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Quick question about ROMs?

I recently purchased an hTY Q5, nice phone with wifi and gps. It apparently has a modified Elf ROM. In the battery compartment is written Elf 0100. There is a HTC folder and it has the HTC TouchFlo Cube. But it seems some features that the Elf has are missing on the Q5. Features which allow more customization and configuration.
I'm not a total n00b to flashing phones since I have been modding Motorola's for a couple years now. But the ROM's are new to me since this is my first WM phone.
So here's my question, I know that I cannot flash a full ROM from the Elf because it has different hardware. But what I want to do is only flash the OS, so I can recover those missing features. What part of the ROM do I flash?
Thanks!

ROM
ROM IS the OS, however, I suspect your device is not even close to being an Elf or anything similar, but is made by a Chinese company, attempting to clone various devices. It runs WM6.0 and might even claim to look like what Elf is running, but essentially, it is not an Elf, nor will it ever be. In which case I would be careful and not flash at all. Point to note: I have various WM6 and 6.1 running devices with similar specs and with cube that looks similar to Elf installed, yet none are Elf or running Elf software. The point I am trying to make is: your device may be flashable, but be very careful selecting a ROM.
Generally factory software consists of 3 parts - Radio, OS and Ext.ROM and it will flash in 3 parts but in 1 go. What you get from a developer is usually the modified OS part only.
Out of curiousity, is this the phone you bought?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17365

Wow, $200 for that?! ouch.

I didn't claim it was an Elf (Touch) and I don't want it to be either. I said it has a modified Elf Rom. I just want the full functionality of WM. And by the way, it may be Chinese made but it works excellent, especially the built in GPS.
That is the phone, but mine is quad band and has WM 6.1. Like I said, it is definently WM, not some OS clone like Jaquisoft's OS made to look like iPhone OS. And it has some of HTC's features just some have been removed, why I don't know. Maybe to free up some space. I have installed some themes already, but would like the change the way the home screen looks. I may be able to manually add those features back if I can extract a ROM from an Elf.
Here's some videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKOCz5yBVZk
Select the video tab.
http://www.china-mobile-phone.com/2008-12/q5-plus.htm

Scotsman828 said:
That is the phone, but mine is quad band and has WM 6.1. Like I said, it is definently WM, not some OS clone like Jaquisoft's OS made to look like iPhone OS. And it has some of HTC's features just some have been removed, why I don't know. Maybe to free up some space. I have installed some themes already, but would like the change the way the home screen looks. I may be able to manually add those features back if I can extract a ROM from an Elf.
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Again, ROMs are device-specific or are adapted for a particular device and your device is not Elf, so there is a possibility you will brick your phone to never work again. You don't need to extract a ROM from an Elf and some features are general WM6.1 features that will run on any device with 6.1, just look for .cab files for the features you need, it is safer than flashing the entire thing.

[Q] Some infos before flashing

Hey guys,
it's my first post here, but I'm still some days here in this board, consuming the contents for my HD2 with apreciation.
HD2 was and still is -hardwaresides- a milestone. When it comes up to the stock OS, there are some major things that I don't get. M*cr*s*fts OS is making this device a cripple, if you ask me. But that's another discussion and even more I was excited when I firstly saw a good friend these days holding me his Leo up the nose with Android embedded.
Now, I'd like to know some things before "flashing" my Leo - if you can say so, as the only thing to do seems to apply some kind of bootloader instaed of cleaning and rewriting the ROM. Which leads me to the
1. Will the installer overwrite the WM6.5 ROM or will it run in a dual-boot system?
2. Will a physical hardreset (volume-buttons) return to the stock-Rom?
3. Which of the local Froyo versions is the most stable with nearly all components working and - if possible - NO skin customizations except SENSE?
Thanks for your help and I hope that Android will bring my Leo to a whole new level.

Prepare yourself for a flaming of a lifetime.

Postaldude said:
Hey guys,
it's my first post here, but I'm still some days here in this board, consuming the contents for my HD2 with apreciation.
HD2 was and still is -hardwaresides- a milestone. When it comes up to the stock OS, there are some major things that I don't get. M*cr*s*fts OS is making this device a cripple, if you ask me. But that's another discussion and even more I was excited when I firstly saw a good friend these days holding me his Leo up the nose with Android embedded.
Now, I'd like to know some things before "flashing" my Leo - if you can say so, as the only thing to do seems to apply some kind of bootloader instaed of cleaning and rewriting the ROM. Which leads me to the
1. Will the installer overwrite the WM6.5 ROM or will it run in a dual-boot system?
2. Will a physical hardreset (volume-buttons) return to the stock-Rom?
3. Which of the local Froyo versions is the most stable with nearly all components working and - if possible - NO skin customizations except SENSE?
Thanks for your help and I hope that Android will bring my Leo to a whole new level.
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First of all, why are you afraid to spell out Microsoft?
Second, Winmo didn't cripple HD2 at all, you have fully function phone.
Now, if you put Android on this phone, this make HD2 a cripple phone.
To answer your questions
1. No, Android will not overwrite the wm 6.5 rom, it need wm to run and it runs from sd card.
2. see #1, it will not alter wm rom, wm will be wm after reboot, you dont need to hardset.
3. This is like... personal preference, you have to try to see which build is for you.
the core here is kernel, if you try this build and you have problem, and you see another the build with the same kernel, it likely not going to fix your problem.

