Gorilla Glass - Epic 4G General

Just saw this on Engadget and found it interesting since I recall seeing some people talking about swapping the Epic's glass out for Gorilla Glass. Turns out it isn't necessary.
engadget.com/2010/08/24/samsung-galaxy-s-sporting-gorilla-glass-to-protect-that-precious/
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The Gorilla Glass protection on the Dell Streak is undoubtedly a selling point, and now Corning, the maker of said glass, has announced that the Samsung Galaxy S (which includes the Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate, and Epic 4G in its brood) employs the same alkali-aluminosilicate glass shield. The glass is similar to the "helicopter windshield" stuff Apple uses on the iPhone 4, which was rumored to be Gorilla Glass at one point, and while neither tech is impervious to shattering, they certainly can take a beating -- but just try and do that pen stab torture test while we're not looking, alright? We don't have the stomach to witness another beautiful Android handset so roughly handled. PR is after the break.

Its good that a tougher material is being used on the screen of the Samsung Galaxy line.
But even Gorilla glass will shatter/splinter if you drop it at the right angle onto a hard surface.

Yup. Should be tougher to scratch though.
IMO you take a gamble with any glass phone. My dog yanked my Pre out of my hand once and it went flying down the street. The case was gouged but the screen was fine. I doubt the results would have been as pleasant if the screen had been glass rather than plastic.
I think in the case of the Epic the benefits of the handset outweigh the risk of the glass screen...at least I'm hoping they do.

This is actually one of few things I'll miss going from the G1 to the Epic - the chin. Yes, it was ugly, and made typing slightly uncomfortable, but it made it impossible to directly impact the screen on a flat surface like a sidewalk or floor. The sides and corners of mine are a bit scuffed, but the screen looks like new.

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Gorilla glass on EVO?

