Can I boot/intall Android with HSPL?
im guessing yes cause i had to HSPL my phone to run energy rom, and now im running froyo
What you mean is Android on the NAND? No, not yet.
What you can do, is to flash a custom ROM (without Android).
The Android has to be on the SDCARD!
Sorry my question was can I boot/intall Android without HSPL?
I have seen mixed opinions on installing without HSPL. The problem usually comes in when you go to make calls. People can get Android running on a completely stock HD2, but you usually need a different radio for clear audio in calls, ie no robo-voice. If you don't want to change from the stock Rom, I would still suggest running hspl and flashing a new radio. it will help to keep you from getting too angry.
Good luck.
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I like the stock ROM for the most part. In the most of custom ROMs, the start menu is the bottom which I dont like. And I have to unlock which will void warranty. I have bricked my HD2 once! So not comfortable installing HSPL and Custom ROM.
mukesh_thiru said:
I like the stock ROM for the most part. In the most of custom ROMs, the start menu is the bottom which I dont like. And I have to unlock which will void warranty. I have bricked my HD2 once! So not comfortable installing HSPL and Custom ROM.
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Many custom ROMs come in WinMo 6.5 versions (which is what you're looking for; for example the Core Cell Evo, which is a very nice ROM and supposedly compatible to Android [I guess in terms of robot voice, haven't tried it, yet] since V3; or Elegancia ROM Series, which I use myself and can therefore confirm that it solves the robot voice problem) and of course in 6.5.5 versions (which have the start button at the bottom). Therefore, a custom ROM does not necessarily mean a totally new WInMo experience.
Other than that, I see no real problem in installing HSPL on the phone. It rather prevents bricking your phone, so why not do it. And in case you have to make use of the warranty, you can always uninstall HSPL in order to "make it stock" again.
It is recommended by most devs that HSPL 2 (or 3) should be installed beforehand
traithudo said:
It is recommended by most devs that HSPL 2 (or 3) should be installed beforehand
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iam using stock 1.66 rom with 2.10 radio and no hspl , and i have no issus with nither the radio nor the speed , android ha nothing to do with hspl nor custom roms
hoss_n2 said:
iam using stock 1.66 rom with 2.10 radio and no hspl , and i have no issus with nither the radio nor the speed , android ha nothing to do with hspl nor custom roms
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Let's put it like this:
If you already have a radio of 2.08 or above and a stock ROM that does not give you the robot voice or you don't care about the robot voice, then you don't need HSPL at all (as long as you're running Android off the SD card, which you might not want anymore as soon as it's flashable to Nand, which it is not yet).
If, on the other hand, you need to flash anything in order to make it work (new Radio, custom ROM), then HSPL is either recommended (in order not to brick your phone) or absolutely necessary (because most custom ROMs won't be flashable without it).
Hope that clears it up a bit more, pls correct me if I was wrong on anything.
I running stock ROM with radio version 2.10.50.26. I tried "HyperDroid"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769026
I have robot voice.
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Let's put it like this:
If you already have a radio of 2.08 or above and a stock ROM that does not give you the robot voice or you don't care about the robot voice, then you don't need HSPL at all (as long as you're running Android off the SD card, which you might not want anymore as soon as it's flashable to Nand, which it is not yet).
If, on the other hand, you need to flash anything in order to make it work (new Radio, custom ROM), then HSPL is either recommended (in order not to brick your phone) or absolutely necessary (because most custom ROMs won't be flashable without it).
Hope that clears it up a bit more, pls correct me if I was wrong on anything.
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I am getting the robot voice, ROM version 2.13.531.1 and radio 2.10.50.26
mukesh_thiru said:
I am getting the robot voice, ROM version 2.13.531.1 and radio 2.10.50.26
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Yeah, well, then it's (like I wrote) most likely the stock ROM that's causing it. So either you learn t live with it or I strongly advise to install HSPL prior to flashing a custom ROM. And to prevent a question: No, at this point in time, there is no other workaround known to me. Like I said, live with it it or change it.
