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Still laggy even after lagfix hitting 2200 on quadrant.

Yes. Phone its some how better but it gets stock here and there. .lags make me sick. Any one knows a real fix for lag? I'm hitting 2200 plus on quadrant and all but I think that means ****. .. any one have a real solution. ...
Love for this to be like my evo running cm6. Snappy and fast. But I got to say I'm in love with galaxy. ..love the amoled. Can't ever go back to a regular screen LOL. I just want this to fly the way is suppose to man.
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i have no idea, I read some things that said these lag fixes show higher numbers, but are not actually faster. that is just what I read, I have not applied any.
but do have a question kind of related so not trying to thread jack.
I am under the impression that the lag fixes make the phone use dalvic (which is faster then how ever samsung had it set up) (i obviously dont completely understand the technical details of the lag fixes). When we get 2.2, either from samsung or developers, will it be faster because 2.2 is more optimized and using jit AND will they use what ever these lag fixes implement?
in other words, 2.2 will make the phone faster and partly due to jit, but will we still have to do these fixes to make the phone use dalvic (instead of what ever samsung did) to make it as fast as it should be, or will 2.2 make that change also?
not trying to thread jack, if this needs its own thread, please let me know and I apoligize, just though i would post as its related.

Amen to that. Hit 2200 exactly just about an got ago but there are still lag issues. I believe the JIT compiler will make all the difference. So, uh, just be prepared to get a bunch of "be patient" "just wait" posts.

kboater said:
i have no idea, I read some things that said these lag fixes show higher numbers, but are not actually faster. that is just what I read, I have not applied any.
but do have a question kind of related so not trying to thread jack.
I am under the impression that the lag fixes make the phone use dalvic (which is faster then how ever samsung had it set up) (i obviously dont completely understand the technical details of the lag fixes). When we get 2.2, either from samsung or developers, will it be faster because 2.2 is more optimized and using jit AND will they use what ever these lag fixes implement?
in other words, 2.2 will make the phone faster and partly due to jit, but will we still have to do these fixes to make the phone use dalvic (instead of what ever samsung did) to make it as fast as it should be, or will 2.2 make that change also?
not trying to thread jack, if this needs its own thread, please let me know and I apoligize, just though i would post as its related.
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can anyone comment on my question? will 2.2 be more speedy just because of the great things that make 2.2 fast (jit/optimized) or will it include what ever our current lag fixes do with an ext partition/dalvic?
so say we get 2.2 and its great, would it be even better if we do the lag fixes that we are currently doing it samsung does not already implement this change?
thanks

kboater said:
can anyone comment on my question? will 2.2 be more speedy just because of the great things that make 2.2 fast (jit/optimized) or will it include what ever our current lag fixes do with an ext partition/dalvic?
so say we get 2.2 and its great, would it be even better if we do the lag fixes that we are currently doing it samsung does not already implement this change?
thanks
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yes 2.2 it that big of a difference. Jit realy speeds up the phone. I can't wait. I still though have no lag without a lag fix. I got a n1 with froyo and the sgs is just as quick CPU wise without it.

Be patient and just wait........lol

That's because Quadrant score is biased by the "lag fix". If my understanding of the lag fix is correct, it creates and ext2 FS on top of the existing one, acting, in a sense, like a buffer. It may help you fool the quadrant score with writes and may improve a little if you are invoking the same app multiple times, but all that at the expense of losing journaling, a very important feature in a portable device.

I've noticed the same issues -- fast quadrant, still laggy -- and so I basically disregard all mentions of "quadrant" in the forums. That said, the One Click Lag Fix is still a huge improvement over stock, but not perfect.
For my phone, I've reverted back to the METHOD #1 fix mentioned in this thread -- basically moving the /data storage into RAM. While it's not perfect (mainly due to the small app storage space), it is *very* quick and remains quick. It's also relatively easy to apply using Busybox and a Terminal Emulator.
Hope that helps.

smashpunks said:
yes 2.2 it that big of a difference. Jit realy speeds up the phone. I can't wait. I still though have no lag without a lag fix. I got a n1 with froyo and the sgs is just as quick CPU wise without it.
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i realize that 2.2 is a big improvement (i had it running on mytouch). what I am asking is:
regarding the lag fixes that we do now, I am wondering if that issue will be addressed when we get 2.2? or if that it will be faster because of jit and other things, and the problems that are causing lag (not using dalvic) will still need to be addressed?

I believe Samsung need to address the lag issue with a seperate firmware update to change the file system. I just hope and pray they will do it I can only imagine how fast the phone would be with a more modern file system given its performance on RFS!

kboater said:
i have no idea, I read some things that said these lag fixes show higher numbers, but are not actually faster. that is just what I read, I have not applied any.
but do have a question kind of related so not trying to thread jack.
I am under the impression that the lag fixes make the phone use dalvic (which is faster then how ever samsung had it set up) (i obviously dont completely understand the technical details of the lag fixes). When we get 2.2, either from samsung or developers, will it be faster because 2.2 is more optimized and using jit AND will they use what ever these lag fixes implement?
in other words, 2.2 will make the phone faster and partly due to jit, but will we still have to do these fixes to make the phone use dalvic (instead of what ever samsung did) to make it as fast as it should be, or will 2.2 make that change also?
not trying to thread jack, if this needs its own thread, please let me know and I apoligize, just though i would post as its related.
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Well the differences for me is my 3G speed from 200K-400K has change to 2Mbps-4Mbps, and I am happy. Thanks to the hard work of RyanZA's One Click Lag Fix.

nguyenmd said:
Well the differences for me is my 3G speed from 200K-400K has change to 2Mbps-4Mbps, and I am happy. Thanks to the hard work of RyanZA's One Click Lag Fix.
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Wow. I was not aware that the lag fix would change data speeds THAT much. can anyone else confirm results like that?

