Hi, i've read over at the android development thread that some users of 3rd party battery are unable to boot into android from winmo due to certain limitations of the kernel in recognizing the battery (possibly similar to extended hd2 batteries). as i'm looking to get another battery to be a spare to bring on the go, i would like to verify the claim with fellow hd2 users..
my question is this:
To all 3rd party battery users, who have successfully booted into android from their 3rd party battery and brand of the battery (if any)?
hope this will help me and every1 else looking to purchase a 3rd party battery to use as a spare battery since it would suck if it cant be used for android..
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I just ordered one from ebay it is a cameron sino, or somthing like that. it is a 2400mAh. I will let you know. I also read somewhere that if you cover up the gold pin that senses tempature then the phone will boot, but since i dont have a extended battery yet i can neither confirm nor deny. Either way i will let you know in a couple of days.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Category=20336&_trkparms=algo=LVI&its=I&otn=1
I have two 1200 mah batteries that I swap out with the original batteries. No problems here except I never hit 100% full charge.
see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756513
this kernel has the option to disable tempchecking so any battry can be used, it has a ton of other awesome features too like overclocking
I have 2 3rd party batteries and I've had no issue with booting into or running Android.
Mine both 100% charge.
zole2112 said:
I have 2 3rd party batteries and I've had no issue with booting into or running Android.
Mine both 100% charge.
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Same, however they are similar to the original battery.
Mine are Andida batts.
Thanks every1.. will update the 1st post layet to include the stuff u guys mentioned.. about the special kernel which ignores battery temperature, is it for extended batteries or is it for normal sized batteries as well?
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Ok I just got my extended battery from ebay, I popped it in and loaded Android. And it worked. It booted into android with no problems. If you want to purchase one like mine I have a previous post and I provided a link. The back cover protrudes a bit but is not in the way at all. I like it. I will buy probably 3 more of this exact one.
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Does anyone know if it is possible to power the HD2 from the micro USB supply while I swap batteries. I don't want to have to do a soft reset which loses what you are doing. But I'm worried that without the battery to absorb the power there is a risk of damaging the circuits?
I don't want to just try it because I already blew my main board by powering the USB through a cheep adapter and a Nokia charger that supplied too much power and had I to get it repaired/replaced. I'm hoping someone already knows.
Sam
I bought the 2400 mah extended battery for $21.99 and it booted right into android fine but the new back cover didn't fit my phone very well. So I bought HTC's extended battery 2300 mah with back cover and kickstand on back cover it was much more expensive $71.99 with priority shipping from clove UK. I got it put it in and it would not boot into Android. I had to use the special kernel and then voila all is well. Thanks to XDA and the people who put all the hard work into these projects. I love my HD2 with dual boot and extended battery and it even has a freakin kickstand now LOL!
I've owned the eBay 2400 or 2600 extended battery since I got my phone months ago and have had no problems at all with using Android with it. Just yesterday I decided to swap for the stock battery though, mostly because I absolutely love how sleek the HD2 is with the stock battery.
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Does anyone know if it is possible to power the HD2 from the micro USB supply while I swap batteries. I don't want to have to do a soft reset which loses what you are doing. But I'm worried that without the battery to absorb the power there is a risk of damaging the circuits?
I don't want to just try it because I already blew my main board by powering the USB through a cheep adapter and a Nokia charger that supplied too much power and had I to get it repaired/replaced. I'm hoping someone already knows.
Sam
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nope.. its not possible..
i use FroyoStone Sense - Version 3.1
i put the htc 2300 battery but android just shutdown
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I have found a 3000 mAh battery on eBay for around $100 with shipping, and since I'm pretty tired of the short battery life I'm considering it. I was so embarassed when the family went skiing yesterday! My kids have smartphones (Qtek 8030 & 9100 - I keep the family on intelligent phones, my wife has a Qtek 8500 Star Trek) and they had MP3's playing all day in the slopes with only one of the three battery level stripes dissappearing, while I had to put my Atom in the car and charge it after only three hours, when it was down to less than 15 %! Which is why I'm considering either an expensive 3000 mAh or one of those cheap USB chargers where you just put in a regular AA (or was it AAA?) battery and hook it up to the mini USB port. So has anybody tried either of them?
The battery-based chargers work, there are AA and AAA models 'round here (>1 battery each) - but I haven't tried it on the Atom yet. Be aware that the Atom has a charger protection mechanism that refuses to let the battery trickle charge if it doesn't provide a rated amount of juice (this is not mentioned in the O2 site, but it's there. It's the reason why chargers that normally work on the Mini won't work on the Atom).