EDIT: Since you say you're uncomfortable about instaling HSPL and that you have bricked your phone once, I assume that you did not install HSPL when that happened? In the sense of you bricked your phone while trying to install a custom ROM without prior installation of HSPL? If that's the case, get some information on HSPL again, it's your friend, not your enemy It basically keeps you from bricking the phone. Of course, there always remains some risk, so whatever you do, you do it on your own risk. Don't come back here saying "You told me nothing could happen when I hae HSPL." That's not how it works
hoss_n2 said:
iam using stock 1.66 rom with 2.10 radio and no hspl , and i have no issus with nither the radio nor the speed , android ha nothing to do with hspl nor custom roms
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Don't you read my post? It is recommended, not must be. Haizzz
I installed HSPL. I was using some custom ROM. Then I decided to work on my own ROM.
When installed my ROM I bricked my phone. it had HSPL. I dont know something went wrong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761322
mukesh_thiru said:
I installed HSPL. I was using some custom ROM. Then I decided to work on my own ROM.
When installed my ROM I bricked my phone. it had HSPL. I dont know something went wrong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761322
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Just like they said in the other post, try entering the bootloader by turning off the phone, holding the "volume down" button, keep holding it, press the power on button while still holding the volume down. While in bootloader, you can flash a working ROM either from USB or from your SD card (see HSPL info for that process)... like I said, HSPL does not prevent anything from going wrong if there's an error in a ROM or whatever, it just leaves "a back door open"...
But that's kinda offtopic anyway In fact, if your aim is to get android running, I suggest one of the ROMs that are reportedly working, like Energy, Chucky, Miri (original or Elegancia), supposedly Core Cell Evo v3 etc... why cook your own when you don't wanna run WM anyway
PLEASE HELP: How to I uninstall HSPL?
tsrzealot said:
Other than that, I see no real problem in installing HSPL on the phone. It rather prevents bricking your phone, so why not do it. And in case you have to make use of the warranty, you can always uninstall HSPL in order to "make it stock" again.
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As soon as I installed HSPL on my phone, my HD2's screen would not work. How do I uninstall HSPL without having to touch the phone? Is this possible? Also, I have searched and searched for a newbie version of how to uninstall HSPL, and I cannot find anything. PLEASE HELP!
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Hello all
Looking for help for flashing from the stock spl 2.10.0 to 2.10.1 for some reason i cant get it to flash properly not even from SD card. it just stays stuck at loading... screen or it goes to the HTC bootloader screen but gets stuck at 0%. Any tips.
But if im understanding it correctly the 2.10.1 cant go on the stock spl?
Thanks for all help in advanced.
anybody have any idea when a new rom is going to be released from T-Mobile?
when you download a rom, if it comes as a .exe, your phone will see it as official, and it should load on your spl. (Assuming its a match, of course) if it comes as two files, ruu_signed.nbh and customruu.exe, then your phone sees it as a cooked rom, and you need hspl installed to load them. (you can of course then unload hspl again afterwards, by running the hspl prog again, and all should be well.)
(At least that is how it appears to me, there are several 'official' tmous roms ive seen, and some are one type, some are the other. I dont have a tmous, lol, so i cant test it propperly, but its how it seems, the exe roms will load into my kitchen, the customruu ones wont. )
just a late night theory.
well this rom is coming as a customRUU and a ruu signed.nbh.
So assuming the phone recognizes it as that way. does anybody have a 2.10.1 link for an official EXE rom not a cooked rom
try search this one.can't promise anything but it came as an exe.
RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.10.531.0_Radio_Signed_15.34.50 .07U_2.08.50.08_2_Ship.exe
I have that version installed im looking for 2.10.1 not the 2.10.0
cbig said:
I have that version installed im looking for 2.10.1 not the 2.10.0
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WHY?
My God, I don't understand why so many people, like yourself are in "dire" need of such an insignificant "update" if you could even call it that... which you can't... because it DOES NOT add anything completely outrageous or amazing that would make going through all that trouble even worth it.
This is like the 15th thread that has been started stating literally, the exact same things.
Unbelievable.
