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Adverse effects of rooting?

I'm new to android and was wonder what adverse effects are caused by rooting the device. I know it voids the warrenty but does it effect anything else.
I read that it stops you from downloading paid apps from the market, is that true?
Thanks

Other than the warranty issue, there are no adverse effects of rooting. If you are rooted you can run any number of custom roms available, some of which are nearly identical to the stock. You can also use software that requires root access.
Paid apps are available from the market. One of the early posts in the dev area stated that paid apps did not work but that individual did not have their SIM card in.

Thanks for clearing that up.

But if Google comes with an update, you won't be able to get it??
Or am I wrong?

Depends on if its ota or download, but generally with root you will get updates before theyre official or published.

^ is right. Keep on this site, and if there are updates you will probably have it a month or so before it goes out OTA (if that is how updates will be sent for N1).
Another reason it could be an issue now, we do not know YET how to reverse it. With the G1 we can go back to stock and send it to HTC if there was an issue.... until we figure that out, you are stuck with the rooted phone b/c HTC will not be obligated to assist.

But that's only if I choose to install custom roms right?
If I only root it for getting full acces on the stock rom, then i won't get the pushed update?
And then I have to use costum roms for getting the update?
Please correct me if I'm wrong

If everything goes like it did for the G1/Dream, then yes, you are correct.

[Q] What is your benefit of a rooted device?

Hi all
Everyone wants to root his device, but why exactly are YOU rooting it? What is your motivation, from which feature do you gain something?
Please answer with specific apps which you are using and which do need root.
Thanks
Dominik

I had a Toshiba Folio 100 before (it was my first android device)... but because of very bad toshiba software I had to put a custom (rooted) rom on it two hours after I got the device at home...
In this case I used the root to tweak everything to make it work better and better, but also for Titanium backup...
When I got my second android device (the galaxy apollo), I rooted it, only for titanium backup, just to port some appdata from my folio to my apollo... I don't really need to tweak this device...
Now I have my transformer, I don't feel like rooting it... I have setup everything properly... The only reason why I would root it now is to install (again) titanium backup, and restore my Angry Birds data (Does any-one know a non-root way to do this )... I'm not gonna root this great device for that...

I rooted mine because I can, no kidding. Then I was able to take control of my tf. I deleted stuff from my system/data that was bloat using root explorer. Sometimes you need no reason to root but to be able to say...yea it's rooted..

Main reason I rooted my Android phone was to get rid of the stock HTC Sense, which IMO was quite bloated and slow. I put a custom ROM on and have a lot more free space, a HUGE improvement on battery life (I'm talking about a day extra) from the custom ROM and optimised kernel.
In the case of my Transformer, it is mainly rooted to take advantage of a custom kernel. With a custom, and appropriately optimised, kernel you can theoretically (and most importantly, in practice) improve the performance and/or battery life of your Android device through overclocking or underclocking respectively. I won't get into the nerdy details of the Linux kernel, but in a nutshell that's what is possible (among many other things) with an optimised kernel.
Apart from kernels I also rooted my device with the hope of Google eventually releasing the Honeycomb (Android 3.x) source code, so we can start to see some actual creativity from the more skilled members of the XDA community. I'm talking about custom ROMs that can totally change the way you experience your Android device. If you want an example, look up MIUI ROM and then compare it to stock Android ROM... of course this is with Android 2.x but this sort of variation and creativity is what we should look forward to (assuming Google eventually open up and stop being shy about their source).
Also not to mention the efforts of the people getting Ubuntu to work on the TF. This means you are able to run a full-blown desktop OS on your tablet alongside Android if you ever want to do more than what Android limits you to.
But really, you own the device so you choose what you want to do with it. If this type of stuff seems a bit over your head or you're pretty happy with a stock standard Honeycomb experience, then you never have to worry about rooting. But I say, get the most out of your device and root it
Any other questions, or if you don't understand some of the terms I used, ask me and I'll make sure to explain it better

The main reason for me is it lets you view and write to the /system and /data partitions. You can then install crap apps you don't like cluttering up your menus, and also transfer APKs you do like to other devices.
Also rooting and installing your own kernel is AFAIK the only way to allow ad-hoc wifi connections with your tablet. For some people with phones whose wifi tethering is based on ad-hoc, this is very important.