I haven't seen any mention of this but as the Droid & Dell Mini 5 Streak have it, any confirmation yeah or nay on it for the EVO?
-Go check out the Dell Streak's Gorilla Glass screen: torture tested for your amusement (video) at Engadget if you haven't seen it..I'll link as soon as I'm allowed as a new user here
don't think Evo has gorilla glass
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Too afraid to try stabbing mine with a pen to see!
Too bad Gorilla glass looks awesome, I'd love the EVO to have it..
Was thinking of trying the "Ultimate Screen Guard - Anti Glare" at seidioonline.com-not that it would compare to gorilla glass, Seido products any good?
Kinda cool, i think all phones with a screen bigger then 4inchs should have some type of new screens
heres the link for those that havent seen it Dell Streaks Gorilla Glass Test: By Engadget
That would be pretty awesome on the Evo. Even if it cost an additional $100 (I'm hoping it'd be that cheap) I'd even be willing to have it done aftermarket if that were possible. Kinda like how colorware offers their service
I asked about this in the Q & A forum a while back. It seems that none of the HTC phones are equipped with Corning Gorilla Glass. I still would like to know if the glass that is installed on the EVO has an oleo-phobic coating. That question I just can't find an answer for. HTC is capable of this as the Hero has the coating. The coating made cleaning the screen on my iPhone 3GS soooo easy!
I have the Hero..
I am not sure if it has the Gorilla glass, but it is damn tough!
I have see test on youtube that show it's resistant to scratches. I have tested it out with keys.
Here is a vid with HD2. I say if not gorilla glass, it has something that is the same!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s&feature=related
now.. that said.. it is made of Glass and Glass in of itself, is a high scratch resistant material. what i wonder, how does it do against SHATTERING? I have dropped my hero a few times on hard surfaces and it does not show any evidence.
The gorilla glass is great, however, I still managed to somehow get a tiny scratch on my Droid's screen - and I'm anally careful with my phones. If the EVO doesn't have the gorilla glass, I may have to put on a screen protector, which I generally dislike.
I had my iPhone 3GS for almost a year and never had a screen protector or any scratches. Glass is hard to scratch. It has to be something harder than glass to scratch...like diamond. Glass is a "7" on the Mohs scale...diamond is a "10". Quartz, Topaz and something called Corundum are 7, 8 and 9. So, the odds of scratching glass are pretty slim unless you accidently hit it with a ring.
Sand will also screw your phone to hell and back, my friend took his iPhone to a bonfire we went to this week, I didn't touch my Hero all night but he was mingling with his iPhone a lot. He took out his phone the next day to see a bunch of minute scratches everywhere, whereas mine had nothing. Needless to say he was pissed. haha
Yeah, I can see sand scratching glass. Sand is used in making glass. My phone will never be in the sand, but I can see that.
Yeah shattering is the bigger functional concern, also on the 3GS I put the Power Support Anti-Glare to make the screen viewable in sunlight, easier to use with sweaty fingers & minimize fingerprints, so far it's been well worth the expense & for the EVO was considering http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/spm2hev4.htm, can someone vouch for it or recommend something comparable?
How does a screen protector prevent shattering?
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How does a screen protector prevent shattering?
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Maybe it has some sort of Flubber like qualities? That's the only way I could see that happening, and that doesn't even exist yet.
nyijedi said:
The gorilla glass is great, however, I still managed to somehow get a tiny scratch on my Droid's screen - and I'm anally careful with my phones. If the EVO doesn't have the gorilla glass, I may have to put on a screen protector, which I generally dislike.
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Did the same thing to my Zune HD, so now i'm just waiting for martin fields to make a screen protector for the evo. I've used them on a razr v3, TP1 and TP2, looks and feels just like the stock screens.
The good screen protectors - the ones you install with a liquid - are very rubbery. However, this isn't going to have an effect on shattering, which I agree is the bigger risk than scratching.
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Kinda cool, i think all phones with a screen bigger then 4inchs should have some type of new screens
heres the link for those that havent seen it Dell Streaks Gorilla Glass Test: By Engadget
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Aw damn. I was hoping they were going to take that pen to the Nexus One lying there to show a comparison of what happens when you don't have Gorilla Glass.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Too bad Gorilla glass looks awesome, I'd love the EVO to have it..
Was thinking of trying the "Ultimate Screen Guard - Anti Glare" at seidioonline.com-not that it would compare to gorilla glass, Seido products any good?
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Didn't say it would provide significant shatter protection like Gorilla glass but my question remains about the anti-glare screen protector for EVO?
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Yeah shattering is the bigger functional concern, also on the 3GS I put the Power Support Anti-Glare to make the screen viewable in sunlight, easier to use with sweaty fingers & minimize fingerprints, so far it's been well worth the expense & for the EVO was considering http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/spm2hev4.htm, can someone vouch for it or recommend something comparable?
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I don't know if the screen on the HTC Hero is the same as the one on the Evo but I've had that thing without any protectors and no scratches. I had a Droid for 30 days (Google IO gift), and that thing already has a scratch. I've been extra careful with that thing knowing that I'm going to sell it and it still got a scratch on it. From the looks of that youtube video, I hope the Evo is the same cause I don't like using screen protectors.

Does the Samsung Focus Really Have Cornings Gorilla Glass?

