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Tech radar did a very good full review of the Legend!!
Some questions have been answered for me:
-VGA camera video recording instead of CIF
-Very nice under direct sunlight opposed to the N1
Here's the Review: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review?artc_pg=1
Excellent find! Thanks!
I can't wait to get my hands on it when it starts shipping in April!
A couple of concerns I have based on that review:
- can't edit office docs natively
- non-hotswappable microSD
- battery life concern
- buggy wifi and bluetooth connections: I hope this is just because the device was an early non-retail build.
Also the review had the following to say about text-reflow in the browser:
One slight downside - we've let iPhone users play with the HTC Legend (we know, sacrilege) and they've said the text resizing takes longer than on their phone - if this doesn't apply to you, we doubt you'll notice it.
To that I say, "What?!". I wasn't aware the iPhone Safari browser did text-reflow at all! My iPod Touch certainly doesn't! Those fanboys are just sour that something better is out there...
About battery life with ALL new cell phones since 2008 we need at least 6 weeks of battery cycles before saying if it's bad or not, Nobody can judge out of the box if the battery is good or not.
When I bought 2 months ago my SE Aino the battery had to be recharged overnight on first week and I am not a heavy user...now 2 months later the battery is lasting 3 days and half. This experience was the same with my ex-Satio and ex-5800, so I think we don't have to worry about Legend's battery!
The review also complain a little on screen resolution while we know that it's 320x480 on a 3.2'' surface while the iphone (which has a very good reputation for its screen rendering) is the same resolution on a larger surface 3.5'', so the Legend beat down the iphone all the way in this field. And yes HTC could have used the wide empty space under the screen for an additonal 0.2'' but they didn't
What the review doesn't say that's interesting is the ringtone volume
There are still some questions this Review doesn't answer:
- Will the Black version be released in April? (Better for scratches)
- What will be the capacity of the SD card?
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,...0.htm?s_cid=82
http://gizmodo.com/5488019/htc-legen...eels-expensive
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-legend-review-0876928/
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http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39030106,49305224,00.htm
http://gizmodo.com/5488019/htc-legen...eels-expensive
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-legend-review-0876928/
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Great finds! Thanks!
I'm not sure if it's good or bad that nobody else mentioned the bluetooth/wifi issues that Tech Radar's review had. Either it was a one-off thing or the other reviewers didn't test those features.
Btw, that CNET review ticked me off. The reviewer sounded like an Apple fanboy with phrases like this:
Android is still clunkier and geekier than the iPhone operating system but, if you can't live without features like Flash support, the Legend is a fantastic alternative to Apple's handset.
Then I looked up another article that she wrote and it all makes sense.
Yep Apple bought tons of ''tech journalists'' since the Ipod and Iphone.
The only thing that I didn't like is that the paint can scratch easily, and no word yet about a coming release of the black edition,ok the Legend is ''Alu inside'' but I personally preffer the brushed metal of Hero over the ''cheap'' paint
I'm not so sure you guys are right about cnet's reviewer, if you've read a few more reviews and listened to the cnet podcast you'd know that she's a big fan of android.
It's not a bad thing that android is labeled geekier than the iphone, since the iphone is the dumb blond of the smartphone world, and that will always have more mass appeal
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I'm not so sure you guys are right about cnet's reviewer, if you've read a few more reviews and listened to the cnet podcast you'd know that she's a big fan of android.
It's not a bad thing that android is labeled geekier than the iphone, since the iphone is the dumb blond of the smartphone world, and that will always have more mass appeal
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You're right. It was probably unfair of me to label her as a fanboy since I don't know much about her. But it just seems unprofessional when you're reviewing a product and you make the effort to squeeze in little praises for the iPhone...
"...reminding us of the first-generation iPhone -- the most attractive version so far."
"...holding your finger on a page reveals a magnifying glass that helps you select and copy text, which is a handy feature cribbed from the iPhone."
"...the Android Market. It's not as well-organised as the iPhone's App Store,..."
Well, like it or not, and I personally don't, the iphone has provided a very slick user experience for the first time in the mobile world.
I don't like all its limitations and have no interest in buying any apple prodcuts, but there you have it. And that's why you almost can't read a single review without an iphone comparison, despite many reviewers missing the point that it's not an apples to apples comaprison, that if the apple offered what andriod does, it would also be 'geekier'.