To go or not for Galaxy S?

Hi all,
I'm torn between Desire HD and Galaxy S. Sure the SGS is older, no flash, gps bugs etc, but just had my DesireHD in my hand and it's way too big and heavy. Also review are saying poor battery life.
I don;t mind if i dont have the newest model, as SGS fits nicely in my hand, don;t care much about the flash.
Some questions:
1. Have the bugs been sorted for SGS i.e gps, lag etc with updates and custom roms here? I don't mind flashing as i have a TouchHD and i flash it often.
2. Do custom roms make it smooth and nice how it should be and based on peoples reviews here with Fixes many are happy with speed.
I know there's a lot going for SGS2 but don;t think that is coming anytime in next 6 months, which would give me plenty of tiem to accustom my self to Android from Winshite.
Cheers

CEPi said:
Hi all,
I'm torn between Desire HD and Galaxy S. Sure the SGS is older, no flash, gps bugs etc, but just had my DesireHD in my hand and it's way too big and heavy. Also review are saying poor battery life.
I don;t mind if i dont have the newest model, as SGS fits nicely in my hand, don;t care much about the flash.
Some questions:
1. Have the bugs been sorted for SGS i.e gps, lag etc with updates and custom roms here? I don't mind flashing as i have a TouchHD and i flash it often.
2. Do custom roms make it smooth and nice how it should be and based on peoples reviews here with Fixes many are happy with speed.
I know there's a lot going for SGS2 but don;t think that is coming anytime in next 6 months, which would give me plenty of tiem to accustom my self to Android from Winshite.
Cheers
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1/ yes/no its not perfect for gps, lag is fixed with custom stuff
2/as per 1/ once fixed speed and all are pretty good
in a nutshell:
- gps isnt all that good even if its been vastly improved
- phone is very fast once fixed but battery life is slightly lower (should still be much better than the DHD in that area i guess..)

HTC Desire HD has inferior GPU, camera recorder, sound quality, display, etc..
I would recommend to wait a little.. For *an official large scale* Froyo release because the current JP6 (which was official for Scandinavia) suck in terms of performance.
If you browse a lot this can be very annoying. Applied voodoo lag fix => didn't fix stalls (lag) problems (yeah wiped data/cache)
Cons Froyo:
- browser issues: high RAM/CPU consumption. sometimes the phone stalls just having the stock browser opened on background. other big problem is the HIGH memory consumption combined with even less free RAM avaiable in Froyo. Many times the browser got self closed (even when it was active, in foreground!!) and/or applications in background (even the stock launcher)
- performance of stock launcher is not good if you have some amount of apps installed (eg: slide between apps pages, helicopter view, etc.. doesn't matter if you use live wallpers or not)
- laggy swype
- lags when scrolling in call history (I think I've got >= 500 entries)
- cannot say to much about gps, yesterday was the first time I've tested it in car.. and my position was completely not accurate. it may be also the software (igo) which lags a lot on froyo (in eclair it was ok), hardly you can set your destination.. it lags in menus too.
- again, even less ram available
Android issues:
- slow code execution (apps load time)
- high memory consumption
That's because of the internal design of Android... running the apps in a JVM . Why not native apps like WebOS, Maemo?
Those are the main issues I personally found very annoying in Froyo.. If you don't browse, don't write with skype (haven't tested with samsung keyword), don't use/like touch wiz lauchen, then the phone is quite good in terms of speed.
@bilboa1 aren't you experiencing those issues? Swithcing to a FS doesn't fix the bugs in the apps..

I have had my galaxy s for a couple of months and flashed to JP6 when it was out, I used it for a few days and then flashed back to eclair due to the same issues as you mention. Not being able to have anything 'minimized' to the background while browsing due to the amount of memory being used was a no no! Anyway, I have been seriously considering the desire hd myself, but the battery capacity has so far really put me off, I barely get 8 hours of life out of my galaxy on some days, so on a hd, it would be less than that I suspect. I keep looking around xda for posts to convince me not to get a desire hd, its slowly working, but not quite yet.

these are the fixes i applied for froyo which gives a (very) satisfying performance in my eyes:
(alls files can be found in the dev section)
- flash JM8 + 512 PIT
- flash JP6 + 803 PIT
- factory reset
- reboot in recovery
- flash ULF (universal lag fix)
- enable advanced lag fix ext4
- enable all tweaks
- enable BLN (backlight notification)
- enable root
- reboot - choose backup & restore (or not, since its factory, doesnt make a big diff), wait a bit
- copy battery mod for JP6 (version D for me) to /sdcard/
- copy stock android lock screen for JP6 to /sdcard/
- copy galaxy tab browser file to /sdcard/
- adb shell
$ su
# umount -oremount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
# cd /system/apps
remove some useless samsung apps to free space
replace the battery graphics
# cp /sdcard/framework-res.apk /system/framework/framwork-res.apk
do the same for lock screen, browser file.. (paths are specified, i don't remember them by heart)
# sync
# reboot
- in browser options, set the plugins to "on demand"
- in account sync options, disable auto sync (keep background data) - this alone doubles the battery life and doesnt make a real diff
- replace touchwizz by your launcher of choice, i personally use Launcher Pro Plus
- install "vignette" if you want higher quality pictures from the camera
about the gps:
- make sure you enable the function that let it use the wireless networks (agps)
- install compass and setup the compass as indicated when you start it, then quit
- enable sensors aiding for the gps, done
- it locks (very) fast
- its pretty accurate now
- it loses all satellites from time to time then relock so u lose a few seconds of tracking (the biggest/only real issue IMO)
enjoy
ps: the difference with the DHD, except hardware differences, is probably that the DHD won't neeed nearly as much handwork to work "properly".....

