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Has just been the absolute worse, I really wish core features worked faster such as accessing the dialer and all but my phone is lagging and force closing to the high heavens.
I have Taskiller, Advanced Task Killer, And Command Tab to stop apps running in the background.
On Cyans latest stable build with a smorg theme, apps2sd, no swapper or anything beyond that.
Whenever I text it lags behind a lot and commonly disrupts my sentence by opening the fancy input selection for letters. I believe this feature is accessed by holding the space down and a letter, I'm not sure anymore though.
But my last complaint lately is that my Gmail messages haven't been sending! :[
I really like my phone I do, but I need some help or advice.
My battery life also only last 4 hours and I barley use the thing.
I tried to call Tmobile about a new battery but they said my 6 months were up and they never have given my family **** so what should I do, I post a lot at Androidcommunity.com and I've been suggested to trying to get a replacement g1.
What lie should I accumulate?
And I know to set my phone back to stock when I send it back in.
Call them and tell them it wont cut on when you woke up, then if they choose to send you a new one just brick it.
hi,well not sure on whats going on sounds like alot .have you tried to wipe and reflash the rom? how long have you been running the rom before you notice this stuff going on ?i wouldnt think the theme is messing with the rom .but you might want to try to wipe and reflash,run the rom by itself with no theme and see if you get the issues fixed or not .as for the battery call htc they should replace it.they will be able to tell you how much longer your phone is under warranty .the number is 1 888 716 3594 in u.s.a after you try all that and phone still does it i would play dumb ,call t mobile and try to get a replacment.if you have trouble with tmobile just call the htc number i gave you and see if they will replace it for ya .goodluck
Icebergxx said:
Has just been the absolute worse, I really wish core features worked faster such as accessing the dialer and all but my phone is lagging and force closing to the high heavens.
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Have you considered returning to stock?
What lie should I accumulate?
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The propensity of xda-dev users to resort to lying to get what they wish really makes me sad.
jashsu said:
Have you considered returning to stock?
The propensity of xda-dev users to resort to lying to get what they wish really makes me sad.
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Yes I have considered going back to stock, I tried once but I couldn't manage to find the right link from rc.29 to 1.5 firmware. But I decided if it was stock I really wouldn't enjoy my phone.
Don't be sad buddy, if anything be upset over T mobile selling a beta tester phone at such a high price and then not providing a decent way to upgrade to a more well rounded device.
lucky 69 said:
hi,well not sure on whats going on sounds like alot .have you tried to wipe and reflash the rom? how long have you been running the rom before you notice this stuff going on ?i wouldnt think the theme is messing with the rom .but you might want to try to wipe and reflash,run the rom by itself with no theme and see if you get the issues fixed or not .as for the battery call htc they should replace it.they will be able to tell you how much longer your phone is under warranty .the number is 1 888 716 3594 in u.s.a after you try all that and phone still does it i would play dumb ,call t mobile and try to get a replacment.if you have trouble with tmobile just call the htc number i gave you and see if they will replace it for ya .goodluck
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Yea I generally run into just about every problem you could imagine with my g1 lol but I love the device and I always manage to fix it, I re downloaded Cyans 4.0.4 and flashed it then added the x theme and it started working again, mind you I also re synced, and di a few other things here and there.
My current set up is pretty nice though and the device is running smooth and wonderfully thanks for the advice and help :]
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But I decided if it was stock I really wouldn't enjoy my phone.
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That's funny, because I didn't get the impression that you were currently enjoying your modified phone from the first post... could just be me
Don't be sad buddy, if anything be upset over T mobile selling a beta tester phone at such a high price and then not providing a decent way to upgrade to a more well rounded device.
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The only thing more painful to listen to than a bald-faced lie is the justification for it. ::gets off soapbox now::
Roms slow down over time as **** piles on the phone, <most of us don't notice cause we flash too much> just time for some good old spring cleaning
Damn, I hate cleaning. Maybe I can get david's busload of ninjas to come clean for me, this place is a mess
Hi, I made the smorg theme. The last release I did was for CM 4.0.3 not for 4.0.4. That may have something to do with your phone slowing down.