I just wanted to put patched host file to makse tf run faster
Its not bloated like sense

I had planned on rootin my TF first thing after taking it home.
It's almost a month now and haven't still rooted the thing. I have not needed doing it still... I tried and then unrooted and kept stock.
Regards.

life64x said:
I rooted mine because I can, no kidding. Then I was able to take control of my tf. I deleted stuff from my system/data that was bloat using root explorer. Sometimes you need no reason to root but to be able to say...yea it's rooted..
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I second this!!! Give me freedom on my computer!!! I buy android because I don't want somebody(steve jobs/bill gates) telling me what I can and can't do!!!

Titanium Backup for game saves.

The first thing I benefit of, and when it comes to rooting is adfree, and then of course titaniumbackup, rootexplorer.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

On phones, I root because I want to reove all the garbage that is installed there and to have Titanium backup and Cyanogen ROMS.
I have one TF that is rooted and running Prime and another that is stock and, so far, unrooted. For the TF, root is not as imperative as for the phones...

[Q] New to rooting..rooting pros and cons?

I am new to rooting and have a sprint samsung galaxy s 2 epic 4g touch. What are the pros to rooting these new and improved cell phones available now? Just curious as I have been reading about the hype of rooting and the headaches that can come along with rooting as well.
Thx in advance.

oi,you have just to decide if you prefer to deal with the headaches which you can get from an unrooted device or..the headaches you can get from a rooted one
i personally prefer to deal with a rooted device as the majority of people here at xda,the advatages from rooting are countless: you have full control of all the functionalities,theme your rom,install custom and better optimized roms,back up your system and restore it with a click using recovery,etc..
an easygoing explaination here and here

Well, personally I got one big reason to root my phone: to get ad-free apps ^^ Seriously, playing Angry Birds without ads feels so refreshing lol. Plus it's cool to have the ability to mess around with your phone as you wish, to get to browse all the system folders etc.
This message was sent from F*CK YOU. NOBODY GIVES A SH*T WHERE YOU SENT YOUR F*CKING MESSAGE FROM.

skeletonboy said:
oi,you have just to decide if you prefer to deal with the headaches which you can get from an unrooted device or..the headaches you can get from a rooted one
i personally prefer to deal with a rooted device as the majority of people here at xda,the advatages from rooting are countless: you have full control of all the functionalities,theme your rom,install custom and better optimized roms,back up your system and restore it with a click using recovery,etc..
an easygoing explaination here and here
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Hum, 95% of these advantages can be done without Rooting but with a Kernel that support CWM:
_ install zip from CWM to install ROM or Theme
_ Backup / Restore : can make a dump of 100% of the phone in Recovery
There's no reason to use CWM App to backup / restore / install a ROM. Only an Advanced kernel is needed, and must be installed the first time via Odin.
My only reason to have Root on my phone is Titanium Backup.. I don't use some "Ad-free" program or "Bypass the Market" tip, good apps must be paid as reward of the work.

Thanks to all for your posts. Slane, your post especially interests me. If I am reading your post correctly, you can install a kernel without rooting? From what I've read from other posts, once you root your phone you cannot get automatic updates?
Where can I find an advanced kernel? I think that my main concern with rooting is the potential that I will lose the wifi capabilities. I have read so many posts where an individual rooted their phone and lost wifi capabilities. Another concern of mine in the rooting process is with Kies. The only version that I could find uses wifi instead of USB connectivity.
Thx in advance for your feedback.

