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So, I was thinking, since I got this phone I have been downloading apps willie nillie. Keeping it clean though, clearing out what Ii haven't been using. I was wondering if there is plans to add more screens.
I am not a coder, so I would not be sure how to do this. The extra 2 dots and screen preview I am sure would add extra difficulty for this. I would be willing to donate for this. I am a widget head and I Have a few apps I keep going to the menu for.
Thank you if you read this. Have a good day.
shoot, i can't even fill 5.
Have not heard of more than 5, but U can create folders on the home screen & fill them up with apps...
You see that figure on the bottom of the screen, with the little grid?
That's the equivalent of your 7 homescreens.
Download home++
Ok, so you guys seem to be confused, I wasn't actually asking your opinion or how you use your homescreen. I wan't asking if there was some crappy overlay app on the market for my launcher, I know how to use the phone, I know where the apps are.
This is actually a request for the devs. If one of them thinks this is feasible and decides to do it, it's on them.
So, unless you can code, i don't care. If you can code and even bother reading or considering this, I say thank you very much as I know that the devs time is valuable.
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Ok, so you guys seem to be confused, I wasn't actually asking your opinion or how you use your homescreen. I wan't asking if there was some crappy overlay app on the market for my launcher, I know how to use the phone, I know where the apps are.
This is actually a request for the devs. If one of them thinks this is feasible and decides to do it, it's on them.
So, unless you can code, i don't care. If you can code and even bother reading or considering this, I say thank you very much as I know that the devs time is valuable.
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Seriously, check out Home++
I find it's actually smoother than the regula launcher.
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Seriously, check out Home++
I find it's actually smoother than the regula launcher.
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Thanks for the tip dude. But I have tried that one, And I agree that home++ is really nice, Ii would like to see 7 screens natively in a custom rom or possibly an Add on.
I am curious how hard this would be to code to be honest... it seems that it was only a minor update/change seeing as 2.0 only had 3 screens...
i would also like to see 7 screens...most of my screen space is used up...
But surely downloading a small program like Home++ is better as you can choose the amount of screens.
I can switch from anywhere between 3 and 7 screens without worrying about blank screens.
Also Home++ is FAR smotther and faster than the stock home launcher which I find surprising.
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... i would like to see 7 screens natively in a custom rom or possibly an Add on.
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possibly an Add on?
never heard of an Add on.
there's an app for that LMAO
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Also Home++ is FAR smotther and faster than the stock home launcher which I find surprising.
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This is true
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Ok, so you guys seem to be confused, I wasn't actually asking your opinion or how you use your homescreen. I wan't asking if there was some crappy overlay app on the market for my launcher, I know how to use the phone, I know where the apps are.
This is actually a request for the devs. If one of them thinks this is feasible and decides to do it, it's on them.
So, unless you can code, i don't care. If you can code and even bother reading or considering this, I say thank you very much as I know that the devs time is valuable.
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Wow, there's no need to be a jerk. This is an open forum, where people post opinions, thus you can't dictate who or what gets posted in the thread you started provided its within the rules set forth by the mods.
Why not ask, ney, demand for 9 home screens. 9 is way better than 7 and while you're at it, why not have them wrap around cylindrical style. Oh sorry, here I am throwing idea's out in your dev only thread.
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But surely downloading a small program like Home++ is better as you can choose the amount of screens.
I can switch from anywhere between 3 and 7 screens without worrying about blank screens.
Also Home++ is FAR smotther and faster than the stock home launcher which I find surprising.
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Some of the comments suggest that it isnt faster than stock, how many screens are you using? Would Launcher+ by the same dev be better if all I want is a different number of screens?
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Some of the comments suggest that it isnt faster than stock, how many screens are you using? Would Launcher+ by the same dev be better if all I want is a different number of screens?
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Hey, here's an idea.
Why don't you download them and try them out for yourself instead if relying in what other people say.
Geeze.
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Wow, there's no need to be a jerk. This is an open forum, where people post opinions, thus you can't dictate who or what gets posted in the thread you started provided its within the rules set forth by the mods.
