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Hello! Me and a friend of mine just purchased the tmobile wings....i upgraded from the dash and him from the horrible SDA....well so far this is what we have done.
HTC Homescreen plugin + homescreen edit
Slide to UL (AC)
Iphone Window Theme
HTC Audiomanager
P Browser
TCPMP + Flash Video Software that allows utube among other sites -=)
Changed sliding keyboard sounds
Vtap (also allows utube, but tcpmp is the shat)
PSShtuXP
Icontacts
Pocket CM ( I don't have this anymore)
Overclocked to 247MHZ (not really sure what overclocking is, but hey most of you on here have done it, so why not)
We have both kept WM6 because it seems like Touch Flo still has editing, and i am attached to the microsoft voice sync program.
So all in all just making myself known on the forum, thanks again for turning my wing not only into a greater phone but now I want to call this isht a Tmobile Jet Wing.
I still don't understand some terms, don't know what flashing is, and wanted to know what other programs we could add to make our device function even better.
Is there a way to upgrade device storage? It seems to be my only concern. Thanks again.
Batman
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TMO WING WM6 + Upgrades
NOW MY OWN TMO JET WING
Awesome. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask ... but please be sure to look through the forums first in order to answer most of your questions.
Flashing is installing a new operating system on your phone ... so think of it like taking Windows XP off of your computer, and installing Windows VISTA on your computer.
You should run the Quick Page Pool changer to get more device storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955
Cool, i try to read as much info as possible before posting...so yeah ive read the newb's guide and all the links within...thanks i will try to pagepool again...lastime didn't work...but ill try hopefully this is a better file.
directions are sort of...or reall fuzzy for installation..so i am really confused...any other helpful links on this?
all you have to do ....
-connect your phone via activesync
-copy the EnableRapi.cab file over to your phone
-thru your phone's file explorer, find the EnableRap.cab file, and run it.
-SOFT RESET
-connect your phone to activesync again, and run the batch file for the pagepool size you want to have (4, 6, 8, etc...)
-Reset again
and voila, you should have the new pagepool settings now.
think i did it lol.....how much space should i have?
Stock memory settings were the following on my Wing
Storage
39.44
8.09
31.35
Program
43.87
32.20
11.67
duprade said:
Stock memory settings were the following on my Wing
Storage
39.44
8.09
31.35
Program
43.87
32.20
11.67
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11.6 MB free RAM after page pool fix??? that's way too low buddy. which page pool setting are u using? 4,6,or 8? but then again, is that on idle, or did you were running some other application on the background?
I remembered when i first found out about the pagepool fix, I was able to get 21 MB free ram on start up and running around 18-19 on idle. (i was running the 6 MB pool setup)
Now, i flashed my wing with Touch IT ROM v2.3 and i get 25 MB free RAM at start up and 20-22 on idle.
as I wrote on there .. those the STOCK memory settings ... meaning from a factory wing.
So obviously, you look at the stock settings, and compare them to the settings you see after running the pagepool app.
This project is about rebuilding the touch.dll coude from the original dll assembly.
Latest package:
touch.cab
For adding the "developers certificate" ( read side node on update 21/11/08 ) you can use the following tool:
Microsoft Security Configuration Manager
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Update 21/11/08:
Ive finally managed to rebuild the touch.dll from assembly and recompiled it and im able to boot the new touch.dll
Ive cleared some of the calls made to some old features implemented in the original file like the touch cube etc.
Be aware that this isnt for daily use and only for testing purposes. But I really need some input on speed and reliability because i cant test everything on my own ( i flash my device every 4 hours or so so not really long testing times ). If you are not affraid of hard resetting your device and are willing to participate in testing current work please do but dont keep me responsible for freezes etc
I have only tested it on udk R4 because its easy for me to test speed on manilla 2d and it gives me a good impression of daily usability. And because i removed almost all calls to the original cube code it wont be any good for cube lovers as and original HTC roms.
Keep in mind that all ive done now has been done during work in a few hours and although ive tried to be on the safe side i cant tell you all is working as its suppose to and I think i havent done more then remove about 20% of garbage out of it.