Thanks bilboa1 for your informative post but unfortunately this does not fix my problems.
I like TouchWiz launcher, it's very practical (used to be TouchPro fan too before ). Actually I find Samsung software implementations more useful per-total than HTC ones (HTC Sense, yes, I've been an HTCSense user in past)
Also, I've read that the galaxy tab browser lib doesn't fix the problem with high memory consumption, so didn't bothered to overwrite the file.
Browser has already plugins on demand. It doesn't make a difference if it's off or on-demand (in my tests with high memory consumption)..
If I disable auto sync how do I get my gmail, twitter, etc automatically? I've accidentally disabled it and didn't get any mail, twitter, etc automatically.
GPS lock is fast.. but not accurate here. Maybe it was the software (iGo)

Depends if you want a phone that just works or do you like tinkering and chance of file curruption every 3 weeks. Sgs schocking battery problems once you install a lag fix. In my experience when using oclf the sgs uses 15% of power per HR at Max of 3hrs usage on 3G. If using voodoo lag fix then power drains at 20-30‰ and about 2hr's at 3G. If I was you I would wait for something better and forget the sgs ever existed. I have heard the epic 4G is a good device with non of the sgs problems but sadly it's a cdma phone. Also HTC seems to release roms more frequently and there's better support for them. Also doesn't the desire HD use 2nd Gen snapdragon? Means clock for clock they (g2 @800MHz is said to be as fast in benchmarks as 1ghz hummingbirds )are faster and also froyo is already optimized for it unlike our poor hummingbird cpus
If I could I would in a second swap my sgs for a HTC desire HD or HTC g2
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I have voodoo lagfix on eclair. My battery drains 1.3% per hour on standby with 3G/data/sync=ON and many widgets that update hourly like weather, stock, facebook, twitter.
Active use with screen on and internet surfing battery drain is about 23% per hour which is kind of normal. My Iphone 3GS/HTC Touch HD also drain around this amount during active use.
So those with huge drain, the problem lies somewhere else (not with lagfix)
Galaxy battery is not bad at all for heavy users. My phone uptime of 20 hours with 3 hours of active use + 1 hr of call+(sync/widgets etc).
Light use should last for 2 days.

Don't do it man, life's worth living!!!
Seriously though, I've tried every bloody fix out there, every last tweak for the last 3 months... And I'm selling this pos as soon as I find a good deal. Granted, sometimes it's fast, but then it crashes... Sometimes the gps works, But then it gets confused... The mic is total ****, but the screen is beautiful, so you have nice colours to look at while it randomly cracks out.
If you don't want to wait, get the dhd and a couple extra batteries. Or, for smaller hands just get a bloody iphone or one of the older desire variants.
This hardware's great, the dhd's is better... And the software works!!! Hear that samsung!? It actually works!!!... Aside from the proximity sensor...
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Thanks a lot guys. Sorry to hear that basic problems are still persisting, even thought great effort has been made by community devs to iron them. I'll hold till next generation of phones come up in Q1 2011.
Cheers and good luck

CEPi said:
Thanks a lot guys. Sorry to hear that basic problems are still persisting, even thought great effort has been made by community devs to iron them. I'll hold till next generation of phones come up in Q1 2011.
Cheers and good luck
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Only phone I'd currently recommend is the iPhone 4. The SGS is still having some issues and doesn't work right out of the box. Guess we'll have to wait for gingerbread in order to get a version of android that just works.

I'm using stock kernel, no rooting, to lagfix, with latest available Firmware
I don't have any "lag" issue,
GPS works pretty good, fast fix, not that much "jerking around" and sharktooth when recording maps.
Camera is pretty much amazing, I can't realy beleive how much "night mode" works!
HD Video recording is pretty much tha bomb!
Works pretty sweet with my BlueTooth headset (S9-HD)
Gaming is amazing, fast and cool graphs!
it runs android, so you're not "controlled" by what the all mighty-all knowing Apple
So, I would definitively buy the same thing!