I think Andoid's challenge is to move closer to looking like a dumb blond in terms of the user experience and everything working togetger seamlessly (including a music solution etc) but still offering the hardware variety and software freedom...
Review from Engadget.
This is the 2nd review that mentions the device's wifi reception issues
I wish they would have tested the bluetooth reception....
Wifi can be boosted by a FW upgrade but how Techradar/TrustedReviews and Engadget have very opposite report about the screen under sunlight??
As for the battery like I said it's useless to test it out of the box, they could at least compare it with a light user like me instead of focusing on a super heaby user, I mean my own Aino that last 3 full days with my usage would not last 8 hours with open 3G/BT/WIFI/GPS
As for video recording it's VGA 30fps but video bitrate seem low (perhaps a modded Cam driver can beefed this up)
Very nice review from TrustedReview: http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-phones/review/2010/03/10/HTC-Legend/p1
They are the first to say battery can last 2 days
I'm surprised they gave the legend such high scores, most of the review sounded critical
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/10/htc-legend-review/
Because the negative critics toward the Legend are minor
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/htc-legend-review
Another review popped up. This one from KnowYourCell.
It seems from all these reviews that the main flaws of the device are:
-battery life (probably not that big a deal once the battery is conditioned from day-to-day use)
-update frequency of Friendstream widget is slow.
For my usage the battery should last around 2-3 days because I will not use 3G nor GPS, as for BT and WIFI I use them for about 15mins before sleeping that's all.
Now in summer I will use about 2-3 hours a day of GPS because of the jogging GPS tracker (calories burned)
Is raging thunder 2 running on that device?
Hey,
I'm on T-Mobile right now and I have the n900. I'm thinking of moving to Sprint and getting the EVO this friday.
I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and I haven't really found a post with rational complaints about the phone. So I figured I'd ask EVO owners what the main issues are with the phone.
Battery life for instance, the n900 has pretty awful battery life but I've been able to make it work. I can get it through a 9-3/4 shift with 3G always connected. How does the EVO compare? I heard the Droid X might be even better but that's a no go for me.
I want to use the EVO as a primary phone and I'll do my mobile browsing and all that facebook/twitter stuff on it. I compared the n900 browser and the Android browser at the sprint store and I was damn impressed. It was a lot faster and it wasn't even on 4G.
Sorry for the long post. Bear with me, I'm a tad excited.
I love the EVO, its probably one of the best phones i ever owned. The battery is a bit of a problem, but then again your running a powerful phone. I would recommend that you root the phone and add a rom, preferably Damage Control, the battery runs amazing with the rom. Also, you can fix the 30 fps problem it has with a simple signed file.
Other than that the phone is amazing, it actually runs really fast on 3g, i havent tried 4g yet but 3g on this phone runs faster than other phones. The camera is just truly amazing on it, 8 megapixels and great video, 720p. I would recommend this phone.
Another option is to wait a little and try out the new phone by samsung, i cant remember the name at the moment, but that is another great phone coming to sprint.
I really don't like the look of the Epic 4G. Sprint has that 30 day return thing, right?
What is the 30 fps thing?
Also, I have been wondering if I should root it or not. I really don't like playing around with my primary phone, I haven't even overclocked my n900 yet. Is rooting something the average user would do?
nosa101 said:
I really don't like the look of the Epic 4G. Sprint has that 30 day return thing, right?
What is the 30 fps thing?
Also, I have been wondering if I should root it or not. I really don't like playing around with my primary phone, I haven't even overclocked my n900 yet. Is rooting something the average user would do?
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there is a known issue of stock evos being maxed out at 30 frames per second. the devs here have been working hard to remove that cap and have progressed in that quest very well just make sure when u get ur phone u check the hardware and panel to know what kernel to flash to get better fps (only way i know of the checking the panel is by rooting. not sure if u can do it without). awesome thing about android is that its completely customizable. as said by ruben8448, u can add a custom rom to spice up ur UI and also some come with kernels to help out with battery drain. they've released the source for the evo so there is gonna be alot of good things coming in regards to custom roms. u think the evo/android os is fast? wait for froyo. its a complete overhaul of the OS and speeds will increase 3-5 times faster. once u go android, u really wont wanna swap to anything else the options are just too endless
Is the headphone jack like the iPhone/iPod one?