To Root or not to Root, that is the question

I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon

Jon12345 said:
I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon
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1. No, too fast system updates.
2. You habe to reroot it every update
3. No idea.
But no!
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Jon12345 said:
I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon
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You might want to read this OP POST and all user Questions and answers without this thread.. All of the above and more have been asked here. This Thread was STICKIED To avoid to many of this type of thread you just created.. With that said we all sometimes post without thinking.. Please go here where your Questions are already answered..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Good Luck
Erica Renee. Questions should be in the Questions and Answers Not General..

1 - I surely recommend. For me, root is the best thing you can do in Nexus 7, mainly because 3 apps i can´t live without now:
- PPP widget (3g modem working on Nexus 7) : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.draisberghof.pppwidget
- Stickmount (Any flash drive working on Nexus 7, i use it to keep all my emulators roms, and videos and it´s perfect!) : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount
- USB/BT Joystick Center 6 (it works with almost EVERY gamepad in the market, be it USB or wireless) and the best thing is that you can map buttons and analog sticks to use as touch controls, so it works with almost all games and emulators for android. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoy
2 - There´s a way to keep your root before updating, search for ROOTKEEPER, easy as walk...
3 - You can preserve all your data. JUST DO IT NOW!

Without adding toooo much to the spam on the forums I'll answer some of your questions.
Should you root? imo yes, if like me you want to use otg and be able to dim the screen enough that night time use doesn't blind you.
Do updates mess it up? yes but with the likes of Wugs toolkit it's easy to root again.
Your user data is easy to back up and easy to reload if for any reason you lose it.

Jon12345 said:
I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon
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Normally I wouldn't respond to redundant threads, but I don't like to see misleading information like this post left around to confuse people:
bstosnbata said:
1. No, too fast system updates.
2. You habe to reroot it every update
3. No idea.
But no!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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1) Rooting is an individual decision, but there is no real reason not to - outside of personal preference. Sure you could do something stupid and break your device, but 99% of the time it's easily recoverable. If you want to use some nice and very hand apps like Titanium Backup, you need root. If you want to run custom software (kernels, etc.), you might not technically need root, but you will need to do almost all the steps necessary to get there (unlock bootloader, install custom recovery, etc.), so you might as well root it to. The fact that the OS updates come quickly on a Nexus device is irrelevant. While the stock OTA updates will remove root, it won't undo the other things, which makes restoring root (especially with a "root keeper" tool) take about 10 seconds.
2) Yes, OTA updates will remove root. But, as I mentioned above, the fix process is trivial, so that alone shouldn't make any difference in your decision. Having root by itself will NOT break OTA updates. However, modifying other files on the system (framework, system apks, etc.) will. But you can always just reflash the full newer version or make backups of the modified files.
3) The first step of the "rooting" process, or the process to do anything custom, will require you to unlock your bootloader. If you have not done this yet, it WILL force wipe you tablet. No way around that. But once you unlock your bootloader the first time, you're good to go and don't need to worry about it in the future. Additionally, once that's done, using tools like TiBu and custom recovery nandroid backups make restoring your data MUCH easier then stock options.
In my opinion, rooting is a definite benefit, especially on devices like the Nexus7. I would recommend it for anyone who likes to play with their devices and maximize their capabilities. But it's up to you. There really is no downside, and it can easily be undone if you want later.
But as the other poster said OP, you need to read the existing threads/stickies in the future before asking questions that were asked and answered already.

The OP question was about whether to root his device or not, then you shot him down by saying he should have done a search and provided a link to how to root his devices. Some thread spun off to other topic but from the thread heading you will not know if you do a search.
I know that search should be done first, but not unless I can't comprehend the English language, that thread will not be the goto thread to answer that question.
I myself try to search for things I have seen before and find it hard to get back to the same thread, we are all here to learn and discover from each other and you don't need to put people down on how you answer their question, not unless they're Apple fanboy (pun intended).
Flame suit on!
Nexus 4 & 7