Well sorry, just im the type of person that likes to be current in software even if it does nothing.
in that case you'll be keen to flash hspl1024 as soon as you can, so that you have the latest spl protection system currently available, with the added benefit that the x.x.1 rom update will install happily. then, if you don't want hspl there permanently, remove it again. just run the hspl prog again and choose 2.08.0000.
job done, 20 minutes
cbig said:
Hello all
Looking for help for flashing from the stock spl 2.10.0 to 2.10.1 for some reason i cant get it to flash properly not even from SD card. it just stays stuck at loading... screen or it goes to the HTC bootloader screen but gets stuck at 0%. Any tips.
But if im understanding it correctly the 2.10.1 cant go on the stock spl?
Thanks for all help in advanced.
anybody have any idea when a new rom is going to be released from T-Mobile?
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Did you trying downloading the ROM in the development section?
On a side note, I currently have ROM version 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE installed. That is the same as the 2.10.1 stock ROM right? If I do flash a cooked ROM, I would like to be able to get back to this stock ROM as well.
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in that case you'll be keen to flash hspl1024 as soon as you can, so that you have the latest spl protection system currently available, with the added benefit that the x.x.1 rom update will install happily. then, if you don't want hspl there permanently, remove it again. just run the hspl prog again and choose 2.08.0000.
job done, 20 minutes
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Is it possible to change spl without messing up the currently installed ROM? In theory, that sounds like a solution though.
sure.installing and removing hspl has no effect on the current rom. no hard reset or anything.
I read on another thread how to uninstall HPSL from your HD2 is the process for the non t-mobile branded phone the same as the one for T-mobile. The reason I ask this is my phone has some really bad dead pixels and I still am within my return period and I'm going to swap the phone out. I don't want dumb customer service thinking flashing caused the dead pixels. Wish there was a way to fix the pixels i've did some searches nothing really worked. Thanks point me in the direction how to remove HPSL.
reflash stock rom
flash any of the tmous stock roms over usb, then run hspl1024 and choose 2.08.0000
Ok recently I flashed the version 2.10.1 *No Stock SPL!!! to get my phone back working like it was from t-mobile so I need a different stock rom with an SPL correct you stated. Flash a stock rom then run hspl1024 and choose 2.08.0000 what is 2.08.0000 the radio or rom, because I don't see that version on the thread with the stock roms. I just need a little more clarity before doing it thanks.
Ok I think I understand what you're saying now I'm going to try to get it done and let you know what happens thanks appreciate it.
nigafied45 said:
Ok recently I flashed the version 2.10.1 *No Stock SPL!!! to get my phone back working like it was from t-mobile so I need a different stock rom with an SPL correct you stated. Flash a stock rom then run hspl1024 and choose 2.08.0000 what is 2.08.0000 the radio or rom, because I don't see that version on the thread with the stock roms. I just need a little more clarity before doing it thanks.
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Ok I think I understand what you're saying now I'm going to try to get it done and let you know what happens thanks appreciate it.
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basically you no longer need to find a stock rom with a stock spl, , , hspl1024 now includes the stock spl as well as the hspl. when you run hspl1024, there's a dropdown list. If you pick one that ends 0000 then it will flash a stock spl to your phone. If it ends hspl, then it flashes hspl to your phone. easy.
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basically you no longer need to find a stock rom with a stock spl, , , hspl1024 now includes the stock spl as well as the hspl. when you run hspl1024, there's a dropdown list. If you pick one that ends 0000 then it will flash a stock spl to your phone. If it ends hspl, then it flashes hspl to your phone. easy.
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sam - thanks for you info and help, lots of people are asking and you have been very clear in how to flash custom roms after flashing the 2.13 rom. Do you know of work being done on the latest htc spl to Hspl? - so that flashing an old rom will again not be needed?
side question - does the spl have anything to do with performance or battery life? I'm on my 3rd day of this battery charge, I rarely have made it to the 2nd day before.
Since my HTC HD2 from Tmobile the SPL is 2.1
Is it possible to use a cooked rom without HSPL? Or is there another HSPL 2.1 hack.