Personally, I'd rather get a charger that works practically everywhere than to grab an extended battery.
(Have you considered those new fangled solar powered chargers? Some of them contain internal batteries that store energy, even under artificial light - and it is this battery that is used to charge your device. This could be a better idea, but be sure to check if it works on your device.)
PS: a PDA eats battery like no tomorrow because it usually uses better processors and interfaces - the XScale on ours is the eater here. Smartphones run on a lower rated processor/card slots, and don't have touch sense screens, and thus can last for much longer. If you really need your PDA to last, well, forever - you might want to consider an extended battery or one of the CPU scaler programs.
Thanks! I forgot to say that I ate the battery with the CPU at 208 mHz (with XCpuScalar)... Anyway, I have two of those AA-chargers on the way, I'm glad they work! At home I have GP PowerBank chargers and a bunch of rechargable batteries which I will use for this. With any luck a few of those will last me all day on skis!
And I didn't know about that protection mechanism in the Atom, I have been wondering why it's so extremely picky when it comes to charging from USB cables and stuff like that.
And I hadn'd even heard about the solar charging option, but I see there are a bunch of those on eBay. They look pretty cool, but unfortunately when I'm in the sun I seldom stand still long enough to put the charger and the phone anywhere for charging. If there was an affordable vest or jacket for that, though...
I think the O2's charger protection mechanisms were discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276400
Methinks Quanta borrowed something from Motorola.
The solar charger, btw, works under incandescent light as well (I have one - useful in a hotel room where you don't have a plug but you have access to a desktop lamp). More expensive models can supposedly work under flourescent light, but I'm a cheapskate. They work by having an internal LiON themselves, which is trickle charged by solar/incandescent power - and then the battery itself is the one that charges your PDA's battery. Many different types exist, but most of them have a 1000-3000mah internal reservoir, and the better ones have different voltage settings for differenet devices.
Yeah, but the problem is that they're too big for my jacket pockets, so they won't help me skiing.
Well, that didn't really work. So I have decided to go for quantity instead of quality: Ordering three batteries, one with a charger that charges it ouside of the phone as well as charges the phone. All in all around 40 dollars, which gives me four batteries to play with. I ain't gonna use up my phone next time I'm in the slopes! And I think the same batteries can be used on my next phone, the Atom Life. It's got a larger capacity battery, but it looks like it's the same physical shape. Then again I may be wrong, but at least I will have no problems on those boat trips this summer!
And that worked! Not to mention that the original battery has to be total an utter crap! On these new batteries I had more than twice the battery time I had on the original. Of course it's been used for about two years, but still it shouldn't be that bad! I have five year old PPCs that hasn't changed that much in battery time. Anyway, with three new batteries and the old one I can keep going for a looong time!
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And that worked! Not to mention that the original battery has to be total an utter crap! On these new batteries I had more than twice the battery time I had on the original. Of course it's been used for about two years, but still it shouldn't be that bad! I have five year old PPCs that hasn't changed that much in battery time. Anyway, with three new batteries and the old one I can keep going for a looong time!
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bro did u tryed u,r AAA batery charger for Aom Life? i also bought a AAA battery charger fro my first Atom but not working after that tryed for my Atom Exec saem now going to check on my Atom Life,, thought to ask u befor check it.......
Some types works, some don't. It seems like only the black type work,while the shiny metallic one doesn't.
I just got a samsung vibrant and i got 2 problems one is the screen when i get a message or something like that when the screen is locked it stays on i got to turn it off can some one help me fix that thanks
2 problem is the battery does not last me a full day and i got nothing on it i need a bigger battery asap or i got to return the phone my mytouch lasted longer than thins one please some one help me find a way to get it to last longer or a bigger battery thanks
I am wishing for an extended battery too. Currently, I'm using one of those Duracell pocket lithium ion USB batteries.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0321688
Having another device and cable to carry around works, but is a pain...
