So i've compared the myfroyo6 which gives 1k+ quadrant scores , and the CM6 RC1 build.prop... and they're pretty much the SAME
they both have the media.stagefright enabled and i went line by line... i even copied over build.prop to CM6 and reflashed... and still get 500 or so scores on quadrant...
the theory behind the stagefright or build.prop in general is wrong.
javolin13 said:
So i've compared the myfroyo6 which gives 1k+ quadrant scores , and the CM6 RC1 build.prop... and they're pretty much the SAME
they both have the media.stagefright enabled and i went line by line... i even copied over build.prop to CM6 and reflashed... and still get 500 or so scores on quadrant...
the theory behind the stagefright or build.prop in general is wrong.
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There are probably some other things that are diff in CM6, try looking around in the settings.
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Ok so the benchmarks on youtube I have been seeing for evo is average around 8 MFLOPS on linpack and 400 or below for quadrant.. When I get around 1166 for quadrant and 32-34 MFLOPS on linpack.. How is this because they do this testing evo with one or more devices and im on stock froyo.. Anyone have numbers for stock or overclocked or rooted? Just would like to see some numbers to compare..
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2.2 increased linpaq scores because it is not JIT enabled. Also speeds up other benchmark tools.
also do a search for neifs rom comparison chart that is posted somewhere here.
engagedtosmile said:
2.2 increased linpaq scores because it is not JIT enabled. Also speeds up other benchmark tools.
also do a search for neifs rom comparison chart that is posted somewhere here.
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Will do thanks
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Just did a linpack scan on my JG1 flashed SGS running Lagfix and got a score of 8 Mflops. Is this is a good / bad score?
What are your scores?
8.2Mflops or so on JM5. I don't think anything other than JIT (in 2.2) is going to increase that; lag fixes certainly won't change it.
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8.2Mflops or so on JM5. I don't think anything other than JIT (in 2.2) is going to increase that; lag fixes certainly won't change it.
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Sorry but I keep seeing JIT everywhere, anybody care to explain what it stands for and how it all relates to awesomeness (thanks)
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Sorry but I keep seeing JIT everywhere, anybody care to explain what it stands for and how it all relates to awesomeness (thanks)
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JIT Just IN Time
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its not in xxjp3 yet ha? or is it?
Also, keep in mind that Linpack is a synthetic benchmark and doesn't accurately reflect real performance. In fact, code like Linpacks will probably receive the biggest gain from JIT (more than real programs).
I'm using the I9000XXJP2 firmware and I think JIT is broken but I've been getting scores of 13.9 mflops with the lag fix installed!
I don't think it is broken but the dalvik files are not compiled to use ARM v7, cortex a8, or neon optimization.
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So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
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So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
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I may be wrong but quadrant:
1) Isn't the best way to base performance
2) Doesn't really show improvements that JIT provides
Download linpack if you want and your score should be around a 14 or so, compared to the 8.5-9 on 2.1
Quadrant isn't a real life benchmark, and is highly flawed. Check out Quantum's "warp speed edition" ROM for proof.
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I got 1205 with stock dk28 but I have noticed others reporting lower scores. Variability in testing with a bad benchmark perhaps?
I've got 1839 lol... For some reason I doubt that's accurate
I did a quadrant test with a stock epic 2.1 and an epic on dk28 and the scores were pretty much the same every time. The major difference was that the Froyo epic ran the cpu benchmarks much faster but hung during the first I/O test. The 2.1 epic ran everything about the same speed and completed the whole test much faster than the froyo epic.
I also noticed this and posted in another thread...
to quote myself
I was getting around 8.3xx in 2.1, and now I'm getting 13.7xx in 2.2.
(I used the 1506bdf2e04b.update-SPH-D700_DI18ToDK28.zip renamed to update.zip method.)
Saw a video the other day showing a nexus 1 scoring 20+ on 1st run and 40+ on 2nd.. My friends Evo (with 2.2) scored @ 38 or so..
Quadrant still shows me well under all of the 2.2+ phones listed.
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I expected a bit more of an increase..