I heard that the Samsung Focus had corning gorilla glass and hearing this I decided a screen protector wouldn't be needed (gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant isn't it?). I'm the type of person who takes extra steps to protect his gadgets. I always hold my phone with a firm grip, I have a dedicated pocket for it (no keys or coins with it) and I never drop it. Recently I've noticed some scratches appearing on the front screen of my Focus. Most of them aren't very noticeable, but one in particular can be seen plain as day and is infuriating. Like I said, I don't have anything in my pockets, I've never dropped it and I want to know how these scratches appear on "scratch resistant" glass if nothing but my fingers and cloth are touching it.
If the Focus doesn't have the gorilla glass/gorilla glass isn't scratch resistant I will delete this thread in shame of my lack of knowledge
the zune HD has gorilla glass and I have a zune and a focus. I am reasonably sure the focus isnt gorilla glass, taps like plastic and scratches relatively easy. my zune has very little scratches after 8 months of abuse sharing pockets w/ keys; only one day with my focus in my pocket with my wallet i have scratches.
It does really seem like plastic. Or maybe really thin, versatile glass.
I asked Samsung via twitter on November 9th and they confirmed it
"the Focus does have Gorilla Glass. Thanks for reaching out to us, we're happy to help. ^Sab"
Just found this and it says the Samsung Focus does have gorilla glass.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Is it possible I got a bad unit? Or is it possible Samsung is just using the weakest gorilla glass?
EDIT: Dang, same time post
Samsung claims that the Focus has Gorilla Glass, so I guess you can just take their word for it. The Gorilla Glass might be underneath the plastic layer Samsung used. I think the Vibrant and European Galaxy S are the same way.
Here's a link to Samsung's official site Q&A about the Focus and if you scroll down you'll find that they confirmed it has Gorilla Glass. Click here. Also an official SamsungUSA rep on Twitter confirmed Gorilla Glass when he was asked. Click here.
Also, if you want to see a stress test of the Galaxy S' Gorilla Glass, check out this video (not in English but you get the gist of it). Click here.
I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.
OGCF said:
I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.
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Usually I get a case, but I haven't found anything to appealing yet (I like for my phone to look good). Also I try to keep it in the best condition so when I go to resell it I get maximum value
The screen feels identical withmy Captivate...
yes it is gorilla glass... ive put a few in already and can confirm.. plus i called samsung to be double sure...
huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer
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huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer
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Exactly. I want to know why that is.
glass scratches.. bottom line..
gorilla glass is just harder to scratch and is a tougher glass overall so it can be made thinner than other glass digitizers...
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Exactly. I want to know why that is.
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They probably have another layer over the Gorilla glass.
The Focus's screen really feels like plastic. It's just not as solid as, say, the iPhone 4 (which is said to use Gorilla glass for the front.) Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...
I do not have a case or a screen protector on my Focus and don't have a single scratch on the screen and only a few micro scuffs on the plastic battery cover. I am generally careful with my gadgets, but I have carried this phone with me every day since Nov 8th and both of my young children play with it on a regular basis, and still nothing. Thankfully I have not dropped it screen side down on any hard surfaces (knock on wood)!
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Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...
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It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.
I can tell you from personal experience that a Focus screen will not survive a 3 foot fall on its face to concrete. And it is very very much made of glass.
But it seems relatively scratch resistant : )
Have you guys seen the youtube video of a guy testing out the glass screen of the focus? He's literally stabbing the phone with a screwdriver and smacking it with the handle and there was no scratches on the phone afterwards.
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It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.
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It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...
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It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...
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I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?
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I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?
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You'd have to talk to them, but I doubt it. Usually physical wear and tear isn't really covered. But couldn't you return it and then buy another one?
I'm assuming you got the scratch when the phone landed screen-down on the floor mat of the car. There are usually tiny rocks and some are bound to be more solid than the glass, thus the tiny scratch. So 'unlucky' then, I suppose.

