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Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus
Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.
Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?
Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.
I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.
When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.
we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .
How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.
I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.
Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels
lagfix hands down
i prefer both at the same time.. but if i can only go with one i'd go with lagfix myself
it really doesnt matter...you COULD have both if you know what you're doin...me personally im running a lagfix....
My cpu can't handle the OC so I don't even bother. Just use a lagfix, you really don't need to overclock. It's not like we use our phones for scientific computing.
I've tryed all three ways.
I've found that some of the newer roms run just fine without either, but at the moment I'm only running overclock.(1.12 ghz)
just before this I was running 1.3 GHZ overclock and JFS advanced lagfix and I really dont see a ton of difference beyond benchmark scores and battery drainage lol.
although addmittedly it is fun to show off your benchmark scores :-D
in real life performance you probably wont notice much difference.
but try all three ways and see which you like better I'm sure some people really do have a need for overclock and lagfix, heck, if I could find a way to compile the android os from my phone I'd probably want the extra power :-D
but just find whats right for you
I am by no means an expert on this hardware, but as with any device you are only ever as fast as the system that bottle necks first. From what I have been able to gather thus far, on the Vibrant, that is I/O hands down. The rest of the hardware keeps up with most tasks quite well, and the lag fix helps to alleviate the bottlenecks in I/O by speeding up the read/write operations fairly well.
That would be where I put my money. Overclock sounds cool, but on these phones seems unnecessary.
Just my 2/100 of a $
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Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels
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Choosing one or the other is stupid, use both! Voodoo was a good idea months ago but it's outdated now, stop using it. Use a kernel like the one in my sig, it supports Ext4 lagfix (just like voodoo) AND overclocking, it's stable, and you won't softbrick if you flash over it.
So I've been messing around with different roms and kernels for the past few weeks and finally settled on CM6 6.1.1, and the snap 7.6 bfs kernel, for stability and speed. I turned on the turbo mode with snap, OC'd to 1152mhz (freezes at 1192), killed all apps, and ran quadrant.
[Picture of a 2330 benchmark screencap was supposed to go here, but I don't have eight post haha]
I know thats pretty good, my scores average from 2100-2350, but I'm looking to make it even quicker. What can I do?
Thanks!
Move to gingerbread.
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sultan.of.swing said:
Move to gingerbread.
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Which ROM and which kernel?
weehooherod said:
Don't use Snap 7.6 on CM6.1.1, just use the stock kernel. The new kernel built in with CM6.1.1 is much better, Snap 7.6 is pretty old.
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I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Which ROM and which kernel?
I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
A benchmark does not actually show how fast your phone is....
Cyanogen himself stated this.
quadrant scores =/= to your phone being 'fast'.
But if you care about synthetic benchmarks then you could trick your file system into giving you quadrant scores in the 3000+ range.
by the way thanks for posting this in the relevant subsection of the evo forum dedicated to development this will absolutely further the development of android.
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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Lol okay then guys, so which gingerbread ROM and which kernel for the best efficiency and speed?
david279 said:
Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
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I couldn't agree more, how instant can a phone get? Theres a point where speed wont be relevant anymore and its pretty damn close to it already. In my eyes efficiency is the future, doing more with less is something im looking forward to.
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Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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**** man I'm sorry I'm new to this forum.
Mods: Please move to the correct section.
Thread moved to General.
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
Oddly enough, I'd rather have the transition animations that come with some of the custom ROMs, even if they take longer. They provide a much more "fluid" experience. I don't like the jarring, speed-driven, animation-free transitions that come with stock ROMs, because they lack polish. As soon as I saw videos of those animations, I was in love. LOL. Seriously though, lag and lack of animations (which consequently actually help hide lag and load times) are the two things I see holding back the polish of Android. Just as an example (not trying start a flame war here, people), look at the animation when going from portrait to landscape in iOS. Then look at Android's lack thereof. THAT is what Android needs-to actually FEEL faster, not necessarily BE faster. So try something like that if you want the phone to feel more fluid instead of just achieving raw benchmark speed. Again, just my opinion (kind of sad that I feel the need to put that disclaimer in every post lately).
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Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
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that is interesting.. thanks for the info.
I hope it does open some more performance and maybe a way to overclock the GPU
Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.[/QUOTE said:
Lmao
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Looking for a stable rom with improved battery life for my wifes evo shift. What are the best options available?
I'd put this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953293
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Looking for a stable rom with improved battery life for my wifes evo shift. What are the best options available?
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why dont you just root it and apply OC kernel and get rid of the bloatware? mine runs smooth as hell on stock rom
i'll 2nd the mikshift rom and also the bcnice oc kernel (& setcpu) after loading the rom
the processor runs at 250'ish mhz when not being used then jumps up to a nice snappy 1.5ghz undervolted any time its being used
the speeds are completely configurable go as high or as low as you like under certain conditions or keep it stock at a constant 800mhz
foxsdaddy67 said:
why dont you just root it and apply OC kernel and get rid of the bloatware? mine runs smooth as hell on stock rom
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Whats an OC kernal?