I couldn't use my ipod earphones with my n900. The mic doesn't work too well with nokias
I figured I'd chime in here,I've had my Evo since the Friday after launch and love it.Battery drain was a bit of an issue before the updated radios came out but I was able to pick up 2 spares and a charger on Ebay for around 10 bucks.Since they updated the readios I'm generally getting thru my 10 hr day with about 50% battery remaining with what I would consider moderate use(total of an hour or so of web browsing,checking and replying to emails several times a day and a hand ful of voicecalls).I have rooted and its really been made quite easy to do now.I'm in total agreement with thgoob,once you've had an android you'll never go back
Another thing, the 30 fps issue affects only game graphics for the most part, right?
I agree with you on the 3G speed, while waiting for food last night, I loaded up a couple websites and was astonished at how fast they would load. Just purchased my EVO on monday, switched from a 3g iPhone, So far So good.
I'm not a gamer, and 30 fps is a non-issue - I really don't get all the whining on this issue. Coming from WinMo, cutting & pasting with Android is a pain. I don't see a good solution yet for editing spreadsheets. Can't use Skype with Android. Battery life is OK - you can get through the day with moderate use without changing the stock software. Screen looks great, fun to use.
i've not noticed any issues with the 30fps cap. perhaps i will noticed a difference if CM6 incorporates a change. but for me, its a non-issue.
i'm more looking forward to see if they can activate the FM Transceiver.
battery life requires that you compromise with your phone. some ROMs are better at battery life than others. I personally prefer the FRESH ROMs. stable and solid. the 4G is turned off most of the time because i live right along the edge of the coverage lines...so i chew through the battery in an attempt to stay connected as i commute and go up the elevator. when i need it, i turn it on (thank you QuickDesk) and away i go. but to be honest, the 3g is fast enough for most of what i do. the one big advantage of having 4g on is that my meebo does not disconnect if i take a phone call. if i'm 4g is off, a phone call will disconnect meebo. again not a 'OMG issue', but i do look forward to stronger 4g coverage.
however, with cyanogen about to release CM6 for the EVO, i will be jumping over play with that. keep in mind that CM6 is Android 2.2 Froyo (not the current EVO OS of Android 2.1).
oh...here is a good battery related thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
Battery life will always be an issue especially with a phone as powerful as the EVO and a screen this big. However, like posted earlier, rooting opens up big improvements for battery life and performance. Android is not a great OS for productivity. That's what Blackberrys and WM are for. The fps fix does improve scrolling and video recording in my opinion. Also, I recently switched from T Mobile after 9 years of service and Sprint's data coverage and speed are WAY better. If you like a physical keyboard get a moment or wait for the epic. Otherwise, go with the EVO.
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I'm not a gamer, and 30 fps is a non-issue - I really don't get all the whining on this issue. Coming from WinMo, cutting & pasting with Android is a pain. I don't see a good solution yet for editing spreadsheets. Can't use Skype with Android.
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How does the cutting and pasting work? I didn't think about trying that at the store
There is no android skype client?
How do close apps on the EVO? How do you switch between active apps?
I have been an EVO user since the day it came out and today I was offered a trade for the Epic. I was wondering what some of the other EVO to Epic users thoughts were? Its mainly the processor and keyboard that are drawing me into doing this trade, what are some of the other benefits of the Epic?
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The biggest thing to me was the screen. My gf has an evo and it's a great phone. I would have bought it if it was in stock, but then the epic was on the roadmap so i decided to try it. I really like it. I have some issues with the back button like others, but not a big deal. I also have had battery concerns, but i've been making it for around 15 hours on average and that's using the phone, not just letting it idle. The screen difference in the evo vs epic is like my old rear projector tv vs the best lcd tv on the market. This screen makes everything look so good. I still am amazed everytime i turn it on.
Both are excellent phones. My EVO is rooted with a custom 2.2 ROM and I still feel like my Epic with 2.1 is faster overall. I think once 2.2 is released for the Epic, there will be no comparison.
As stated above, you cannot compare the two displays. Every time I look at my EVO after using my Epic, I am dissatisfied with the display. Regardless of the fact that the EVO's screen is a hair bigger, the quality of the Epic's display is NIGHT & DAY better.
I do prefer HTC’s Sense to Samsung’s TW, but that is a small detail to me.