Gorilla glass and Gorilla glass

A major plus with the SGSII is the Gorilla Glass on the display, but the million dollar question is what it has on the camera lens?
I love not having to worry about the screen on my Nokia N8 (also Gorilla glass), but am always wary about the camera lens which is "scratch resistent mineral glass" although it's generally recessed in its housing enough not to be a real issue.
Looking at the SGSII videos and pictures, however, it looks as though it will rest solidly - and directly - on the lens cover of the camera in the back (and of couse that's not part of an easily replacable component like the battery hatch).
So - are we going to be able to put our phones down face up without worry?
You shouldn't worry, scratches on lenses isn't really a problem. The reason is a because of how optics in lenses/cameras work. The surface on the lense is so far from focus that a scratch on the lens isn't projected on the lens as a scratch. Of course, a big damage will cause visible effects though.
I'd really like to add some links with info, but I'm not allowed, really a pity that new users cannot prove their information.
But try to google:
kurtmunger dirty lens
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tech arp lens elements for scratches
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Isn't the SGS and ALL iPhones supposed to have 'Gorrilla Glass'? iPhone's shatter like no-one's business; is it a lie? Like the cake?
Apple doesn't use Gorilla Glass
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/06/25/ifixit-backtracks-on-iphone-4-gorilla-glass-claim/
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Isn't the SGS and ALL iPhones supposed to have 'Gorrilla Glass'? iPhone's shatter like no-one's business; is it a lie? Like the cake?
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Depends how you abuse a phone. iPhones shatter because they are small and slick and have hard metal around the edge that directly transfers impact force to everything else because it is the frame of the phone (plastic or metal that is attached to frame would dampen the impact somewhat) Also I think it is the back of the iPhone that shatters, and that glass is not as good as the screen glass.
tjtj4444: great first post. I agree 100%, small scratches are not visible to the image sensor when focused on something far away. A finger smudge is worse. So I hope those lenses are oleophobic
The camera cover on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is suppose to be depressed behind the phone. I don't think it will be vulnerable to scratches and severe damage. However, as in the case of all tech-gadgets, over the years of ownership, there should be visible signs of wear and tear. If these signs of wear of don't appear over time, then I have to say, you must be a very careful owner, lol.
I'm none too worried about an odd scratch, but more of multiple scratches. I remember being crushed when my Samsung i900 arrived with two scratches on the lens, but they never affected the photos.
On my Desire, however, I got so many scratches that they caught enough light to have the same effect as grease on the lens. Fortunately with the Desire, I replaced the battery cover multiple times and eventually just popped the lens cover out of one.
So, no, an occasional scratch won't ruin it forever, but multiple, repeated scratches will.
Gorilla glass isn't even that good honestly. It seems to be great for demonstrations where people actively try to damage it with keys and stuff but when you use it in the real world, stuff like sand and fine debris can easily mess the screen up.
On the forums here, someone stated that their LG Optimus 2X screen shattered and he is looking for a replacement, he eventually found the necessary parts, but my thought is that if it can shatter with just a drop, whats to say that this is a one time occurrence? Although there is no doubt its stronger than mineral glass and Apple's Glass.
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Gorilla glass isn't even that good honestly. It seems to be great for demonstrations where people actively try to damage it with keys and stuff but when you use it in the real world, stuff like sand and fine debris can easily mess the screen up.
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Im not so sure about that; I had my Captivate for about 7 months and nnever used a screen protecter.
I dropped the phone multiple times from various heights along with bumps, bangs,and stuffing in pockets.
Not a single scratch; the phone looked like hell too, However if you cover the body you'd think it was new.
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i used samsung omnia hd for 1 and a half year without any screen protector. and when i sold it, not even a single scratch wwas there. gorilla glass really works
Is there any official confirmation of Gorilla Glass?
Yeah, it definitely works. The flooring in my bathroom almost has a sandpaper consistency (yeah, lovely, I know, but it's a rental flat), and my record of inflicting damage on my phones is nothing I'm proud of, but I mostly blame that da%& flooring.
And, yet, I must have slid my Nokia N8 face down across that thing like 4-5 times and there's not a mark on the glass (the anodized aluminum is another matter unfortunately).
I'd be gutted if it turned out the SGSII didn't have Gorilla Glass. Last thing I need now is another phone with a grease-magnet screen protector.
I am sure Gorilla Glass is great but does it TRULY protect it against scratches from daily use?
Thats what they said about the iPhone but you do end up getting it scratched.
Perhaps Invisible shield for the back and sides and go bare in the front would be the optimal way.
You have to distinguish between scratching the actual screen versus scratching the oleophobic coating off. The iPhone has had the coating since the 3GS so it's a lot easier to scratch it off than to actually scratch the screen.
I've had a Vibrant (Gorilla Glass with no coating) and a few Nexus S's (no gorilla glass but oleophobic coating) and I abused the crap out of the Vibrant but it stayed flawless. The Nexus S... had the coating come off but if you clean it well you won't notice until you grease up the screen again, then the lack of coating becomes apparent. Even still, it stood up pretty well and it feels amazing compared to a screen without the coating.
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I am sure Gorilla Glass is great but does it TRULY protect it against scratches from daily use?
Thats what they said about the iPhone but you do end up getting it scratched.
Perhaps Invisible shield for the back and sides and go bare in the front would be the optimal way.
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So a screen protector is not needed or to have it is just a benefit?
If it has Gorilla Glass, I will definitely be going without a screen protector.
Sure an added layer of protection wouldn't hurt, but it comes at the cost of a plastic protector that attracts more dust and grime, detracting from the touch, feel and appearance of the device.
i'm sure it will have gorilla glass.... that seemed to be the trend with this past gen of samsung's Galaxy labeled phones
Of course we know it's got Gorilla Glass on the screen, but anyone know about the lens?
Just an FYI, I've read lots of posts by SGS owners who got scratches on the screen just by carrying the phone in their pocket. I don't doubt any of the reports by posters here, but Google "I scratched my Gorilla glass" and you might not be so confident.

