Epic SE design. - XPERIA X10 General

I just noticed how epicly sneakily SE are in designing their product.
Epic love heart ftw. Anybody got anymore to share??
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Hahaha!!! thats awesome spotting mate!!
thats just plain clever, and i bet they did that on purpose

Congratulations for discovering the hot water...

although you would think at first it is just for design its actually a waste reduction system, you can have a sheet of plastic with them all under each other and no issues with massive waste.

also it means they'll probably mould as the heart shape then slice down the middle hence the symmetrical design

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Does it have to stick out like that?

I really couldn't be happier with my EVO(upgrading from a G1 and T-Mobile's less than impressive data network), but it does have it's flaws. None of which would ever keep me from buying one. Probably my biggest complaint is the styling of the rear camera. It just sticks out way too far in my opinion. It wouldn't be so bad if the actual lens cover was recessed a bit more. I really didnt want thicken the phone up with a plastic or sillicone case. I'm wondering if adding something to the bezel like a washer of some sort, would obstruct the camera when taking video or pictures. Just something I thought I'd throw out there.
that's what she said.
(sorry)
dglowe343 said:
I'm wondering if adding something to the bezel like a washer of some sort,
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Yeah that sounds good!....LOL..what?
There isn't much to say about it to be honest. This is how the Evo was designed and I doubt HTC will make any changes to future models. You know it sticks out like this so best thing you can do is either place it on a delicate surface or just have it with the kickstand on.
The camera on the HTC/Google Nexus One sticks out the same way. On both phones, the speakerphone speaker is right next to the camera lens. My theory for the Nexus One was that they did this intentionally so that the camera bezel would also serve as a way to elevate the speaker a little bit off the desktop to keep it from being muffled sounding when laid directly on the desk. Seems to be same with the EVO.
The only other reason would be they just couldn't get the optics on such a big lens into any thinner a space and rather than thicken the whole phone they just let it stick out. THIN IS IN these days.
I agree, after my G1, thin is a welcomed feature. I guess nothing's perfect. I'm just glad I never got an iPhone.
dglowe343 said:
I agree, after my G1, thin is a welcomed feature. I guess nothing's perfect. I'm just glad I never got an iPhone.
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I've got every model of the iPhone, including the iP4 -it's an impressive piece of hardware, the screen is absolutely gorgeous, really. There's just something about it that's so crisp and easy on the eyes. I still prefer the bigger screens of the N1 and EVO. A 4" iPhone screen would probably be the best thing you could own. Apple screwed up, in my opinion, sticking with the 3.5" screen
re: thin, the new iPhone is too thin for my big hands. It's not comfortable to hold because of its thin form factor with squared edges.
The camera on it takes amazing pictures, right off the camera, they look much better color-wise than the EVO's, but I imagine you could tweak the EVO's pics with photoshop or the like. You have to give Apple credit for getting such a nice camera into such a thin package - at least there's no nipple on the back of the phone.
Software-wise, Android just blows away the iPhone OS in every way. No comparison. Putting up with a nipple on the back of the phone is a small price to pay for all the Android goodness that comes with the EVO and it's like.
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Software-wise, Android just blows away the iPhone OS in every way. No comparison. Putting up with a nipple on the back of the phone is a small price to pay for all the Android goodness that comes with the EVO and it's like.
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well said. the iPhone is an amazing piece of hardware. but the screen is too small (although i didn't think so before I owned the EVO). and the android o/s does blow it out of the water, at least for us power users/phone dorks. iOS is still better for noobs, and probably always will be.
healthpellets said:
that's what she said.
(sorry)
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LMAO!
OneStepAhead said:
well said. the iPhone is an amazing piece of hardware. but the screen is too small (although i didn't think so before I owned the EVO). and the android o/s does blow it out of the water, at least for us power users/phone dorks. iOS is still better for noobs, and probably always will be.
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EXACTLY correct, on all points.