I will say that I seem to have an overall better 3g data experience with my EVO. As of the last few days, they seem to be dead even as far as 3g is concerned, but when I first got the Epic, it was definitely slower in the bandwidth department.
Battery life for me is slightly better on the Epic and when you consider that I use it a lot more than I did the EVO, it’s actually a lot better.
Overall I can say with certainty that I prefer my Epic over my EVO.
I was using a rooted EVO and the epic feels faster at stock than my evo ever has. Anyway, the screen is a lot better, the crappy viewing angles on the evo always bothered me. The keyboard is really nice for emulators and other games, although it takes a little getting used to. Th battery life on the evo is better as of now, but as a long time evo user I can say the epic at launc has far better battery life than the evo did, its taken a lot of updates to get the evo where it is now.
Basically the evo is only better in two ways right now, battery life and GPS performance, and I expect both of those to get better on the epic, and when the epic gets froyo there won't be much comparison. The evo was nice but it is wa outcassed by the epic imo.
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rtmski said:
I have been an EVO user since the day it came out and today I was offered a trade for the Epic. I was wondering what some of the other EVO to Epic users thoughts were? Its mainly the processor and keyboard that are drawing me into doing this trade, what are some of the other benefits of the Epic?
Thanks
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You really gotta try it out first. Biggest thing for me is the Camera is way better on the Epic. Panoramic pictures are very neat you have to try it.
I have both the Evo and Epic, and they are both great, the Evo has so much more hacking done to it then the Epic, but i'm sure that will change soon.
I didn't really like the Epic at first, I missed my evo the first two days I turned on the Epic.. I thought i'd fire the Evo back up... but the Epic has really Grown on me. I found a battery tweak that gives me better battery life then the EVO. I'm not looking back.
Like everyone else, I too believe the Epic to be a much faster device overall. Of course, you listed that as a pro as well as the screen.
So beyond that, the camera is also much better. I've been seeing photos of higher quality overall. My EVO photos come out over saturated and the detail isn't as good. However, I find that my EVO performs better indoors as far as sharpness is concerned.
The Epic is also able to play 720p MKV\divx files out of the box without converting them. This is great for me, as I hate having to convert movies for the EVO. They look absolutely gorgeous on the Epic's 4" Super AMOLED screen. The EVO's GPU can not handle high quality movies.
Gaming is a much more enjoyable experience on the Epic. 3D games and graphically intense apps will run at a much higher framerate on the Epic. The EVO's GPU is NOT futureproof at all, as it uses the same processor that HTC has been putting in phones since the Nexus One. If you're concerned at all about 3D games coming out in the future, you're better off with an Epic.
The keyboard also makes for a pretty great gaming experience. Be advised that it is NOT as fast as swype when it comes to texting and emails. The keyboard is spaced kinda oddly which makes typing a bit difficult. But overall I like it. I use it all the time. Also, if your screen is off, you can turn it on AND unlock the phone by opening the keyboard. This saves you from trying to hit that button and then swyping to unlock
I find that voice quality is also better on the Epic. I used to complain about this on the EVO. I had trouble hearing people. However, people also complain that the Epic picks up a lot of background noise. I dont use my phone much when driving but I imagine it would be annoying.
The Epic connects to 4G much faster, and I'm getting better speeds. However, the 3G connection is shoddy at best. You won't see ANYONE praising the Epic's 3G speeds over the EVO.
For me there isn't much to consider. I never use my EVO anymore because there is nothing it can do that my Epic can't... but there is plenty my Epic can do that my EVO can not. But the things that the Epic can do aren't a priority for everyone.
One last thing to consider. HTC has done a great job at getting out updates and fixes for the EVO. Samsung hasn't really done jack for any version of the Galaxy S phones out... including fixing the GPS and 3G issues on the Epic. 2.2 is probably a long ways away... but honestly, I don't think we need it. I only want 2.2 because it apparently fixes the headphone jack for the dock.
Thanks everyone this has helped me confirm my decision to go through with the trade and will be a proud Epic owner by 6 tonight.
Okay so here is my idea I am due for an upgrade february first so I was thinking maybe I would get the evo just to see what it's like an see you all the hype is about... and if it doesn't live up to my expectations I will just do the sprint 30 day trading thing and end up with an evo shift. I will be able to side by side both devices since my wife just got the shift on the seventh.
good idea?