[Q] N4 Scratches? Use a screen protector!

My Nexus four already has two distinct scratches on the glass areas -- one on the front, one on the back. They're very noticeable.
So, I'd be the first to say I don't treat my devices the best -- almost all my phones have a short lifetime for one reason or another. I've had the Nexus 4 though about a month, and I didn't even have a SIM card for it until yesterday. That being said, I'd still carry it on my person to get used to it. The cat has pulled it from it's charging station a couple times, making it fall about 3 feet to a concrete floor (damn cat). Other then that, use has been pretty sub-normal. When I put it in my pockets, I make it a point to not put it in the same pocket as my keys. My wallet (it generally goes in this pocket) is leather and has no metals. Sometimes it'll go in my pocket with my Galaxy Nexus -- which never once has incurred a scratch ever -- no matter how many times I put it in the keys pocket by accident over the years.
I had Invisible shield for my Galaxy Nexus, and it was so annoying because of the friction it adds and it really messed with the contrast -- I took it off -- I thought it was Gorilla Glass and never would get scratched -- I was right!
The Nexus 4 -- I took it by Invisible Shield and they didn't even have the pattern yet -- so I figured I'd wait, but this is Gorilla Glass 2, and I'm super disappointed it's already got scratches. I don't know what to do, so I guess the best thing to do is to let you guys know. I'll probably be calling Google come Monday to see if they have any options. I think I'm 3 days out of return -- I just noticed the big one on the front of my screen yesterday. Ugh.
First of all - wrong forum
Second - how can you be sure that the drops did not result in the scratches
third - I believe the first people to receive the N4 were 17th Nov 2012 so how is it that you have been using it for a month
Fourth - if your wallet has a dust particle on it, you can get scratches on the phone
mine already came with a stock front screen protector, thats normal right? not sure if the back has one either its hard to tell i have bad eyesight:silly:
Gorilla Glass is all marketing, it might be slightly stronger than normal glass but it's more prone to scratching than other screens. And drop videos show the glass will break no matter what if you drop it 5-6 feet. Only idiots at Apple would think of covering its phones with glass and only morons follow in copying such a design on their phones. LG made a poor decision on this aspect. Most cases, most people going to buy a back cover and all that shiny glass back is going to be covered anyways. So whats the point?
I had a galaxy note with gorilla glass, screen got scratched from its own damn pen!
Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Samsung Focus, Blackberry Bold 9000 not a single scratch, none of them used gorilla glass.
So when people say their gorilla glass screens got scratched, I believe them.
I just hope my Nexus 4 will remain scratch-less in 6 months.
I work in construction and had my phone since 14th of Nov well got a new one again a week and a half later from tmobile and neither have any scratches. U have to really be doing something to get scratches on it. Sand will scratch this glass. Keys and change won't only metal that is kind of hard enough to do that is nickel. Also dropping it a few times like op said will definitely do it. These phones are not scratch proof but it is hard to get scratches with normal use and in pockets. That is of course like I stated u have sand in your pockets!
Gorilla Glass (1 and 2) do not protect against ALL scratches:
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Gorilla Glass is all marketing, it might be slightly stronger than normal glass but it's more prone to scratching than other screens. And drop videos show the glass will break no matter what if you drop it 5-6 feet. Only idiots at Apple would think of covering its phones with glass and only morons follow in copying such a design on their phones. LG made a poor decision on this aspect. Most cases, most people going to buy a back cover and all that shiny glass back is going to be covered anyways. So whats the point?
I had a galaxy note with gorilla glass, screen got scratched from its own damn pen!
Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Samsung Focus, Blackberry Bold 9000 not a single scratch, none of them used gorilla glass.
So when people say their gorilla glass screens got scratched, I believe them.
I just hope my Nexus 4 will remain scratch-less in 6 months.
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Where are you getting the information that GG2 is more prone to scratches? This is bull ****. Out of many thousands of phones sold a few people complained about scratches.
The truth is that the majority of them scratched the screens and do not want to admit it. So calculate the percentiles and I think it is fairly low. So how does this translate into gg2 being easier to scratch?
I have had my phone since Thursday. I have no case or screen protector but I am careful and I clean the screen often using a cloth shami meant for glasses. I have no scratches and often carry the phone in my sweat shirt pocket.
I am not saying that I have tested the durability top much but I surely would not consider this glass easy to scratch.
Btw- I placed this phone next to 2 other devices i have both of which have fairly poor quality glass. You can easily tell this glass is much harder even just by tapping with your finger nail.
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A nuke went off and my phone melted therefore gorilla glass is bad.
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The End of Screen Protectors?