I know not all is as fast as its supposed to be but like i said im better safe then sorry and i dont wanna hardreset every 2 mins or so... Some good testing can be done in Manila2d like scrolling through images fast and scrolling through the bottom bar. Also ive noticed that scrolling through the normal "All programs" is still on the slow side ( still need to resolve a lot of scrolling issues... HTC has included a lot of codes for all sorts of winmo controls like listviews etc ) but if you open up the all programs in manila from the programs menu u will see what kind of speed it can work at minimum....
As for the priorities mentioned earlier in this thread im going to set both the priority256 and the priorityhigh256 at 109 ( original microsoft value that can be found at msdn ) in the cab file so we can test the touch interface as it was suppose to be set up... you can easily change these values as you like ( read earlier posts ). Setting it lower then 109 will give it an higher priority which will make the device suffer more from touch input... Setting it higher ( upto 255 ) will give the touch input less priority and will make rendering faster but can also come of the cost of reliability.
Side node:
Make sure your rom has the "Sample Privileged Developer" Certificate installed because i signed both the file as the cab with this certificate ( files need to be signed because of being system file and they dont get any trust at boot without a certificate ).
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Start 15/11/08:
Ok so because i didnt had much to do this week i started digging into the touch.dll to see if there can be some solutions to the slow scrolling/stuttering etc when touching the screen.
I already found out that the graphics stuttering mostly happens due to the fact that the touch.dll is set to real-time process priority.
WinMo uses priority values from 255 (low) to 0 (real-time).. Normally touch should be set at 109 ( according to msdn ), but because htc put so much garbage in it ( touchflo related ) and it got slow as #@% they put the priority to 0 as a default and deleted the registry entries
Using IDA i found out that those registry values are still being accessed but since they are not there the default of 0 is used.
Just create the following key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Touch
And create the following values in it
Name value (DWORD)
Priority256 255
HighPriority256 255
This will not speed up the actual scrolling but it will also not make the device freeze when pressing the screen... So scrolling seems more natural. ( especially in programs folder and file explorer )
So this is not a fix but a good start for now.
Already found out a few things looking at the code that can be dropped out so im going to try to rebuild the touch.dll from asm without most time expensive calls ( hopefully shrike will help me out on this one ).
Let me be the first to say thank you. I am not sure I did the things right, but my Polaris seems more alive than ever. I will post an exported regkey, please confirm that I've done it correctlly.
I have noticed an improvement in sliding in S2U2 and on everything that involves touching the screen. This indeed is a great step forward for Polaris.
Thanks for trying... As soon as development will progress ill create a cab file which will include the registry keys.
Big difference... great job,
I've noticed though that in icontact, when you scroll contacts, the animation has to finish so that it can accept new gesture, so i set it to 109, scrolling is still good and icontact work propertly..
Great find Rogro! Was irritating me how the graphic stutters whenever I scroll in programs and phonebook..
Just wondering though, if it was such a simple fix, why did they remove the reg key to begin with? as far as i can see, the impact on the processor speed seems really minimal..
I look forward to more of your discoveries..
Nice job! Performance is much better... but in the all programs list the icons all still flashing when scrolling, although its much less.
Thank you
Great job in all programme speed seems little better.
nice
thanx
Hey Rog,
Nice to see you're trying different things.
I looked at my HD but it didn't have the slowdown the Polaris has. But it also doesn't have the registry keys... so i added them and soft reset. Now, my HD's TFLO3D is really unresponsive and stutters... So maybe it's only for non-TF3D devices?
Thank's
It's working well in my M-Amine 2.0 Final Rom.
Here is the little Cab.
EDIT: If you install this cab or change the register by hand (Is the same) , the scrolling work well but maybe you will have problems with Igo, TomTom or destinator.
Please take that in your mind.
Thanks a lot Rogro!! It's wonderful for every application that uses touch scrolling.
Why do HTC engineers leave us alone with those awful bugs? Is it so difficult to add those 2 DWORD values?
Actually it fixes the screen response AND the All Programs scrolling in Manilla 2D
thanks for sharing rogro82.
cheers
Thanks rogro82.
It's working
BTW i've notice something,,maybe wrong.