Has anyone picked up an iPhone lately

After having the note for almost 3 months the stupid iPhone feels like a little toy
I saw a iPhone case at the store the other day and thought is that for a kids toy but it was real ha ha I love this phone
Sorry apple
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Actually I have an iPod touch and that's what it is, it's a toy. Even though it has better APIs than Blackberry, I still felt more productive using a Blackberry than iOS. Now Android is the killer of the three!! And the Note is just so awesome it makes EVERYTHING else a toy
bulky & heavy
I tries a mate's iPhone on Friday. it was very heavy, compared to the Note, and very small.
He had a largish case around it wiuth a backup battery built in. Great idea, but the whole thing was quite bulky compared to the Note.
Why were we comparing? He was going to buy a Note (ever since he saw mine), and wanted to swap to play with it
This is the best phone ever
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trea916 said:
After having the note for almost 3 months the stupid iPhone feels like a little toy
I saw a iPhone case at the store the other day and thought is that for a kids toy but it was real ha ha I love this phone
Sorry apple
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Fully agree. My wife wanted an iphone 4s so got her one. I am not impressed at over priced and over rated. And yes it does feel like a toy.
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I put a screen protector on my wife Iphone yesterday and drop it because it so small and heavy.
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I love the solid feeling that my iPhone gives me, the glass and the steel lead the user into thinking and feeling as though it is a premium product. This is one of the genius of Apple. Make people feel something for their device, and you will sell a ton.
I love my Note, but it feels so flimsy and cheap compared to my iPhone 4(jailbroken). I love how the software is designed over iOS, and though it is more limited without my jailbreak, most of my non tech friends would never make use of the extra anyway.
Battery life is about the same. The Note is the first Android Phone that can compete with the iPhone 4 in terms of battery life.(Though now the MaXX can too I guess) but they of course have almost double the battery size(though they needs it with the larger screens and the 4g radio in the Max's case)
While my friends do marvel at the size of the Note, they do see that unless they have large hands like me, they can't use it with one hand. This is usually a deal breaker. Especially for the ladies.
My Note is my everyday phone. But when I go out to the clubs, or on a date, the iPhone goes with me sans a case.
Whenever I try my girlfriends iPhone I almost laugh at how bad the screen is compared to my note. Feels like it's no contrast whatsoever.
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My daughter just upgraded to the iphone 4s and she asked me to sell her iphone 3GS. I was resetting it etc and could not believe that people put up with that tiny screen just to have a iphone. No way!
Spartan2x said:
I love the solid feeling that my iPhone gives me, the glass and the steel lead the user into thinking and feeling as though it is a premium product. This is one of the genius of Apple. Make people feel something for their device, and you will sell a ton.
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http://youtu.be/elKxgsrJFhw
Watch that .. then tell me youre still reassured by that "solid feeling" Cant wait to get my note and show up all my iphone fan friends, This fedex truck needs to drive faster
I bought my Note a few days ago switching front an iphone4. after using the Note for 1 day i picked up the iphone and it was so tiny i was squinting looking at that miniature screen. So glad I've got the fab Note now
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http://youtu.be/elKxgsrJFhw
Watch that .. then tell me youre still reassured by that "solid feeling" Cant wait to get my note and show up all my iphone fan friends, This fedex truck needs to drive faster
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Read my Post, SOLID FEELING. Just because something feels solid does not mean it will hold up better on a drop. In-fact the more rigid a material is, the more likely it will bust when impacted. Such as Glass vs Plastic. But in the hand, the FEELING of glass is far more pleasing than Plastic. I often handle my phones as I would pass a coin from finger to finger as in fiddling motion. The Note creeks and bends as I do that, the iPhone is solid and non-yielding.
I don't drop my phones. And If I did, that's why I have a square trade warranty. on both.
Thank you, for making my point.
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After having the note for almost 3 months the stupid iPhone feels like a little toy
I saw a iPhone case at the store the other day and thought is that for a kids toy but it was real ha ha I love this phone
Sorry apple
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Common IOS is not that bad especially if its jailbroken its awesome i personally think they both are awesome they both have there ups and downs
A friend showed me her smashed iphone 3g the other day.
It was smashed and held together with sticky tape.
I had to laugh.
She is waiting for her 4S to arrive.
I offered to smash it for her.

About that replaceable plastic (Sammy) vs unibody (HTC) thing...

First of all I have to say, the Samsung Galaxy S3 looks veeeery good to me.
You want to know why?
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
2. Plastic, it's very sturdy and therefore less damage can happen when it's dropped e.g. to the floor. Drop an iPhone/HTC and get ready to call the service line.
3. Weight, plastic is the way to go if you want a thin and light phone. Some people here sound as if they would like a flipping phone made out of solid osmium (heaviest of all metals)
4. Replaceable components, seriously guys, UNIBODY MY ASS, I want to be able to replace the battery without having to send it to Samsung and wait for the service to fix it. On top of that Unibody doesn't allow you to buy a bigger battery for your phone (though I think the stock 2100 mAh already is good!)
And no SD Card slot like the HTC One X? LOL.
5. Sorry for my english
Those being just some arguments which definately make reasonable why Sammy doesn't choose as same path as HTC/Apple.
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
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I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Talking about similarities, just a couple of days ago I found this article very amusing..
Plastic is a terrible conductor of heat.
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Nice talk.you are a genius.like your points
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edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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Agreed. I personally like the back cover of the Galaxy Nexus. I'm not a fan of high gloss. Some kind of texture would would have been nice.
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Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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It's only a bit of plastic on the back that I'm sure you'll be able to buy third party ones.
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The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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You can surely find lots of interesting faceplates and back covers for the SIII, even my Galaxy Ace has tons of awesome looking designs on a design store in an Indian Website(that's in english)
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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me too.
rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
i find it amusing that people think samsung doesnt use metal. the screen is bonded to a cast frame presumably aluminum but maybe magnesium on all the phones i have repaired. remove the battery and scrape the black area underneath with a sharp metal object if you dont believe me. the plastic they use is not only tough and fracture resistant but it's pretty much superficial.
now im sure htc has improved their designs but the evo was toy like in construction. thin cheap plastics and the pcb was a thin single layer design and the copper traces could easily seperate from the board. also the one i repaired had cold solder joints and the spring contacts they used in place or cables were falling off the board.
samsung does things that are frustrating from a development point of view but i never agreed with the quality argument.
well i'm looking forward to the s3 for the audio mostly. but i want to see what challenges the hardware offers aosp development. though i like touch wiz i dont expect samsung to support the device for more than 1 or 2 major updates. i have learned my lesson and will only buy the us version if it is the same hardware profile as the international version. and ill only buy an s3 if the bt and other hardware are aosp friendly.
Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Or this. Yours for only $89.
rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
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It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
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German cars do have a better quality , I know from experience. But I get your point its how you use the material.
I think the plastic on the back of my galaxy nexus feels great .
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I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
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I'm sure they will make a back that's matt just like the hox
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Yep replacement battery all the way!