my battery easily lasts a day. I can get through a full 9 hour day of work and still have 78% battery left. Not to mention I left my phone off the charger last night, got up 10 hours later and the battery only went down 3%
You sure you dont have any programs open? Also I don't use a task manager if that means anything to u
onyx550 said:
I just got a samsung vibrant and i got 2 problems one is the screen when i get a message or something like that when the screen is locked it stays on i got to turn it off can some one help me fix that thanks
2 problem is the battery does not last me a full day and i got nothing on it i need a bigger battery asap or i got to return the phone my mytouch lasted longer than thins one please some one help me find a way to get it to last longer or a bigger battery thanks
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I bought this, it took about 2 weeks to get to me,(but for 12.99 for 2 batteries and a wall charger) as it was coming from hongkong, but got it yesterday, and its great, 2 extra batteries, and a wall charger so now i dont even need to charge my phone, i let the battery die so i can train them right, and just pop in a fully charged one when needed. the charger even has a usb hookup like the original wall charger that came with it, so really you could charge an extra battery, plus the one in the phone through the usb cable. The batteries are the same as the stock one that came with the phone. I wish i would have done this with my G1, instead of spending 90 bucks on 1 extra battery that didnt even have an external charger.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-BATTERY-dock...20599053354?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_2384wt_1137
mikey98277 said:
I bought this, it took about 2 weeks to get to me,(but for 12.99 for 2 batteries and a wall charger) as it was coming from hongkong, but got it yesterday, and its great, 2 extra batteries, and a wall charger so now i dont even need to charge my phone, i let the battery die so i can train them right, and just pop in a fully charged one when needed. the charger even has a usb hookup like the original wall charger that came with it, so really you could charge an extra battery, plus the one in the phone through the usb cable. The batteries are the same as the stock one that came with the phone. I wish i would have done this with my G1, instead of spending 90 bucks on 1 extra battery that didnt even have an external charger.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-BATTERY-dock...20599053354?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_2384wt_1137
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So, are the batteries of the same quality as the original?
Samsung Vibrant Extended Battery?
IM looking for a extended battery or a way to get my battery to last all day so that is what i need thanks
chaoscentral said:
my battery easily lasts a day. I can get through a full 9 hour day of work and still have 78% battery left. Not to mention I left my phone off the charger last night, got up 10 hours later and the battery only went down 3%
You sure you dont have any programs open? Also I don't use a task manager if that means anything to u
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That would work, but I use the phone most of the day. It is not idle.
I take my phone off the charger at 5am @ 100%
Text most of the day at work with a 30 minute phone call at lunch...
Some moderate browsing and gaming...
I get home around 530pm, and "usually" have around 40%...
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So, are the batteries of the same quality as the original?
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They are Samsung batteries, they look exactly like the one that came with my phone( down to the details written on the battery, only different thing is the date which was from 6/10 where the one with my phone was 7/10 and the s/n number), so I would say yes it is the same quality.
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So, are the batteries of the same quality as the original?
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i bought the same set of batteries and charger. i'm still going through the charging/cycling phases with these new batteries. i'm not sure if they are on par with the stock batteries but i'll soon find out after a few more charges.
I am still doing that also, but I have to say that the wall charger is worth the money so even if the batteries don't work out, at least I have this awesome dual wall charger!
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mikey98277 said:
I am still doing that also, but I have to say that the wall charger is worth the money so even if the batteries don't work out, at least I have this awesome dual wall charger!
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Yeah, I am more than likely going to buy one, seems handy. It helps that it is dirt cheap.
mikey98277 said:
I am still doing that also, but I have to say that the wall charger is worth the money so even if the batteries don't work out, at least I have this awesome dual wall charger!
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haha yeah i was about to say the same thing. charges pretty fast and has a cool blue and red-pink colored charger indicator
so far. the batteries are not on par with the stock battery. i work eight hours shifts. my battery runs down to 35-40 pct with moderate usage i.e. facebook, youtube, casual browsing by the time i leave work.
these ebay batteries drain all the way down to 5 pct by the time i leave work and on the eigth hour. i'm on my third charge cycle. hopefully i'll see some improvement this week.
here's what i have running in the background on my phone at work the whole day:
aquarium live wallpaper
facebook widget
twitter widget
beautiful widgets clock
engadget widget
tikl push to talk app.
each widget is set to update every two hours
I was looking at this:
http : //cgi . ebay . com/2x-Battery-USB-AC-Car-Charger-zu-Samsung-I9000-Galaxy-S_W0QQitemZ180543282222QQcategoryZ20336QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DMRU-15032%252BUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D20%26pmod%3D160468248236%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6318287668313258463#ht_2099wt_1137
But now, I'm considering this:
mugenpoweronline . com/product_info.php?products_id=790
My only gripe is the price tag though.
Peace
S II
I got the same type of deal on ebay, 2 batteries & the charger (did the same thing with my MT3G as well), it's always nice having extra batteries, and I can use the charger when I'm traveling (it will also charge up my PSP). Now just need to get a mini to micro USB adapter and I have one less cable to carry around for charging - although I recently got an external drive for data storage, so I guess I will need a second cable if I want to tether my phone and use the external drive.
