes noise too. This is normal. Peace
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G1ukos said:
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Just checked my old phone(galaxy s3) with 4 different ears, and no such noise was heard.

"Klick" Problem after Speakers go off

Hello together,
i don´t find a similar Thread for the One with my Speaker problems. So i start a new one:
I got the following problem:
When i play a Sound with my Phone after 2-3 seconds the Speakers do a "klack" Sound in front of the shut down.
example:
When i press Volumen + or - the Phone plays a Sound, around 2-3 seconds later the Speaker do a "klack".
the problem seems for me similar with the problems the Galaxy Nexus got.
Someone can confirm that?

I get that with my Nexus 4 and almost every other Android phone i have used. I can mostly only hear it if i used some sort of volume boosting mod/app or if i hold my phone close to my ear after a sound is played. I think its normal, but annoying.

Wow, i thought i was the only one. I have the same issue. After playing a sound file (ring tone, music, anything), if you put the speakers to your ear you can hear a shhhh sound, then a "click" which almost sounds like the speakers "turn off". For some reason the same sound sometimes appears when opening a music app (such as HTC Music), as in the speakers get turned on OR some sort of amplifier gets applied. Turning off beats audio doesn't help. I got O2 (germany), 1.27 Stock rom. I'm tempted to try 1.28 custom rom to see if it's a software bug, but i am a bit afraid i might need warranty to get this fixed...

that is the sound of the amp / dac discharging. happens on my one x with and without earphones on

shiningarmor said:
that is the sound of the amp / dac discharging. happens on my one x with and without earphones on
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So it's normal? Can it be turned off or fixed via software?

firaX said:
So it's normal? Can it be turned off or fixed via software?
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i got rid of mine by uninstalling those volume boosting mods

shiningarmor said:
i got rid of mine by uninstalling those volume boosting mods
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I doubt that's possible on stock Rom, is it?

I have it also, not all devices have the problem but HTC is aware of it and working on a fix.

firaX said:
I doubt that's possible on stock Rom, is it?
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although it does click, but clicking to the point that is audible, i think something is wrong somewhere.. u might as well email htc about it

It's audible in a quiet environment when i have the phone close-ish to my face. Question is whether it's fixable via software update or whether i need hardware fix. I don't really feel like sending it in already...They'd probably say it is within tolerance anyhow.
I just wonder, tons of ppl complain about stuff such as "corner is too sharp, tiny gap etc", why don't more people complain about this noise if it is "normal"?

firaX said:
It's audible in a quiet environment when i have the phone close-ish to my face. Question is whether it's fixable via software update or whether i need hardware fix. I don't really feel like sending it in already...They'd probably say it is within tolerance anyhow.
I just wonder, tons of ppl complain about stuff such as "corner is too sharp, tiny gap etc", why don't more people complain about this noise if it is "normal"?
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I have heard it's fixable by software
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Is it like the click of death heard when a hard drive is about to die? lol! Sorry just curious but don't have my HTC One yet.

You never had a decent amplifier, had you?
It's dedicated amp. All those devices "click" when turned on and off. There's nothing to be fixed, although the sound should be very quiet.

It's like hdd click of death indeed. Sound is quiet but audible.

firaX said:
It's like hdd click of death indeed. Sound is quiet but audible.
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Like I said, it's an amplifier turning off (and on as well to be precise - but usually this sound is more subtle).

I don't think this is an issue. It's just a fact of life with speakers.

Hekatonpsychos said:
Like I said, it's an amplifier turning off (and on as well to be precise - but usually this sound is more subtle).
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i already said that. it should not be that loud
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firaX said:
It's audible in a quiet environment when i have the phone close-ish to my face. Question is whether it's fixable via software update or whether i need hardware fix. I don't really feel like sending it in already...They'd probably say it is within tolerance anyhow.
I just wonder, tons of ppl complain about stuff such as "corner is too sharp, tiny gap etc", why don't more people complain about this noise if it is "normal"?
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ah , it shouldnt be that loud too, unless you're using earphones and u hear the click then it's fine. but if hearing it without speakers, i think it is insulated badly. like i said, try emailing htc

My Asus D2X Sound Card for my PC does that, always wondered what it was.