I too am wondering if the JIT was left out of our Froyo (if that's even possible, I'm still a total nube to andriod stuff).
What exactly is JIT, does it speed the phone up?
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Just In Time compiling...
From what I know about .Net (I'm a C# coder), it allows for compilation of the app for the specific CPU during the 1st run.
Someone please correct me if this differes from andriod's JIT...
the epic has fast computation hw between the cpu and gpu, it could be the case that the JIT benefit doesn't show in the benchmark margins.
the device is a fast one, all compared.
Samfirmware "speed test" Nexus S vs Galaxy S "credibility" of samfirmware
Not much to say to it really. But with this I lost any last drop of "faith" I had for them, even after the fiasco with the latest JVK.
http://goo.gl/t3uik
Are they joking? I mean, late 1 april joke? (link to the youtube video http://goo.gl/3ADAD )
For those that wont understand what I am saying with this:
1. quadrant cant be used to test the "real" speed or "user experience" its completely irrelevant. (look up threads about it)
2. they compared 2 different filesystems rfs4 vs ext4 .
The test and samfirmware along with it is a joke
(If its already here, erase me , if I got into the wrong forum do the same )
very true!
once the video started, and that guy clicked run benchmark, i did the same with my phone and it ended up completing only a second later than the nexus s.. besides i am on 2.2.1 wheras the nexus one was 2.3.3.. very strange?? but if u overlook the speed of completing the test, the scores were correct. that is purely because of the crappy touch wiz....but this does not in any way mean that nexus s was faster in reality.. and hey did u check the colours in galaxy s compared to nexus s.. i mean both have the same screen but it did not seem that way, probably the nexus s used for the display was super lcd..!
Well I meant with this test that samfirmware should know better as to compare rfs with ext4.
The Samsung Galaxy S has rfs compared to ext4 to the nexus S. The filesystem itself will give another score in the "benchmark". But this benchmark cant be used as a reference. NOT even comparing speed on one phone. Look up threads about it.
And yeah the colors look better on SGS,but thats irrelevant too
Why RFS is on Samsung Galaxy S ??????????????????????????
Noticed that the Colors on Gingerbread version of Nexus S look a bit off. White looks Yellowish. Noticed this with CM7.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/nexus-s-2-3-3-update-adjusts-screens-color-temperature-we-go-e/
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Why RFS is on Samsung Galaxy S ??????????????????????????
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ive tried ext4 on my 2.3.3 and its not as smooth... im now using stock and its much smoother.
my phone is faster and smoother than my old froyo 2100 quadrant setup - yet scores 980 on avg on quadrant.
ive already left a few comments on that samfirmware post.
enable jit and add ext4 to samsung galaxy s, which is a match to the nexus s and the galaxy s wins by some distance.
2300 - galaxy s with jit enabled and ext4
1800 - nexus s
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...enable jit...
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Thing is JIT is enabled on JVK (and I think since froyo roms). Dunno why some ppl thing its still disabled
the build.prop line that everyone is tweaking is the one with stagefright to tweak/hack the quadrant score. (it pushes the score from 1600-1700 above 2000)
But funny their comment to me:
We just test both phones on his speed.
Its only a show how slow Samsungs own software is when you compare this with a clean Google rom. like the Nexus S.
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@Samfirmware ITS NOT A SPEED TEST! Its testing books with tanks....
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i am running stock xxjvk, rooted with cf-root 2.7.
started the benchmark at the same time, finished it 13 seconds BEFORE GOOGLE NEXUS S, 990 points ).
It's clear that the SGS they are using have an issue when I/O test get stuck there at 0/4 for a long time, however, change this line in build.prop from :
media.stagefright.enable-player=false
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And your quadrant score will be 1600-1700 points, now install the hacked kernel by supercurio and enable ext4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975349 and see your device score 2400-2500 if not more.
Samfirmware have proved again that they mean as much as a Quadrant score in a worthless comparison that is only meant to promote Nexus S against Galaxy S, even though that we all know that they are mainly the same device.