My G1 has been doing that lately. It has been really lagging. But what I did was deleted all my texts which were like 4000 ( i forgot I had so many) my call log and I also deleted apps I didnt use much and it instnatly improved.
Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
Hello,
First off welcome to Android, second, get the fire suit on for the "wrong forum" flames.
What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
Not a *ton* but there is Tether and other goodies that you can start using.
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
Yes to 1st, and there will be lost data when you unlock the bootloader.. if you unocked the bootloader, and then used the phone for a week or so, THEN flashed this addon pack, then no data loss.- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
Android Debug Bridge... its used for debugging. lol....- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
No, the Nandroid backup will be an option AFTER you unlock the BL and install Amon_RA's Recovery image..
Good luck man!!
thanks for the reply.
I'm trying to gather as much as i can before i get the phone in my hands. Maybe because i want to start right away when i get hold of the phone lol You have enlightened me on many points.
I was just wondering also,
I've read about apps such as Nexus Torch and SetCPU which require rooting. Are these apps aquired simply after I unlock + root from the market place? because i read about reinstall su and similar.
Sorry for the noobiness, as i've mentioned im a android beginner and not too familiar with the terms used.
I just want to install some cool apps and convert those iphone users......(my gf )
No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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I'm doing the same thing as this guy. I'm super hardcore about customization so I have no doubt that I'll root my phone eventually but not quite yet. Things are still a bit too new and right now there really aren't that many reasons to root (outside of tethering support IMO). If you can live without tethering for a month, then you should wait to root.
welcome
addon packs do a few things to your phone. the biggest things, i think, are the busybox and the dropbear installations, and the tethering apps. some modders also like to "optimize" android too. whether or not it actually works, i can't personally tell, but i take their word for it.
busybox will allow you to run some common linux commands on your android (with a terminal app i guess...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox
dropbear is an ssh server so that you can access the command line (and push files to your android) from your computer
tethering means share your cell connection with a computer to give your computer internet. i've used it in many airports, and it's sweet.
like the other dude said, the initial root will require a data wipe, but not the addons. i'm not sure if it's true for EVERY rom (i think it is) but when you first install a whole rom a wipe is required, but when upgrading to a newer version of the same rom no wipe is required. if you like to keep your sms and mms's then it's good to have some of these linux tools so you can move and replace the sms and mms databases manually.
adb is android debugging bridge. it's a part of the android sdk (software development kit) that google gives out for free and is meant to develop apps. with it you can plug your phone into your comp via USB and run all sorts of commands on it from your computer. droidexplorer is basically a GUI for the adb commands, so with ADB you can do all that droidexplorer can do. http://de.codeplex.com/
nandroid is kind of like "system restore" for android. you need to root the phone, then flash Amon_RA's recovery thingy (in one of the threads). once you're in recovery, you can create a nandroid backup (kind of like an image of your current android phone) that you can restore later. then restoring it is as simple as going back into recovery and clicking "restore".
m00moo said:
Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
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wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
If I buy an app (I'm thinking of the Exchange Calendar sync app) and then end up rooting and installing another ROM (say the EU ROM if it has multitouch) will I be able to get my purchased apps working again - or do you have to rebuy them?
If you buy an app it'll always show as purchased on the marketplace so you can redownload it - all the ones I bought on my G1 were still available when I setup the N1 for example.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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Wait to root. Right now it's still too unknown on the "ins and outs" of this phone. When I first started rooting on my G1 and MyTouch I wiped a lot while learning things about it. Research while you wait. An OTA is supposed to come out to fix some bugs, and nobody has released any ROMs anyways. And on paid apps, Google Checkout keeps a record of what you purchase, no matter how many times you wipe Market will always have them listed in the "Downloads" Tab as "Purchased" to re-download at no charge.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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that happened to me. i think it has to do with the fact that i rooted and turned on my phone before i even put my simcard in. i opened the market and couldn't see "top paid apps" (though i could still search for apps and paid ones would show up). after i turned it off, then put my sim card in and turned it back on, no dice, still no top paid apps.
i reflashed nexusone-superboot-1.1.img with my sim card in this time (can't remember if i wiped. i think it required a wipe) and i turned it on with my sim and voila. paid apps. so it's definitely fixable if you run into that problem.
