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WM on Magic

Hi,
I know this can seem a bit nonesense but, do you thing it could be possible to flash a Magic with WM?
I love the Magic HW but I need WM for my work: Office, PDF, TomTom, etc.
Any ideas?
Thanks all.

I suppose it would be possible as WM usually have broader hw support, but it might be hard to use as you don't have a stylus or other pointing device. WM 6.5 might be easier to use, but I think it still requires a stylus...
There are PDF Viewers, office document-viewers (even apps for creating office documents), exchange sync, navigation software (not tomtom, but copilot and one other) for the Magic, so you should be able to stay with Android if you want to.
And so many other apps more or less useful...

No it's not possible, WM does not support capacitive touch screens. Why would you want to, really there are apps form all the things in your list.
Clinton

Multitouch keyboard???

Hi,
I just wanted to know if the HD2 has a multitouch keyboard like the iphone.
Apparently the Droid doesn't.
More info here
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/iphone-vs-droid-multitouch-keyboard-showdown-video/
Thanks

At the moment. No, the HD2 has no multi touch keyboard
This discussion has been going on from keyboard, to games ( emulators ), etc, about how to implement the multi touch, and figuring out where the hell or how HTC accesses the hardware directly ( bypassing WM ), for there multi touch pinch-zoom.

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Thanks for the quick reply.
Would really like to see this implemented somehow if possible, could make typing that little bit faster

Any update about the multi-touch keyboard? without it multi-touch, many letters are skipped if you type very fast. Is it really that hard to implement on the virtual qwerty?

I would really like to see a multitouch keyboard for HD2 too. It will be really useful. Without multitouch, typing speed is quite limited. (Don't ask me to try swype, I can type faster than swyping )
hope some devs will be willing to create one!

any update?

yes I am interested 2

This would be nice indeed!

i would pay money for a multitouch keyboard for multitouch winmo devices.

I can't believe that an experienced mobile company as HTC failed to appreciate such important feature. They even replaced the stock multi-touch keyboards on their Android phones with a single-touch version

any update?

would be awesome to have this....

From TouchPro 2 to HD 2: my opinion

Greetings here! A few months ago, when I saw the "new" touch pro 2 phone, I knew it was "THE" phone for me. Well, I must say it really was, but I just decided to try the new HD2. So, from TP2 to HD2, what can I say? Perhaps my point of view coul help some tp2 owners to choose between "I keep my tp2" or "I buy the hd2"? Here is my opinion:
1) ROM / programs / games / ect...
Well... I can't say. It's the same basically. Evertything the hd2 has, the tp2 can have (with cooked roms at least). Of course, the hd2 is much faster, and can launch many more app in the same time (much more memory). Even after some days without soft-reseting, the thing is still fast and good responding (I must say I use some taskmanager to kill apps I don't use)
2) Keyboard
I must say I write about 4-5 emails each day. The lack of physical keyboard on the hd2 was my worst fear. Well, I was quite disappointed with the hd2 software keyboard, as many people in this forum. Then I tried fingerkeyboard, it was better. Then again, I tried Touchpal, and it was MUCH better. Of course, I can't type as fast as I was used to with my tp2 but... I can type quite fast using touchpal. I can say I'm satisfied with typing on this phone.
3) Battery life
Well, 1'500 Mah for the tp2, and "only" 1'200 for the hd2. I can see the difference. But I'm not using the battery too much (average use: 30 min phone, 1 hour music, 1 hour reading / answering mails, perhaps 30 min on internet, no wi-fi, no bluetooth, and some playing with differents apps), and the hd2 can do it for 2 days without problems.
4) Screen
Is there any need to comment? 3.6' resistive VS 4.3' capacitive? The difference is HUGE!
5) Size
Well, I find that, finally, the hd2 isn't so big compared to the tp2. Much more thinner. I use my hd2 with 2 hands... but I was used to do the same with my tp2 (I didn't ever tried to use it single-handed)
6) Phone / Signal quality
It's still a phone, isn't it? I find the signal quality is the same as it was with my tp2 (flashed with the last radio). Phone quality is very good. The sound is clear and good, better (in my opinion) than on the tp2.
7) GPS
The fix is quite fast, nothing to say, I'm satisfied. Perhaps faster than it was on the tp2.
8) Windows mobile 6.5
My tp2 was 6.1 version (at least until I flashed it). I don't see much differences, and I don't care, actually. I like windows mobile. Why is that? simply because I can choose exactly what I want for my mobile phone. I mean I can choose between (at least):
* Manilla "Sense UI"
* WM6.5 Titanium (not so bad)
* SPB Mobile shell 3.5 (using it right now and quite pleased)
* PointUI Home 2 (long to test and configure, but you can do everything you want with this one. I had some lag with my tp2, but everything runs fine with the hd2)
* ...
9) Camera:
I don't think the hd2 is much better than the tp2... Well, I don't really care. If I want to take a picture, I generally use a "real" camera...
10) Keys:
There is 1 more hardware key on the hd2 (if you don't consider the tp2 hardware keyboard and on/off button). I don't really care about the key functions as I remap them all using AE Button (which I use as taskmanager mapped on a button also). I must even say AE button works better with the hd2 (no idea why... but finding which button was what on the AEB button list was harder on the tp2).
Well... I think that's all. I see many threads flaming the hd2 here, and I don't really understand why so... I decided to share my experience.
PS: Sorry for my english, it's not my main language