Why not ask, ney, demand for 9 home screens. 9 is way better than 7 and while you're at it, why not have them wrap around cylindrical style. Oh sorry, here I am throwing idea's out in your dev only thread.
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I'm not demanding anything, I asked, I even offered a donation. I am trying to dictate nothing, So read, ney, understand my post before you lash out friend.
Like I said, any dev that takes the time to read this I thank you.
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Some of the comments suggest that it isnt faster than stock, how many screens are you using? Would Launcher+ by the same dev be better if all I want is a different number of screens?
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I'm using 6 screens, here's how they're set out
1. Weather/Clock with memory widgets and 4 icons
2. power widget, Music widget, 6
3. Photo Gallery widget (full screen)
4. Twitter, Facebook widgets and another Music widget
5. Pure Calender widget (Full screen)
6. clear screen.
Works flawlessly and far better than the stock launcher.
I'm just curious why other developers haven't picked up on this seemingly game changing feature. The 4x5 Desktop Mod. I feel spoiled.
I was messing around, installing ROMs over the weekend (just doing a monthly shuffle to see what's out there) and I came back to Gingeritis solely because of the 4x5 Desktop Workspace mod. There really is SO much good work being done right now, it's insane and there were a lot of features/themes I really liked on other ROMs. In the end though, it was just too tough to go back to the 4x4 desktop.
I'm asking from a 100% laymans standpoint... is this a difficult thing to incorporate into a ROM? Has it been done before and people didn't like it? I'm just curious to hear what you guys think...
The extra space for me is great on two accounts... the most obvious... the extra space. The less obvious is that it allows me to space out my icons with a little bit more style revealing more of my wallpaper. OCD, maybe. But awesome none-the-less.
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I'm just curious why other developers haven't picked up on this seemingly game changing feature. The 4x5 Desktop Mod. I feel spoiled.
I was messing around, installing ROMs over the weekend (just doing a monthly shuffle to see what's out there) and I came back to Gingeritis solely because of the 4x5 Desktop Workspace mod. There really is SO much good work being done right now, it's insane and there were a lot of features/themes I really liked on other ROMs. In the end though, it was just too tough to go back to the 4x4 desktop.
I'm asking from a 100% laymans standpoint... is this a difficult thing to incorporate into a ROM? Has it been done before and people didn't like it? I'm just curious to hear what you guys think...
The extra space for me is great on two accounts... the most obvious... the extra space. The less obvious is that it allows me to space out my icons with a little bit more style revealing more of my wallpaper. OCD, maybe. But awesome none-the-less.
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Far from easy... It has been making me its ***** since I started... All of the Widgets need to modified, Rosie needs to be modified, etc. Chingy has a magic wand ya know ....
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I don't run Gingeritis so what exactly is this "4x5 Desktop Mod" because solely from the name it sounds like a feature launchers have had for a while which provides the ability to change the rowXcolumn dimensions of the homescreens.
Maybe that isn't it and feel free to correct me as I'm actually curious what this feature is that users love so if it isn't that aspect.
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Far from easy... It has been making me its ***** since I started... All of the Widgets need to modified, Rosie needs to be modified, etc. Chingy has a magic wand ya know ....
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Makes a lot of sense actually. I loved your ROM btw. Anytime I run through 4 or 5 Roms in a weekend I always am shocked at just how good all our developers are. Keep it up... if you get something going with the 4x5 desktop I'd be the first in line to install and test-drive it!!
EDIT: Just realized you're from Troy. I live in Royal Oak... basically on the border of Troy, Clawson, Birmingham and Royal Oak.
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I don't run Gingeritis so what exactly is this "4x5 Desktop Mod" because solely from the name it sounds like a feature launchers have had for a while which provides the ability to change the rowXcolumn dimensions of the homescreens.
Maybe that isn't it and feel free to correct me as I'm actually curious what this feature is that users love so if it isn't that aspect.
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That's exactly what we are talking about. It gives you more room on your home screens and app draw.