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
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I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
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I use SetCPU to underclock the device in sleep mode.
I also underclock when I am not going to be using it for long periods.
Saves battery life.
true true, didnt think of it like that. most people want to overclock, i shouldnt assume. you know what happens when you assume lol.
It is a bit of a travesty to do it to this device. Its like putting a Beetle engine in a Porsche.
I can't always be near a charger, and until I can get a bigger battery that will give me more than seven hours, this is the solution.
this being my first android device i have spent hours on end on theses boards and on wiki's learning as much as i can about the phone and the platform... many of these basic questions that he asked i also had not 24 hours ago haha...
that being said, i think a lot of people are moving over to android so what if a thread got started that would answer basic questions that typically ever new user is going to have? ive yet to find a straight forward answer for half of the crap i have tried to find out and having it all in 1 place would be quite beneficial for people switching over... this could be moderated highly to keep it clean and in order?
a nice, straightforward, helpful community would be a nice touch to overtake some iphone shares
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
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I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
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Sorry I am not really from Hong Kong lol I'm in fact from UK and Chinese. My Phone will be arriving early next week so whilst waiting, I am trying to learn as much as possible in case i damage my phone being a noob. lol
I agree with JHaste, i think due to the N1 and the upcoming HTC andoird devices. Alot of people will be moving over to Android in the coming 2-3 months. The questions i asked will be asked over and over and some kind of wiki,faq or android bible will be great. If anybody had the time and knowledge of basic rooting, unlocking and flashing could do such a thing it will be greatly appreciated
m00moo said:
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
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i think cyanogen's mod includes a backup app (titanium backup or somethin)...you'd be able to save all your data before you wiped it clean (but then you'd need the same backup app to restore it)
and i'm not sure i'm keeping it.
Crashes/locks up once a day. Pulling the battery is the only cure.
Opera crashed and I had to delete and re-install twice.
It looks glorious. The screen and animation is really amazing.
But the functionality is getting to me. I screen lock, and somehow hear clicking in my pocket. The browsing is tedious. Facebook app sucks. No "like" option. Trying to read replies to status updates is terrible.
Mail is not how I like it. Can I delete a bunch of messages at once? I can't see how...
If I return it, I have no idea what I would get...N1? BB Bold 9700?
My iPhone 2G was slow, with no VV, GPS, or 3G but I miss it.
I REALLY wanna like this phone. I kinda do... But I only have 5 days left to decide if I'm sticking with it.
Disclaimer: this is my 1st WinMo phone. I have no idea how to fix stuff or mod it to my liking. XDA forums seem way over my head.
Joe
i was almost on the same boat as you until i found some nice replacements apps and mods from the open market. if your phone begins to lag be sure to check your task manager. secondly, download a maintenance app called "free ram" from the open market. i use both daily. i also reboot my phone at least once a day to prevent lag. (basically every morning). i thought this was normal for all smartphone users.
also, download the facebook replacement app from the open market. it'll update your current facebook app to view and make replies.
secondly, do the same for google from the open market. it will add pinch to zoom features as well as google buzz. the latest update i believe is version 4.0 or higher.
hope some of this helps..
Also, you can disable HTC Sense in the homescreen. I just did it and my phone is beginning to make me very happy. This thing is blazing fast now.
i would recommend getting a custom ROM, but if you're using the T-Mobile US 1024 version be careful. i have never experinced lock-ups whatsoever for the last 3 months ive been using my phone
Am I the only one here? My HD2 NEVER crashed, hanged locked... got it from more than one month and it works perfectly and I use it for work, internet, games, mail, sms, mms and other stuff...
I'm starting to think that all people around here that start crying saying the HD2 is buggy maybe are a bunch on "LUSERS" that cry to their system administrator at work because "my computer is broken"...
bah...
never had a single problem with my wonderfull HTC HD2
appoggio said:
Am I the only one here? My HD2 NEVER crashed, hanged locked... got it from more than one month and it works perfectly and I use it for work, internet, games, mail, sms, mms and other stuff...