The batteries are not as good as stock and one seems to hold a charge better than the other (have to mark them so I remember which is which - these are generic one without the Samsung label), but as I train them via charge, use until dead, swap, charge, this should at least max them out a bit. The ones I had for my MT3G actually outperformed the original battery that came with so was hoping for the same. But considering how cheap these are, I could even pick up a couple more.
ryan562 said:
i bought the same set of batteries and charger. i'm still going through the charging/cycling phases with these new batteries. i'm not sure if they are on par with the stock batteries but i'll soon find out after a few more charges.
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Those batteries from Hong Kong are not an original Samsung battery, they are just compatibles.
The lasting power of a li-on battery depends not just on the mAh, also the circuit inside the battery counts much of it.
The circuit takes care of the special sleep modes and energy saving features of a battery.
Samsung has its own energy saving codes that can not be put into a common compatible batteries.
This is why an original one is much more expensive than a compatible ones.
Extended battery for the vibrant, lasts twice as long and great door
Check this out: Moretalktime's feedback is 100% and the door is soft rubberized--better than stock IMO. It cradles well in your hand in a very comfortable position and lasts over twice as long.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...89815&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_999wt_1139
Re: Batteries not lasting all day
I'd like to throw in an observation on this thread. My battery life is quite good on my Vibrant. Lasts all day easily but there are a couple of things to take notice of. First, I do not use any task killers or such, but I do check if there are any running programs with the built in task manager and stop them once I'm through with them. I've found that Voice Search and Web Access continue to run even after I've closed or backed out of them. Thus the need for use of task manager. But here's what I really found out. I've always charged my phone using the wall adapter with USB cable plugged into it. Never had a problem with battery life. Then for some reason, I decided to start using the USB cable attached to my computer. It would charge as normal and each morning it showed 100% charged. But after about 1 week of using the USB cable from the PC to charge the phone, I started having the horrible battery issues that I've read about. Extremely fast discharge. Leave at 8am and have like 50% use at noon. Crazy. So I started using the wall charger again and the phone has returned to its original state, easily lasting all day. Just a heads up for some of you guys having battery problems. No idea why this has happened but I've confirmed it. Maybe the Power Management thing on the USB ports on the PC?
I just saw this thread after a search on Google. I already posted elsewhere, but this looks like it might be the battery some of you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10055333&postcount=80
If nothing else, they also sell a 1600mAh battery which is 100mAh larger than the stock battery and still fits unter the stock cover. Good Luck
-Adam
I buy a HTC 2300mAh battery. But it does not load, the LED flashes red / green.
There is a rom that works with this battery on WP7?
Thank you for your answers.
Q/A would have been the right place for this post.
Your phone looks like a talkie walkie now ;D
Those "non official" batteries are often not compatible.
Thanks Dad57.
This is an official battery buy on htc.com
So? No ROM is yet available for this battery?
So if it is an official one, every rom would charge this one.
Tried on wm6.5?
it wont get charged works fine for android but quits at the use of wp7 - which means - runs out wont charge in wp7
i have one of these and cant use them here!
I don't understand why people always complicate their life to charge the phone by pc.
Check this out! http://cgi.ebay.de/Battery-AC-WALL-...114546?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f06ce2bb2
Just put your battery in and that works, because there is no rom which can affect the charging progress .
Finalforce1111 said:
I don't understand why people always complicate their life to charge the phone by pc.
Check this out! http://cgi.ebay.de/Battery-AC-WALL-...114546?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f06ce2bb2
Just put your battery in and that works, because there is no rom which can affect the charging progress .
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but even if it charges, it wont be read correctly so you wont get the extended battery recognized
I also have the official HTC HD2 BP E400 Extended Battery (2300mAh) and frankly, the only way that you can get the extra life out of it in WP7 is with external charger. I bought mine from ebay for less than $10.
Despite some claims above that WP7 Rom will not take an advantage of extra charge I have experienced otherwise. The phone will drop the indicator in the same manner as if it runs on the standard battery, but the extra charge will keep it going right at 1/4 charge for pretty much 1+ day of normal use which cannot be said about standard battery .
Bottom line is, you need external charger (or dual boot with Android as I did before purchasing the charger) which will consequently pay off also as your standard battery charger due to no current ROM being able to deliver full charge with them either. Just go for it and finally get full WP7 experience going.
