Hi all:
i know i have been braging lately a lot on the forums about the battery issue after upgrade to wm6.
BUT- after actually surfing the net for like 2 weeks non stop, i found on several sites a solution which i think would end this "IF" someone has it.
Theoritical Explanation:
it's said that when upgrading to wm6 the battery has to be atleast 50% charged "this is wrong" .
battery has to be 100% charged because for example:
if your battery is say 60% and you upgraded to wm6, the new ROM will mark the 60% as your 100% battery hence why it drains so fast.
that's why you need to charge to 100% first before upgrade BUT the only way to make sure the battery is really at 100% is to remove it and charge it in the cradle separetly until the lid on cradle changes from amber to green.
after that put the battery in your BA and start the RE-upgrade if you are on wm6 already or Upgrade if you are on wm5 or wm2003SE.
you should notice the difference, i'm currently testing it for the 2nd time, to make sure it is the right solution.
P.S. am only a noob so excuse me for the unorganised post.
Pls someone test this aswell
Regards
The battery charge level has nothing to do with the OS, its part dependent.
If i get you right, what are you saying is "if the battery level is 60% on flashing, the new OS will take 60% as being the 100%(maximum) level of what the battery can go".
I think that's wrong.
DANDANA said:
The battery charge level has nothing to do with the OS, its part dependent.
If i get you right, what are you saying is "if the battery level is 60% on flashing, the new OS will take 60% as being the 100%(maximum) level of what the battery can go".
I think that's wrong.
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yes, hence why the battery and BA gets to warm or hot while charging as it cannot exceed the 60% mark which is marked as 100%.
i think it's the only logical explanation
Any battery get warm or hot on charge (or one some type of charge, like car charge).
I may say b*** s***, but after upgrading to WM6, my battery is acting as in WM2003; some software (like HTC home) is draining more, but nothing isn't abnormal; i still get with a 2400 mA a normal day of BA use (PDA+phone).
DANDANA said:
Any battery get warm or hot on charge (or one some type of charge, like car charge).
I may say b*** s***, but after upgrading to WM6, my battery is acting as in WM2003; some software (like HTC home) is draining more, but nothing isn't abnormal; i still get with a 2400 mA a normal day of BA use (PDA+phone).
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the ting is my battery was working very good before upgrade with wm5 and wm2003SE but after wm6 this happened, andnever had i get the battery and BA so very hot like ths.
i finished the re-upgrade after charging battery and it's draining is much better, dropped in 1.30 hours 50% but still getting much draining, it used to drain to zero in 1 hour
ahassouna said:
the ting is my battery was working very good before upgrade with wm5 and wm2003SE but after wm6 this happened, andnever had i get the battery and BA so very hot like ths.
i finished the re-upgrade after charging battery and it's draining is much better, dropped in 1.30 hours 50% but still getting much draining, it used to drain to zero in 1 hour
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Did you disables infrared on the new install? This might take some extra power.
nothing wrong with the OS , i believe it's a psycho matter maybe ??? my battery was 94% charged .. i took the device and went on a trip .. 4 hours with TCMP on listening to Mp3s .. i went back home after 5 hours it was 53%. Sounds good for me. 1450mAh and i charge it every 2 days with normal consumption. Maybe ur batteries are getting old because with No plugins installed it's just as good as WM2003SE.
Battery status - Its possible
ahassouna might be onto something. Logically I know this sounds unlikely. However I recall exactly the same point occuring in the smartphone forums when an OS upgrade came about. It was common knowledge that for the HTC smartphone you should have you battery fully charged when doing it. It was widely tested in the forums - www.modaco.com and generally accepted back then that for best perfromance your battery should be 100% when upgrading. BTW - in my opinion this is the best ROM ever released for BA - big thanks and respect to Helmi!
if it's so you never come back after upgrading with non fully charged battery.
I think that's wrong.
Emm let's say u were right, so i assume that the OS wont determine the correct battery level. So logically, when u get a 0% , the battery is shown as empty while it is not. So if u think a bit , when the OS indicates that the battery is empty, it shouldnt turn itself off because in fact IT IS NOT. So if you get ur device to turn itself off without being able to power on again , that means that the OS was right and it was 0% for real. ( Correct me if i'm wrong )
as the Matter of fact, wm6 is slightly 'heavier' than wm2003, it contains more drivers and stuffs. so it will consume lot More resource than wm2003. I think battery draining also closely related to the read/writing speed of your sdcard, how big the capacity...
My SX66 drains equally under all three OS's, Though I must admit I quickly upgraded from WM2003SE to WM2005. Ran WM2005 for almost a full year, good battery drain, WM2006 seems to drain the same thus far
I would have a look at your battery, there cheap to replace on ebay and such.