When you scroll (very fast) in file explorer or program folder, stoping it(the scrolling) with a sigle tap it's not so easy. Or when you tap to stoping it ,then turning to another direction(up or down).
Also the icontact scrolling isn't good enough.
I use the "cbolumar" cab.
BTW i've notice something,,maybe wrong.
When you scroll (very fast) in file explorer or program folder, stoping it(the scrolling) with a sigle tap it's not so easy. Or when you tap to stoping it ,then turning to another direction(up or down).
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Thats because the scrolling is still way off in terms of speed... the only thing that happens when you change the registry settings is that it will not allow touch.dll to eat all resources and hang all other processes..
Maybe you could try to set it to 109 ( what it should be on a normal driver )..
I never use any gestures or whatever so setting it to 255 works for me for now until i can start cleaning code.
TomTom7 with these settings
Nice find. But in Tomtom7 something strange happens. I have to press the screen much harder then without these reg keys. I Use M-Amine's RTM rom.
Anyone else have this or is it just me having this bug?
ViNZ! said:
Nice find. But in Tomtom7 something strange happens. I have to press the screen much harder then without these reg keys. I Use M-Amine's RTM rom.
Anyone else have this or is it just me having this bug?
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The same bug for me with Navigon Mobile Navigator 7
kr.,
Frepke
Bug with IGO 8
The same for me , i have a lot of problems with the screen in Igo , the problem disappear after delete the register changes.
To delete this, you must go to the register and delete the new values by hand, not the touch entry but the priority entries.
Only uninstalling the cab is not valid because the driver is in use.
Thanks a lot!
It's like early Christmas!
It´s because of people like you that my Polaris is an increasingly awesome machine. Continuing like this in the near future it will teleport me from one place to the other!
Keep up the good work.
Don't ever leave us Rogro!
TT6 don't work
The screen is no usable.
I have delete all the key and now work well
ROM M-Amine 2.0 Final ITA
** Don't ask/pm me for files or where to d/l **
Since someone PM me for iGO 8 config, I just share my exp & config in case anyone find it useful.
**TTS is very sensitive to Virtual Memory. (Please noted it's not the available memory you see at Settings > memory. So you may see 90mb+ available memory there but still not able to get TTS) and resource at IGO "startup" time (but doesn't matter after it started and working).
1. Make sure the rom use the slots wisely and give you enough VM (22mb+), U should ask your cook for detail.
2. Make sure you don't have **** load of craps at startup (/Windows/startup. HKLM/init, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher, etc)
3. Make a full backup and disable unnecessary services/devices with Dotfred task manager. Personally, I don't need USSD, IPV6, Ipsec, ...etc)
4. Soft-reset maybe a good idea if you already run X1 for a long time.
5. "No Today Plugin" w/ AE Button Plus is very handy to deactivate/activate TF3D and free up some resource. There are mortscript to automate this in some thread.
My Steps:
1. optional: start BT and connect your A2DP audio system (JVC BT-1 in my case) in case you want the TTS and phone call goes to yr audio system.
2. run Igo8
3. After Igo8 is started and TTS is working. Minimize Igo8 by "End Call" button. Then start your fav music program (Core Player 1.24 in my case).
4. run Igo8 again to bring up iGO8 from minimize. And my music play (Play/pause/FF/RW) is controlled by AVRCP
My current config: X1i/a running my custom 3.2Full ML rom
iGO8: 8.3.2.90500(PNA version, the ONLY version works for both PDA contact and TTS).
Skin: Trimmed (since I don't need squared screen suppport) & modified (laneinfo_signpost.ini for bigger freeway sign post) v10 from LZF.
My sys.txt
Code:
[project]
;No need the name for the latest version
;name="igo8_pda"
;name="ui_igo8"
[folders]
app="%SDCARD%/iGO8"
[interface]
maxzoom2d=6000000
show_exit=1
mapfontscale=250
recalc_voice=0
;uncomment for PDA version
;Skin="ui_igo8"
[rawdisplay]
highres=0
[poi]
enable_pois_before_080217=1
;multipoi=1
[debug]
skip_eula=1
enable_roadshadow=1
sound_q_length=250
show_device_type=0
show_rawdisplay_info=0
enable_3D_buildings=1
enable_roadsign=1
enable_landmark_occlusion=1
show_oneway_3d=1
show_gps_pos=1
showcenter=1
show_speed_limit=1
show_icons=1
show_arrows_on_route=1
follow_gps=1
earth=1
autosave=0
[device]
type="ALIAS_XPERIA"
[tts]
;tts_buffer=65536 ; this could be important for preventing voice interruption
priority="HIGH"
Thanks for sharing this, I can do it myself but I'm sure it helps a lot of people.
