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I'm running the stock Verizon 6.1 MR1 update with the GPS fix from here. The following GPS programs are loaded:
Fransons GPS Gate 2.6 - using the WM GPS setting to get Iguidance to work
IGuidance 4.0.2
Micosoft Live Search
Google Maps
Everything was working fine last night but this morning Live Search won't find any signals (even though I'm outside with a clear sky). Google Maps doesn't find any satellites. IGuidance satellite indicators aren't working and Franson shows a yellow icon saying "GPS data but no position" - Running OK!
Would someone please let me know if they have the MR1 update with the GPS fix from here and is getting Live Search information today. I'd like to see if Verizon has somehow "screwed" the data signal so this fix no longer works.
Thanks!
Did you try to do a soft reset on the phone? If they are blocking anything it would be the aGPS but not sure how they would single you out. Mine is still working and I am on DCD 3.2.6 with Radio ROM 3.42.50 and my GPS app is getting the aGPS info and then locking indoors.
i think that a soft reset is the GPS best friend
mine always works right off the soft reset
Yep - tried soft-resetting the phone about 7-8 times over various time of the day and still no dice.
I'm going to pair it up it back up with my I-Trek M5+ receiver when I get home and see if get locks on those programs.
Thanks!
jambrose said:
Did you try to do a soft reset on the phone? If they are blocking anything it would be the aGPS but not sure how they would single you out. Mine is still working and I am on DCD 3.2.6 with Radio ROM 3.42.50 and my GPS app is getting the aGPS info and then locking indoors.
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just tried it here in NJ and it is working just fine
You might need to change the aGPS mode back to 2 in the registry. After upgrading to the latest PRI and all the GC aGPS stuff, I wasn't getting a fix in doors as I was. So some other post said that they changed that registry setting to 2 and that just worked for me.
GPS stopped working
Verizon must have figured out a way to block the aGPS. I have two XV6800's and both are out of commision. Worked last night, but not this "mourning". I even tried to install the "uninstall" cab by GC, but it would not install. Any ideas?
I have an xv6800 in NY and I just now got a GPS lock using Live Search inside my apartment. Seems to still be working here.
O.K. It's back up now. Verizon might have had an issue in certain areas today. I'm in Ohio and didn't have GPS all day. Now it is back up and running on both phones. Phew.
Sorry, didn't get a chance to post yesterday.
Mine came back up at about 2:15 pm yesterday in Northern Va and it's been fine since.
Probably some hiccup in the network or atmosphere conditions (sunspot activity etc).
Thanks for help everyone!
I had the same problem this weekend. My GPS (google maps) died on me. This was while travelling across Kentucky and Indiana. I tried a softreset a few times. Reinstalled Google Maps. Nothing. Monday, it started working again.
I'm beginning to think that Verizon has some issues with their aGPS servers. I'm constantly having issues here in central New York with not being able to get a gps lock.
Working great for me. I have yet to have a problem or not get connected within seconds.
how do you get the agps addresses and still have DCD roms? is there a seperate cap file for the Agps servers?
Hello, just need something things cleared up, I have unlocked my phone by cooking custom rom and enabling GPS capabilities for this phone. I have spent a week or so learning how to mod different things like SPB, S2U2, icontacts, etc.... I traveled to Montreal from Toronto using the GPS pay services, $8 a month, which is reasonable, but I was wondering if it possible to use the GPS capabilities for free. I know when you go buy a GPS unit, you dont have to pay for the service, only if you want to update your maps. Is there some registry hack or software that will enable this for free. Please let me know and point me in the right direction if possible, thanks everyone.
gps free with unlimited date plan
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it
Original poster was asking whether it was free to acquire GPS through satellite rather than through a data connection.
I have an Elf so I don't know the answer, but the Vogue has a GPS chip in it so I'm assuming it can communicate with satellites. If you have the newer ROMs then it should have GPS enabled in the operating system.
guig54 said:
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it
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did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.
Thanks
Hey guys thanks alot for your replies, I think I have a better grasp on what you all are saying. So, I have enabled the GPS capabilities on my phone through the ROM. Now I have a icon in programs menu that says GPSNav. When I go to that application it gives me 2 options, 3.50 a day and 8.00 a month. From what I understand GPS on these phones are done through a data connection meaning the internet, not through locking onto an actual satellite like those dedicated GPS devices. I do have an unlimited data plan right now. So, is it because I'm running this particular program that I have to pay? Or is there another program I can either use through one time purchase or I can find on the net somewhere that I can install and get GPS for free through using my unlimited data plan (triangulation). If there is an app out there, whats the name? Thank again!
guig54 said:
did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.