Thanks for sharing your experience I upgraded from Touch HD to HD2 and it was a right decision. This phone is just great.

hey mate, well I have a TP2 from work and a HD2 as my personal phone.
Some good points above but I'll add the following:
A)- The TP2 is atrociously slow with the newer 'sense' official ROM's from HTC - Seems the 1Ghz CPU really does make allot of difference when using the WM6.5 ROM's.
B)- The camera is way better than the TP2 - no flash on the TP2 for a start but the overall quality is better on the HD2....
C)- I find the TP2 bulky but thats the compromise you have to make for having a keyboard - one well worth it taking into account the excellent well spaced out keyboard on the TP2 - And I agree with you - the HD2 keyboard is quite sensitive - takes some getting used to.
The way I see it - The TP2 is an excellent business tool and the HD2 is an excellent multimedia / consumer tool. I wouldn't give up my TP2 for work use as I type on the excellent keyboard allot (using MS Communicator) but don't need it for personal use hence the HD2 is well suited for that purpose.
Usual principles apply - everyone has their personal preferences

hehe thanks for your sharing
I'll probably switch from my s710 to the hd2 (what a huge change)

• The speaker in TP2 is the double of sound volume (it has 2 speakers). You can watch films without headphones without any problem as it is very loud and clear
• The screen in TP2 is brighter than HD2 even when both are to the maximum of bright. Also TP2 by default is always in the maximum when HD2 is not to keep the weaker battery safe. The extra bright doesn’t compensate the screen size but makes easier to see it in sunlight and movies with dark-night environments
• TP2 is extremely reliable out the box, HD2 is buggy. Simply don’t try to upgrade TP2 to 6.5 than offers little new and uses more memory.
• TP2 keyboard is perfect, the best ever. HD2 is faulty but you always can train yourself to compensate it.
• TP2 touch screen is predictable; it does what you try to do. HD2 screen is unpredictable. It doesn’t really work in a lot of programs with old menus.
• HD2 browsing internet and movie player is very powerful and way ahead to TP2.
I find very handy also the tilt support of the TP2 when placed in a table. You can have the correct vision angle to see movies at same time you have the keyboard to pause, go backwards and forwards etc. When I see a movie in HD2 everything is ok except if I need to do these operations as the touch screen is not acurate and send me to any part of the movie except the one that I'm looking for.
In general I find HD2 a god with broken legs and TP2 and well rounded hero.

touchpro2 all the way
Honestly I think HD2 has some software issues and do not recomend it. Some programs that work on windows mobile 5,6,6.1, for some reasons do not work on HD2. Especially the games . Wait for an update before getting HD2.

is it for me?

Hi,
I currently have an HD2...which I do like..however I don't really know anyone who dosn't always harp on about Android.
I used to have an iphone, which has the most amazing interface and screen and thousands and thousands of apps..but..wasn't any good as a business phone.
so, I went back to my beloved WM (had an orbit, TouchPro, diamond, HD, and now HD2) which I like because of how easy it is to customise (something which is virtually impossible with the iphone). I hated Sense so I've always used SPB Mobileshell to give me the perfect screen layout (not avilable on android I know)
however, the HD2 (Leo) isn't without it's problems and the screen often drives me mad.
so...is the Nexus the phone for me?
Does it do all the business functions I need (full interface with exchange 2007 for example)? are there a growing number if apps available? can I read MS office documents?
oh..and when can I get it in the UK (sim free)
many thanks for your advice

Bluntly put, no.
Android is still very much an immature platform and, while exchange support is there, it's more of an afterthought than a feature (it's not even mentioned in release documentation).
Winmo has it's flaws, and we all know it, but we also know that (at least for us in the connected corporate world) either a blackberry but most ideally a winmo phone is the best, most reliable way to take your office with you.
Android is more of a consumer OS (it was aiming at Winmo's throat first, but since winmo pretty much undid itself, now it's going for mobile-osx), and I can tell you from using the dream that (and this is just recently with the 2.0 eclair build) that exchange support is there, but kind of shaky. Also, the options for viewing/editing office documents are very limited. There are apps that will do it, and there are better mail clients, but just the thought that Winmo includes it all out-of-the box. I think you're well suited with your HD2 (or maybe a less consumer-oriented device, I'd go for the omina or touch pro2)

perfect reply. Many thanks indeed!!
I'll stick with where I am right now then.

is the stock wp7 keyboard dual-touch?

So I'm new to the HD2 scene. I installed wp7 (mango) and have noticed some problems with typing. If I use both thumbs to type, it seems to cause problems. Is the default keyboard not able to take advantage of dual touch (since multitouch doesn't work on wp7 right?)
Regards
Smith