Coincidence? Note 2's Gorilla Glass 2 can't even resist a minor drop, lol.
Corning will show off Gorilla Glass 3 at CES
Three times as tough
By Carly Page
Fri Jan 04 2013, 10:06
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GLASS BLOWER Corning has revealed that it will showcase its next generation Gorilla Glass 3 at CES in Las Vegas next week, which it claims is three times as tough as its previous version.
On its website, Corning took away the air of surprise from CES, telling the world that Gorilla Glass 3 will make its debut at the show next week. It told us what we can expect from the upgraded screen protection material, saying that it will be three times more durable than its Gorilla Glass 2 technology.
With three times more toughness, the glass supposedly will show 40 percent fewer visible scratches than before and come with 50 percent more shock resistant strength - good for those who are constantly dropping their devices.
That's not all Corning has got up its sleeve for this year's CES, as the firm will also be showing off its optical fibre technology.
Wendell Weeks, the chairman, CEO and president of Corning said, "This year at CES, Corning will demonstrate its industry leadership in specialty glass and fiber optic technologies with the introduction of two products designed to enhance and extend the capabilities of consumers' favorite devices."
"These new innovations build on the increasingly important and continually evolving role of highly engineered glass technologies in delivering improved product performance and functionality through touch capabilities, protective cover glass, and device connectivity."
Corning is promising to reveal all on 7 January. We'll be at CES in Las Vegas next week.
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Coincidence? Note 2's Gorilla Glass 2 can't even resist a minor drop, lol.
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It's funny you mention this because my Note 2 has literally just dropped off a tom drum several times in row now and not a scratch. You win some, you lose some. That's with every phone by every manufacturer. Drop tests are pointless.
Its a bad state of affairs that we all spend a disproportionate amount of our time worrying about our devices glass screen.
Samsung have commited themselves to the race toward flexy OLED screens & it means (luckily for us) the current glass screens days are numbered.
What's corning gonna do when flexible screens are the norm?
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Jamolah said:
What's corning gonna do when flexible screens are the norm?
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Keep making glass dishes for the kitchen.
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winlinmac001 said:
Coincidence? Note 2's Gorilla Glass 2 can't even resist a minor drop, lol.
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who told u Gorilla Glass 2 has drop resist?
Pat. said:
Its a bad state of affairs that we all spend a disproportionate amount of our time worrying about our devices glass screen.
Samsung have commited themselves to the race toward flexy OLED screens & it means (luckily for us) the current glass screens days are numbered.
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What the hell is flexible oled gonna do? Samsung claims it will be virtually break proof and all signs are pointing towards going back to plastic. Unless they have some revolutionary mind blowing plastic, oops can't say that apple would be pissed, unless they have some.. **** it... revolutionary scratch proof plastic will the tradeoff be worth it? I am kind of mixed on the issue, but in the end if it still very tough and allows edge to edge screen protectors I am all for it. And I hope they don't have a bezeless phone like many people want. Usability nightmare waiting to happen. In case nobody has noticed, notice how big the bezels are on tablets still? Wonder why?
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I dropped mine from 1,5 meters to wood floor. Screen is cracked.
Now I'm waiting new glass...
The other day my Note II suffered it's first free fall - from 1.5 meters straight on a granite tile floor. My heart has skipped a beat but not a scratch, nothing broken, just a hardly visible dent next to the headphones jack. It that was an iphone I am sure it would have been shattered by the imact.
Now somebody tell me about flimsy plastic and how cheap the Note II feels