I'm starting to think that all people around here that start crying saying the HD2 is buggy maybe are a bunch on "LUSERS" that cry to their system administrator at work because "my computer is broken"...
bah...
never had a single problem with my wonderfull HTC HD2
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good for you.
appoggio said:
Am I the only one here? My HD2 NEVER crashed, hanged locked... got it from more than one month and it works perfectly and I use it for work, internet, games, mail, sms, mms and other stuff...
I'm starting to think that all people around here that start crying saying the HD2 is buggy maybe are a bunch on "LUSERS" that cry to their system administrator at work because "my computer is broken"...
bah...
never had a single problem with my wonderfull HTC HD2
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Way to engender community spirit LOL. MMV, milage may vary. The phone has been out for about 6 months now (except TMobile US), multiple production runs, with various stock and custom ROMS and versions of software running on them. Users range from people who have used and tweaked Windows Mobile devices for years to ex iPhone Users to those who have never needed to do more than insert a SIM card. With great power comes great responsibility and these devices have great power. Some people report no problems, some people report great problems, but some people use it as a telephone, others use it as a laptop replacement. As a member of this community I like to think that I help support users with less experience than myself. Yes, it can get frustrating sometimes when people don't RTFM or search the forum's before posting. It's frustrating when you see someone slagging off HTC and the HD2 because they didn't bother looking at the specifications or read reviews before buying. It is also obvious however that 6 months ago the original HD2 was buggy but successive ROMS and hotfixes have resolved most of the issues (again, milage may vary). Unfortunately those users who bought the device with contracts and are locked into their service providers cannot always get access to the latest stock ROMS so are forced to use custom ROMS (which can be daunting to some people) or put up with the issues.
Good luck to those who have never had a problem with their phone. For those of you that do have issues, I am sure that members of this forum will continue to try and help respond to any questions you have. Just please read your manual and search the forum before posting, mention your ROM version and remember that this forum is made up of many cultures and humour does not always translate. What might seem like funny to one person mighty appeare arrogant and aggressive to others (again, milage may vary).
I thought this was going to be a short post when I started, sorry.
I have seen many problems listed here as I started coming down here (from Rhodium and Wizard forums) BEFORE I got my device. While I was waiting for it to delivered I had already downloaded custom rom, hot fixes, spl, etc. I am OCD and have RFD (rom flashing disorder), so I wanted to be prepared. People really should be better consumers and read.....lots.
appoggio said:
Am I the only one here? My HD2 NEVER crashed, hanged locked... got it from more than one month and it works perfectly and I use it for work, internet, games, mail, sms, mms and other stuff...
I'm starting to think that all people around here that start crying saying the HD2 is buggy maybe are a bunch on "LUSERS" that cry to their system administrator at work because "my computer is broken"...
bah...
never had a single problem with my wonderfull HTC HD2
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Me too, had it since November. Absolutely love it.
Thanks for the advice. I use the task manager every couple of hours to close out programs. listen, I wanna love it. I really do. But the freezes and slow downs are frustrating.
Yes, I'm an iPhone user, but I'm not helpless. I just don't know anything, yet, about Windows Mobile. The HD2 hardware and HTC Sense attracted me to this phone.
Open Market? Is that different from the MARKETPLACE on my phone?
As far as deleting all mail, this is the 2nd instance where there were other options below the screen when selecting MENU. I just didn't scroll down...rookie mistake.
Thanks again. I'll keep at it with your suggestions.
Much appreciation for the constructive help here.
jdzialak said:
Thanks for the advice. I use the task manager every couple of hours to close out programs. listen, I wanna love it. I really do. But the freezes and slow downs are frustrating.
Yes, I'm an iPhone user, but I'm not helpless. I just don't know anything, yet, about Windows Mobile. The HD2 hardware and HTC Sense attracted me to this phone.
Open Market? Is that different from the MARKETPLACE on my phone?
As far as deleting all mail, this is the 2nd instance where there were other options below the screen when selecting MENU. I just didn't scroll down...rookie mistake.