justwonder said:
First of all, why are you afraid to spell out Microsoft?
Second, Winmo didn't cripple HD2 at all, you have fully function phone.
Now, if you put Android on this phone, this make HD2 a cripple phone.
To answer your questions
1. No, Android will not overwrite the wm 6.5 rom, it need wm to run and it runs from sd card.
2. see #1, it will not alter wm rom, wm will be wm after reboot, you dont need to hardset.
3. This is like... personal preference, you have to try to see which build is for you.
the core here is kernel, if you try this build and you have problem, and you see another the build with the same kernel, it likely not going to fix your problem.
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1. Why shouldn't I? There are enough examples, that anonymity is not given in every way these days on the web...
2. No, it did run well. But it
-isn't nearly as smooth as the iPhone-OS or Android
-HTC Sense seems to stuck several times with WM 6.5, which brings me to conclusion that HTC wasn't allowed to create a consequent GUI without corrupting MS license restrictions
-Browsers (Stock Opera, Opera 10, Opera Mini, Skyfire) are really slow
-I got a bunch of crashes even with updated stock ROMs and CF 3.5 installed
-the response between OS and touchscreen is still very laggy which results in the over-sensibility and the so-called ghost-effect, when the screenkeys begin jerking out/ the screen is working commands that had been given more than a minute along
-pinch-to-zoom only seems to be a gimmick clearly running in the SENSE environment and apps based upon it. The WM GUI isn't compatible to it in many ways
- and most important, it still is giving me white knuckles that MS at last decided to make WMP 7 NOT available, needless to say, AFTER several Leos were sold with prediction for WMP 7 being available sooner or later
Sure, you got a working OS for everydays use, but it is as unattractive and as imperformant as it could be the day it came on such a steroidic device like the HD2. MS has epicly failed in giving attention to the mobile phone market, that's for sure. It isn't done with borderless synchonization of Outlook e-mail and contacts - because todays smartphones are capabale of so much more. For something like this, you don't need a 1 GHz Snapdragon, together with 512 MB systemmemory. And after making such hard license restrictions for developers that are in charge to use WMP7, I think this won't ever change.
And sure, you're able to customize this OS as far as you want. But take the usual Jon Doe, excited by HD2-Ads and offended by an OS, that feels and looks like it is 10 years old under the SENSE-surface, with an app-catalogue that's growing slower and slower. And Jon Doe's not the man to deal with custom roms and tweaks.
Now take Android on the other hand. Based on the Linux-Kernel, which is known to give you every possible freedom, together with every possible brick to handle - which you're able to fix by yourself and what makes it attractive mostly for enthusiastics - it's a good blend of functionality ergonomics/ease-of-use. These two words together exclamated each other more or less in the past and this is one of the reasons, why Linux as a desktop-system hasn't become more popular over the years of development. Besides this, linux distributions are the fastest and most stable running OS I ever used on a PC. Now, Android is in charge and able to become as popular as MS is on desktop-systems, because it's working good. Most of the start-up problems that occured on early Droids are eliminated, this phone-OS becomes more and more performant. And it seems to be a lot more flexible than any other phone-OS
Finally, this discussion turned right the way i thought it would end. I'd like to thank you all for your information at first. If you'd like to make further dialogue affecting the goods and bads of WM, please contact me PM.

HTC Hup V 1.2 (Build 2020.36209)

so here's the question :
will it be possible to mod HTC Hup ?
or ad some extra tiles/tabs to HTC Hup .
and is there someone that can tell me how sense look (is it one app or is it something like 1000 manila files)

i dont know much about it, but i assume it will be possible, anything is possible if you work at it. Sense however is one app or "hub" as they are calling it on WP7 so im not sure how it would work but i doubt it will be just manilla files, i reckon some hard coding will be needed.

I agree, someone on here will probably re-engineer them, but what's the point?
Previous versions of the Sense UI laid over (and hid) the OS, in this case it is just another app based in a WP Hub, it will have a much more minor role.
In fact from the previews I've seen in my opinion it will be pretty useless. In the past HTC used Sense UI to give glanceable info to Windows Mobile, now that Windows Phone does this from it's core, HTC have gone in a completly opposite direction by putting on an overly animation heavy interface onto a glaceable UI!!! Now it takes 2 to 3 seconds to get into the HTC hub because of all their fancy animations.
Someone may port it to non-HTC devices or copy the latest versions (going forward Sense 3.1, 3.5, etc) onto all the phone.
I'm sure the developers here are more interested in WP7 itself rather than Sense UI which has well and truley become an animation bloatware on WP7.

actually looks like MS and HTC declared that no custom home screen will be available fot WP7 phones

ceesheim said:
so here's the question :
will it be possible to mod sense 3.0 ?
or ad some extra tiles/tabs to sense 3.0 .
and is there someone that can tell me how sense look (is it one app or is it something like 1000 manila files)
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Hi,
There are no manila files (yet).
See post #13 in the thread:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760051&page=2
Regards, ansar.

From a programmers point of view the Sense App on HTC's WP7 devices is just another app (although it seems to have the possibility to access more than regular WP7 apps built with the public tools (sound settings on the Surround and HD7).
HTC currently mainly uses it to add Weather and Stock-Updates as those are not part of the base OS.

StevieBallz said:
From a programmers point of view the Sense App on HTC's WP7 devices is just another app (although it seems to have the possibility to access more than regular WP7 apps built with the public tools (sound settings on the Surround and HD7).
HTC currently mainly uses it to add Weather and Stock-Updates as those are not part of the base OS.
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Short answer no.
Long answer:
"Sense 3.0" is based on Silverlight. Which won't run on Windows Mobile 6.5 or less.

walshieau said:
Short answer no.
Long answer:
"Sense 3.0" is based on Silverlight. Which won't run on Windows Mobile 6.5 or less.
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Well... it is just another App... although a WP7-App that won't run anywhere else - what I meant to say: I don't see why anyone would need this thing anyplace else, what it provides is little and could easily be done by just writing a simple App.

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Stay On topic please.

[GUIDE]The ULTIMATE n00bs guide to the HD2-HardSPL, Android, ROMs, Radios and more!

THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO VOTED THIS TO THE FRONT PAGE!!!
Alright people, I am making this to aggregate information for the n00bs among us. And I’m not talking about just people new to the HD2; I’m talking about TRUE WinMo n00bs, as well as people new to the HD2. This is mostly from my own research, so anyone that has anything to add please do so. This guide is meant to be super easy for ANYONE to follow along with, and as such, PLEASE read ALL the information before posting a question. At certain points in the guide you will see the following tag-[IMG(X)] where (X) is a number. When you see this tag, it means that there is an image at the bottom of the post that refers to or helps explain what the text is telling you, so please refer to those images to help you along.
Onto the guide!
Note that this guide assumes that you are using your US T-Mobile HTC HD2...on T-Mobile US service. Other carriers need not apply.
Please note that things in CAPITAL LETTERS and RED are IMPORTANT AND SHOULD BE READ. DON'T SKIP OVER STUFF!
PLEASE NOTE!!! THIS GUIDE IS !ONLY! FOR THE T-Mobile US VERSION OF THE HD2!!! DO NOT! I REPEAT !NOT! FOLLOW THE FLASHING INSTRUCTIONS IF YOU ARE USING AN INTERNATIONAL HD2! I TAKE !NO! RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE FOLLOWING THIS GUIDE!!!
CURRENT SECTIONS:
SECTION 1-ANDROID
SECTION 2-WINDOWS MOBILE
SECTION 3-WINDOWS PHONE 7
SECTION 4-INTERNET ON THE HD2
SECTION 5-PROGRAMS, HACKS AND TWEAKS
SECTION 6-GENERAL HD2 Q&A
SECTION 7-WARRANTY RETURNS
SECTION 8-MAGDLR AND NANDROID
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Section 1-ANDROID ON THE HD2 AND YOU!
Alright, this is going to be a simple, broken down, easy to understand answer to the most common Android questions.
Q1-CAN I RUN ANDROID ON MY HD2?
A1-Yes, you can.
Q2-ALRIGHT, HOW?
A-Almost all Android distros come in a folder called "Android" that you then copy to your storage card. Now, where is the most common question. The answer-to the ROOT of your storage card. The ROOT of your storage card is where all of your files begin. [IMG1] is a screenshot of my HD2 connected to my PC via USB. The icon on the left with the name of "\" is your device's internal memory, and of course "Storage Card" is your Micro SD card inserted into your device. THAT is where you will copy your Android folder to. Double click on the "Storage Card" icon and then copy the Android folder inside it. See [IMG2].
Q3-ALRIGHT I'VE DONE THAT, NOW HOW DO I RUN IT?
A-Hold on there Skippy, you need to check something first. Are you running the stock T-Mobile ROM on your phone? If so, most builds of Android WILL NOT have the proper sound support. To check which version of Windows Mobile you are running, please see the next section. If you ARE NOT running the stock ROM, OR have a build of Android that is confirmed to work on the stock ROM then you are good to go! To run Android, simply navigate to the Android folder that you copied to your storage card using File Explorer, run the CLRCAD.exe program(nothing will happen, it’s not supposed to), then run the HaRET.exe program to begin booting Android. See [IMG3] for what this looks like. For more detailed instructions please refer to your particular builds thread for more information. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC ANDROID PROBLEMS IN THIS THREAD. THEY WILL BE IGNORED.
Q4-COOL, ANDROID IS BOOTED. NOW, WHY DON I HAZ INTERNETS?!?
A-Because you have to setup your APN settings. Some builds of Android don't include the T-Mobile APN settings, and you have to enter them manually. Please refer to your builds thread for more information.
Q5-BUT WAIT, DO I NEED HARDSPL TO RUN ANDROID?
A-If you are going to be using the stock ROM and radio, no; you do not need HardSPL in order to boot Android. But since most builds of Android don't work on the stock ROM, you will need to flash HardSPL and a custom ROM in order to boot Android. Please refer to the Windows Mobile section below.
Q6-MAH PROGRAMS ARE SLOW ON ANDROID!
A-Of course they are. Android was not built to run on the HD2, all of the builds are unofficial ones that people have made in their spare time, so some programs may not work very well or at all on the HD2. Which leads into the next question...
Q7-OH NOES! BLUETOOTH/Wi-Fi/GPS/CAMERA ETC DON’T WORK! HALPS!
A-Not all builds of Android have everything working. Some don't have GPS, but have full camera. While others have no GPS but great Bluetooth, it all depends on the build and who made it. Please refer to the builds thread for more information. DO NOT POST ABOUT NON WORKING HARDWARE FEATURES IN THE GUIDE. THEY WILL BE IGNORED.
Alright, that's about it for Android I think. I will update it as I see fit. Onto WinMo!
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SECTION 2-Windows Mobile, the dyeing giant.
Lets face it people, as awesome as Windows Mobile is...its dying. I love it, and most people at XDA love WinMo (it IS what XDA was founded for after all contrary to popular belief), but it’s now overshadowed by iN00b OS, Android and pretty soon WP7...but WinMo can still be awesome! Thanks to the EXCELLENT work by the cooks at XDA, WinMo is still alive, and better than ever. Let’s get to it!
Q1-WHAT VERSION OF WINMO DO I HAVE?
A-A good question! With so many out there now, it can get a bit confusing, but never fear, it’s not hard to find out which you have. If your Start button is in the top left hand corner of your screen, you are using Windows Mobile 6.5.1 or earlier. If your Start button is on the bottom left of your screen, then you are using Windows Mobile 6.5.3 or later (maybe). To get your specific version and build numbers, simply navigate to Start->Settings->System->About. On that page at the top is displayed your OS version and build number. Please see [IMG4] for an example of what mine looks like.
Q2-KK, I'VE GOT 6.5.1, AND I WANT 6.5.3!
A-Cool, then you will need to flash a custom ROM. Doing so is relatively easy to do. But you will need some things before you start. Here's what you need:
#1-A T-Mobile US HD2 (this guide is ONLY for the US version!)
#2-A MicroUSB cable
#3-The HardSPL3 kit
#4-The ROM of your choice
#5a-If on Windows XP-Activesync
#5b-If on Windows Vista/7-Windows Sync Center-AKA Windows Mobile Device Center
HardSPL3 can be downloaded from the main section of the T-Mo LEO forums. I am not going to hotlink out of respect to the creator, and WMDC or AS can be downloaded from http://www.windowsmobile.com.
After you assemble all these components, first things first, a proper warning. BACKUP ANYTHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO LOSE BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH! Files, pictures, texts, emails...anything you don't want lost. You can either use a backup program, or move these items to your SD card. EVERYTHING ON YOUR DEVICES INTERNAL MEMORY WILL BE DELETED WHEN YOU FLASH A NEW ROM!!! PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND! Now, follow these steps to get yourself flashed with a new ROM!
#1-Install WMDC or AC.
#2-Connect your device and let it fully sync. If some windows pop up asking you to enter a device name and such, just close them. Every time you flash a new ROM you will have to go through that process again as your computer thinks that it is a new device.
#3-Once your device is connected and synced unzip HardSPL and follow the instructions in the HardSPL thread to get it applied.
#4-After HardSPL is applied, connect your device again, and then navigate to your custom ROMs folder that you downloaded earlier and run the "CustomRUU" program from within and follow the instructions. THAT'S IT! If all went well, you have now successfully flashed a new ROM onto your HD2!
Q3-BUT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I CAN'T FLASH USING USB!!!
A-Follow my man Snarksneeze's guide here in the T-Mobile HD2 forums for COMPLETE details on flashing both your ROM and radio via Micro SD card. I can't explain it any better than he does...so I'm not gonna even try!
Q4-COOL! I HAVE A NEW ROM!!! BUT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THE OLD ONE...
A-Of course it doesn't. All ROMs are different, and every cook is different. No two ROMs are ever exactly the same. Try them all out! Which leads too...
Q5-WHICH ROM IS BEST?? JUST POINT ME TO IT!!
A-Asking this question, ESPECIALLY making a new thread about it, is about the fastest way to get hated at XDA. Lemme say this nice and calm...WHICH ROM IS BEST IS A SUBJECTIVE THING. THERE IS NO ONE BEST ROM, THERE IS ONLY THE BEST ROM FOR YOUR NEEDS. PLEASE PEOPLE, WE DON'T NEED MORE THREADS ABOUT THIS!
Q6-I DON'T THINK I LIKE THIS CUSTOM ROM, CAN I GO BACK TO STOCK!!
A-Yes! You can! Simply connect your phone via USB again, download the CORRECT stock ROM for your device (look below for more info) and flash away1
Q7-CORRECT STOCK ROM? QUE?