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That's exactly what we are talking about. It gives you more room on your home screens and app draw.
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Hmm, ok, I was just wondering why people stay on a certain rom for it if launchers like ADW and LP have done it for a long time. There must be something else I'm missing.
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I don't run Gingeritis so what exactly is this "4x5 Desktop Mod" because solely from the name it sounds like a feature launchers have had for a while which provides the ability to change the rowXcolumn dimensions of the homescreens.
Maybe that isn't it and feel free to correct me as I'm actually curious what this feature is that users love so if it isn't that aspect.
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It's exactly what it sounds like and I believe you are understanding properly.
It formats the desktop workspace to be 4 columns and 5 rows. Just adds an extra row to your standard desktop.
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Hmm, ok, I was just wondering why people stay on a certain rom for it if launchers like ADW and LP have done it for a long time. There must be something else I'm missing.
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I used to use ADW on my OG Droid. I've really enjoyed Sense so I haven't switched back over.
I don't believe I can use the Sense widgets (people, weather, etc) if I'm using ADW which is why I've stuck with my Rom of choice.
Wowowow... This thread is locked and I'll sort through it once I get home. Jeez people, play nice for a change.
i see thread after thread just spewing out hate for touchwiz..
how can so many of you not like touchwiz, lemme correct that *HATE touchwiz... i realize its the hip thing to do, to hate touchwiz, and you somehow think it makes you look pro, or cool, or like you know what youre talking about, but touchwiz rocks.. most of you havent even seen what the alternative is, you just hate it cause everyone else does.
do you realize losing touchwiz loses:
*built in screen capture by pressing home+lock
*task manager built into long press
*swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts
*toggles in drop down menu
*amazing UI in camera/file manager/ music player
*ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock roms are capable of
*swype
* ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth
* the option to use the actual touchwiz launcher
* Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by samsung
*S-Voice
*Eye Tracking
*Smart Stay, keeps the screen awake while you're looking at the display
*Popup Play
its not like having a stock rom gives you anything in place of these.. if you dont like the touchwiz launcher, you can install another one, nova, apex, go, adw, adw ex, i cant see why ppl are soo determined to get rid of it, and have nothing in its place. would you really rather have no options, in place of where you DID have options?
answer now is not anymore or don't hate it that much anymore.
I don't hate the touch wize, I hate the touchwize launcher and i miss all my touchwize apps, I actually wish I could have to touchwize framework on my custome ics rom just with a another launcher
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
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Right, but I am on a aosp rom, and sadly tw is not enough to make me leave it.
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The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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I got the Samsung GS I know about the market replacements but I want the organal, so far I got the clock and the task manger to work on my dark Knight 5.5, I am gonna try s voice tomorrow
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I really am hoping that I will like the new version of Touchwiz! If I can change the icons in the dock and on the homescreens as well as the size of the grid on the homescreen, then I see myself using it on my phone. If I can't do both of those things, then I'm using Apex.
I don't want to stare at the default dock icons all day long, they are way too cartoony and colorful for me. But yeah, if I can change ALL the icons in Touchwiz, slap a nice and dark wallpaper on there and get some Metrostation/Minimal Text goodness going... I would LOVE to use Touchwiz, because I always try to install as few third-party apps and stuff on my phones. I'm just afraid that it won't allow me the level of customization that I want. Lucky for me Android is about options, so I can have an alternative launcher on my phone within 2 minutes if I want.
So for me it's not about trying to be cool and hip. Those things come naturally to me.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ditching Touchwiz will affect like half of the things on your little list there?
EDIT: Task manager, swiping left/right in contacts, drop down toggles, camera UI, swype, brightness control, popup play and certainly Divx, Xvid, and .avi support... I don't see those being controlled by what launcher you use? I could be wrong though
Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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I agree but I have to go aosp to have ics on my phone
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I will continue using GO EX launcher, it does everything I like, no reason to change
have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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Yeah...