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my pre was ready to go and i got the evo because it's what was out at the time. got sick of the virtual keyboard, hated it on my iphone and i think i'll always hate virtual keyboards.
the shift is faster with a great keyboard and much better battery life. and $50 cheaper. that's enough for me.
I will probably end up coming back to the shift but I just want to try out a new you gonna have it for a little while to see if it will suit my needs cuz I don't really need the hard keyboard. and also I have rom add so I wanna try out the 50,000,000,000 there are ready for the evo...
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I am looking to upgrade soon from my Hero and am contemplating the same thing, EVO OG or the Shift. I have seen a few comments about the shift being faster, is that just a placebo because it is new? I thought the OG EVO had a faster clock sped than the new shift (why it gets better battery life).
I have both an Evo and Shift. Stock, the Shift in benchmarks, even with being an 800Mhz cpu, benches quite a bit faster across the board.
Cam seems better on the Shift, esp. anyplace indoors where you need flash. Tho the megapixel rating is only 5.1. More doesn't always mean better.
Evo does have a significantly bigger screen which is good, esp for me. I don't HAVE to wear my reading glasses. Evo has the front cam and a kickstand, and of course, the worthless HDMI port. I've never used the front cam, not once. I really don't WANT to see the folks I chat with. LOL
The reason I added the shift to "probably" replace the evo is the keyboard. I type A LOT. Messages, notes, IM's, data from conf calls, etc and it does get extremely annoying to do it with only a soft keyboard.
Sense, for the folks that like it, has landscape capability on the Shift, not so on the Evo.
Phone wise, both are superb. No odd bluetooth dropouts, I was on the phone for exactly 4 hours and 52 minutes today at work, no issues. Clarity is awesome.
Battery life so far, has been better on the shift than evo. Both seem to get the same amt of signal on both 3g and 4G in my house. Data speed tests with 3g, 4g and wifi are very close to identical. GPS seems about the same, nothing odd there.
Right now, the Evo is nand unlockable and fully rootable, the Shift probably will be and is expected, but this may matter to some folks.
The screen on the evo is flush and has been known to "peel" in the corners. Shift is recessed about 1mm, which will probably eliminate the peeling effect that bothers some folks.
The usb/charge port on the evo is on the bottom, which make it easier to hold and use while charging/syncing, but probably makes it more prone to snapping the pins. The shift is on the side, probably stop the damage occurring, but does make it more awkward to hold/use while charging.
Back cover on the evo was quite easy to remove/swap batteries, whereas the shift, attaches really well to where you think you're going to break the clips.
As you see, both have their pro's and cons. All depends on what you're looking for in a smartphone.
In the end, it'll probably be the keyboard over the screensize that will make my decision.
I currently have a HTC Hero Nand rooted, with custom Sense rom and kernal. When you use roms and kernals on your Evo how does it do? Obviously nothing has been made yet for the Shift for comparison yet though. Just curious about your experiences.
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I am looking to upgrade soon from my Hero and am contemplating the same thing, EVO OG or the Shift. I have seen a few comments about the shift being faster, is that just a placebo because it is new? I thought the OG EVO had a faster clock sped than the new shift (why it gets better battery life).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI8vG6wT8g&feature=youtube_gdata_player somewhere in the middle of that video is a quadrant test with both of the phones their stock conditions. With rooting in overclocking the shift just goes even farther ahead. I've heard of G2. (which is basically the same phone is the shift) overclocked 2 1800 and a quadrant score of over 3000, so no question the shift is and will be faster. it's just a question of whether or not there will be as much of a development following IMO.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI8vG6wT8g&feature=youtube_gdata_player somewhere in the middle of that video is a quadrant test with both of the phones their stock conditions. With rooting in overclocking the shift just goes even farther ahead. I've heard of G2. (which is basically the same phone is the shift) overclocked 2 1800 and a quadrant score of over 3000, so no question the shift is and will be faster. it's just a question of whether or not there will be as much of a development following IMO.
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That is promising, just gotta figure out if I am going to miss not having the front camera that I have wanted for using Skype with clients for work when needed. Also Screen size.
Rom community is important to me as the Hero has a very strong development and theme community, no way to know if that will come to the shift yet though.
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That is promising, just gotta figure out if I am going to miss not having the front camera that I have wanted for using Skype with clients for work when needed. Also Screen size.
Rom community is important to me as the Hero has a very strong development and theme community, no way to know if that will come to the shift yet though.