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Hmm... I thought the GPS capability of these newer phones was equivalent to the functionality of using separate Bluetooth GPS receiver. Thus no need to buy the receiver anymore.
Correct me if I am wrong, because this was one of my reasons for wanting to buy a Touch Diamond or the Touch 3G.
gps without any plan
i dont know for the touch diamond or the touch 3g because the telus interface is cdma not gsm. but if you want to get an gps connection without being charged for it. its shure that if you have to open an app that charged you for using the gps its because first- that you've not flash a custom rom or simply with the new htc rom wm6.1 you can just modify your Qpst and with a little registry hack you can get a fully free of charged gps using. but you will need to install a gps sorftware that already have all the map in it. or if you have and unlimited data plan get google map and youll never be charged for using the gps chipset enabled.
For now I've almost get a gps lock with my HTC libra without any plan at all, its seeking for satellite but not able to lock on 1. im trying to get a pass trough the cellular tower to get a data unlimited to for free with cloning and some little other hack. ill see if its working.
gps and internet working without any plan.... to much
the gps connection working with a 8 second locking time and 10 gps satellite locking on. with the new rom wm6.1 from telus i've found that there is many thing that make it so funny and easy to hack and make everything working. now i've found how to make the internet connection working.
google maps working
9-10 gps satellites lock on
8 second delay for locking satellite
satellite view working because of the internet hack ..... so hot
internet
download bitrate of 1200 kbps
Now the question is how long all this will stay working.
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol
guig54 said:
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol
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I'm not fully understanding what you're saying. But... to help others out you are making them pay for it? On this site?
My initial point about the GPS chip was not to imply CDMA or GSM. It should have nothing to do with either. I'm talking about direct satellite tracking (like with a bluetooth receiver) not tracking through cellular network. Maybe someone else can enlighten us on this.
im not telling to ask other to pay for my help but for the key to acces the network without any data plan and get full free access to gps. about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
the way i've found to connect to the network is pretty easy after all but that take me so much hours to found this hack that im not gona give it to a nobody(french term)
when youre talking about direct satellite its your choice but about me im not working on that because ive no interest in that.
Now next step is to get a free access to the cellular tower and get access to make phone call without having a plan with a company
guig54 said:
about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
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My Elfin doesn't have a GPS device built in. that is why I have to use Bluetooth to connect to my separate GPS receiver. That is what most people do.
2nd day off free internet access
day 2, the internet connection still alive.
-I think that yesterday about 3hrs after i got access they try to deconnect me . Because i've been deconnected and they send me and msg that ive not permission to acces the network. but after soft-reset everything get back on and nothing else apen after that everything going good.
-Now can somebody now if its possible to make a roundup connections with cell tower. is it possible to activate the option of making the request activation after the connection begin like the 10 min registry hack activation delay for the btpan in dcd rom
sorry for my poor english im from Quebec, Canada.
mabe if something possible I'll be interested in develloping and creating a kind off ghost phone project with the help off every one who know something about that
thanks
I have an Elfin myself, so I don't know how the Vogue works...
But from what I've read, the Vogue has a built-in GPS chip. This is not to be confused with aGPS (Assisted GPS), which uses the cell towers to triangulate your position; it's not as accurate as true GPS but it gives you a good idea. I'm not sure if aGPS costs you money, I would assume it does as it needs to use the internet (Google maps uses an aGPS style positioning).
Where as true GPS uses a chip to pick up on the 24 GPS satellites or so, orbiting the earth right now. The chip is designed to get a satellite lock, and the satellites help triangulate your position to a more accurate position. Well, more satellites/cell towers = better accuracy. Therfore consider 24 satellites, or 3 or 4 cell towers. Obviously true GPS works better.
So from what I understand, you just unlock the GPS (which I believe is true GPS), then I would download Garmin XT for windows mobile and use that. You will have to download or buy the map sets, load those onto an SD card in your phone. Then you can use Garmin XT (with pre-installed maps), combined with the internal GPS chip - it should work just fine, and will not use the internet.
I have been using Garmin XT on my Elfin, with a bluetooth GPS and it works great. I have never used a data plan either.