Slide2Unlock
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
I don't believe that would cause any problems...the OS is independent of the battery. Anyway, my battery use is only slightly higher in WM6 than WM5.
Your battery can be at any level when you upgrade the ROM...I really cannot see how the OS would "read" the status of the battery and set that as the 100% level.
Try running your battery down to something below 50%, then reflash your ROM...now what does the battery meter show? I bet it shows the same as before you flashed it, below 50%.
blues01 said:
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
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i double that
the_scotsman said:
I don't believe that would cause any problems...the OS is independent of the battery. Anyway, my battery use is only slightly higher in WM6 than WM5.
Your battery can be at any level when you upgrade the ROM...I really cannot see how the OS would "read" the status of the battery and set that as the 100% level.
Try running your battery down to something below 50%, then reflash your ROM...now what does the battery meter show? I bet it shows the same as before you flashed it, below 50%.
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Yes. In fact every battery has a internal chip for charge controll and status level. OS reads the status of the battery by this chip.
blues01 said:
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
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no i don't use it, i finished flashing for the 3rd time with a "3rd battery" Still same problem BUT draiing is less than before but still 1-2 hours max without any calls and drops to zero.
am begining to think my BA went razy for some reason.
P.S. i have no apps or anything installed other than flashing the ROM.
My BA drains normally. I have 2-4 days of standby with occasional calls and usage. The backlight auto-closes in 30 seconds, the power goes off in 1 minute.
ahassouna said:
no i don't use it, i finished flashing for the 3rd time with a "3rd battery" Still same problem BUT draiing is less than before but still 1-2 hours max without any calls and drops to zero.
am begining to think my BA went razy for some reason.
P.S. i have no apps or anything installed other than flashing the ROM.
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Can u retest it on a WM2003SE ? i think maybe a short circuit with ur device or whatsoever
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Yes. In fact every battery has a internal chip for charge controll and status level. OS reads the status of the battery by this chip.
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Exactly...so the first post is wrong...the OS reads the status of the battery and it doesn't matter what charge status the battery is at when you reflash...the battery status circuit will show the proper charge percentage...
Hi all,
One of the things that annoys me about the S200 is that the battery indicator, when charging, doesn't show the actual charge level (but instead, cycles through 20/40/60/80/100)
So, if I want to check the charge level of the phone, I have to disconnect, and then (if it is not charged enough), reconnect.
Is there any tweak that would get it to display actual charge? (All my previous WinMo phones - even going back 8 years - behaved this way)
Thanks
/Sifaan
Batti
Check out this App. I use it and i love it. It shows a battery line and can show percentual state of battery.
http://pda.jasnapaka.com/batti/releases/2.2.php
UUK3 said:
Check out this App. I use it and i love it. It shows a battery line and can show percentual state of battery.
http://pda.jasnapaka.com/batti/releases/2.2.php
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Hi!
I'm trying this on Arto's 2.8 (Manila) ROM and it doesn't appear to do anything at all... are you using a Manila or non-Manila ROM?
Also, it isn't clear from the description if it will display battery level accurately while charging.. can u confirm it's behaviour?
BTW Arto's ROM already includes a mod to show battery to 1% accuracy (but while charging it only shows a charging icon - and battery settings cycles 20/40/60/80/100).
I think the issue is not in the displaying app, but some means to change how the phone reports the battery level to software (perhaps a reg mod or driver mod)
/Sifaan
forgett this app
my mistake. batti only shows % steps. this means that the line is cutted in parts (like blocks). sorry no numerical display
Hi guys
I don't know why my phone's battery Icon shows the percentage every 10 percent,
I mean It doesn't show the range of it it just say 10,20,30,40,50,....and so on.
is there any solution?
I have TP2 with wm6.5 official rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527006
Hello guys i havae some problem with my Blackstone i use it from 2.5 years and i never had problem like this so..
Now when i recharging my device always stay on same % for example even for 1 hour its show always 20% or 50% or anything depends when i put it on the charger..
After restart can show 100% full or anything.. so i found out that the indicator absolutly do not work so if i restart it and show me the real % for example 50% the device always will show 50% battery untill the battery is fully discharged..
And right now i dont know how much Batterry i have and when will need to recharge..
I don`t know but i think this is a battery problem? i use this battery from the begining i mean from more than 2.5 years and maybe is time to change it?! but this heppand when i drop my device once on the floor so do thee is posible by droping the device some senzor to be broken or this is not posible i mean its a battery problem and i will need to buy new one?! or give me some idea how to test this and fix it.
Now no matter that the indicator do not work i still can use my device 1-2 days with one charge even if always show 20% this mean that in the battery itself have power for 2 days conversation internet and etc.. but just do not shown right.