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As if now at least, you cannot video chat skype. And hey what's up with all of us being/formerly being hero owners?
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I dunno what to say. When I went in to the sprint store to get a case for the shift, I saw they had the extended battery (unknown rating) for the regular evo. That takes care of a major problem with the old evo. Depends on what's important to you. I've had all three 4g phones. The big screen is definitely a plus for bad eyesight and watching movies. If I had to get another phone, the original evo with the extended battery is tempting. The epic was slightly quicker with games since it had a gpu and the evo was plowing through it with just a single cpu. I'm so disgruntled with samsung, I would probably go for the more screen real estate. Good luck finding a case for it with the fat battery. It certainly makes the evo have some junk in the trunk!
Haa haa! My evo has a ghetto booty! LMAO
With the Hero being 18mos old I think a lot of people are coming up on their 1 year and looking for their next phone. Similar to how a lot of initial EVO adopters were early Hero adopters, we are the crowd who got the Hero 6 months late.
The Skype video chat just went live last week on Iphone4 so I assume it will be not too long for it to be on Android, that is what happened with Skype Voice chat as well. (Although Verizon had that by itself the apk from Verizon was able to be run on other phones, it is what I use on my Hero now)
From a battery perspective, I thought the Hero battery was compatible with the Evo, and along with ROM/Kernal tweaks the Evo battery wasn't horrible. Add in a second battery and you should be pretty good.
Now it would be even better with the shift, just not sure if I want to wait the 2 months for the modding community to pick it up in full stride if it ever does.
I need to get both in my hand to compare them soon and play with them. I really want 2.2 Sense which wasn't able to be achieved on the Hero. Unlike others I really like Sense for it's integration and I don't feel it slows the system down. Nfinites Roms on the Hero with sense worked great with a Zen Kernal.
We’ve now produced a 'Mega' review of the HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy SII going head to head on all aspects of the phones. We thought you may be interested in reading the review. It starts:
Recently two new 'super phones' have been unleashed into the marketplace on the Android platform and thanks to our good friends at O2 UK we've been given the chance to produce a head-to-head review of both machines. We are of course talking dual core here and that means the Sensation from HTC and the Galaxy SII from Samsung.
Both machines are dual core with embedded graphics processors on board but they are designed in different ways with respect to the hardware and seemingly the end user market. The Sensation uses a half-shell body design and appears at first glance to be a big brother to the Desire S. The Galaxy SII is constructed from plastic and follows on from the hardware first encountered in the original Galaxy S model.
As we move through the review we'll look in turn at the differences in hardware and the custom user interfaces employed by the manufacturers, looking at the positive and negatives of each machine. The aim being not to show which is the 'best in class' machine, but to enable you to make up your own mind as to which machine would suit you as a prospective owner.
You can read the full review online here:
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
Waste of time reading that, I got the impression that reviewer lacked a neutral position in his write up or is a n00b.
Completely neutral mate and with a long standing reputation for accuracy. I've been impartially and honestly reviewing for over 10 years now.
What I printed is what I found after a lot of usage and testing.
If you disagree then please post your findings and let the discussions commence.
That is a super big review... Great work
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Completely neutral mate and with a long standing reputation for accuracy. I've been impartially and honestly reviewing for over 10 years now.
What I printed is what I found after a lot of usage and testing.
If you disagree then please post your findings and let the discussions commence.
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I've compared the photos from both phones on a screen at full resolution and I cannot agree with what you're saying about the sensation producing the more natural colours and true photo. In my experience the Galaxy S produces the more honest picture of the subjects in the photo and with better quality. I also found the battery life to be the exact opposite of what you've published with my workmate not being able to leave his charger for his Sensation at home as the device cannot last a workday without needing to be recharged whilst I get close to 48 hours on mine between charge and that is will fairly heavy use.
lol what a htc fanboy.. look at those pros/cons list... gtfo.
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Completely neutral mate and with a long standing reputation for accuracy. I've been impartially and honestly reviewing for over 10 years now.
What I printed is what I found after a lot of usage and testing.
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My god,
I hope reviewing isn't your day job, horrendous taste and ability to perceive reality.
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Waste of time reading that, I got the impression that reviewer lacked a neutral position in his write up or is a n00b.