A-The T-Mobile HD2 is NOT, IN ANY WAY, compatible with international, or other carrier ROMs. It is imperative that you ONLY flash the T-Mobile US carrier ROMs to your US HD2 or you will end up with a nice shiny brick of a device. You can find T-Mobile US HD2 carrier ROMs in the "Official ROMS" thread in the ROMs section.
Q8-WHAT ABOUT RADIOS?!
A-Radio ROMs are what control your cell radio, your GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, among other things. And they can be JUST as dangerous as custom ROMs, if not more. You CANNOT flash a radio ROM to your HD2 if it has the number (.51) in its name. CANNOT. IF you do, it will insta-brick your HD2 beyond repair. Radio ROMs that have .51 in their name are specifically for international HD2s and will not work with the T-Mobile US version. Radio ROMS flash just like regular ROMs.
Q9-MAH SPL! IT CHANGED!
A-If you flashed an official T-Mobile ROM via MicroSD, then yes, it did. When flashing via USB, your SPL is not touched. But when flashing via MicroSD, it overwrites ANY SPL you have applied, even HardSPL.
Q10-HOW DO I INSTALL PROGRAMS?
A-Windows Mobile programs generally come in a format that ends with ".cab". These files are simply installers, very similar to .exe's on your PC. To install a WinMo program, simply copy that .cab file to either your device or storage card, navigate to it using file explorer on your device and click on it. Follow the instructions and BAM, new program.
Q11-ZOMG WHY CAN'T I DOWNLOAD THE NEW OFFICIAL ROM UPDATE???? WHERE CAN I GET IT?!?
A-Because you aren't a T-Mobile customer, or because you aren't looking very hard. To make this easy for people, I have downloaded the official update, and uploaded it to Multiupload. You can download it from this link-http://www.multiupload.com/6W0HRU5PGU
Q12-I HAVE A MAC, HOW CAN I FLASH MY PHONE?
A-The RUU of course will not run under a Mac OS environment, but there are a few ways to get your phone flashed. Some users have had success using DarWINE, a Windows API emulator to run the RUU, but some have also run into problems with Mac OS not having proper RDIS drivers to recognize the device with. Other Mac users simply create a Bootcamp partition, install some flavor of Windows, and flash normally. And the third, and easiest way to flash your phone while using Mac OS, is to simply extract the ROM itself and flash it via SD card, here's how; If you download an official T-Mobile ROM it will come in the form of an .exe, which is simply a self extracting archive that extracts the ROM file itself (xxxxxx_SIGNED.nbh) and the RUU to a temporary folder on your PC, then runs the RUU and flashes your phone, then deletes the temp data. Under a Mac OS system, you can simply download this .exe, and use an archiving program such as StuffIt to un-archive the .exe and gain the raw files. StuffIt may or may not recognize the .exe as an archive, but select it anyways and it should continue. After you have extracted the files to a folder, connect your SD card to your computer through a reader of some sort, and follow the directions in Snarksneeze's stickie on how to flash a ROM via an SD card. If you downloaded a custom ROM, then you can skip the un-archiving step, and just follow the SD card flashing guide.
For right now, that's it for the WinMo section...now onto something ALOT worse...
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SECTION 3-Windows Phone 7...on the HD2?
Yes, it’s true; Windows Phone 7 CAN be installed on the HD2.
Q1-WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD A WP7 ROM?
A-By using Google. At this time, there is no OFFICIAL Cotulla release of WP7 for the HD2, likewise posting direct links to the leaked release are AGAINST the XDA rules.
Q2-WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT?
A-Because the current release hasn't been officially released to XDA yet, but only on Cotulla's personal site.
Q3-WELL, WHO IS DEVELOPING IT? CAN I HELP TEST?
A-Cotulla and his team are currently working on porting WP7 to the HD2, and if they need your help they will ask. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not bother Cotulla or his team about WP7, they are doing what they can, and if it works they will release it to the public. Not any sooner, begging for it will only make it take longer.
Q4-BUT, THE HARDWARE IS THE SAME, WHY WON'T WP7 JUST BOOT NOW?
A-Because the hardware isn't actually the same. Yes the HD7 has more or less the same specs, but the hardware itself is completely different. Different processor, different type of RAM, different storage. It’s not as simple as just hacking the RUU to work with the HD2; proper drivers have to be written first. It’s just like Android at this point.
Q5-OKAY, I HAZ WP7...BUT I CAN'T DOWNLOAD APPS!
A-No, you can't. Currently ALL WP7 devices have what is called a PVK(private key) embedded in the software, which basically acts like Windows Genuine Advantage for desktop versions of Windows.
Q6-CAN I BYPASS THIS "PVK"?
A-Not officially no. Methods do exist, but we at XDA DO NOT recommend or support them in ANY WAY. Users posting activation keys or requests for such keys will be warned.
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SECTION 4-Internet on the HD2....whatsup?
As some of you may know, it seems that T-Mobile has finally decided to close the T-Zones proxy loophole with the HD2, and force people to upgrade their plans to the 20USD or more a month mobile internet plan. It is currently unknown if this is permanent, here-say or a wives tale as the effect does not seem to be nationwide. We will just have to wait and see how it pans out.
Q1-DO I NEED AN INTERNET PLAN TO USE THE HD2?
A-It's not required in order to use the phone, but highly recommended. As with all WinMo phones, the HD2 has loads of options to be connected...streaming video, music, full desktop like browsing, IM, downloading programs, Twitter, Facebook...the works...and it all uses the internet to connect of course. You can of course use Wi-Fi with the HD2, but that will only work if you have a hotspot to connect to. While internet service isn't needed for the HD2 to function, I DEFINATELY recommend it.
Q2-DOES THE HD2 SUPPORT Wi-Fi N? OR N+?
A-Using a registry hack yes, the HD2 does indeed support Wi-Fi N. N+ is currently not supported and is unlikely to ever be supported as the HD2 lacks the hardware to do so.
Q3-UNDER NORMAL USE, HOW MANY MB OF DATA DOES THE HD2 USE A MONTH?
A-This is completely upto you. If you hardly ever use data, then very little. If you are like me, and have 4 email accounts syncing every 30 minutes, stream music with Slacker at least an hour a day, update Twitter and Facebook every now and then, and use Bing for navigation, you can EASILY use 500MB or more of data a month. I usually average about 1.2GB of downstream data a month with my kind of usage but your mileage will of course vary.
Q4-DOES THE HD2 SUPPORT HSPA? OR HSPA+?
A-Yes and yes. The HD2 does support both forms of pseudo-4G that T-Mobile is providing right now. You do not need to sign up for anything or enable anything in order to receive 4G speeds, you just need to be in an area that supports it...which leads to...
Q5-WHEN WILL I GET 4G?
A-Who knows? T-Mobile does. T-Mobile's website has a map that shows what coverage and where is provided in any given state of the US. Check it out at http://www.tmobile.com/coverage.
Q6-MY DOWNLOAD SPEEDS ARE SLOWER IN WINMO THAN IN ANDROID!
A-For some reason...yes, they probably are. For reasons that I cannot explain, nor have found an answer for, download speeds seem faster in Android than in WinMo. Go figure. I currently get 4MBps down in WinMo so I don't complain .
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SECTION 5-PROGRAMS, HACKS AND TWEAKS
So you have an HD2. AWESOME! Now, you want some cool programs to make the iTards jealous eh? AWESOME. Now, how do you get them?
Q1-I WANTS ME SOME PROGRAMS!
A-Well that's cool.
Q2-SERIOUSLY, GIVE THEM TO ME!
A-Alright, alright. There are literally hundreds of thousands of freeware programs available for Windows Mobile nowadays, and there are some great resources to find them aswell. One of the BEST places is the Opnmarket, a program that runs on your phone and connects you to the depository of programs at http://www.freewarePocketPC.net and download them straight to your device. Best of all, EVERYTHING at FPPC is, as the name implies, FREE...and so is the program! The only thing you need in order to use the program is an account at the site, which is ALSO free. Seriously, it’s a win/win/win situation. You can download Opnmarket from the main page of FPPC, and then register for an account right on your phone and start downloading. If the OpnMarket isn't your thing, then there is also the inbuilt Windows Marketplace for Mobile. The Marketplace isn't all that great in my opinion, but it does have its benefits...such as downloading free updates to Microsoft built programs. To use it simply hit Start and find the icon for Marketplace. If you are using a custom ROM and the Marketplace isn't already installed, simply search the forums for "MS Skymarket" and you should be able to find it. The third option is the new-ish XDA-Marketplace. Now right now there really isn't all that much there, and the program itself is pretty buggy, but before long I feel confident that it will become the premiere repository for XDA members to post applications. The XDA-Marketplace is where XDA members can post their work for FREE, and allow XDA members to download them...FOR FREE! See a pattern here? So far there isn't much there...so please be patient. And lastly, there is the internet...AKA, the world’s LARGEST app store. Seriously, if you need a program, fire up your nearest browser and search away, as I stated above, there are hundreds of thousands of WinMo compatible programs out there, and not all of them are available in marketplaces...so search around!