I don't know what some of these guys are talking about.
1. Have the bugs been sorted for SGS i.e gps, lag etc with updates and custom roms here? I don't mind flashing as i have a TouchHD and i flash it often.
GPS has not been 'perfectly' fixed. A lot of people report different results. It has never worked well for me. Fortunately, on a personal level, I have never become over-dependent on GPS and am generally good with reading maps. I can use the GPS to get a general fix of where I am and use my eyes to figure out where to go.
Aside from GPS however - I can't think of any bugs that haven't been fixed. Almost every custom ROM includes its own lagfix, all of which work perfectly. I use darkyy's ROM and it comes with Voodoo, which is absolutely brilliant.
2. Do custom roms make it smooth and nice how it should be and based on peoples reviews here with Fixes many are happy with speed.
Well, I kinda answered this above. The lagfixes are brilliant and do exactly what Samsung should have done themselves. My phone flies now without even needing a task killer.
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I often say that I would always recommend one out of 3 phones to anyone that asks depending on how technical they are. If they are a casual user that likes the latest hardware and biggest screens - get the DHD. If they are also a casual user that perhaps would prefer a slightly smaller and more compact phone, get the Desire Z. If they are a techie and want the best of everything (minus GPSlol) - get the SGS.
You sound like a techie. Unless you absolutely need GPS, get the SGS.

jp6 deodexed, zipaligned, 327meg kernel, advanced lagfix ext4, all tweaks.....gives me insane performance! applications load up instantly, its just as quick as it can ever get! no crashes no instability
just wished samsung would give us a stock rom which is as good as this!
GPS still sucks....little laggy, and sometimes inaccurate...not totally unusable though. samsung sure screwed up on the hardware, theres no doubt about that

dreamtheater39 said:
jp6 deodexed, zipaligned, 327meg kernel, advanced lagfix ext4, all tweaks.....gives me insane performance! applications load up instantly, its just as quick as it can ever get! no crashes no instability
just wished samsung would give us a stock rom which is as good as this!
GPS still sucks....little laggy, and sometimes inaccurate...not totally unusable though. samsung sure screwed up on the hardware, theres no doubt about that
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So basically SGS doesnt work correctly out of the box.
If I pay about 500euro for a phone, I definitly expect that it works flawless.
I wanted this phone badly, but after I have read all bad comments ill pass until they fix all bugs or maybe ill wait for another better Samsung phone (I love Super AMOLED)

i would go for the dhd...i have a sgs but to be honest its a great phone but samsung doesnt provide the support for their products...2.2 and a gps fix were supposed to come in september..then october...now november...the phone is only as good as the software on it, and while the sgs is a beast in terms of processor speed and screen, it lacks the support from samsung...it does lag, gps doesnt work at all for me....

DSF said:
Browser has already plugins on demand. It doesn't make a difference if it's off or on-demand (in my tests with high memory consumption)..
If I disable auto sync how do I get my gmail, twitter, etc automatically? I've accidentally disabled it and didn't get any mail, twitter, etc automatically.
GPS lock is fast.. but not accurate here. Maybe it was the software (iGo)
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I don't really notice a very high memory usage on the browser, maybe i don't browse enough i don't know
when you disable auto sync you still get email automatically (and instantly, via push), for the rest it depends on the apps settings, in my case they all still go get stuff every couple of hours
what sync disable however is contact synchronization, account settings, calendars, and things like that (= things i rly dont need sync more than once a week or smth personally, but i can imagine some ppl need their calendar sync to the minute)
in general battery issues are due to bad software installed on the phone, stock sgs battery life is pretty much incredible in my eyes (the lag bug is also pretty much incredible p)
ps: if i were to buy sgs again i'd do it no doubt. i can understand the less technically inclined going dhd. not without its flaws but no such thing as "lag bug" crap to fix hehe

raf2k said:
So basically SGS doesnt work correctly out of the box.
If I pay about 500euro for a phone, I definitly expect that it works flawless.
I wanted this phone badly, but after I have read all bad comments ill pass until they fix all bugs or maybe ill wait for another better Samsung phone (I love Super AMOLED)
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For some reason i thought the phone id cheaper than that.
Anyway the sgs is perfect. The gps is not as bas as people say. U can still get a lock on and go whatever u want. But honestly. I never tried the gps more thsn once to check if its working and its fine for me.
However. For games. For screen. Nothing and i mean nothing csn come close to sgs. Best screen hands down. Best gpu. All u need to is add voodoo or whatever ur like and ur ready to go. I love the dhd but i am a movie. Gamesband muic junkie. For that the sgs is perfect. Dont let the 4.3 screen fool u on dhd. Its almost the samwle quality as hd2 "there are videos in youtube as a proof even "
I say get what u want but for me. I love the phone for its performance and screen. And galaxy s is perfect
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SGS still laggy compared to other low-end phones?

Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!

I've compared the Desire S with and without a custom ROM to my Galaxy S, and for some reason HTC Sense is just really fast and with custom ROM was about the same as my Galaxy S. So I guess it's just HTC Sense.

Install Cyanogenmod 7. Makes the SGS far faster than the wildfire s and makes the Samsung ROMs like JVO look prehistoric.

Insanity cm.....all is instant
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Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....

rocky23 said:
yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.

Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.

Quad-core 1Ghz, 3D Samoled+! O.O
Sorry, OT.
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CM7> AOSP > HTC Sense > Samsung TW > LG
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I have no idea what you are moaning about. No issues with the phone. Compared to my Xperia X10a and HTC HD2, this one is very nice indeed.

Ctcng said:
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
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exactly my thoughts.
I like samsung - i was also considering buying the second sgs, however decided to wait for a nice ice cream at the year end.
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
And something offtopic: the alarm bug hasnt even been officially fixed right?!!?

Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.

Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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i must say I totally agree with OP ! my sgs is also laggy. I am on f1 sgs2 rom. with galaxian kernel, with ext 4 lagfix and oc to 1.2 Ghz. but still it takes way to long, to open apps of any kind... and it just lags randomly all the time. have reinstalled several times according to instructions so dont tell me to do factory reset
I think the best gingerbread I have tried was jvh. app launch was the nearest to instant I have seen.
but I think the most lagfree experience must be froyo jp6 or jpy with speedmod kernel.
and to be honest since jp6 the browser has been a joke... :-(
its said that jvq browser is better, but only on odexed roms...
sadly I think that the support for the sgs is nearly over... and I have lost faith that samsung will free my sgs of lag :-(

oswade said:
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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Still way slower than my old nexus one running gingerbread. It runs rings around cm7 even. Everything is instant and faultless.
Op is right.
If nexus one had samoled screen and better speakers I'd be like,
what's a galaxy s?
Having said that I prefer the gs1 to nexus s.
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oswade said:
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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my bad, that is what i am using.
It was impressive at the beginning, however not anymore.
lag is back, the alarm bug is still on, and some recent random restarts started.
I know there are fixes etc - but its worth noting that the hardware will die unutilised at least when it comes to official roms from samsung.

The lag issue is a common theme with the SGS. Not sure how long you have owned your SGS but I believe the SGS still has better hardware but the lag develops over time.
So when I first got me SGS in June last year, it was great at the start. Then the lag came in and I tried OneClick Lagfix based on xda advice. That seemed to work for a bit but then slowed down again. In November, I flashed my first custom rom (Darky 8.5), the used the Speedmod Lag fix. Same thing, good at the start, then slows down. I kept trying a few others (Darky 9.2, 10.1, DebusRom, ExtraOrdinary, Chebon) and the longest I stayed on before noticing the lag was about 1 month.
One of the steps suggested before a flashing a rom is to undo lagfix and recommended to do a wipe as the freshest install. Doing this seems to refresh the speed as it was at the start (so constant flashing seems to make things quicker).
Something also to try if you don't want to try a new rom or firmware, is to undo and redo the lagfix. Almost like defragmenting but it seems to refresh the system (imho).
I have also heard some of the latest firmwares (JVQ) have better implementations of the filesystem and have heard some people not using lagifx at all. Given you have installed lagfix, you aren't that far from installing a new firmware/rom (just back up your files obviously). I haven't been on JVQ long enough to see if this truly fixes the issue though.
Just my thoughts.

Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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This shocking,i had the wildfire,and have to say that i experienced totally different things than you.It was laggy,slow.Then i rooted the phone,and changed the sense crap to a different rom,then there was no lag.phone worked smoothly.as for my SGS,the stock thing is laggy.It gets much better only changing the kernel to Galaxian.

I gotta try that Galaxian kernel. Changing to other phone constantly inhabits my mind, to something more reliable.
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nesx87 said:
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
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Manufacturer? It's not even that simple. A friend has a stock one and it works nicely (for stock). Another friend has another stock one and lags horribly, force closes, freezes, has trouble with dropped calls. The difference? They are on different operators so the crap that they bundle together is so different that it makes or breaks the phone.

Hrithan2020 said:
I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
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You were right. LP was lagging the phone as hell, mostly when going back to the homescreen and closing apps. I gave TouchWiz a run for a straight hour, playing games, opening and closing emails, browsing G+, Maps and several other apps, it never lagged when going back to the homescreen, which is what worries me most. I still need to try it on everyday use though.
Time to find another launcher. Any recommendations?

[Q] Sad about my galaxy note, advice please :(

Hello all, first post here after reading for quite some time
I researched alot and decided to buy this phone because I concluded it was the best, performance, quality, resolution, etc
I have the phone for a week now and I don't feel happy with it, overall I see the phone is not really smooth, it frequently freezes for like 2 seconds when opening or closing an application, I was quite happy until before I installed some apps, like modern combat 3 and aftermath xhd, I can't install those via market because it says it's not compatible with my device, so I tried them out because I was too curious to see its performance, and I'm very disappointed...
modern combat 3 is unplayable, the menu is laggy, the game feels like its constantly loading something, it's choppy, I played only half of the first level because I couldn't go on anymore. Aftermath XHD was laggy at first, but now I'm at the sniper level and I had to give up, it's unplayable, when a shot is fired it lags so much it stops for like 3 seconds. I read all over the internet that those games run smooth on defys, so what's the problem here?
I'm at stock rom and kernel (N7000UBKK1, 2.6.35.8-N7000UBKK3, GINGERBREAD.UBKK3), I'm not really into flashing, but after reading over the games thread people saying it's smooth and working fine I think it's my only hope, if it doesn't fix it I guess my hardware would be faulty then.
I'm starting to think that the internal disk is the bottleneck, and I'm not sure if updating can turn a non-playable game smooth, so has any of you guys ever experienced this or been through this, can give some advice or based on your experience point out if it is possible to solve this problem?
thanks in advance

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it's not compatible with my device
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I hope this answered your question.
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Hey, after using the Iphone 3gs since its release I must say Im impressed with both Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note BUT the random freezez and input lag that appears every now and then is just frekking annoying. Even with custom romz and different kernels this happens atleast 10 times everyday. As a techie guy I like the freedom that android gives me compared to the endless jailbreaking and ego behaviour by apple. However I'd say android devices must with the current hardware fix this type of problems since in the end user experience is the most important and If I spend 600 euros on a phone I'm sad to say that touchwise it still lacks a lot but after playing with it now for two weeks I have to say that I've gotten used to it. Samsung should stop pushing so many devices and focus on making the android software more stable, better touch input and reduce the frekking lag, dual core or not.
This forum is the best I've found and has everything a phablet nerd needs
Samsung Galaxy S2 - Stock Rom 2.3.5 with Launcher Pro (faster than the note with standard settings!!!!)
Samsung Galaxy Note - RocketRom V9 KKA 2.3.6 Launher Pro, CPu 1,6 mhz (still!! laggs sometimes)