Thanks to PAGOT for this find
Quadrant means nothing, in my desire I had about 3000pts, on my galaxy s about 2400pts but the galaxy is quicker when you use it..
I know that you all say quadrant score means nothing, or maybe it's just sgs owners that say that (ducks for cover ;-)
...but if you go over to the Droid X forum, there is a video review of a Droid X with Gingerbread and it clearly shows that the Droid X Quadrant score is doubled with Gingerbread and the phone looks really speedy on the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=339bnvTQ87g
Can anyone explain this?
nice ginger on droid x look faster than my Froyo on galaxy
Oh yeah, and just FYI, I though that the samfirmware video review was absolute rubbish too.
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I know that you all say quadrant score means nothing, or maybe it's just sgs owners that say that (ducks for cover ;-)
...but if you go over to the Droid X forum, there is a video review of a Droid X with Gingerbread and it clearly shows that the Droid X Quadrant score is doubled with Gingerbread and the phone looks really speedy on the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=339bnvTQ87g
Can anyone explain this?
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The topic of this thread is about comparing to devices which are pretty much similar to each other, both have Gingerbread 2.3.3 installed but they have installed ext4 on one of them and left the other with RFS, beside that the SGS gets stuck on I/O test which is clearly indicate a problem with SGS which non of us have while running quadrant...this comparison is worthless..this is my opinion.
Although this is pretty much off-topic, but:
I wrote how to boost score numbers by changing only 1 line in build.prop from 900-1000 points to 1600-1700 points which proves how worthless quadrant scores are.
Beside that, any SGS owner will tell you that he/she can get 56fps in 3d test, while DroidX fails to deliver more than 10fps in that test.
Moving to linpack, DroidX scores 10-12 MFLOPS, any SGS owner can confirm that SGS scores no less than 14 MFLOPS.
Based on scores now, how is DroidX faster than SGS ? Well it's not, but in the other hand I can agree that Motorola software is better optimized for DroidX than Samsung have done with SGS.
Thanks ramad, I did notice that the fps on the quadrant test were very very low in comparison to the SGS which maxs out at 56fps (on planet test) so I do agree but interesting that so many rely on Quadrant so much that it seems flawed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012556
Have anyone noticed in Quadrant if you are on RFS the database write/read test finishes very quickly compared to ext4 whhch takes 2-3x longer to finish. Yet the score with ext4 is higher. THis does'nt make sense at all. Something is really very WRONG with Quadrant.
Quadrant? oh puuuhleeeezz.. shocked @ samfirmware..
I'm using MiniCM RC1 rom with OC.But it doesn't have any different between OC/non-OC
I just want to ask what would affect the score in benchmark and could you tell about your marks?
ps:English isn't my mother language I wish you could understand what I'm talking about
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I'm using MiniCM RC1 rom with OC.But it doesn't have any different between OC/non-OC
I just want to ask what would affect the score in benchmark and could you tell about your marks?
ps:English isn't my mother language I wish you could understand what I'm talking about
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I have 869 as my lowest score and 1069 as my highest. I'm using Racht's Floyo v0.15. Also, If you overclock only ur Cpu scores increase. At the bottom you should see your CPU score.
samyeung97hk said:
I'm using MiniCM RC1 rom with OC.But it doesn't have any different between OC/non-OC
I just want to ask what would affect the score in benchmark and could you tell about your marks?
ps:English isn't my mother language I wish you could understand what I'm talking about
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The current OC avail for the X8 is for the CPU only. However, you might see an increase in the performance of mem, 2D and 3D performance.
Check out the CPU scores on quadrant, since this will be most affected.
Factors that affect benchmarks: in quadrant, theres a hack which increases scores by fooling quadrant to think a test was completed but actaully not done. this is the default of minicm and most HTC ROMS. Memory and Cache settings also affect the benchmark scores.
Right now, my X8 on RC1 MiniCM with 748 OC has a constant 1200+ quadrant score with Stagefright true and 550 with Stagefright false. 45+ FPS in Neocore. 1020+ on Antutu System Benchmark.
Running services can slow down your phone and lower your score.