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Also, considering how late this review is out compared to others, none of real world pros and cons of both devices as reported by users seems to be taken in to account or explored. And the "cons" for the SGS2? Battery cover, long pressing the menu key to search, and some applications force close? A bit of a reach, no? And in spite of all the issues users are reporting on the Sensation forum, the cons are a locked boot loader and lack of NAND? I applaud the amount of detail and work that went in to the review by the creator but in spite of the statement of being unbiased its imbedded in the editorial.
I'm not sure how you came up with "dismal battery life" for the SGII. I have the phone and the battery is solid. I get an average of 16 hours of battery life, with around 30% to spare when I plug it in. This is with 4 exchange e-mail accounts on push, texting and checking e-mail throughout the day, etc.
Also, all of the other photo comparisons I have seen show the GSII to be the better shooter. Phonearena gave the Sensation poor marks on the camera. It seems to be a mixed bag for that phone, but I consistently see high marks for the GSII camera in every review I read.
Given your results on both camera and battery life, I would have to question your testing methodology. You also claimed both phones were fast web browsers, but videos on Phonedog clearly showed the Sensation lagging and stuttering during web browsing, where the GSII was completely smooth.
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He had a HTC phone thats were the 3rd phone came from in the pics. mybee not as bias as already knew his way around htc sence. so sgs made nosence. It has a few things u forgot to even commit on.
Sgs is for power users and htc is for those who just whant a phone.
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diehard2222 said:
lol what a htc fanboy.. look at those pros/cons list... gtfo.
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Yeah seems to have a pretty obvious htc tilt with too many subjective conclusions.
Also not very thorough with his review. On a cursory flip-through I found the following errors:
1. Call answer screen of SGSII also shows the latest FB update of the caller if social hub is activated.
2. Camera: Metering :OP suggests SGSII does only centre weighted metering & not matrix mode - Untrue- option available under menu.
3. Geotag: OP suggests no geotagging in SGSII: Incorrect. Geotagging option in menu. Geotag shows up just fine in picasa.
4. Alarm: SGSII has snooze settings & options for number & duration of snooze in menu.
5. Long pressing the menu bar brings up the standard Search box (Not a web only search)- I use it to routinely search and start apps so I know.
6. OP mentions 'added functionality' of the sensation browser to highlight text in browser and copy, search or share it. This 'added' functionality is added in SGSII as well.
7. A 'big' bonus appeared to be the locations app which OP says provides turn-by-turn GPS 'based on free of charge map data'. Sounded great till the next para which said one could start a '30 day trial of the Premium Navigation system and test out the turn-by-turn GPS navigation system' ?
8. The battery graph looked somewhat iffy as well. However the set could have been wonky seeing how some people seemed to have battery problems on the SGSII- I've had it once caused by a misbehaving app.. However, I'm happy my SGSII does a lot more while consuming lot less battery. (My blog link below has some battery life screenshots from the android battery graph)
9. Cons list 'some' applications on the SII force close. As OP mentions, I too have had the APMobile force close once. None of the others did. Skeptic about the 'some' bit.
This was from a quick read. There could be other inconsistencies in the review as well.
Healthy dose of salt please.
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I've compared the photos from both phones on a screen at full resolution and I cannot agree with what you're saying about the sensation producing the more natural colours and true photo. In my experience the Galaxy S produces the more honest picture of the subjects in the photo and with better quality. I also found the battery life to be the exact opposite of what you've published with my workmate not being able to leave his charger for his Sensation at home as the device cannot last a workday without needing to be recharged whilst I get close to 48 hours on mine between charge and that is will fairly heavy use.
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Ditto with the battery life.
Not much of a camera expert but viewed on a regular screen the colours seem neutral (On the phone screen it does appear a touch vivid).
Found some other errors i mentioned in my last post as well.
How is the pro of the sensation "Godly" amount of RAM at 768mb and the S2 only a "good" amount of RAM at 1gb? Also sense takes up a ****LOAD of RAM...
Just watched a video review online comparing the two devices lol... only thing HTC beat the S2 on was linpack score... and even then my NOT overclocked S2 got a better score than it. You could tell from the video that browsing was clearly smoother on the S2 too. Hmmm glad I bought this over the sensation tbh...
I also think this device is more likely get get special attention in the dev community. Ah well. Both good phones either way.
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Only 1 thing needs said flash addict. Unlocked bootloaders.
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tuhinz said:
Yeah seems to have a pretty obvious htc tilt with too many subjective conclusions.