OP why do you feel the need to post the same thread here? Is it because no-one's posted for a few days on the one you've got in the S2 forum
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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The codec support is definatly the best and I love the small things they added like the customizable battery percentage, extended toggles in the pulldown, newsticker on the lockscreen, shortcuts on the lockscreen etc.. it seems like they let you customize alot and I think you can really tell they hired someone from the CM team.
The new touchwiz also looks pretty good, I really like that they use 5 icons now. The appdrawer looks great and the plain black pulldown also looks nice. I think it looks very grown up now and even though it's using popping colours I don't find it too tacky or cartoonish like many others. I can't stand the "buhuhuhu they ruined the beauty of stock ICS buhhuhuhuhu" comments anymore it might not be "eyecandy" like sense which btw. I find extremly ugly but it is super smooth, compareable with iOS, it's minimalistic and not too overloaded.
The browser in gingerbread was crushing pretty much everything. It kinda sucks on ICS ATM, but seeing some videos it seems like it's fixed on the S3. Chrome comes close but it's still so buggy and lacks features. Samsung still has the smoothest browser, thats for sure...
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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Sorry, but on my S2 Cyanogen 9 sucks compared to the custom ROM/Siyah kernel combo im using. I tried it.
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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not true, i added exclamation marks! lol
I love the that homescreens are added, removed and moved in touchwiz but wish that we could add a few more of them. Anyone know of a mod or something to change the limit?
Have you tried any of the launchers, like Go Launcher or Nova? Not only can you add more screens, you can increase your grid to like 5x5 (and other choices) so that you might not need as many screens.
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Have you tried any of the launchers, like Go Launcher or Nova? Not only can you add more screens, you can increase your grid to like 5x5 (and other choices) so that you might not need as many screens.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
I have tried both of those, and a couple of others, on my tablet, but they are not really appealing to my tastes. I know lots of people love them though.
I know there are mods to increase the # homescreens from 7 to 9 in the S3, as well as changed the # icons per screen :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155862
And someone has increased already changed the #icons in the S4 on one carrier (not sure if carrier makes a difference):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272582
So, I am hopeful we can see this on a Sprint S4 soon
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Thanks for the suggestion.
I have tried both of those, and a couple of others, on my tablet, but they are not really appealing to my tastes. I know lots of people love them though.
I know there are mods to increase the # homescreens from 7 to 9 in the S3, as well as changed the # icons per screen :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155862
And someone has increased already changed the #icons in the S4 on one carrier (not sure if carrier makes a difference):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272582
So, I am hopeful we can see this on a Sprint S4 soon
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Looks like that mod has issues in that it does not play well with TW widgets.
Sounds like you've not tried any of the launchers on your S4 yet. Might want to give one of them a shot. I have used both on my S4. Currently using Nova, but may go back to Go. Go has some nice features, like the home screens rotate. But both work well.
What is it about the launchers you don't like? I've read this in other places and don't understand it, so am curious. I have not been able to see a downside to them so far.
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Looks like that mod has issues in that it does not play well with TW widgets.
Sounds like you've not tried any of the launchers on your S4 yet. Might want to give one of them a shot. I have used both on my S4. Currently using Nova, but may go back to Go. Go has some nice features, like the home screens rotate. But both work well.
What is it about the launchers you don't like? I've read this in other places and don't understand it, so am curious. I have not been able to see a downside to them so far.
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You are right, that mod on the S3 didn't play well with some of the TW widgets. Which is not a big deal for me, but more icons and homescreens is.
What don't I like about Go etc? Well, its sort of like asking me why I like fat, heavy pens while you like skinny, light pens, for example. It just doesn't 'feel' as good to me. I tried using GO for quite a while on my CM10 tablet, and there were definitely some things that I liked. But honestly, its been months since I used it and I can't remember the specifics. I do remember thinking that there were a lot of features but it just didn't feel as good to me as Trebuchet on CM10. Sorry I can't offer a more helpful reply.
Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
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Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
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I think this is a limitation from Touchwiz. I don't have CM on my phone atm to confirm, but I know that the lockscreen Pin lock behavior is different on the Nexus 7. Meaning the key difference is the fact that on my Nexus 7 I can still use other widgets (Google Now or HD Widgets) on the Pin lock, whereas SGS4 TW does not allow that...
Nope. Wrong. Try adding a passcode and then try adding a camera widget.
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I think this is a limitation from Touchwiz. I don't have CM on my phone atm to confirm, but I know that the lockscreen Pin lock behavior is different on the Nexus 7. Meaning the key difference is the fact that on my Nexus 7 I can still use other widgets (Google Now or HD Widgets) on the Pin lock, whereas SGS4 TW does not allow that...
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This is correct.... Just tested this on PAC ROM and I could access the camera and other lock screen widgets with both a pattern and pin lock
Right, but is there a ROM or tool to make this work on a Galaxy S4? captivatingtab did you try this on your tab or S4? Also I don't use Touchwiz, I use Nova, which still has this limitation-- so I think it's the ATT Samsung ROM.
It amazes me that ATT/Samsung/Google could put out a ROM that (at least for me) is so buggy and misses key features. Don't want to get into the host of bugs I've found, just trying to get to camera quickly...
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Right, but is there a ROM or tool to make this work on a Galaxy S4? captivatingtab did you try this on your tab or S4? Also I don't use Touchwiz, I use Nova, which still has this limitation-- so I think it's the ATT Samsung ROM.
It amazes me that ATT/Samsung/Google could put out a ROM that (at least for me) is so buggy and misses key features. Don't want to get into the host of bugs I've found, just trying to get to camera quickly...
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It is the problem with Touchwiz, no matter what custom launcher you run, Lockscreen is still controlled by Touchwiz. Nova(or any other launcher) only replaces the default Touch wiz launchers Touchwiz Home or Easy Launcher, so you are still using Touchwiz with Nova installed, just not the launcher it provides.
This is a Touchwiz problem, having used an HTC One you can access 4 different apps including the Camera from the lock screen as your dock is visible on the lock screen.
If you flash a AOSP rom this problem will most likely go away.
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Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
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There is an alternative lock screen app called LockerPro in the Play store does what you ask, as well a providing lock screen notifications. I think you may still need to enter your PIN before accessing the camera if the timeout has expired, but its still a shortcut. There is a free version called LockerPro Lite that you can try out.
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I tried lockerpro, it doesn't work unless you enter pin as well. Thanks for information, looks like Touchwiz is way behind times-- Iphone has had this for a while, and even before it was on IOS there were Cydia apps that could do this. I'm astonished Android can't do this.
So I guess I have to throw out the AT&T ROM to get rid of Touchwiz?
I have to agree with the OP. I came from an iPhone, and I actually like touchwiz. But not having the ability to use lockscreen widgets with security options is pretty ridiculous.
It should be the users choice to have certain functions available without a password/lock. I understand Samsung attempted to make the device more secure and prevent "uninformed" users from making mistakes; but It should be our choice what we put out there. IMHO.
I not a developer by far, and a long-time lurker of XDA, I wish I had the ability to change Touchwiz to include this.
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Thanks for information, looks like Touchwiz is way behind times-- Iphone has had this for a while, and even before it was on IOS there were Cydia apps that could do this. I'm astonished Android can't do this.
So I guess I have to throw out the AT&T ROM to get rid of Touchwiz?
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Lets clear some things up...
First and foremost, Touchwiz is the name of the User Interface that we see. Its not an application, it is not a launcher (Nova) or anything, just the User Interface. With that said, Touchwiz features are the extra gimmicks added to the phone like Air View and whatnot. This is the ROM given by Samsung as stock, it has nothing to do with Android itself. So comparing Apple to Oranges (Samsung) is different than comparing iOS to Android (which you are not doing).
So "being behind on times" has nothing to do with Android itself. If you were to load a AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROM is it the same? Running AOSP on the phone is a different experience than running Touchwiz. It is closer to the Nexus stock experience than using Samsung stock ROM and is what Google wants as Android. So if you want to compare Android and state that your astonished it doesn't do something, then test it on AOSP based ROM and see if Android could do it.