Now, I just wonder what chip the Vogue is using for it's GPS - it must be some kind of SiRF chip... Maybe someone can tell us, then we will know the exact type of GPS it uses.
Try out Garmin XT and let us know.
hey guys..
i have an HTC Vogue..
i was wondering..
if..
Google Maps does work without having a wifi connection?
its WM default ROM..
PS.
[i live in Central America]
Has anyone noticed their built in GPS not working? I have been using Verizon's GPS ROM and Valhalla Legends GPS server for months when it suddenly stopped working on Sunday. Some XV6800 users have complained about the same thing.
So is yours working and if so where are you located?
*Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, PA appear to be down.
I hope Verizon has not turned us off permanently. Maybe it's time to purchase an external GPS receiver. AFAIK they can't limit that.
Same issue here... I was thinking maybe my phone hated me...
Tried in:
Santa Barbara, Ca
Simi Valley, Ca
I am the Portland, Oregon area and My works, but I lose signal quite a bit of late. But it cones back very fast.
I read posts on several sites - - - seems like VZW found
a way to cut the hacked GPS (valhalla) off this past weekend.
What ROM?
kilroy1stcav said:
I am the Portland, Oregon area and My works, but I lose signal quite a bit of late. But it cones back very fast.
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What ROM are you using?
Same here. I'm in Seattle and been using the 'in the wild' 6.1 update for the last few months with the valhalla update, and has suddenly stopped working. Not cool VZW.
why buy an external gps if the internal is woking?
I own a vogue is the same model as you are using, here en venezuela we dont have antenas as you use there, but my gps is working fine, wich radio are you using in your 6900? mine is 3.42.30 and there are some tweaks to improve the gps satellite lock, have you tried gpsviewer to see if its seeing the sattelites?
I guess it is out, my google maps is still "seeking GPS satellites..."
same here in st. pete, fl
I usually locked in 10 seconds 6,7 or more sats. and it just took about 2 minutes to lock onto anything and its in and out at about 4 satellites.
PGH_xv6900_user said:
Has anyone noticed their built in GPS not working? I have been using Verizon's GPS ROM and Valhalla Legends GPS server for months when it suddenly stopped working on Sunday. Some XV6800 users have complained about the same thing.
So is yours working and if so where are you located?
*Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, PA appear to be down.
I hope Verizon has not turned us off permanently. Maybe it's time to purchase an external GPS receiver. AFAIK they can't limit that.
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No problem for me but I am not using Valhalla Legends GPS server hack.
NFSFAN's 1.13 VZW ROM with the VZW 3.37.78 radio. I am not utilizing any hacks or fixes. TomTom is still working flawlessly for me. BTW I am in the Chicago area.
Tomtom
Are you using the Tomtom bluetooth gps receiver or the one built in to your phone?
jadesse said:
No problem for me but I am not using Valhalla Legends GPS server hack.
NFSFAN's 1.13 VZW ROM with the VZW 3.37.78 radio. I am not utilizing any hacks or fixes. TomTom is still working flawlessly for me. BTW I am in the Chicago area.
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GPS Mode 0
Using a registry editor I changed the GPS mode to 0 from 2. GPS is working again but I can only lock 3 or 4 satellites. Pointing accuracy is very poor and unreliable for stuff like geocaching. I've tried this outside and the result is the same.
Key to change and then soft reset.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Valhalla Legends\GPSServer\Mode =
Verizon out here in Kirkland
I'm also using Valhalla legends server on an xv6800. I just loaded the google maps program Thursday, so I thought it was related, worked for awhile then down Sunday. I guess its good to confirm it's on Verizons end, I spent too much time reloading and configuring on my end already.
PGH_xv6900_user said:
Using a registry editor I changed the GPS mode to 0 from 2. GPS is working again but I can only lock 3 or 4 satellites. Pointing accuracy is very poor and unreliable for stuff like geocaching. I've tried this outside and the result is the same.
Key to change and then soft reset.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Valhalla Legends\GPSServer\Mode =
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Seems to have worked for me too (or for at least the last 20 mins or so)... I've got a lock on 6-8 sats indoors by the window.
PGH_xv6900_user said:
Are you using the Tomtom bluetooth gps receiver or the one built in to your phone?
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No external BT receiver.
Lost GPS last weekend
How could Verizon stop us from getting GPS signals???