Q3-AWESOME. IVE GOT SOME PROGRAMS FROM THE INTERNET. NOW, WTF IS THE ".cab" FILE?
A-It is an installer that runs under WinMo. To install programs to your device you must first copy these .cab files onto either your storage card or internal memory and then navigate to them using File Explorer, on your device, and clicking on it. The installer will then start and ask you where to install the program. Unless specifically stated to install the program to internal memory, it’s usually best to install things to your SD card. The more free internal memory you have, generally the faster your device will run as WinMo caches to the internal memory of your device. One of the few exceptions to this is registry hacks or tweaks to internal Windows functions, if asked, go ahead and install those to main memory as installing them to your SD card usually will not yield any results.
Q4-COOL. THAT MAKES SENSE, WHAT ABOUT IF I DOWNLOAD STUFF FROM ONE OF THE MARKETS? WHERE DO THEY INSTALL?
A-If using either the OpnMarket or XDA-Marketplace, after the program is downloaded through the program, the installer will ask you where to install the program to. If using the MS Marketplace, you can change where programs default their install locations to using the Settings menu from the main page. If your storage card is full, or if a program must be installed to main memory, the Marketplace will notify you upon beginning the installation.
Q5-WELL, ARE INSTALLERS CACHED SOMEWHERE?
A-If using the OpnMarket or XDA-Marketplace...yes, they are cached on your storage card. The exact location may vary. And if using the MS Marketplace, no, the installers are not cached and are deleted once the program has been installed.
Q6-I SEE SCREENSHOTS OF PEOPLE's HOMESCREENS THAT LOOK AWESOME AND DIFFERENT THEN MINE...HOW DO I MAKE MINE LOOK THAT WAY?
A-Well that depends. There are several different homescreen replacements available for Windows Mobile. In no particular order the ones I know of and have experience with are:
#1-Titanium-The basic WinMo 6.5 homescreen, also known as "Sliding Panels Homescreen"
#2-Sense-The stock homescreen that comes with a stock ROM on the HD2, used to be known as TouchFlo3D
#3-Today Screen-The AMAZINGLY old and standard WinMo homescreen from back in the day of WinMo 2003. Hasn't changed much over the years, but can be customized with LOADS of plugins
#4-SPB Mobile Shell-A commercial app that offers alot of customization, but in my opinion a massive resource hog for what it does
#5-CHT Sense-A modification of the stock Sense homescreen that comes with your device that offers MUCH more customization than stock. What I usually use personally.
For explanations on the various homescreens, please see the next post!
Alright people, that’s it for now...more to come! Please let me know what to improve!
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SECTION 6-GENERAL HD2 Q&A
We all know that the HD2 runs WinMo, and that WinMo has its share of weirdness...but what about the device itself?
Q1-I JUST GOT A NEW HD2, AND MY RESET BUTTON IS A DIFFERENT COLOR!!!
A-Yep, hopefully it's yellow. The reset button is widely believed to be a hardware revision giveaway, IE, depending on the color is what revision of the device you have. So far 2 different colors are in circulation that we know of, those being RED and YELLOW. The HD2's that have red reset buttons seem to be revision ones, or based off of the Euro hardware, and seem to be more flaky when it comes to touchscreen quality and overall stability. For whatever reason, HD2's with red buttons seem to have touchscreens, mainly the digitizers that are more prone to failure. The second revision HD2's seem to all have yellow reset buttons and as far as we know these are the only ones being produced as of late. Yellow button models seem to be more stable hardware wise, and use a completely different motherboard and touchscreen/digitizer assembly.
Q2-HOW CAN I SIM UNLOCK MY HD2?
A-Well, if you are a T-Mobile customer, then you can do so pretty easily. Simply have an account with them in good standing for 60-90 days and call Customer Care to request an unlock code. It should be sent to your email within 48ish hours. If you are not a T-Mobile customer you can use one of the MANY sources available on the internet to SIM unlock your device...eBay usually has the best deals. Most services cost around 15USD and are instant.
Q3-OKAY I GOT MAH CODE, WHERE DO IT GOEZ?
A-Once you have your code, simply slap a different, non T-Mobile SIM into your HD2 and it will ask for the code upon reboot. If for whatever reason it doesn't ask for the code upon reboot, or you do not have another SIM handy, simply use File Explorer on your device to navigate to the \Windows folder on your phone, then scroll down near the bottom and run a program called "simlock.exe", which will then ask for the code.
Q4-ALRIGHT, MY HD2 IS UNLOCKED...BUT MY SIM ISN'T RECOGNIZED!!!
A-Are you using a prepaid SIM from a service like ATT GoPhone or TracPhone? If you are then that's why you aren't getting any signal. It is the current belief that prepaid SIM cards do not work with US HD2s, but I CANNOT 100% CONFIRM THIS. I say that they don't because of several threads here about trying to use prepaid SIMs, and getting no signal.
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SECTION 7-WARRANTY RETURNS
As much as I would like to say that it doesn't happen, the HD2 does indeed sometimes completely fail because of user error, or just plain hardware faults and must be returned to either T-Mobile or HTC. The warranty process can be a scary one, especially if you HardSPL'd your phone or installed a custom ROM. But fear not! You can get your device back to stock rather easily! In this section I am going to cover the more common HD2 failures and their solutions, as well as how to revert back to your stock carrier ROM and SPL for warranty purposes. Now, this guide assumes that you bought your HD2 from a T-Mobile store and that you are a T-Mobile USA customer. If you purchased your HD2 through an online reseller, or are not with T-Mobile USA, the only option you have is to send your device to HTC directly and have them repair it. See the bottom of this section for more info.
Q1-MY TOUCHSCREEN DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE! WHAT HAPPENED? DID SOMEONE SET ME UP THE BOMB?
A-Where you running Android? For some reason, there seems to be a connection between touchscreen failure and running Android on the HD2. No one currently knows why it happens more often under Android, but it does happen. Please run Android at your own risk. If your screen fails under WinMo, it's more than likely just a strange hardware quirk, and not because of what you are running.
Q2-OKAY WELL NOW MY SCREEN IS BAD, WHAT DO I DO FOR WARRANTY?
A-If you bought your device through a T-Mobile store and it is COMPLETELY STOCK, IE stock SPL and stock ROM, then simply take your phone up to the store you got it from(or any store for that matter) and request that they replace it because the screen seems to be faulty. Most of the time they will have no problem doing so. If your device is NOT in warranty(the warranty period is one year from purchase) you will need to call Customer Care and request they quote you a repair cost. It is usually around 120USD for a new touchscreen includeing shipping, and takes around 4 weeks round trip to be repaired.
Q3-OH NOES! I HAZ CUSTOM ROM! HALPS!
A-No worries. Reverting from a custom ROM to the T-Mobile stock is a fairly simple process, as is reverting back to the stock SPL from HardSPL, and they can be done at the same time with one process. Simply download the latest T-Mobile stock ROM(3.14 as of this writing) extract the .nbh from it and rename it LEOIMG.nbh and place it on the root of your storage card. Then place that card into your device, and start your phone whilst holding down the DOWN volume key to go into bootloader. Follow the onscreen instructions and voila! Stock ROM and SPL in one shot! You are now good to either goto a T-Mobile store and request a new device, or send it back to T-Mobile or HTC for warranty without fears of being denied or paying an extra 50USD for "software restoration".