kwabby said:
The OP question was about whether to root his device or not, then you shot him down by saying he should have done a search and provided a link to how to root his devices. Some thread spun off to other topic but from the thread heading you will not know if you do a search.
I know that search should be done first, but not unless I can't comprehend the English language, that thread will not be the goto thread to answer that question.
I myself try to search for things I have seen before and find it hard to get back to the same thread, we are all here to learn and discover from each other and you don't need to put people down on how you answer their question, not unless they're Apple fanboy (pun intended).
Flame suit on!
Nexus 4 & 7
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I agree, while it may be a bind for the regular contributors to answer the same questions over and over people like me learn a lot from others asking questions.
I could use the search function and learn for sure, however how would I search for a question that hasn't arose for me yet? Just reading posts is the best way to learn general knowledge, if people didn't ask questions then I'm unlikely to go searching random things in stale posts.
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As simple as if you want root apps like ad block, then root it.
There are no risk and you can always back to stock.
For me, a non rooted android is useless.
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kwabby said:
The OP question was about whether to root his device or not, then you shot him down by saying he should have done a search and provided a link to how to root his devices. Some thread spun off to other topic but from the thread heading you will not know if you do a search.
I know that search should be done first, but not unless I can't comprehend the English language, that thread will not be the goto thread to answer that question.
I myself try to search for things I have seen before and find it hard to get back to the same thread, we are all here to learn and discover from each other and you don't need to put people down on how you answer their question, not unless they're Apple fanboy (pun intended).
Flame suit on!
Nexus 4 & 7
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There are plenty of sociopaths on forums. I just ignore them.
Asking questions is what makes a community. Fresh discussion is where it is at, else we would all go to blog posts and read articles on a topic. "Hey, why don't you Google your answer?" Nutters.

Pokemon Go with Fake GPS on the S5 Verizon

Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.

Let me rephrase the question. I can update to marshmallow 6.0 with images available on the internet. I will lose the ability to root the phone. But I may be able to run fake gps and play pokemon go.
Or I can try rooting it and then installing xposed or other frameworks to get the set up on lollipop 5.0 - which is root-able.
Which would be the recommended way for someone like me with mediocre android hacking skills and very little time?
Thanks.

Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.

yelloguy said:
Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.
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you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.

loadedpampers said:
Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.
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Thanks so much. I am currently not rooted and when I go to MM I cannot be rooted from what I understand. So I think I will do the upgrade when I have some time. I will lose the ability to root but I can live with that.

KaptinBoxxi said:
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?

Also, can anyone point me to a legit MM stock ROM? I have downloaded ODIN but I am nervous about the sketchy websites needing registration for downloading the ROM image. I need stock un-rooted Verizon ROM so I was thinking it should be easy to find. However I am not having much luck on the Googles.

Using Magisk 10.2 and the root bundled with it works. You just have to use Magisk hide which is now bundled with magisk.
I'm on vzw s5 running phoenix rom with root. Can still play pogo. No luck on xposed though.

Just a quick update. I got all the things in place for updating the phone to Marshmallow 6.0 and connected the phone to the computer for the first time. The phone gave me messages about installing software update agent and I followed the instructions. It offered to install the marshmallow update from verizon and I took that offer.
After the update, the option to select a GPS app showed up on the phone. I selected my installed app and almost everything works on pokemon go now.
I say almost because PoGo still jumps back to home location for a short second from time to time. But from what I can tell, the fix needs root. So I'll just leave good enough alone for now.
Thanks for all the help.

yelloguy said:
I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?
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i do so much with my devices that they need to be rooted. i do a lot of app debugging for my friend who makes games to help him out. i do have a spare phone that's not rooted for pogo now though. although htc m7's are awful haha

TechX1991 said:
you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers

kani1544 said:
Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers
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This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it

TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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bro chill man. i tried to google it but cant get the answer man. why are u getting so angry man. what did i do. Sorry i just posted my question at ur post to get my answers to my questions. But just curious why wont you share some info, is there some reason or something?

TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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should we chat private pm or something thats why?