Mode change
I don't seem to have a mode= in the \GPSServer\
just some cached positions
PGH_xv6900_user said:
Using a registry editor I changed the GPS mode to 0 from 2. GPS is working again but I can only lock 3 or 4 satellites. Pointing accuracy is very poor and unreliable for stuff like geocaching. I've tried this outside and the result is the same.
Key to change and then soft reset.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Valhalla Legends\GPSServer\Mode =
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My mode is already set to "2" by default. (I can't read, see later post)
No GPS joy here (Eugene, Oregon).
Just paid for GpsGate to allow iGo8 to run (after a very successful trial) too...
I think they want you to change to 0 from 2
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I don't seem to have a mode= in the \GPSServer\
just some cached positions
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Are you looking in your registry or in your file structure?
I have a blackstone and it was originally on the Orange network (UK) I now have it unlocked from orange and have a T-mobile uk sim in there.
I put tomtom sat nav on and havent done much else to it.
For some reason I cant use the tomtom app as it says no gps device, any idea whats going on, or how I fix this. I follew the tom tom installation correctly but it just doesnt pick up any satellites up.
Another thing is my MMS setting are out of wack completely, any idea how I get these fixed, t mobile are unable to help as they dont sell the phone through them.
Anyone got their mms worksing through t mobile uk?
any help would be appreciated
Yes..you have find a big bug in the new rom that you have installed...i think that you have burn the GPS antenna, or the second possibility is that you have to install a new Antenna software..i've a original rom and all is perfect.!!
i havent installed another rom, its the original one that was on the phone, so i couldnt have burnt anything out. i haveng modded the phone in any way just to confirm
I'd try this for the MMS settings:
Tmobile Settings by Email
For the TomTom problem, it is just a case of TomTom not displaying any Satellites, but still getting your location (the screen changes colour and shows your location, to indicate a satellite lock) or does it never give a fix.
Not to insult as I don't know your level of experience with GPS, but try it outside on a clear (not very heavy cloud) day, leaving it stationary for several (upto five I'd say) minutes, and see if it gets a fix?
thansk for the reply,
but the t-mobile link odesnt work as my phone isnt listed there and I cant move forward without selecting one.
The tom tom screen is grey as if it doesnt have any satellites connected to it, I have tried it on a clear day and same no luck.
In the connections tab under where you can switch the bluetooth, wifi etc on, does the data connection also have to be switched on, of is the data connection for something else?
For tomtom:
Go to settings/AGPS settings and make sure it is turned off - this used to stop tomtom working for me until I updated my ROM.
In tomtom, make sure you've selected 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' and COM4 (I found the baud rate does not matter and have it set to the highest value.
thanks all working now, great.
just on a general note, what costs are incurred when we use this, is it free for people with data plans etc
digo21 said:
thanks all working now, great.
just on a general note, what costs are incurred when we use this, is it free for people with data plans etc
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GPS does not cost anything as you are receiving signals from GPS satellites. I don't think you even need a SIM in your phone to use it.
AGPS is data so will come out of your data plan if you have one.
digo21 said:
I have a blackstone and it was originally on the Orange network (UK) I now have it unlocked from orange and have a T-mobile uk sim in there.
I put tomtom sat nav on and havent done much else to it.
For some reason I cant use the tomtom app as it says no gps device, any idea whats going on, or how I fix this. I follew the tom tom installation correctly but it just doesnt pick up any satellites up.
Another thing is my MMS setting are out of wack completely, any idea how I get these fixed, t mobile are unable to help as they dont sell the phone through them.
Anyone got their mms worksing through t mobile uk?
any help would be appreciated
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Have you tic the box in the GPS tab (see in the settings) for give the permission to the O.S for taking automatically the control of signal.?
I've had my HD2 since January, using WinMo 6.5 and Android, and my GPS has never worked on either. Recently I put WP7 on my phone and the GPS started working! Then I put 6.5 back on, and the GPS was working there too (I think the setting in GPS Test or whatever was a baud rate of 56000 on com 4 or something)! Finally I come back to Android, and it doesn't work -_-
What settings do I possibly have to change to get it working? I tried changing the GPS.conf to ca.pool.ntp.org servers (Canadian), but GPS test still doesn't pick up any satellites. Any ideas?
Found my fix!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18591237&postcount=2174
Just changed the gps.conf to use the ca and north-america servers. Tried so many fixes over the year and nothing has ever worked until now. Basically thought my GPS was just defective. I don't know what's changed, but it works now