However I'm concerned about the eprformance, so here are two suggestions:
1) set this
Code:
enable_3D_buildings=0
instead of enable_3D_buildings=1 , to disable 3d buildings since it's slow.
2) use speedbooster 2.0, and increase the priority of iGo8.exe . It seems to load maps and search faster and the interface drawing is smoother.
More on performance here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503250
Need some help
Hi i have install igo8 in my xperia but when i open the file it stated
Fated error
Initialization error: no voice files were found.
Can someone pls guide me Thx
guys what about german devices ? its not %SDCARD% i got SPEICHERKARTE/IGO8
is this true config ?
after this i changed, my device is starting IGO8 for the first time, but after it breaks imidiantley up.. like an error !
THE START SCREEN APPEARS AND I GOT ON THE RIGHT UNDER CORNER INIT API MSG !
somebody knows some more ? or could help me ?
Very nice iGo8 config. Thanks for that.
Btw is there any way to keep the current map zoom when locating my GPS position. I mean when I scroll and zoom, and than I want to find my current GPS position, click on the button for that, I loose my current zoom, and go to a much lower one, where I can't see the streets.
Anyone any idea?
Funshion said:
Hi i have install igo8 in my xperia but when i open the file it stated
Fated error
Initialization error: no voice files were found.
Can someone pls guide me Thx
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check in Igo/IGO8/CONTENT/LANG if you have any files in there.
jackleung said:
** Don't ask/pm me for files or where to d/l **
Since someone PM me for iGO 8 config, I just share my exp & config in case anyone find it useful.
**TTS is very sensitive to available ram (70mb+) and resource at IGO "startup" time (but doesn't matter after it started and working). Soft-reset maybe a good idea if you already run X1 for a long time. Make sure you don't have **** load of craps at startup. "No Today Plugin" w/ AE Button Plus is very handy to deactivate/activate TF3D and free 15-20mb ram.
1. optional: start BT and connect your A2DP audio system (JVC BT-1 in my case) in case you want the TTS and phone call goes to yr audio system.
2. run Igo8
3. After Igo8 is started and TTS is working. Minimize Igo8 by "End Call" button. Then start your fav music program (Core Player 1.24 in my case).
4. run Igo8 again to bring up iGO8 from minimize. And my music play (Play/pause/FF/RW) is controlled by AVRCP
My current config: X1i/a running my custom 3.2Full ML rom
iGO8: 8.3.2.80621 (PNA version), and the EXE of v8.3.2.73871 (PDA version) on the same directory just for import Outlook contacts addresses for PNA version.
Skin: Trimmed (since I don't need squared screen suppport) & modified (laneinfo_signpost.ini for bigger freeway sign post) v10 from LZF.
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Can you please tell me what you did to make the signposts bigger?
On my device (Touch pro 2) the signposts are about 3/4 of the screen and I just cannot find any solution to make them smaller!
Bright.Light said:
Can you please tell me what you did to make the signposts bigger?
On my device (Touch pro 2) the signposts are about 3/4 of the screen and I just cannot find any solution to make them smaller!
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I change to signpost_font_size=30. U can play around w/ the padding setting as well
Great post, these settings fixed things for me and gave me some ideas - thanks
Hi,
I've installed Official HTC ROM and I'm surprised that it's using 62% of memory right after a softreset.
My previous Orange ROM was starting at 40-42% and barely going up to 55%.
The main memory consumers are :
- gwes.exe : 14982 kb
- device.exe : 5938 kb
Is there a way I could free up some memory please ?
Push mail is not active
The soft I have installed that is resident is BBConnect (BBMain.exe : 538 kb)
I find it less responsive then previous 6.1 certainly due to these 62% of memory usage.