Do anyone of you had the same problem ? and how do you fix it?
Also im looking to buy battery from ebay and i found today this :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-TOUCH-HD-...ultDomain_3&hash=item4aa9446824#ht_3230wt_905
What you think about this battery ? or can someone who already bought battery from ebay point me to get some good one
I read in the Diamond forum that peoples expirience the same problem with the indicator and even after Hard Reset or flashing new ROM the problem is still there.. so if this is right then i dont have reason to Flash again my device if the problem will be still here.
Any Suggestions?
Thanks
I did some tests... so i fully discharge the battery and i saw that even when the battery was on 0% and always the Warning appear i was able to play with the the Device with Wi Fi ON and Games and Music around 45 minutes wow.. this mean that the battery somehow was not calibratet and when its shows 0% in her still have around 30 40 % so after fully discharge the battery till the device Turn OFF by itself then few times turn it ON till there is not enought power even the WinMo to Startup i put it while OFF on the Charger and i was able to recharg to 100% and the light become green this mean the senzor itself work maybe just the battery need calibration again.
Now will see do the indicator work corectly after few more recharges and will write here for peoples who have the same problems in the future
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hi dude, i think you should simply buy a new battery, but preferably an official htc battery - rather than the unofficial gold one you have posted a link to on ebay.
if you do decide to buy a new battery then put the new battery into your blackstone and charge while device is turned off.
this should fix your problem
Rn
raving_nanza said:
hi dude, i think you should simply buy a new battery, but preferably an official htc battery - rather than the unofficial gold one you have posted a link to on ebay.
if you do decide to buy a new battery then put the new battery into your blackstone and charge while device is turned off.
this should fix your problem
Rn
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Actually i think its not Battery die problem because i did some test and i see improvment my battery last at least 2-3 days with alot of usage wifi and etc so this is more than normal.. the problem was that the indicator do not work corectly and like i wrote above i discharge fully the battery till the device die and i saw that when my battery was on 0% i still play alot alot my device to swtich off this mean that befor when the indicator shows 0% its remain anorhter 30 40% power this heppand due to 2.5 years usage and i recharge the device when i have time not always when is fully without power and i think that this cause somehow a discalibration of the Li Ion so today when i did the trick i see improvments and now the indicator start to count ever single % so i think when i do this one or two more times the Battery will be calibratet and will show very corect how much Power i still have.
I think this way because if this battery was already died the device will not last 2-3 days with super usage.
I've had my phone for 20 months now and apart from the odd freeze it's been fine. When I first got it I installed an app/cab that shows how much battery is left in percentage. For the last couple of months this hasn't been working properly. For example it might show there is 20% of the battery left so I put it on charge. When I unplug it, it is still showing 20% so I need to restart the phone and then it shows the correct level. Yesterday it was showing 42% so I put it on charge this morning as I need it full for today. When I unplugged it, again it was still showing 42%. So I restarted it and it then showed 22% (was only on charge about 40 minutes). So obviously the battery was close to 0% rather than 42% when I put it on charge. This doesn't happen all the time, maybe once a week.
Do I just need to uninstall/reinstall the app, is there a better one I could use or could it be a battery issue? The phone is still on 6.5 but I might try a custom ROM now it's out of warranty.
Well, its quite a common problem now really...Firstly, you might want to recalibrate your battery. Read through this link and install the app: (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/windows-m...e-battery-discharger-better-battery-life.html)
If your battery percentage is still not displaying values correctly even after following the instructions and using the app, you have to try other methods.
Try downloading another battery percentage app (http://gadgetmix.com/windows-mobile...-monitor-show-battery-percent-windows-mobile/) or (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584772). Before you install the app, you should uninstall your current cab and observe the default battery indicator icon. If that does not correlate with your actual battery life, then ditch installing other percentage indicator apps and proceed to the steps below. If the default indicator is working well, then its your application thats causing the problem. In this case, reinstall the cab or install a different percentage indicator app. You can also skip the below steps(but you should really give custom ROM flashing a try. It will lead to many extremely good wonders like Android and WP7)
If the above does not work, it is recommended that you flash a custom ROM that is compatible with your phone.Also ensure you flash the right HSPL and radio. Most custom(and the popular/good) ROMS have a battery percentage indicator cooked in. If the ROM you flashed doesnt have the indicator,install the battery indicator app and see if your issue is fixed. Again, monitor the default battery indicator first before moving
If everything has failed and both your battery percentage indicator and default indicator is not displaying the correct values, the problem should most likely be in the battery. Get a new battery and see if that fixes the problem. Hope this helps. Gd luck!