Q4-WHAT ABOUT A CRACKED SCREEN? IS THAT COVERED?
A-No, cracked screens are NOT covered under either T-Mobile's or HTC's warranty.
Q4.5-BUT I HAVE INSURANCE!
A-Doesn't matter, T-Mobile does not cover cracked or damaged screens, of any kind, under warranty or insurance.
Q5-I BOUGHT MY HD2 THROUGH EBAY, OR FROM ANOTHER SELLER, DOES IT HAVE WARRANTY THROUGH T-MOBILE?
A-Maybe. It all depends on wether the person who bought it originally before reselling it bought it officially through T-Mobile or not. if they did, then again, maybe it does. Warranty status and eligebility also depends on whether you are a T-Mobile customer or not. If you are, then the worst they can tell you is no. Now, if it is NOT covered by T-Mobile, and is less than a year old, it MAY be covered by HTC directly. A call to HTC's warranty department is a harrowing process, so be prepared to be on the phone for at least 30 minutes before you start the call. Goto HTC's website for a phone number for your correct region.
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SECTION 8-MAGDLR AND NANDROID
What's this? MAGDLR? NANDROID? What does that mean? Quite simply friends...MAGDLR is a bootloader that allows Android to be flashed and booted directly from NAND on the HD2.
Q1-WOW! SO I CAN BOOT ANDROID AND WINMO!
A-No. You can boot either or. MAGDLR takes the place of the WinMo loader, and as such, you cannot have MAGDLR flashed and a WinMo ROM on NAND at the same time.
Q2-OKAY, HOW DO I GET IT?
A-From the Android development section. It's a sticky near the top. Be sure to download the latest version for the most compatability.
Q3-GOT IT, FLASHED IT...NOW WHAT?
A-Now, you either flash Android or WP7.
Q4-OKAY, BUT HOW!
A-Read the directions contained within the MAGDLR folder and your NANDroid distro. Basically they are all the same.
Q5-I HATE NANDROID! I WANT TO GO BAQ TO WINMO!
A-Fair enough, simply download the proper stock WinMo ROM for your device and flash it via MicroSD card. Please note that this WILL remove both MAGDLR AND HardSPL, so you will need to re-apply HardSPL if you want to then flash to a custom ROM.
SENSE-Alright. Personally, I like Sense. On the HD2, it works well. ESPECIALLY if you apply cOokies Home Tab, or CHT for short. CHT is an extension of Sense if you will, that adds TONS more functionality to it. I mean really, the customization and flexibility of CHT is HUGE. If you are using Sense, and NOT using CHT, you really owe it to yourself todo so. Once you use CHT you will never go back. It's that good. You can download it from the main HTC LEO section of the forums.
Now, Sense is referred to sometimes as Touchflo, Touchflo3D or Manilla...and essentially it is all of those. The main core of Sense is called Manilla, and it's been around for nigh on 4 years now. TF and TF3D where the older versions of Sense, and basically didn't work unless you had a super bare-bones ROM and a powerful device like the Diamond or Touch Pro, so essentially Sense is just an upgraded Touchflo...but it's also MUCH more than that. While Sense is mainly just a homescreen, its roots go throughout your device. Many times while using the HD2, you will find that Sense-looking programs or pages will often crop up, and that is what is supposed to happen. The only big thing that people don't like about Sense is that it does hog a bit of RAM...about 25MB under normal usage. Sense is everywhere on the HD2 and it's a real shame if you disable it for another homescreen...which brings us to...
TITANIUM-Ahhh Titanium. Windows Mobile 6.5.1 brought us Titanium, which I personally think is a really boss homescreen. If you have a WinMo smartphone device, you might know this as "Sliding Panel Homescreen". Titanium, for what it's worth, is very customizable through plugins and .net programs, but isn't compatible with older WM homescreen plugins. Titanium was basically Microsoft's attempt at making WinMo more finger friendly...and in a way worked, and in a way didn't. See, Titanium starts out on a panel in the middle, which is where all the panels can be interacted with, by scrolling the panels up or down, you bring one into focus at the middle of the screen and can click it, slide it left or right, hit switches on it etc. Not a great description, but hey, sue me. Anyways, the way that it didn't work was that at the time, Titanium was only on devices that had resistive screens, IE, all of them (the HD2 is still the only WinMo device with a capacitive screen) and trying to scroll up or down with your finger was often a game of over or under scrolling trying to get to the item you wanted...and made alot of people (me included) just use the d-pad instead, which kinda defeats the purpose. Titanium looks cool nonetheless, and doesn't use quite as much RAM as Sense, try it out and see for yourself.
TODAY SCREEN-If you have used a WinMo device from around 2-3 years ago, then you more than likely have use the standard WinMo Today screen. It’s basically just a list of things aggregated to your homescreen. Ugly, but functional. It's biggest plus is that it's HIGHLY customizable through the use of plugins. Now I know that I have said that about both Sense and Titanium, but the standard Today screen is BY FAR the most customizable. The reason for this of course, is because it's been around the longest. Seriously, switch over to the Today screen on your HD2. Now...imagine the year 2002...now look at your screen. THAT is what WinMo has looked like since Windows Mobile 2002. Seriously. Not a pretty sight is it? Not really, but through the use of plugins it can be INFINITELY useful. The entire point of the Today screen is to aggregate all your stuff, emails, appointments, missed calls, texts...everything, and show it to you at a quick glance, without having to drill too far into your device, or scroll around a whole lot. There are extensions and plugins for the Today screen like there are snakes in a sugar cane field, so be on the lookout!
SPB MOBILE SHELL-Ugh...SPB. Some swear by and it uses nothing else, others (like me) have always avoided it like the plague. SPB Mobile Shell is a complete UI replacement for much of WinMo, and it's also one of the few that costs. It's around 30USD, but with one purchase you get free updates and can re-download it as many times as you like. SPB not only replaces your homescreen, but your Start menu and most of the settings as well. It makes them all nice, bubbly and shiny...kinda like the iPhone. Personally, I hate the iPhone and everything about it, and as such I hate SPB. But that's not the only reason...SPB is a massive resource hog. Historically SPB has only run on advanced or high end devices, and even on the HD2 it's slow to start, slow to move around...it's just slow overall in my opinion. It does look pretty, and if that's what you want, then go with SPB. SPB can all be customized just like all the others by the use of modules...but these modules are rather few and far between, so there is not a whole lot there. But with CHT in the running for your homescreen, it's kinda hard to justify SPB nowadays, as CHT offer the same amount of customization, for free, and works better overall.
The real true beauty of Windows Mobile is how customizable it is. From things like fonts, to the pixel height of scroll bars...nearly EVERYTHING can be customized to death. All in all, it doesn't really matter what type of homescreen you choose, as they all offer the same basic core functionality, it all comes down to your preference. Do you want flashy? Functional? Stable? Choose accordingly:
HOMESCREEN MATRIX v1.0a(will one day be an inserted Excel spread, use this for now)
[X] represents a point towards the particular homescreen in a given area. [O] represents a point away.
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Today......................[X].........................[X].................FREE...............[O].....
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HTC Sense................[O].........................[O]................FREE...............[X].....
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HTC Sense w/CHT......[X].........................[X]...........DONATIONWARE......[X].....
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SPB Mobile Shell.........[O].........................[O]...........30USD PER LISC......[X].....
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Titanium...................[X].........................[O].......FREE WITH 6.5.1.........[O].....
Now eventually I am going to merge these posts together...and the formatting will be correct! And the color will eventually come back aswell. Stay tuned for more updates!