Also, I searched the forum on downgrading it, which involves microsd. I'm not sure how to do it, anyone care to explain it to me? Thanks ^^
As long as you have one of these SPLs currently on the device - SPL 1.42.0000, SPL 1.62.0000, SPL 1.66.0000, SPL 2.07.0000, SPL 2.08.0000, SPL 2.10.000 you can flash HSPL3.
And you should always have hspl when flashing cooked ROMs
Dude I'm pretty sure there is no spl 2.1....
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It's actually a 2.10.000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6891358&postcount=1893
So I download HSPL3 and do it? Edit: For installing HSPL3, do I have to enter the tri color screen than do it or no? And also, is HSPL3 compatible with TMOBILE?
Also, how do I find out of it's a LEO512 or LEO1024? Like how does it know the HSPL is compatible with me HTC HD2 Tmoible? I know the SPL is 2.10.000
But I read that there is 3 different kind of Leo. So I dont know if it will be compatible
Edit: Let's say I bricked it, how would I enter boot loader?
Bump. need help ASAP ><
To confirm the instruction
1. Run HSPL3 (Do I have to be in the tri color screen in order to install it?)
2. Run the rom I want using CUSTOMRUU (It's a Miri HD2 WM6.5.X (23133) V18) (Do I have to be in the tri color screen? Or can I just plug in the phone and run the custom RUU?
3. After I flashed it, and I want to install Android on it, do I have to do anything about radio version or no? < I am asking this because on my current build, I hear robot voices... After I install the V18 everything should be fine and I don't have to worry about the radio right? Thanks again ^^
Bump! I really need help >< I really want Android on this phone and I keep hearing robot voice when calling..
I don't use the Miri ROM but I would search his thread for all instances of "Android" and see what other users are doing. Sorry I couldn't help more.
Dude... so there's a post in this section, actually one of the first ones in the area... stickyed close to the top (4th thread actually), that talks about EVERYTHING you just asked... and it's specificly for our 1024LEO (T-Mobile HD2)
give it a glance... it also provides the links to HSPL3 and instructions on how to install it.
I ran though this the 2nd day I had my T-Mobile HD2, first phone I've EVER customized, and it's all really straight forward & easy.... just be sure to RTFM
Also, as a bit of help....
when installing a ROM, the RUU will reboot the phone into the Tri-Color to perform the flash... however, if it's the first time the phone has been plugged into the computer while at the TRI-Color... the flash process will time out before the computer finishes installing the drivers required to see the device.... so I suggest going to the TRI-Color manually and pluging the phone into the computer... let the computer install the drivers (when finished, you will see the words change from SERIAL to USB in the white area of the Tri-Color screen) then run the ROM install. The RUU can be run both from the OS and from the Tri-Color
Oh, thanks!
Last question. Currently I have a official ROM from HTC, and when I boot up android, everything works fine except that when I make call I hear a robot voice.
Will flashing to custom rom fix this problem? Or do I have to update the radio? :|
nitrogen618 said:
Oh, thanks!
Last question. Currently I have a official ROM from HTC, and when I boot up android, everything works fine except that when I make call I hear a robot voice.
Will flashing to custom rom fix this problem? Or do I have to update the radio? :|
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Official T-Mobile ROM? it's possible... both my Fiancee and I have the HD2, I flashed to the Energy ROM, and she used a kitchen and made a custom version of the T-Mobile ROM... when running Android mine works fine on voice, she however gets the robot...
we both flashed to the radio to Leo_Radio_2.12.50.02_2
I recall seeing something about formatting the SD card and trying again to fix the robot voice issue... but I would suggest doing some searches in the HD2 Android Development section first (found in the "other" HD2 section )... I know a lot of people were reporting that issue, so I'm sure someone has "The Fix" for it.
last bit... remember to ALWAYS check if a ROM is TMOUS supported before you flash... getting a ROM from this section is a safe bet (and i think a lot of the custom ROM cooks are starting to cook the Android loader in... I know the Energy ROMs have it) but when you start going to ROMs in the Android Development section made specifically for running Android you need to make sure.
Hi,
I wonder if there is a way to use Android on the HD2 without the special ROM version it needs. During a reboot my device shows:
R 2.07.51.22~2
G 15.32.50.07U
D 1.72.86526
A reset with the volume down key being pressed shows "SPL 1.66.0000".