Thanks again. I'll keep at it with your suggestions.
Much appreciation for the constructive help here.
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Hi, Open Market is indeed different from Marketplace. It's an app (OMarket) for the http://www.freewarepocketpc.net site.
Regards.
If you can't get along with your HD2, get an HTC Desire (Nexus One). Almost the same as the HD2 hardware-wise, but much better software.
You get lots of *good* apps, like on your iPhone and you won't get all the lock ups and bugs.
(I know, there are lots of apps for WM as ell, but as has been said, they mostly suck, when compared to their iPhone/Android counterparts).
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and i'm not sure i'm keeping it.
Crashes/locks up once a day. Pulling the battery is the only cure.
Opera crashed and I had to delete and re-install twice.
It looks glorious. The screen and animation is really amazing.
But the functionality is getting to me. I screen lock, and somehow hear clicking in my pocket. The browsing is tedious. Facebook app sucks. No "like" option. Trying to read replies to status updates is terrible.
Mail is not how I like it. Can I delete a bunch of messages at once? I can't see how...
If I return it, I have no idea what I would get...N1? BB Bold 9700?
My iPhone 2G was slow, with no VV, GPS, or 3G but I miss it.
I REALLY wanna like this phone. I kinda do... But I only have 5 days left to decide if I'm sticking with it.
Disclaimer: this is my 1st WinMo phone. I have no idea how to fix stuff or mod it to my liking. XDA forums seem way over my head.
Joe
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C:Sharp! said:
If you can't get along with your HD2, get an HTC Desire (Nexus One).
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Just in case there is any confusion, the Nexus One and HTC Desire are not the same phone. The Nexus One is apparently nearly half a milimeter thinner than the Desire Slashgear has a comparison of both devices here: http://www.slashgear.com/htc-desire-vs-google-nexus-one-2074966/.
Thanks, sorry for the question, I'm obviously new to this.
oh of course man , anything for a new guy.. heres a link to a page that describes all the roms in detail , from here im sure youll be able to make your decision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?do=process
lol thats funny! gooluck finding one bro
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Thanks, sorry for the question, I'm obviously new to this.
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we all had to do our own research and testing...you should do the same for something i like not be the same as what you like.
In reality, its not a bad question. Imagine you were going to buy a car. You go to a mega lot with literally hundreds of different cars. How do you even start to narrow down what kind of car to buy?
I chose my rom based on three factors:
1) What I perceive to be the most stable
2) What I perceive to be the most popular
3) What I perceive to have the most features stock
Which is rather odd since I chose my car on none of those factors
not trying to pick sides here but i have tried pretty much all the roms here. right now i am really happy with Energy.. doesnt lock up. only downside you might find is it doesnt have the HTC messaging but that was the main problem with a lot of roms i tried. the app kept freezing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654504
After testing server roms, I've been most happy with Energy. Never freezes up on me EVER! It looks great, and comes with everything. The HTC Messaging app is absolute garbage. I'm glad the chef removed it. I love the Windows Mobile default app
Is it my phone or does the energy rom drain the battery????
Flash roms and find the one that works best for ya.
Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
RayKinStL said:
Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Also a G1 and N1 owner. Be happy to help.
1) Wireless tethering is accomplished by myself without issue via Wireless tether app on the market. It's under the radar so to speak, but required an ad hoc connection
2) The correct lagfix is the voodoo lag fix, with the informative posts being found on the first page of this forum. Basically, Samsung used an older file system in their build, and voodoo updates it to ext4, which is alot snappier on the r/w side of things. Without it, you will encounter a slowing of your processes after a period of uptime, and usually a small freeze while the phone does things like install applications. The flip is that voodoo instructions should be read very closely, and adhered to. Failure to do so will result in phone borkage, and while always fixable, takes some time and patience to do so.
If you are unfamiliar with Odin, as I was at first, make damn sure you always use the PDA option. Failure to do so can result in terminal frustration, and possibly a close to true brick of the device.