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Great Post.

Yeah man that would be awesome!

I got 2 question regarding the t-mobile hd2 because I'm thinking to buy one !
I can flesh the international HD2 custom roms that are based on tmous driver ?
If I wanna cook a my personal rom for the t-mobile HD2 the only difference between the standard hd2 and the t-mobile one is that I have to use the driver of the official t-mobile roms instead of the internation hd2 drivers right ?
Android build that boot from memory card can all be installed on t-mobile HD2 or I have to check if they are compatible with t-mobile hd2 like windows mobile ?
Sorry for all this question but I need to know those things !

light_n_roses said:
I got 2 question regarding the t-mobile hd2 because I'm thinking to buy one !
I can flesh the international HD2 custom roms that are based on tmous driver ?
If I wanna cook a my personal rom for the t-mobile HD2 the only difference between the standard hd2 and the t-mobile one is that I have to use the driver of the official t-mobile roms instead of the internation hd2 drivers right ?
Android build that boot from memory card can all be installed on t-mobile HD2 or I have to check if they are compatible with t-mobile hd2 like windows mobile ?
Sorry for all this question but I need to know those things !
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What exactly do you mean by international version? If I had a US and International HD2 I could flash the same custom rom onto both. For example Energy Rom and Chucky Roms. I would have to first change the international HD2 radio to a .50. radio due to them having a .51. radio.
If you provide me with a link to a specific rom I could say yes or now.
These rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 for the most part are compatible with both US and International HD2 devices. With the expectation of a few which are probably International stock rom dumps with a .51. radio.
Custom rom cooking is not at all an easy task. But, yes all the drivers are available online. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663 is a good source for drivers.
Just because HTC cooked a specific driver into the rom does not mean it's the best. All program / cabs and easliy be found on XDA. Take a look at my sticky and you'll see links to stock cabs that have been extracted from both US and international devices. A good example is the wifi router cab which wasn't released in the US stock rom but was included in the international stock rom. The program / cab can be used on any HD2 device.

I meant the t-mobile version of the HD2 and the standard ( or european version call it how you want ! ) of the HD2, I was asking this because in many rom here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 has been specified to not be used on the t-mobile version od the HD2 to avoid brick of the phone..
So I can use rom all rom dased on tmous rom and not the one based on the "radio" series right ?
Is there this difference also for android build or no ?

Android is universal, its only loads from the SDcard.
Can you give me a link to a rom in that thread that you shouldn't load on your phone? I want to see if you know what to look for.
For example the one that say Europe Rom....don't get that one. It's mostly the shipped roms that come with a radio already installed.
If it makes you feel better here the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=624 to what should be an only USA rom thread.

yea I have checked now and it seems that almost all rom are compatible...maybe I have had the bad luck to find one of the few ones that are not compatible the last time I checked...the onyl big problems seems to be the HD2 with 1 GB rom from t-mobile..

plz xplain about USB host, we are all confused

Ok can someone please explain why wp7can run on hd2 but not on desire or sgs
you said it ur self that drivers will have to be written for hd2 because the hardware isnt actually the same so isnt that the case for desire and sgs write new drivers and it should work
i am not an expert and iam not saying give me wp7on my sgs
but i just want to know the reason why it cant be run on other devices
please explain and thanks.
Ps also not saying i wouldnt appreciate wp7 on sgs but it needs to have android working well first