[Q] Pop/click sound just before a normal sound if there's been no sound for a while

I'm sure this happens to most if not all Nexus 4 phone, but either it doesn't disturb the owners or most owners never notice it (or notice it but don't bother to think more of it.). I'm a sound person in general so it kind of annoys me.
This issue occurs usually when you haven't picked up your phone in a few minutes (or any amount of time more than a few minutes maybe) and you interact with it. The first time the phone tries to generate a sound (a touch or keyboard click sound maybe?) you might hear some kind of a very short pop/click noise just a little bit before you hear your normal sound. Then the rest of the sounds go on as they should, until you leave your phone aside and pick it up later again.
So, I actually wonder if anyone has bothered with that and if any talented developers have considered looking into it but abandoned hope. There's a case this could be hardware but I can't tell. Maybe someone can make a hack so that when the sound system wakes up when invoking a sound it performs some sort of fade-in first.
Anyway, I think this is an interesting issue and I'd love to hear what you think.

kokotron said:
I'm sure this happens to most if not all Nexus 4 phone, but either it doesn't disturb the owners or most owners never notice it (or notice it but don't bother to think more of it.). I'm a sound person in general so it kind of annoys me.
This issue occurs usually when you haven't picked up your phone in a few minutes (or any amount of time more than a few minutes maybe) and you interact with it. The first time the phone tries to generate a sound (a touch or keyboard click sound maybe?) you might hear some kind of a very short pop/click noise just a little bit before you hear your normal sound. Then the rest of the sounds go on as they should, until you leave your phone aside and pick it up later again.
So, I actually wonder if anyone has bothered with that and if any talented developers have considered looking into it but abandoned hope. There's a case this could be hardware but I can't tell. Maybe someone can make a hack so that when the sound system wakes up when invoking a sound it performs some sort of fade-in first.
Anyway, I think this is an interesting issue and I'd love to hear what you think.
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Mine doesn't have this issue.

xda6969 said:
Mine doesn't have this issue.
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Interesting, can you tell me if you are on stock or a different rom (or different kernel or whatever) ?

kokotron said:
Interesting, can you tell me if you are on stock or a different rom (or different kernel or whatever) ?
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I'm running everything stock.

xda6969 said:
I'm running everything stock.
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Replies I got at G+ indicate that this is a hardware issue and that indeed it has been around. And that I should go for a replacement. Bollocks.

Audio 'fades in'?

Don't know if this is supposed to be happening but anytime I play an audio file such as a ringtone or alarm or what have you, the sounds start off really quiet and then boost to their full volume after a second. Is there a setting I overlooked or is this by design? Anyone else seeing this?
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Settings, sound, increasing ring tone option? Not sure if that's it or not.

I have caught this also where it starts off quite and then all of a sudden gets really loud but don't think it is every time.

Aridon said:
Settings, sound, increasing ring tone option? Not sure if that's it or not.
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I'm not seeing anything there
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Does it happen every time or on random? Some phones have in the settings->audio->fade in option.
Maybe its somewhere deeper in sound options?
Or esle, it could be some kind of software bug, hopefully not.

Hmm, it seems to happen more when I make it make a sound, like messing with the ringtone setting or volume control. Hit the volume rocker once and it's a barely audible beep even though it's almost all the way up. Hit it again and it blasts at full volume lol
Reboot doesn't do away with it
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Yeah I've had this. Also the tone for notifications can be cut off short also. It's nothing major. I'm sure the next update will fix it.
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TrenchKato said:
Yeah I've had this. Also the tone for notifications can be cut off short also. It's nothing major. I'm sure the next update will fix it.
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Hope so, it's something small that bothers me
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I don't have the phone yet, but I remember this happening on the Nexus 6 also.
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Is there a setting for the phone being in a pocket? Might be it!!

jayharper08 said:
I don't have the phone yet, but I remember this happening on the Nexus 6 also.
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Yeah, this is true for me as well. I believe it's an AOSP "feature". I haven't received my MXP yet, but this happens with my N6 currently.

hajabooja said:
Yeah, this is true for me as well. I believe it's an AOSP "feature". I haven't received my MXP yet, but this happens with my N6 currently.
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Same here. Still using my N6 also. And I believe you're right. Seems like I remember someone saying it was a " feature".
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jayharper08 said:
Same here. Still using my N6 also. And I believe you're right. Seems like I remember someone saying it was a " feature".
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Ugh. A very odd feature
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Nobody mention that in the review, thats odd. We really need some quality in depth reviews.
Doesnt sound good (no pun intended).

I think it is some sort of speaker protection. I was playing music at call it 30% (it faded in). Then, as I cranked up the volume, it seemed to level off meaning 80%-100% sounded almost identical. Maybe an auto leveler/compressor to protect the twin speakers?
Complete speculation, your thoughts?

If you look at moto's official specs, they list something like "stereo speakers with smartboost". This tells me they have some sort of "feature" that dynamically controls speaker volume also.
http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-x-pure-edition#Specifications

eregev said:
I think it is some sort of speaker protection. I was playing music at call it 30% (it faded in). Then, as I cranked up the volume, it seemed to level off meaning 80%-100% sounded almost identical. Maybe an auto leveler/compressor to protect the twin speakers?
Complete speculation, your thoughts?
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If you look at moto's official specs, they list something like "stereo speakers with smartboost". This tells me they have some sort of "feature" that dynamically controls speaker volume also.
http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-x-pure-edition#Specifications
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Thank you both, I think we've got it. Must be deliberate.
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I notoiced this too, really don't like this... First 2-3 seconds it's very low