Hope this helps
Hi,
I've installed WP7 from Yuki/XboxMod but is it possible to use this battery:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2600ma...tery-battery-cover-case-for-htc-leo-hd2-91228
The biggest one?
Or is it better to buy this 2 pack?:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replacement-3-7v-1350mah-battery-for-htc-hd2-pair-103568
I need to buy a new one because I can't do one day with it..
I've heard that some rom's does not work with it.
Greetz,
Kevin
I bought similar extended battery, but failed to gain any significant increase in battery life. I am using Xbmod/Yuki BTTF ROM. Even if I charge with external charger, the phone doesn't seem to recognise the extra capacity.
RebelMagpie said:
I bought similar extended battery, but failed to gain any significant increase in battery life. I am using Xbmod/Yuki BTTF ROM. Even if I charge with external charger, the phone doesn't seem to recognise the extra capacity.
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Thanks, then I'm going to buy the 2 pack normal.
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Thanks, then I'm going to buy the 2 pack normal.
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you can use the bigger battey and use an external charger, that will give you a full charge, to use it you just pop the battery out and restart the device when it reports low, that usually works at least it does for mine anyway
course if you got an cradle with external charger then you can buy a couple of batteries an keep some spare
HTC Extended Battery
Hi guys,
I'm planing to install WP7 on my HD2 but I don't know if the original HTC extended battery is supported once I intalled WP7 on it.
I see that you were talking about some others extended batteries but the one made by HTC self. Is it supported?
Thanks in advance
Lucio25m said:
Hi guys,
I'm planing to install WP7 on my HD2 but I don't know if the original HTC extended battery is supported once I intalled WP7 on it.
I see that you were talking about some others extended batteries but the one made by HTC self. Is it supported?
Thanks in advance
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I have the genuine HTC HD2 EXTENDED BATTERY, BA E400 2300MAH myself, and use it in substitution with regular battery...
Yes it'll work but your battery status readings will be incorrect i.e. the charge status bar in top right corner. However, the battery will last about twice as long as the stock one, but your batt status would be on low for that matter or as the guy in post somewhere above suggests, you can restart the phone when the indicator is low and get back accurate batt. level reading.
With that being said, EVEN THE GENUINE BATTERY WON'T CHARGE WHEN IT'S IN USE/IN THE PHONE. You're going to need external charger or charge it in Android (dual boot).
Good Luck!
Re : the 2 pack deal with external charger
aM i right in saying they cannot be charged when in use??
Would this have any repercussions with the genuine battery? Ie charging when in use?
Hi all.
Let's share our experience about batteries, this is more about hardware than software side. Where is better to buy quality replacement batteries and etc...
I'm using two normal capacity 1350 mAh replacement batteries on my HD2 Nexus android. Both of them I bought on ebay quite long time ago and... what can I say, they performing ok, maybe slightly worse that was original one (lost). Recently I bought extended battery on ebay, twice thick and twice heavier than original one with back cover, 2400 mAh. Strange thing, it lasts about the same (sometimes I think even less) as original capacity ones. Peope say do calibration... This is what I'm going to do tonight, but strange, these normal capacity ones have not done any calibrations and last well. The question, why double capacity one does'n last any longer???
I will update you about changes after calibration.
Because of the calibration it just charges it till the normal capacity battery would be full, and but since this is a extended capacity battery it will need to be calibrated so that it knows that it can be charged further.
But, that's my theory. just try it out and see for yourself.
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Tikras said:
Hi all.
Let's share our experience about batteries, this is more about hardware than software side. Where is better to buy quality replacement batteries and etc...
I'm using two normal capacity 1350 mAh replacement batteries on my HD2 Nexus android. Both of them I bought on ebay quite long time ago and... what can I say, they performing ok, maybe slightly worse that was original one (lost). Recently I bought extended battery on ebay, twice thick and twice heavier than original one with back cover, 2400 mAh. Strange thing, it lasts about the same (sometimes I think even less) as original capacity ones. Peope say do calibration... This is what I'm going to do tonight, but strange, these normal capacity ones have not done any calibrations and last well. The question, why double capacity one does'n last any longer???
I will update you about changes after calibration.
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Extended batteries will drain down to 15% then should stay there for a while. And even if the phone shuts down due to drainage all you have to do is remove the battery, put it back in and you're back to around 40%.
I use 2 extended ones from ebay and they last at least 1.5-1.75 longer than the skinny original htc one.
Try to wipe battery statistics in advanced option in CWR Recovery