Thanks for your help and advises
sounds to me like you had the resource proxy tweak and no push internet mods done to your 6.1. i have done both of those and boot just like you did at 40-42%. so if you have upgraded to 6.5 you may have to do those mods again. if you are unaware of them, maybe you installed a clean up cab or tweaks cab that had those mods in it. i have seen such things floating around. you can find them on their own though, not a 100% sure if they'll work with 6.5. i am still on 6.1 (damn cdma). so give those two tweaks a shot
EDIT: on the following link you can find the individual cabs for the tweaks. "dynamic resource proxy" and "no push internet" are the ones you want. like i said not tested on 6.5!
http://www.sskusers.net/support/showthread.php?t=149
Opera and youtube for example are always turn on..
d3rf said:
Opera and youtube for example are always turn on..
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exactly. the no push internet will disable opera from constantly being on, and the resource tweak stop the system from dedicating ram to boot up programs faster, funny thing is that by disabling it things run faster, hah. both tweaks can free up about 30mb combined!
Disabling phone canvas and using wm default dialer will save you about 9MB.
Disabling TF3D will save you a ton of memory too...
MrGoodCat said:
EDIT: on the following link you can find the individual cabs for the tweaks. "dynamic resource proxy" and "no push internet" are the ones you want. like i said not tested on 6.5!
http://www.sskusers.net/support/showthread.php?t=149
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I can confirm that these tweaks do indeed save memory on WinMo 6.5!
Thanks a lot everyone...
what's the dynamic resource proxy? I don't mind disabling functions and programs, as long as I know what they are...
In order to have both TTS and Contact POI's working in iGO8 you're going to need two different versions of iGO8.
FIRST VERSION NEEDED: iGO8 v8.32.64029 (Nov 7 2008)
This version is designed for the PDA, and as such is able to geocode contact information. Install this version with the attached 64029sys.txt
At this point if everything is done correctly, iGO8 should boot normally BUT be VERY slow and unresponsive. This is GOOD! This is iGO8 Geocoding your contacts. Depending on the quantity of contacts with addresses you have, this could take a VERY long time. When it is done you will get a message similar to the following:
Geocoding finished with errors. 38 of 110 addresses found, 72 failed. Do you want to see the details?
At this point you could see the details of the errors, which will show you all of the addresses that are not entered into Outlook in a iGO8 palatable way. You could just ignore them and be happy with what you have (unlikely), or go back into Outlook, correct the formatting errors, and try again (and continue your suffering).
This can be VERY tedious... iGO is one picky bastard. You might even have to input the addresses into iGO as destinations, see how iGO formats the addresses, and then change the Outlook contacts to match the format iGO uses for a particular address.
I have even heard that contact need to be deleted and reentered into Outlook in the proper iGO8 fashion or you will continue to get errors for particular contacts.
SYNTAX ADVICE:
not Blvd. --> Blvd (The little "." will throw an error every time)
not Blvd --> Boulevard ("Usually" iGO dislikes abbreviations)
not N. --> N --> North (This is hit or miss)
NEVER use apt# (just give up and don't try)
NO Suite # (same as above)
If you have to have apt or suite #'s AND you want iGO to geocode, then the only way to get it both ways is to use the "OTHER" address in Outlook to place the iGO friendly address and the correct address in the "Business" or "Home" Outlook address. The ones with apt or suite # will error, but the second addresses in the "Other" address without the apt or suite # will geocode as POI's fine.
When you are done, you will be left with this little piece of GOLD... YOUR CONTACT POI's FILE ! ! !
\iGO8\save\gccache.dat
You'll want to back this file up somewhere else for safe keeping. We don't want all this hard work to go to waste.
SECOND VERSION NEEDED: iGO8_v8.3.4.102680 (Aug 13 2009)
This is the newest PNA version that does not have the ability to geopcode contact POI's, but it is able to read the gccache.dat file created by the PDA version above AND it is capable of TTS. Install this version with the attached 102680sys.txt
You will need to install this version and simply place the gccache.dat into the iGO/save folder and iGO will do the rest for you.