Thank you
Hi,
that´s a fine question. My device shows the same.
Can annybody tell us something about this topic?
Thanks
You can try andriod without any rom changes, just download it, extract to SD card & run (per instructions). It should work, in general, but you'll most likely get the common issues, like "robot voice".
Try some builds & see how they work for you.
Today I tried out "HyperDroidV1.2" but i get one of the known problems!
I don´t want to change the radiorom because of my warranty.
Every thread I looked up say, that you lost the warrenty if you try HSPL and a other RadioRom.
I'm afraid to make my phone unusable.
Thanks for your answer!
Without the right Radio ROM, Android will stop booting at the "init screen" (or "init panel"?) line and the display will fade to black.
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You can try andriod without any rom changes, just download it, extract to SD card & run (per instructions). It should work, in general, but you'll most likely get the common issues, like "robot voice".
Try some builds & see how they work for you.
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Be careful!!
I tried the FroyoSense V2 on my stock HD2, and my WM locked up totally. No 3'rd part progs would run, could not install anything. The phone was more or less useless. So backup your phone before even trying to run Android.
well you need at least 2.08 radio. i have exact same stock rom, but you need to hspl and upgrade your radio.
Why are you hesitant to flash a new radio? It is super simple to do and it is reversible. If I were you I'd go to radio 2.12. You can also flash a custom WM Rom with built in android boot manager.
My understanding is that Andriod only works with the R 2.**.50.** radio. I think these are the US radios. Any .51 radio are for EUR/AUS and will not work with Android.
I have a Telstra HD2 with 2.09.51.03 and have to flash 2.10.50.08 inorder to work with Android.
I believe unless you have a TMobile HD2, it is quite safe to use any radio rom and the flashing process is very straight forward indeed.
so i have read here and there about how to put an android on my htc hd2. I decided to root my phone sometime this week and chose to follow :AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB234 CM71|bkup2sdext234 [KERNEL:AmCanAndroid r516]. While following this guide, im under the impression that my radio and stuff wont automatically be flashed or am i wrong? Or will following the guide put my phone where it needs to be? Thanks for working with a noob appreciate it
sheikubaba said:
so i have read here and there about how to put an android on my htc hd2. I decided to root my phone sometime this week and chose to follow :AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB234 CM71|bkup2sdext234 [KERNEL:AmCanAndroid r516]. While following this guide, im under the impression that my radio and stuff wont automatically be flashed or am i wrong? Or will following the guide put my phone where it needs to be? Thanks for working with a noob appreciate it
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None of the Android ROMs will automatically flash a radio on your phone.
You have to manually do that using the radio thread. The "r" in the kernel name does not mean radio, it is just the revision number of the kernel so you can keep track of version.
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and FYI, American Android is an SD only ROM, which means you can actually run it without modifying anything on your phone and keeping it completely stock, you'd just have to launch it from WinMo first.
You can flash HSPL, MAGLDR, then run it from that (which means you would not have to load up WinMo first), but it is still not ever "flashed" to your phone, it is only run off the SD card.
alright understood thank you very much, so for that build i do not need to see which version of hspl i need as it does not require one. I would check which hspl i'd need if i wanted to auto book into android itself correct? anything else to worry about besides radio and hspl that i may have over looked?
sheikubaba said:
alright understood thank you very much, so for that build i do not need to see which version of hspl i need as it does not require one. I would check which hspl i'd need if i wanted to auto book into android itself correct? anything else to worry about besides radio and hspl that i may have over looked?
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Nope,
Any questions on that ROM just ask in thread.
If you are running the latest WinMo ROM, then your radio is 12.15.50 and you are good to go, since that's the radio most custom ROM users use anyways.
your "SPL" (secondary program loader) will be stock and it does not matter. If you want to boot straight into Android from the bootloader, flash WP7, or flash Android to your internal storage, you will need to flash HSPL 2.08, which is very easy and takes a grand total of about 30 seconds.
Just check the HSPL thread in WinMo upgrades, use HSPL4 and flash version 2.08