Yeah, the Note is not polished enough yet. But don't lose faith - it will get better once we get ICS, shouldn't be that long. Right now it's up to you - you can improve it noticeably by flashing, tweaking and overclocking. I did that and I don't look back it ain't perfect but good enough for me.
KL3 soft + Abyssnote 2.5 kernel + OC (1650) + either lulzactive governor and vr scheduler (very responsive OS) or ondemandx gevernor and sio scheduler (smoother 3D games). These are settings that do the trick for me.

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I hope this answered your question.
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It's also not compatible with everyone else's device, and people are reporting the game runs fine, how so?

If your game data is in your external SD Card, that may well be the problem
Anyhow, the Note is a niche device with a flavor of early adopting, since it's the first phone with this big a screen (the streak was a tablet, if I'm not mistaken?) and because it's one of the three first with a HD resolution.
What does that mean? That many things that work flawlessly on lesser devices won't work here simply by lack of dev support. One example? The gameloft games, my favorites. None of them are officially supported, and I haven't managed to make them work unofficially.
One thing is for sure: Android required flashing, period. The Defy is crap without any flashing, so is the Atrix, and now the Note is. At the very least, put on the CWM recovery, which takes about 60 seconds of your time, and try the custom Kernel that is swimming lonely down in dev section that allows you an OC of 1.7ghz. See if that helps with the lagging.

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It's also not compatible with everyone else's device, and people are reporting the game runs fine, how so?
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Don't worry with this kind of responses, you'll get them here sometimes. This is XDA, forum 100% dedicated to tinkering with phones so who cares what's compatibile with what. Make it work and enjoy.

This game is about 1.4GB if it has been installed on your internal memory you will definitely run out and and your phone will struggle,go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/Remove To SD card.

Just another boring witch hunt thread (yawn).

thanks a lot for the replies guys, you guys really helped a lot, I'm a lot more confident now and anxious to start flashing!
I got one question before starting the flashing process, is the JIG dongle for the S2 compatible with the note? I can't find the note JIG anywhere around here

I thought mw3 didn't work with the newest gingerbread yet.
Like the above poster said, try kl3. Little lag I had disappeared.
GALAXY NOTE

[4.4] Android KitKat is made to run on OUR old phone!!

Google released nexus 5, and as you know it contains the brand new Android version KitKat.
Apperently google has make it compatible with old phones (such as ours) even those with as low as 512mb RAM.
It uses 60% less memory than JellyBean!
So let's just wait for the sources to be released D
source:
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
http://googleblog.blogspot.no/2013/10/android-for-all-and-new-nexus-5.html?m=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fecfiMSIe8k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Yip! No reason for me to get a new device, the software just keeps getting better

That's only about ram, how about cpu, gpu and so on?

thomasnguyen said:
That's only about ram, how about cpu, gpu and so on?
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The GPU load can be reduced to a level better suited to our phone, I'm already doing this on CM 9.1.
The CPU however will be interesting to see, but the two (memory footprint and CPU load) go together in some cases
Regardless of that though, more than likely Google would not have made the effort of giving 4.4 such a small memory footprint for the sake of old devices* if they did not also make sure it is perfectly capable of being run on comparable CPUs.
*They explicitly stated that was the intention.

Where did you get the statistic that it uses 60% less memory than Jelly Bean ? @david234000
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Where did you get the statistic that it uses 60% less memory than Jelly Bean ?
 @david234000

Our GPU is still decent, but still below a tier of the second best GPUs (Mali 400 of s2 s3).
RAM issue is interesting because we are employing the slowest memory DDR1, as well as 512 MB of physical memory (some devices have 640 physical but advertise them as 512 MB)
CPU is also very weak compared to other low end offerings, but it should not be the bottleneck of our device (it is probably RAM)
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hope it comes out Android 4.4 for our device, Android 4.2 runs well then kitkat should run even better

ThunderOver said:
hope it comes out Android 4.4 for our device, Android 4.2 runs well then kitkat should run even better
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My friend if 4.4 runs better than 4.2 then... awesome :highfive:

So does anybody know when are the sources going to be released?

kogli said:
So does anybody know when are the sources going to be released?
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was released 4 days ago.. read this
and yesterday Samsung Galaxy nexus (oldest) already had its ports... read this
S3 already has leaked versions today ...read this
Check this out! You , YES! you are an " Android ". Not your phone but U.​

Google already released the source..cyanogenmod already pushed the source..so just wait for cyanogenmod
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At least, it will run as good as the latest 4.2 builds for our device, so let's wait what our devs can do with KitKat to make it even more enjoyable :good:
Especially the RAM optimizations will be something our devices will benefit from. As being said before, that has been one of the weakest parts of the system in the past. Multitasking and such things should profit from that. Let's wait and see...