Also not very thorough with his review. On a cursory flip-through I found the following errors:
1. Call answer screen of SGSII also shows the latest FB update of the caller if social hub is activated.
2. Camera: Metering :OP suggests SGSII does only centre weighted metering & not matrix mode - Untrue- option available under menu.
3. Geotag: OP suggests no geotagging in SGSII: Incorrect. Geotagging option in menu. Geotag shows up just fine in picasa.
4. Alarm: SGSII has snooze settings & options for number & duration of snooze in menu.
5. Long pressing the menu bar brings up the standard Search box (Not a web only search)- I use it to routinely search and start apps so I know.
6. OP mentions 'added functionality' of the sensation browser to highlight text in browser and copy, search or share it. This 'added' functionality is added in SGSII as well.
7. A 'big' bonus appeared to be the locations app which OP says provides turn-by-turn GPS 'based on free of charge map data'. Sounded great till the next para which said one could start a '30 day trial of the Premium Navigation system and test out the turn-by-turn GPS navigation system' ?
8. The battery graph looked somewhat iffy as well. However the set could have been wonky seeing how some people seemed to have battery problems on the SGSII- I've had it once caused by a misbehaving app.. However, I'm happy my SGSII does a lot more while consuming lot less battery. (My blog link below has some battery life screenshots from the android battery graph)
9. Cons list 'some' applications on the SII force close. As OP mentions, I too have had the APMobile force close once. None of the others did. Skeptic about the 'some' bit.
This was from a quick read. There could be other inconsistencies in the review as well.
Healthy dose of salt please.
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Woah! You read the whole thing? After I my BS radar started to tick I only skimmed it. You're a very studious bloke.
Similarly, I also get 1.5 days worth of usage ...usually have 40%+ at the end of a day so clearly something was wrong in the review (old firmware?).
And I do lose a lot of respect for a reviewer who doesn't know that long pressing the menu button emulates the search button....poor form there.
Beginning with the screen, I think you find extremely difficult to ever let yourself say that the SII has the advantage in anything. Even Engadget admits that the SAMOLED+ is a superb screen, but I find it amazing that your conclusion (last paragraph of that section) of it is that it is "grainy" and "unrealistic" whilst the HTC is concluded to be of good "clarity"...really? If that's unbiased....I would hate to see what your biased is.
I could go through each section and show you how biased you are but for simplicities sake, the amount of times you used "impressive" to describe the Sensation is quite impressive in itself. And the amount of times that the SII is odd or weird... really? Looking at the email section, I don't quite get the the unusualness of the features...wouldn't useful be a better description? Bias at its finest again.
In Camera, you again missed the ability of the SII to customise the shortcuts as the user wants. As for geo-tagging....did you even open the options? Geotagging is right there...along with the other features from blink detection, anti-shake...
Now take your conclusion to the benchmarks section...its conclusion is the the Sensation can do better later....I'm sorry you are *comparing* right? So at some point the words SII completely trashed the Sensation should be in the final paragraph to that section, no? That whole section is a justificiation that despite the Sensations low scores, its better than the Desire S (really, thats what your comparing to?) and runs smooth in day-to-day operations...How about the SII? Amazing scores, silky smooth performance noted by many reviews to be smoother than the Sensation. Bias...again. A conclusion should be Both phones are extremely smooth in most operations, with the SII having a slight edge in web browsing and also holding the crown in benchmarks.
Keyboard...you did look at settings right? And saw the XT9 word prediction option? Again, thorough review.
If you can compare additional features in one phone (locations) surely you should do likewise in the other? What about Kies Wifi allowing the SII to transfer files, stream music or control most phone functions simply from a web browser. And Vlingo voice control and Driving Mode? All passed over since this review wasn't really a comparison, it was a self-justification of how the Sensation was a better phone.
Poor "comparative" review. Even Engadget seems less biased.
Intratech said:
Woah! You read the whole thing? After I my BS radar started to tick I only skimmed it. You're a very studious bloke.
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Heh heh. Thats coz the GF slept off!
..Actually the prodigious load of BS in the review angered me into writing it just so potential buyers arent taken in by the crap. Sensation Vs SGSII is a hot topic and I expect many buyers to skim xda for pointers.
It says a lot when nobody in the Sensation forum bothered to even reply to the OP after 104 views.