Now getting iGO8 to reliably run TTS is a different story. TTS requires ALOT of RAM to run. If there is not enough RAM available (~115-120mb), then it will simply refuse to play TTS voice prompts and you will be stuck with standard voice prompts. To free up a good chunk of the necessary RAM install both NOPushInternet_v2.cab and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab. To get the rest your available RAM to acceptable levels you will need to disable TF3D, run CleanRAM, and then start iGO.
Sounds complicated? Well, fortunately itsachirpthing over at PPCGeeks has created a nice little script that does just this. The original post can be found HERE. And the original thread can be found HERE. I recommend reading both these original threads. They have additional information to get iGO8 working properly on TP2.
itsachirpthing @ PPCGeeks said:
I have a custom mort script that will turn off TF3D, run CleanRam (I have custom process enabled to exit Opera and Tmail within CleanRam), then run Igo8. Once you are finished with Igo and you exit, TF3D will restart. This took some testing, but this works everytime with the high quality TTS voices. I have had no issues. I have posted the code below, this will work on your device providing that you install CleanRam to your "device" and your IGo program is listed as "\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe". These HQ TTS voice issues baffled me for months, but now they work consistently without a soft reset.
Again this code will stop TF3D, Run CleanRam, Start Igo... then when you exit iGo it will restart TF3D.
manilastate=ProcExists("manila.exe")
If (manilastate)
Kill("biotouch.exe")
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",0)
RedrawToday
endif
RunWait("\program files\htcaddicts cleanram\htcaddicts_cleanram.exe")
RunWait("\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe")
Sleep(5000)
Kill("Repllog.exe")
While ( ProcExists("igo8.exe") )
IdleTimerReset
Sleep(500)
EndWhile
If (manilastate)
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",1)
RedrawToday
Run("\windows\biotouch.exe")
endif
I have attached the script to run with mort script. I hope others can benfit as well. Good luck and enjoy!
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I have added this iGO script to the MortScript.cab posted here. You need it and CleanRAM.cab. Install both to the device, not the SD Card. Then just click on the Plain iGO Scipt icon in the Start Menu. The script will close TF3D, run CleanRAm, start iGO8, and when iGO8 is exited, it will start TF3D again
Inaddition to the above Script, you will need to install both NOPushInternet_v2.cab AND SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab
in order to free up enough RAM. But with the above script, CleanRAM, and these two cabs, you should have enough RAM to run TTS of TP2. These CAB's are attached.
The sys.txt files attached are what works for my ATT TP2. It took many hours to find the correct setting for each iGO8 version and I am providing them to make your process easier. If they don't work or you get some other error for what ever reason... I AM PROVIDING NO TECH SUPPORT. This is simply information for your use.
Good Luck!
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
PPS. Once you do get everything working in iGO 8 properly.... DO NOT MESS WITH ANYTHING ANYMORE!!! iGO8 is one finicky bastard and will throw a TTS temper tantrum (refuse to load TTS) if you do... I know ALL TOO WELL!
DONT ASK ME FOR COPIES OR WHERE TO GET THE ABOVE PROGRAMS....
BUY THEM or USE SOME CREATIVITY.... like GOOGLE!
Hi:
Thanks for the great info. I have a few questions. The Mortscript seems to run clean RAM, and disable TF3D, but then TF3D starts back up on its own. Is this normal?
Also, is the script supposed to also start iGo, or must this be done manually; script did not start iGo for me.
Thanks again!!
The script is as written above. If the location of iGO8.exe is not where the script is pointed you 'll have issues.
RunWait("\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe")
If you do not have a iGO8.exe in the above folder, you'll need to just make a second copy of application.dat in the same folder and rename it iGO8.exe. They are the same file, just different names.
Hi:
Thanks so much for your help. You were absolutely right, my .exe was in Storage Card/Program Files.
It is working well now.
Unfortunately it didn't make TTS work for me, but I have had problems with it for a LONG time, and never been able to find a fix.
Thanks anyway for everything
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Thanks so much for your help. You were absolutely right, my .exe was in Storage Card/Program Files.
It is working well now.
Unfortunately it didn't make TTS work for me, but I have had problems with it for a LONG time, and never been able to find a fix.