PhoneArena Galaxy SIII Preview - 26 minutes !!

I think this video answers most of the discussions here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1VgsO-LC8&feature=g-u-u
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great video! thanks for sharing.
notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
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soraxd said:
anyway, great video, flash performance is amazing
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I think I won't need any third party browser anymore.
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If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.
the device dosent shows any sign of pebble blue in the whole video and no symptoms of brushed finish too!! nice...
ph00ny said:
If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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He says it in the video too - lol
Fairly annoying but he was honest in the review.
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Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.
It's good to be ambidex ^_^
1 word...
ANNOYING
If you want to be really annoyed, watch their HOX vs iphone test.
Obviously this guy has to learn how to operate a man sized phone.
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Yeah this guy is rearly a hardcore Iphone fanboy, I dont like his reviews and tests cause he is not objective at all. He was trying rearly hard to find something to criticize on and than mention that every minute, he seems very annoyed that this device is better than the Iphone...
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His problem is that he's a lefty and is used to a 3.5" screen.
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im a lefty. i used SGS2 and had no issues.
barondebxl said:
Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.
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I agree,
He sounds very condescending at times, lots of "obviously" and "of course". And his tone is terrible. Surely they can find someone with more ability than this dude?
JD
Killa357 said:
Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.
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stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!
Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
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stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!
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I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.
Very annoying. Love the phone. Plastic back is better for radio signal. Drop a plastic backed phone and you will get back a scratched but still very much working phone not like a glass backed device. Very easy to tell an I-Phone fan boy. Could not watch or listen to entire video due to the annoying Fan Boy.
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tolis626 said:
Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.
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phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S
soraxd said:
notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
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I do not think that because something else will change with the camera
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phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S
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This was John V or something.
Well,they are a really good site in fact.They may not have all the stuff Anandtech does,nor do they publish everything new instantly like SlashGear,Engagdet etc,but they do it all and do it well(Does that sound somehow...? ).I prefer them for my everyday mobile tech news reading.
EDIT:****,I must have my ears checked.He is Ray.John isn't the fanboy.I confused the voices and thought John was the annoying one.

Galaxy S III, Number 1 phone in the world!

I apologies if this has been posted already ( have t been in this forum for a while) but I just read tip his on CNN.com and was super happy.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/08/tech/mobile/samsung-galaxy-iphone/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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Not surprised at all. Apple used to be innovative, but now all they do is steal ideas and sue people for PR purposes.
Well deserved.
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Due to this rush samsung made couple of bad quality phones too :/
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barondebxl said:
I apologies if this has been posted already ( have t been in this forum for a while) but I just read tip his on CNN.com and was super happy.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/08/tech/mobile/samsung-galaxy-iphone/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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to be quite honest, its just a quarterly thing. apple, like always will race ahead by the end of this quarter.
on the other hand, samsung should start focusing on build quality, i feel their design is degrading with every flagship. Samsung, if you are listening, we are proud with your achievement, your innovation on the s/w front but please for the love of your customers, give us something beautiful to hold.
having said that, i love my GS3
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to be quite honest, its just a quarterly thing. apple, like always will race ahead by the end of this quarter.
on the other hand, samsung should start focusing on build quality, i feel their design is degrading with every flagship. Samsung, if you are listening, we are proud with your achievement, your innovation on the s/w front but please for the love of your customers, give us something beautiful to hold.
having said that, i love my GS3
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I agree with you, in my country the price of used S3 dropped significantly, and a friend who is going to sell his phone find it difficult to sell S3. That doesn't happen with iphone. Having said that also, I love my S3 too
Meh, might be number 1, but it's not the best phone.
tbh I've had mine for 5 months and i'm already getting ready for a change, the S2 felt good in the hand, but this phone, just feels like cheap plastic crap, the bezels are painted when the s2 had a chrome effect bezel which added a lot more stylem I have no love for this phone after the honeymoon period. Next phone won't be Samsung even if it is a Android
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Meh, might be number 1, but it's not the best phone.
tbh I've had mine for 5 months and i'm already getting ready for a change, the S2 felt good in the hand, but this phone, just feels like cheap plastic crap, the bezels are painted when the s2 had a chrome effect bezel which added a lot more stylem I have no love for this phone after the honeymoon period. Next phone won't be Samsung even if it is a Android
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I'm sorry for you man, I f*cking love mine.. feels quality in the hand, and flies through any task I throw at it.

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