3) There are no 2.2 ROMs yet. The Froyo OTA should hit between now and Christmas hopefully. I would like to think we will see some custom 2.2 ROMs, and maybe a CM port by the 1st. In the meanwhile there are several ROMs on this board which seem to work for the people who use them. I'm a proponent of stripping and customizing stock to suit your needs, making your ROM your own. I haven't seen enough included hacks in the available ROMs to warrant a need for them personally. We have some excellent kernels available, and some pretty slick themes and mods, which works well for me.
4) The phone has the best processor/gpu out currently. The display is fantastic, and I don't see a better device on the market currently. It does have downsides, most notably the GPS, which isn't a huge issue for me, but which also has a fix on the way, presumably to be included in the 2.2 update. I also have experienced a shortage in the Wifi reception comparative to my N1, having approx. half the range I previously enjoyed. This seems to me to be software related, so I assume it will be addressable.
If you plan to root and mod, especially if you plan to use voodoo, which I highly recommend, be careful in your reading of instructions and applications of procedures outlined in them. As great as this phone is, mistakes are costly in terms of confusion and time to correct.
Thanks for the reply. Im always impatient, and as such, have already rooted before even waiting for a first response I used the one click method though and it worked great, exactly as advertised. Root Explorer works, so I definitely am good there, and I snagged the latest build of wireless tether from the developer's page.
Now I need to get started with actually switching out the ROM. I really want all the VZ bloatware gone and Bing needs to go as well. So now I guess I have some reading to do on installing ROMs for this phone. Process seems a little more complex for this phone that it was for my N1, but that may be just because it was so long ago and I don't remember. Thanks for the response though!
I am in a similar boat I use the Droid 1 and my fascinate is at the post office waiting for me per usps tracking
I think for now I will root remove bloatware and Bing and role with that till 2.2 maybe touchwiz aswell as I hear u can save ram that way and I paid for launcher pro so might aswell use it.
Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
I just received my fascinate friday, best buy sucked me in, lol, and I have no regrets. This phone is amazing, better than my d1 and d2. I too had a lot of the same questions about the lagfix and what not and would just like to say thanks, this thread def helped me understand. Can't wait until 2.2 roms
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RayKinStL said:
Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
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I posted on replacing the stock launcher with ADW or LP, as well as a couple lists of what is safe to remove. It's easy enough. I'm mobile our I would link the threads, but the replacement of bing its also covered in a post that includes some zips that will help.
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I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
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What is LPPlus? Is it worthwhile/simple to do?
To everyone else, I am glad I was not the only other one on the fence. XDA can be a bit scary sometimes, because you don't wanna ask something dumb/"noob"ish, but at the same time, if you haven't been there since the beginning, playing catch up can be hard. I will say everyone in the Fascinate threads has been nice and really helpful so far. I am slowly working through getting my phone the way I want it. Its just a shame that Verizon has to mess up the phone with all this garbage. I dont care much for the iPhone (design or software), but the one thing they do right, which comes at the cost of being "closed", is that they can dictate the user experience right out of the box. Unfortunately a lot of people are just too timid or incapable of doing the things we do to our phones to get them "right". Its a shame too, because people base their opinions on what Android the phone company gives you rather than what it can truly be. Regardless, I appreciate everyone's help and look forward to being a part of this community. I work IT at a school, so I know my way around a PC, but I wish I just knew more about Android coding and how phones work to be a true contributor to ROMs, etc. At least I know I helped a few people by speaking up and creating this thread. Thanks again everyone!!!
Edit: Im putting this in as an edit, but I just realized that LPPlus is probably Launcher Pro Plus. Have you used ADW? Is there a difference? What do you see as its advantages over ADW?
I personally (and i think most of us here would agree) don't have a problem with anyone asking "dumb" questions, if they haven't already been answered. the main issue is that most of the new posts are either "I didn't read the instructions and F*ed up my phone", "hey i heard this crazy rumor it must be true", "Can someone explain the same thing there are already 6 other topics about" and "how can we take X from this other phone and use it on mine". your questions are understandable and asking questions before you jump in saves a lot of headaches from having to fix something you tried without understanding it. and honestly, no need to be afraid to ask anything, worst case scenario someone like me *****es at you over the internet. who cares. =)