I have high hopes for Kit Kat. I am not sure if it'll actually run "our" poor device (i9000) run any better but i believe adding TRIM and better memory management can yield some positive effects.
Kit Kat was released for FUTURE low spec phones. When they said about Lower RAM, i immediately knew they were talking about those dual core processors and so on. I'd really love to have Hangouts as my primary sms app but the kind of resources it needs, our phone is just not enough to power it up.
Anyway, this seems like a fair challange for Android. If Kit Kat successfully powers our devices "Better" than previous android versions then i am SOLD for Google. :fingers-crossed:
Anxiously waiting for a Kit Kat ROM. Heck, imma upgrade it that very day, even if its an Alpha build lol.

I don't know what you're on about with regards to hangouts, it runs like a dream on my phone.
Are you running a bunch of background stuff? I intentionally ditched the Facebook app because it alone greens half the phone's resources, crazy.
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Hr Kristian said:
I don't know what you're on about with regards to hangouts, it runs like a dream on my phone.
Are you running a bunch of background stuff? I intentionally ditched the Facebook app because it alone greens half the phone's resources, crazy.
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yes, I ditched that app too and saw a massive speed improvement

Hr Kristian said:
I don't know what you're on about with regards to hangouts, it runs like a dream on my phone.
Are you running a bunch of background stuff? I intentionally ditched the Facebook app because it alone greens half the phone's resources, crazy.
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I don't know if you were serious when you said "it runs like a dream". It runs just fine It STARTS like a *****. And you obviously can't run Hangouts running in the background because its just too resource hungry. In almost all cases, it takes like 6-7 and sometimes as long as 12 seconds to load hangouts app (too much ram clearing going on in background i think) and you try to go back, the Launcher will redraw because Hangouts had kill the other processes in the background to make room for itself.
Before you say anything. I am not new to this stuff. I am using CM 4.2.2 (some oct Nightly) w/ Devil Kernel and BigMem (420MB). I use Greenify so other apps like Facebook & Googleplus are always Hibernated in the background which means more RAM is always available to apps like Hangouts.
Its the CPU which is the main bottleneck. A single core just doesn't cut it these days. However, on a Dual Core phone with same amount of RAM ... THATs where hangouts runs like a dream.
Anyway, i am not complaining. I just hope things could get better than that, especially when we have TRIM support and ART in our disposal with Kit Kat. I have been using i9000 since THREE years (or more) now. Bought it back in 2010 i think when it launched, and i am not letting it go any time sooner. (Just love Voodoo Sound)

abobobilly said:
I don't know if you were serious when you said "it runs like a dream". It runs just fine It STARTS like a *****. And you obviously can't run Hangouts running in the background because its just too resource hungry. In almost all cases, it takes like 6-7 and sometimes as long as 12 seconds to load hangouts app (too much ram clearing going on in background i think) and you try to go back, the Launcher will redraw because Hangouts had kill the other processes in the background to make room for itself.
Before you say anything. I am not new to this stuff. I am using CM 4.2.2 (some oct Nightly) w/ Devil Kernel and BigMem (420MB). I use Greenify so other apps like Facebook & Googleplus are always Hibernated in the background which means more RAM is always available to apps like Hangouts.
Its the CPU which is the main bottleneck. A single core just doesn't cut it these days. However, on a Dual Core phone with same amount of RAM ... THATs where hangouts runs like a dream.
Anyway, i am not complaining. I just hope things could get better than that, especially when we have TRIM support and ART in our disposal with Kit Kat. I have been using i9000 since THREE years (or more) now. Bought it back in 2010 i think when it launched, and i am not letting it go any time sooner. (Just love Voodoo Sound)
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I'm on a nexus s, single core/ 512m ram/ we have 4.4 available to our phone and it's a bit laggy.. As far as the rest of the updated 4.4 apps, the run great, no lag on my 4.3.1 ROM... 4.1.2 is still the fastest/smoothest/ less resource heavy (modern-ish) ROM available... "New" is good, but "works perfectly" is better...
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Setting.Out said:
I'm on a nexus s, single core/ 512m ram/ we have 4.4 available to our phone and it's a bit laggy.. As far as the rest of the updated 4.4 apps, the run great, no lag on my 4.3.1 ROM... 4.1.2 is still the fastest/smoothest/ less resource heavy (modern-ish) ROM available... "New" is good, but "works perfectly" is better...
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Yep, agreed on that. 4.1.2 is still the smoothest. However, Nexus S users are still better off because they have a faster NAND Flash as compared to us the i9000 users. So at the end of the day, our phones lag much more than the Nexus S.
Still, like you said. "new is good". I am hoping this "new" to be "perfect". Lets see what actually happens.