As it has been confirmed anyways that what you want can be done running an AOSP ROM...
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This is correct.... Just tested this on PAC ROM and I could access the camera and other lock screen widgets with both a pattern and pin lock
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nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
starmanj said:
nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
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But as the consumer you have the choice on what you buy. If you want something that has X set of features you can buy it (Nexus for example), if you want other features you buy a different phone. This is not unlike buying a car - most cars (these days) have Bluetooth, but the implementations vary greatly.
You bought a phone with Android, and most stores let you compare dozens of models side by side. If Camera on the lock screen is a requirement, it is easy to test drive to find one that supports this.
My phone is rooted and stock - it has no lag and works fantastically well with superior battery life to any smartphone i have owned. Touchwiz is not perfect, but neither is stock android IMO.
Yes, this is off topic, but the point is that if you want only one way to do something, and only one way, then Apple is for you. I recommend iphones to the technically challenged and older people - they can't get lost. The home button is always there and bails them out from any screen. And I can always help them get to settings and menus are 100% consistent. These people don't want widgets and don't want to do any customization, they want simple consistent experience. Android gives choices and that may mean that one phone has a feature that another phone does not. But then there are 3rd party apps that usually step in to fix things.
Widget locker may let you put the camera on the lockscreen - has anyone tried that?
starmanj said:
Came from Iphone where you can use camera even from a passcode-locked lockscreen. All the answers on the net require a NON-passcode locked lockscreen to get to the camera.
Are there any ways around this?
Thanks
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Kjay's framework allows it. You'll need to be on a BMEA ROM to use iy though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42350844
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starmanj said:
nakedninja42 you are absolutely correct, thanks. I should say that I'm astonished that Samsung wouldn't offer this on their ROM.
Having said that, and maybe off-topic, my conclusion in moving from Apple to Android is Google allows far too much modification from the manufacturers and carriers to ensure a consistently good experience. Perhaps that's the nature of its open-source approach, but man has it been a massive pain trying to get a quality experience. Bluetooth problems, terrible lag, inconsistent application of UI rules, terrible battery drain-- in exchange for a more open environment (which, yes, is very important to me). Jury is out, I'm still trying to find a good working environment, not giving up yet.
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The nature of the game... Open-Source...
I haven't had any battery drains... in fact when I go to bed at night, I have ~50% left with the same usage I had on the S3 @ 10%. GoldenEye ROM solved all my other qualms with TouchWiz. I did find it annoying that I cannot use my widgets on the lockscreen that I removed my pattern/pin lock. I generally prefer running AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMOD, but I am waiting for the release of the Google SGS4 to see if the stability improves.
Yes I am waiting for the Google S4 ROM as well. I have CM on all my HP Touchpads so am a bit leary of quality of the device drivers for S4 at this point. The official Google version will fix that.
Theoretically, couldn't someone just find the files for the lockscreen and edit the code to allow it? I mean, it's like natively there already - right?
I haven't tried any custom ROMs, in fact i am pretty close to what the OP is describing, coming from an iPhone and having the learning experience. But I am really bummed I can't do it. lol
So bottom line is there any ROM that will allow the use of camera shortcuts or lockscreen widgets while having a secure lockscreen?
blackguy101 said:
So bottom line is there any ROM that will allow the use of camera shortcuts or lockscreen widgets while having a secure lockscreen?
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TW no, AOSP yes.
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shadowfiber said:
Theoretically, couldn't someone just find the files for the lockscreen and edit the code to allow it? I mean, it's like natively there already - right?
I haven't tried any custom ROMs, in fact i am pretty close to what the OP is describing, coming from an iPhone and having the learning experience. But I am really bummed I can't do it. lol
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Theoretically, yes. I am interested in this myself. I started programming a year ago and haven't had time to learn the ends and outs for Android to try yet. I am hoping someone with greater talents might be able to do it...