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and then going to be Gorilla Glass 4 then 5 then 6 then 7 and so on lol same crap
I feel even GG2 is plenty strong. 3 is really gonna rock. Here's a youtube video.
How tough is Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2? Corning puts it to the test.
I dropped my phone second day i got it.. it fell out of jacket pocket ( 1.3 + meters ) straight to wooden floor, and there was no dmg on the screen.. Just 2 minor scratches on bazel, nothing else.. Guess i was lucky...
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The glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof, as mentioned a hundred times.
That said, I believe that gorilla glass is more resistant to hairline fractures and cracks going across the glass. Whenever I see a non gorilla glass crack, it's usually across one side of the screen. I've had three gorilla glass phones, I've abused and droppes them countless of times, but never scratched more than a centimeter at most. I do believe other glasses would have caused larger cracks...
All anecdotal of course, but to me it seems this way.
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What the hell is flexible oled gonna do? Samsung claims it will be virtually break proof and all signs are pointing towards going back to plastic. Unless they have some revolutionary mind blowing plastic, oops can't say that apple would be pissed, unless they have some.. **** it... revolutionary scratch proof plastic will the tradeoff be worth it? I am kind of mixed on the issue, but in the end if it still very tough and allows edge to edge screen protectors I am all for it. And I hope they don't have a bezeless phone like many people want. Usability nightmare waiting to happen. In case nobody has noticed, notice how big the bezels are on tablets still? Wonder why?
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I'm very confident that a plastic material as in a flexible screen will be just as scratch proof as my current note screen, after all i use a screen protector & like many people, i have never had to replace a screen protector due to scratching either.
Samsungs design problems with flexible screens aren't to do with concerns of interface durability, more so to do with keeping moisture out as a laminated Organic screen is destroyed if there is moisture ingress.
Jeezo how many times do people have to told gorilla glass doesn't make the glass drop proof, it means it's scratch resistant.
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People also need to remember that a lot of phones these days have that oil-resistance coating or whatever it is to help reduce finger prints and make your finger slide across it nicely. So a lot of times the scratches people are seeing are scratches in that coating vs. the actual glass.
Also the person who mentioned about what's Corning going to do when Samsung brings out these breakable screens? Corning supplies products for all different kinds of uses. One example is in schools, where much of the glass for Science classes ie: test tubes, beakers, etc are all produced by corning.
Tomo1971 said:
Jeezo how many times do people have to told gorilla glass doesn't make the glass drop proof, it means it's scratch resistant.
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That's what I've been saying but its kinda like bullet proof vests. Sure it'll stop a couple but technically they're not bullet "proof" either.
Gorilla glass 10 wouldn't be a match for the inside of my wife's purse. The second day she had her Galaxy Nexus (with a case and screen protector), she managed to damage both. Luckily the phone is fine, but I'd rather replace screen protectors and $2 eBay cases than an entire phone or screen.
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What is the verdict or opinion on dragon tail glass? I am sure other competitors have some comparable glass, just corning has a name and reputation.
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EP2008 said:
Gorilla glass 10 wouldn't be a match for the inside of my wife's purse. The second day she had her Galaxy Nexus (with a case and screen protector), she managed to damage both. Luckily the phone is fine, but I'd rather replace screen protectors and $2 eBay cases than an entire phone or screen.
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Not only is a woman's purse a black hole where everything vanishes into oblivion, it's also a death trap for anything that can be dented or scratched!
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