I have a very strange problem and if anyone could help me I'd very much appreciate it as I can't find anything similar in the forums (with a solution) after a month of searching.
My HD2 has HardSPL3 and the ChuckyDroid ROM with Android on an SDCard.
The USB connector on the handset has stopped working (the metal D-shape thing wobbles about) so I cannot flash a ROM to it via the ROM Update Utility, only by the LEOIMG.nbh on an SDCard method works.
I need to send the handset back to Vodafone for a warranty repair, but obviously having HSPL3 and a custom WM ROM invalidates my warranty so I need to flash the stock ROM back to the phone to remove them both.
Problem is that I can flash any custom ROM I find to the handset using the SDCard method (Except Energy ROM's for some reason) but when I try to flash the stock Vodafone ROM using this method it fails to start the phones flash routine.
So I'm stuck with a phone I can't charge (using desktop charger for the battery atm) and I can't send back for repair.
Any ideas?????
Thanks in advance!

faresmasouty said:
Ok can someone please explain why wp7can run on hd2 but not on desire or sgs
you said it ur self that drivers will have to be written for hd2 because the hardware isnt actually the same so isnt that the case for desire and sgs write new drivers and it should work
i am not an expert and iam not saying give me wp7on my sgs
but i just want to know the reason why it cant be run on other devices
please explain and thanks.
Ps also not saying i wouldnt appreciate wp7 on sgs but it needs to have android working well first
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ok so your answer in simple words is NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS IMPOSSIBLE
of course it is possible to have wp7 running on any of the devices , android running on any device, iphone os running on any devices .. provided there are thousands of dedicated developers working on it...
when you see android running on the galaxy s or the desire there are thousands of people which these big companies hire to work for them and develop the operating systems and make it 100% compatible for running on that device
so if you want wp7 to run on samsung galaxy s or any other device its very simple.. hire thousand developers and give them this job of making it compatible for any device u wish simple as that.
the bottom line:- the people who make so many great builds, custom roms, android roms compatible for our devices put hours and months in making their roms .. and thats why please give them respect by not asking such silly questions....

nlo said:
I have a very strange problem and if anyone could help me I'd very much appreciate it as I can't find anything similar in the forums (with a solution) after a month of searching.
My HD2 has HardSPL3 and the ChuckyDroid ROM with Android on an SDCard.
The USB connector on the handset has stopped working (the metal D-shape thing wobbles about) so I cannot flash a ROM to it via the ROM Update Utility, only by the LEOIMG.nbh on an SDCard method works.
I need to send the handset back to Vodafone for a warranty repair, but obviously having HSPL3 and a custom WM ROM invalidates my warranty so I need to flash the stock ROM back to the phone to remove them both.
Problem is that I can flash any custom ROM I find to the handset using the SDCard method (Except Energy ROM's for some reason) but when I try to flash the stock Vodafone ROM using this method it fails to start the phones flash routine.
So I'm stuck with a phone I can't charge (using desktop charger for the battery atm) and I can't send back for repair.
Any ideas?????
Thanks in advance!
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ohhh.... thats really a tricky situation .. may be open up a new thread so that some of the experienced dev's can help u out ..
just copy the whole thing and put it in a new thread.. cozz this post could go unnoticed ...

devabhishek said:
ohhh.... thats really a tricky situation .. may be open up a new thread so that some of the experienced dev's can help u out ..
just copy the whole thing and put it in a new thread.. cozz this post could go unnoticed ...
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Ok, will do.
Any suggestions on which would be the best forum section to post it in?
Thanks!

nlo said:
Ok, will do.
Any suggestions on which would be the best forum section to post it in?
Thanks!
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This one cuz it has more traffic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
Have you tried cleaning your usb ports with a toothbrush? Turn off the computer before doing so.

My question is this.
I have the US T-Mo HTC HD 2 of course. Running a Nexus One Android ROM on it.
How do I go about modifying it? Do I have to use the Nexus One themes and apps? Where and how do I install my tweaks?

What kind of tweaks? I've never hear of any tweaks being available for only one certain build.
Tweak away.

ddgarcia05 said:
What kind of tweaks? I've never hear of any tweaks being available for only one certain build.
Tweak away.
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Icons, clocks, taskbar, colorize the black & white stuff....etc
My reasoning is that since it's a N1 based ROM I figured I needed N1 themes.
And as far as tweaking where do I place it on my sd card?

Helpp Needed !!!! :)

hey there guys.,
i got a new Samsung B6520 Omnia Pro 5 ( running Windows Standard 6.5) a couple of days back.
It's basically a non touch phone( 320 x 240 pixels, 2.4 inches, QWERTY) and I'm looking for apps / themes/ and stuff in general for my phone.
i tried looking around the forum, but in vain.. so somebody Plzzzzz help...!!
i really think i made a mistake getting a WinMo
~Hbk~

Return it......... get an Android based phone the problem with the 6.5 it will not update to win7 so this op system is a dead horse. Sorry but yes you did make a mistake.

If you were going WM then you should have gotten a touch screen phone, there are loads of themes etc to try, or you could have installed SPB MS3.5 and had the best OS and interface a business/general use phone can have at the moment.
If you wanted games though, as oka1 said, android is better suited while still managing to be an ok business phone (htc sense makes this better I've found)

From an applications developer's point of view, programming for WinMo Standard can be a bit of a pain. You have to decide whether or not your program is going to run on it, or not, at design time. It may end up as a completely different release of the program.
Having said that, it is possible to make a single .exe run on both WinMo Professional and Standard, but the program has to look at which platform it is running on, and then behave accordingly. On WinMo Standard, there is no Touchscreen/Mouseclick input, only the keyboard and the D-Pad/Enter buttons. The interface has to be designed to work with both from the outset, or both interfaces must be included in the same program, then it decides and uses the correct one at runtime.
It can be done but it is a lot of extra effort. As an example try the 5x5 or Peg Solitaire puzzles in the signature below.

thanks for the inputs guys
i really wish some one could just write a program to port android onto a windows phone keeping in mind the hardware changes too. ..
But my question is, " When we are seamlessly able to install / un-install OS's on our desktops/ laptops, why not on a mobile phone?!"
I REALLY think mobile phone manufacturers should give the consumers that flexibility to chose what OS they'd want running on their devices. .
Who knows?! maybe they'd think on these lines in the future perhaps?
~Hbk~

Get a HTC HD2, it can run WM, WP7 (why you'd want to I don't know), Android, Win95, Win98, Ubuntu and a few others.

ya get HTC its awesome machine and it also works on each and every window whatever it is window vista or whatever it window 7.. ya YOu made a mistake but now dont waste time if you want winpro

I really hope some philanthropic people come forward and donate what ever they can..
Coz i really can't afford an Android right now..
I shall officially kick start "Project Andriod 2.2" A Donation Drive to help people who are stuck with symbian/winmo and want a serious upgrade to ANDROID..
~HbK~

I shall post the default/original wallpapers of Samsung B6520 Omnia here in this thread later..