abobobilly said:
I don't know if you were serious when you said "it runs like a dream". It runs just fine It STARTS like a *****. And you obviously can't run Hangouts running in the background because its just too resource hungry. In almost all cases, it takes like 6-7 and sometimes as long as 12 seconds to load hangouts app (too much ram clearing going on in background i think) and you try to go back, the Launcher will redraw because Hangouts had kill the other processes in the background to make room for itself.
Before you say anything. I am not new to this stuff. I am using CM 4.2.2 (some oct Nightly) w/ Devil Kernel and BigMem (420MB). I use Greenify so other apps like Facebook & Googleplus are always Hibernated in the background which means more RAM is always available to apps like Hangouts.
Its the CPU which is the main bottleneck. A single core just doesn't cut it these days. However, on a Dual Core phone with same amount of RAM ... THATs where hangouts runs like a dream.
Anyway, i am not complaining. I just hope things could get better than that, especially when we have TRIM support and ART in our disposal with Kit Kat. I have been using i9000 since THREE years (or more) now. Bought it back in 2010 i think when it launched, and i am not letting it go any time sooner. (Just love Voodoo Sound)
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I'm sorry, you must be confusing me with someone who takes another person's anecdotal evidence over my own.
I don't use Greenify, I don't use Ram Manager, I have nothing of the sorts installed, I use Hangouts, and I use ADW Launcher, and I've spent the last 5 minutes switching between apps trying to reproduce your issues, and I am not able to.
Hangouts does load kind of slow (about 4 secs to load from nothing), I have thousands of SMS going through it so I am not surprised, Spotify is much worse with my offline playlists. I go into Hangouts (all the regular background services running, obviously); Home Key out to ADW, it's still there (I am not forcing it to memory), all 5 pages and widgets. I hop into Hangouts; it's still there with no lag; switch to camera, it's no issue, switch to XDA, bam, that is one hungy fella so it uses about 3 seconds to load my first screen.
I could go on forever. The fact is though: Your issues are not my issues. It's also worth noting I have the slow i9000, not the fast one, I am running 1GHz, regular animations, no RAM optimizations like zRAM or Samepage Merging. Regular ol' CM Kernel.
I've also been on this phone for "THREE years" as you so calmly put it. I also love our Wolfston DAC, I love that for some reason, my old CM9.1 w/Semaphore ran like ****, but my new CM10.1.3 runs like the wind, including all the apps.
I do not care that you have issues, it frankly seems like you've painted yourself into a corner with all your optimizations (I had them running on 9.1), maybe you're doing something wrong, despite your amazing three years of experience.
I run my phone like a champ, you do not, sorry 'bro.
EDIT: For those that do struggle with memory problems, look into "Long press back to kill" in dev options, back on CM9.1 I used it a lot because I knew my apps and phone better than the OS did. It's a god-send for people who want control.

Hr Kristian said:
I'm sorry, you must be confusing me with someone who takes another person's anecdotal evidence over my own.
I don't use Greenify, I don't use Ram Manager, I have nothing of the sorts installed, I use Hangouts, and I use ADW Launcher, and I've spent the last 5 minutes switching between apps trying to reproduce your issues, and I am not able to.
Hangouts does load kind of slow (about 4 secs to load from nothing), I have thousands of SMS going through it so I am not surprised, Spotify is much worse with my offline playlists. I go into Hangouts (all the regular background services running, obviously); Home Key out to ADW, it's still there (I am not forcing it to memory), all 5 pages and widgets. I hop into Hangouts; it's still there with no lag; switch to camera, it's no issue, switch to XDA, bam, that is one hungy fella so it uses about 3 seconds to load my first screen.
I could go on forever. The fact is though: Your issues are not my issues. It's also worth noting I have the slow i9000, not the fast one, I am running 1GHz, regular animations, no RAM optimizations like zRAM or Samepage Merging. Regular ol' CM Kernel.
I've also been on this phone for "THREE years" as you so calmly put it. I also love our Wolfston DAC, I love that for some reason, my old CM9.1 w/Semaphore ran like ****, but my new CM10.1.3 runs like the wind, including all the apps.
I do not care that you have issues, it frankly seems like you've painted yourself into a corner with all your optimizations (I had them running on 9.1), maybe you're doing something wrong, despite your amazing three years of experience.
I run my phone like a champ, you do not, sorry 'bro.
EDIT: For those that do struggle with memory problems, look into "Long press back to kill" in dev options, back on CM9.1 I used it a lot because I knew my apps and phone better than the OS did. It's a god-send for people who want control.
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So you are happy with your phone. Good for you.
You are being a little too unrealistic about the performances while you seem to disregard the problems/limitations that still exist as of this day, as well as the problems in the older ROMs.
The CM9.1 you are talking about was ICS which in itself was a worst nightmare for everyone. Its main problem regarding "Internal Storage Low" were enough to put some off. (However scripts to bypass that was available and i survived that perfectly fine, because of the "functionality" i was getting). It was Jelly Bean (CM10 and later) where things started to pick up the pace, and now 4.1.3 users seem happier because its slightly less hungry on RAM than 4.2 or later users (which is where "I" am).
That being said, i did mention about the Hangouts' Load Times. If i am at home then i can bear agonizingly slow load times of Hangouts but if i am outside or in an emergency, then its a genuine problem. (Stock CM SMS app takes like half a second to load up)
Lets talk about the point where your ROM starts to get slower after some time of usage, until you reflash it. TRIM support eliminates this issue which is in 4.3. That, combined with the fact that i9000 has a agonizingly slow NAND Flash used in it, greatly affects the performance ... which your post is implying that its "not happening with you". If its not, then Good for you. OR maybe you just arent' accepting it because you'll feel pwned ... MAYBE.
And i am not using any RAM Manager, never have in the first place. But Greenify is something essential, something which can actually replace the "AutoRun" program we used to use back in the days. If you don't know about it, or don't want to use it ... fine. But don't start pointing fingers are people or making it look like "We are Wrong" and "You are the Genius",
The only thing i mentioned about "Hangouts" was A FACT which you proved yourself, however apparently trying to hide or reduce its implications for some unknown reason. I didn't even mention any other problem where you are trying to be jumpy with your attitude.
Lets not turn the tables here and focus on the Kit Kat's discussion. I am looking forward to it. If you aren't, Good for you.