OC stands for over-clocking, so a kernel that has the ability to be over-clocked, aka, run faster than the factory settings
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...the bcnice oc kernel (& setcpu) after loading the rom
the processor runs at 250'ish mhz when not being used then jumps up to a nice snappy 1.5ghz undervolted any time its being used
the speeds are completely configurable go as high or as low as you like under certain conditions or keep it stock at a constant 800mhz
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^This is what I am running and I have enjoyed it thus far. Stable so far, I did get a couple really minor graphic glitches (possibly unrelated but was at 1.8ghz) but all around it runs great at 1.8.
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^This is what I am running and I have enjoyed it thus far. Stable so far, I did get a couple really minor graphic glitches (possibly unrelated but was at 1.8ghz) but all around it runs great at 1.8.
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Any Battery issues? I'm thinking of applying an OC Kernel but not if it drains my battery too much.
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Any Battery issues? I'm thinking of applying an OC Kernel but not if it drains my battery too much.
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The kernels are undervolted...where the voltage of the processor is lowered to have better battery life and performance..so its better for you..even if you stay running at 806mhz
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I second KILO, I know some people hate the Sense UI but there are alot of people that like it. My wife specifically got this phone just for Friend Stream. Root + Stock Rom + OC Kernel is really a great combo and verry stable. Getting rid of the bloatware will make you feel good, but the phone runs well with it, so it is not essential. However every sprint phone I get the first thing to go is Nascar and Football app, ESPN is better imho.
I personally like the AOSP look and feel
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The maximum frequency that I found on my phone,
1.15 GHz, 1.25 V (stock voltage)
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Hey, who don't want to make phone faster?
You can find a free version app in Android Market.
If you like it you can also buy ultimate version to help me (think as a donation ver)
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isnt tegrak only for tegra based devices?
smackdownn said:
isnt tegrak only for tegra based devices?
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It is just my kinckname. no relation to Tegra core... Haha
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but we already have voltage control for free and it does OC and UV....
xredjokerx said:
but we already have voltage control for free and it does OC and UV....
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Oh is that true? can you show me a link about it? thanks. I did not know that. shameful. . :<
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tegrak said:
Oh is that true? can you show me a link about it? thanks. I did not know that. shameful. . :<
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030994
but i guess this is different since u can use it on a stock kernel?
mm i dont know how many people are still running stock however.
xredjokerx said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030994
but i guess this is different since u can use it on a stock kernel?
mm i dont know how many people are still running stock however.
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I have just read all threads that you told me. Yeah you are right at last comment. My app does not need custom kernel. In addition
no reboot, can change at runtime.
This is a big differrence from another apps.
Thanks for links anyway!
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yes this app loads a kernel module much like voodoo control plus does. it adds overclock to any kernel instantly. unfortunately for the developer most of us have a favorite overclock kernel. but this will work for adding overclock to kb1 non overclock kernels that some members prefer to use for call quality reasons, and for people that love the stability of speedmod but want to experiment with faster clock speeds
Dani897 said:
yes this app loads a kernel module much like voodoo control plus does. it adds overclock to any kernel instantly. unfortunately for the developer most of us have a favorite overclock kernel. but this will work for adding overclock to kb1 non overclock kernels that some members prefer to use for call quality reasons, and for people that love the stability of speedmod but want to experiment with faster clock speeds
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onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?
Well this is interesting. A good app for anyone who remains on stock and dosent want to load a custom rom but would like a little extra horsepower. The small percentage that people here make up may or may not use it, but to the rest of the world that is on stock, this could be really nice for them.
ballz0iron said:
onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?
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To AdamNimrod,Dany897
that is what I want to say. Thanks much.
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ballz0iron said:
onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?
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that is a gross over simplification. i believe onix has a lower kernel hz for battery life and additional patches though i never cared to keep track of specifically what features each kernel has.
also the ulk menu on speedmod actually works on all the options including jfs unlike onix
maybe you will have better luck in the epic and fascinate sections where there is no froyo source code so they have to choose between 2.1 overclocked and 2.2
Any chance to get this on 2.3.3?
Hey Dani, Thanks for advise.
.:Crack:. - I don't have Gingerbread rom for my device. I'm waiting for it..
tegrak said:
Hey Dani, Thanks for advise.
.:Crack:. - I don't have Gingerbread rom for my device. I'm waiting for it..
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+1 for you being from south Korea . I hope to visit there next summer :]
yea but what are the values for 1.2ghz?
how long the battery hold with such speed?
Vsel?
ballz0iron said:
onix is speedmod with OC/UV
EDIT: im just curious, ive traditionally undervolted my phone to increase battery life, what would be the purpose of increasing the voltage, seems as though it would be counter productive?
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Decreasing voltage increases battery life (obviously less juice = lasts longer) but also makes your phone less stable. The inverse holds true to a point. For every phone at every cpu speed, there is a range of voltages where your processor doesn't lock up and die instantaneously. Too much voltage makes it die, too little makes it shut off.
In the range where it works, however, the lower end is better for battery life, but if it's doing something towards the upper end of the freq range, it might still die, but the upper end of the voltage spectrum is pretty much good to go.
cant overclock my cappy at all raise it to 1.2ghz without any voltage change and
it says i need the full version...
whats the point in OC app that you cant use it?