Thanks anyway for everything
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Were you using the above mentioned iGO versions? If not... I wouldn't know.
lokmeup said:
In order to have both TTS and Contact POI's working in iGO8 you're going to need two different versions of iGO8.
FIRST VERSION NEEDED: iGO8 v8.32.64029 (Nov 7 2008)
This version is designed for the PDA, and as such is able to geocode contact information. Install this version with the attached 64029sys.txt
At this point if everything is done correctly, iGO8 should boot normally BUT be VERY slow and unresponsive. This is GOOD! This is iGO8 Geocoding your contacts. Depending on the quantity of contacts with addresses you have, this could take a VERY long time. When it is done you will get a message similar to the following:
Geocoding finished with errors. 38 of 110 addresses found, 72 failed. Do you want to see the details?
At this point you could see the details of the errors, which will show you all of the addresses that are not entered into Outlook in a iGO8 palatable way. You could just ignore them and be happy with what you have (unlikely), or go back into Outlook, correct the formatting errors, and try again (and continue your suffering).
This can be VERY tedious... iGO is one picky bastard. You might even have to input the addresses into iGO as destinations, see how iGO formats the addresses, and then change the Outlook contacts to match the format iGO uses for a particular address.
I have even heard that contact need to be deleted and reentered into Outlook in the proper iGO8 fashion or you will continue to get errors for particular contacts.
SYNTAX ADVICE:
not Blvd. --> Blvd (The little "." will throw an error every time)
not Blvd --> Boulevard ("Usually" iGO dislikes abbreviations)
not N. --> N --> North (This is hit or miss)
NEVER use apt# (just give up and don't try)
NO Suite # (same as above)
If you have to have apt or suite #'s AND you want iGO to geocode, then the only way to get it both ways is to use the "OTHER" address in Outlook to place the iGO friendly address and the correct address in the "Business" or "Home" Outlook address. The ones with apt or suite # will error, but the second addresses in the "Other" address without the apt or suite # will geocode as POI's fine.
When you are done, you will be left with this little piece of GOLD... YOUR CONTACT POI's FILE ! ! !
\iGO8\save\gccache.dat
You'll want to back this file up somewhere else for safe keeping. We don't want all this hard work to go to waste.
SECOND VERSION NEEDED: iGO8_v8.3.4.102680 (Aug 13 2009)
This is the newest PNA version that does not have the ability to geopcode contact POI's, but it is able to read the gccache.dat file created by the PDA version above AND it is capable of TTS. Install this version with the attached 102680sys.txt
You will need to install this version and simply place the gccache.dat into the iGO/save folder and iGO will do the rest for you.
Now getting iGO8 to reliably run TTS is a different story. TTS requires ALOT of RAM to run. If there is not enough RAM available (~115-120mb), then it will simply refuse to play TTS voice prompts and you will be stuck with standard voice prompts. To get your available RAM to acceptable levels you will need to disable TF3D, run CleanRAM, and then start iGO.
Sounds complicated? Well, fortunately itsachirpthing over at PPCGeeks has created a nice little script that does just this. The original post can be found HERE. And the original thread can be found HERE. I recommend reading both these original threads. They have additional information to get iGO8 working properly on TP2.
I have added this iGO script to the MortScript.cab posted here. You need it and CleanRAM.cab. Install both to the device, not the SD Card. Then just click on the Plain iGO Scipt icon in the Start Menu. The script will close TF3D, run CleanRAm, start iGO8, and when iGO8 is exited, it will start TF3D again
The sys.txt files attached are what works for my ATT TP2. It took many hours to find the correct setting for each iGO8 version and I am providing them to make your process easier. If they don't work or you get some other error for what ever reason... I AM PROVIDING NO TECH SUPPORT. This is simply information for your use.
Good Luck!
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
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i tried this and all i have to say is ............THANKS!!!! this is the missing piece to my tilt2...i have asked around and no one seemed competent enough to know what i was talking about until now...the 64029 sys text fixed my intial boot up problem and now IGO is good to go...thanks again. God Bless
thesilentnight said:
i tried this and all i have to say is ............THANKS!!!! this is the missing piece to my tilt2...i have asked around and no one seemed competent enough to know what i was talking about until now...the 64029 sys text fixed my intial boot up problem and now IGO is good to go...thanks again. God Bless
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Your welcome. I am glad my searching, suffering, trial and error have been helpful to others. I felt it would have been a waste of effort, if only my phone was to benefit from the knowledge.
Added both NOPushInternet_v2 and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy CAB's...
Need for maximum available free RAM.
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Were you using the above mentioned iGO versions? If not... I wouldn't know.
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Hi:
Yes I am using the above mentioned Aug 13th version, but to be honest I have had this same problem since I switches to the R3 versions. Oddly enough, I only get TTS from "Amy", which isn't even a TTS voice, but her voice is limited, and doesn't include things like street names etc... When I try to use "Susan" or "Dave" which are TTS voices, they do not work at all. I have tried a million different TTS packages, as well as sys.txt edits, and still no luck.
I have searched and searched and never been able to fix it.
But anyway, thanks so much for posting your info, I am sure it will help others.
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Yes I am using the above mentioned Aug 13th version, but to be honest I have had this same problem since I switches to the R3 versions. Oddly enough, I only get TTS from "Amy", which isn't even a TTS voice, but her voice is limited, and doesn't include things like street names etc... When I try to use "Susan" or "Dave" which are TTS voices, they do not work at all. I have tried a million different TTS packages, as well as sys.txt edits, and still no luck.
I have searched and searched and never been able to fix it.
But anyway, thanks so much for posting your info, I am sure it will help others.
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I recommend reading the threads on PPCGeeks. You might need their recommended BRANDING.ZIP and DATA.ZIP files.
I know it is a pain in the ass... but it can work
but then again it can also stop working right after
Good Luck!
Lokmeup, thanks for the post. I found this by googling Igo8 and contacts... I'm running iGo8 (the most recent pna version) on my Imagio and of course it won't input the contacts.
I plan on following your directions but was wondering if I'll need to keep both versions available and run the PDA version every time I enter a new contact as the PNA version won't import contacts?
I miss the 'navigate to contact' from Tomtom but Tomtom doesn't seem to like the Imagio as it lags out while iGo8 runs fine.
Thanks in advance!
lokmeup said:
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
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Yes, It is best to keep both versions.
lokmeup said:
Yes, It is best to keep both versions.
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Thanks and DOH! Didn't see that part about the other card. The damn SD card on the Imagio is behind the back cover and the cover is a beast to remove. I'll try to keep one internal and one external and see if that works. Thanks again!
Update: iGO 8 v8.3.2.97313 (Jul 3 2009) also works for geocoding. You can have one in main memory and one on your SD card and the one in main memory will geocode for the one on the card.
Thanks again Lokmeup, you gave me back the one function iGO was missing over TT!
Not to be a nay sayer, but why in the world do you need to jump through all these hoops to get TTS to work? My TTS works fine on 102680 with Igo as installed, I'm using the Energy 6.5.1 ROM but it's worked with every ROM I've tried it on?
For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work. I have edited the mscr to disable HTC Sense before launching igo8 (and of course renenabling it upon exiting the program)
Two versions:
One that closes Sense then launches igo
The second closes sense, runs clean ram then launces igo
Personally i hate havng to confirm the cleanup, but your choice. Either one works out for me
IMPORTANT: RENAME file extention .txt -> .mscr (xda does not permit me to upoad mscr files)
marscandybars said:
For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work.
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Unless I'm really confused Energy ROM Phoenix has Sense in it, and it works fine with TTS on my phone without any scripts.
marscandybars said:
For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work. I have edited the mscr to disable HTC Sense before launching igo8 (and of course renenabling it upon exiting the program)
Two versions:
One that closes Sense then launches igo
The second closes sense, runs clean ram then launces igo
Personally i hate havng to confirm the cleanup, but your choice. Either one works out for me
IMPORTANT: RENAME file extention .txt -> .mscr (xda does not permit me to upoad mscr files)
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rename this file and just run it like the cab file I presume ??
Its working with the Sense file. I just went out and try it out. Would you be able to create a Sense file you created for igo mortcript and the htc addicts clean ram v1.8. ? I can see the other file as a shortcut in the start menu? Would you be able to create the same one for the sense version ?
Thanks.