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5mp camera taking better pics than s2

Hi
I got my s2 few days back and it's upgraded to 4.0.3.. I'm happy with the performance but very very sad bcz of camera.. My old nexus is taking back better pictures than this s2.. Here are two same pictures taken in same time and same place..
Picture taken from nexus
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Picture taken from s2
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Please suggest me whether it's ICS problem or camera problem? Should I downgrade it to gb or go for camera replacement?
It's Indian version I9100
Thank you

Megapixels != camera quality.
If you want to take decent photos, buy a good camera.
P.S. Taking landscape photos at night without a tripod = blurry.

here is the photo taken with sgs2
IMG_20120311_115720 by Nomi Omi, on Flickr

are my eyes weird cos the s2 pic looks better to me

or dear just go in this link and you will find more best picture taken by sgs2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139591

So my camera doesn't have any problems right? Cause in nexus photo asyou can see texts look good and clear in those boards even after zooming but in s2 photo it doesn't and s2 photo is so dull compared to nexus.. And I took few photos in night party where we used to hangout.. Picture which was taken in nexus was better than s2.. Like faces were looking clear without so much noise and blurry.. So I thought there might be some problems and posted here

On both photos it looks like you're trying to take a landscape night photo with the flash on (lolwut?). I really think you need to learn how to use a camera, specifically the operating range and capability of a flash and what ISO and shutter speed are.
I love seeing people out at night getting out there pocket camera (or even worse, phone), pointing it at a scene 200 metres away and expecting their flash to automagically make an awesome photo.

Thank you.. I'll learn how to use camera.. I don't have enough experience dealing with cameras.. I just used to do as you said... I'll try my best to learn about it.. So there is no problem about camera right?
And it was took around 6...

ancilary said:
Thank you.. I'll learn how to use camera.. I don't have enough experience dealing with cameras.. I just used to do as you said... I'll try my best to learn about it.. So there is no problem about camera right?
And it was took around 6...
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the difference you see is purely settings-derived

Picture is due to posting I the wrong forum .How the f222 can you manage to use the phone .
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If you look at the store under the "uninor" banner, SGS2 pic is clear while the nexus overexposes it. So it's the exposure setting that's different between the two photos that makes you think the SGS2 is taking darker photos.

Turn on night scene on the S2, problem solved.

I hate all this current selling lark that more == better. So many ppl simply look at a number and think "wow that's high it obviously better".
I've played with a 8mp camera phone and it got totally pissed on my a 3mp nikam proper slr. Always remember you are not going to take the best pictures on a cameras whoes Lens is smaller than a screw head.

As someone already said, megapixels are not a measure of the picture quality. Don't get confused with it. Pictures you have taken are generally bad because of the environment. If you want to take city pics at night then it is not a great idea to use phone for that purpose. Galaxy SII has wonderful camera that can beat almost every other phone's camera on the market. Here is the proof Best photo you've taken on the GS2

ancilary said:
So my camera doesn't have any problems right? Cause in nexus photo asyou can see texts look good and clear in those boards even after zooming but in s2 photo it doesn't and s2 photo is so dull compared to nexus.. And I took few photos in night party where we used to hangout.. Picture which was taken in nexus was better than s2.. Like faces were looking clear without so much noise and blurry.. So I thought there might be some problems and posted here
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But in galaxy picture the motorcycles are much more in focus. You can't really compare them, it depends on what you wanted and how you set the camera. I am no photographer but I once had a camera where you could manually set aperture and shutter time (apart from the focus) and both shots could have come from the same camera with different aperture/shutter settings

You can try to use some camera hacks, some custom roms have it.

I think something's wrong with the sgs2 camera hardware... A long time ago, when I still had my sony ericsson k800, I remember it taking much better pics, even though it only had a 2mp cam...

Lechium06 said:
I think something's wrong with the sgs2 camera hardware... A long time ago, when I still had my sony ericsson k800, I remember it taking much better pics, even though it only had a 2mp cam...
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Well, if you can not solve your problem with flashing Stock Roms or Custom Roms maybe something is wrong with your hardware as you say.

Lechium06 said:
I think something's wrong with the sgs2 camera hardware... A long time ago, when I still had my sony ericsson k800, I remember it taking much better pics, even though it only had a 2mp cam...
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id strongly suggest you have a faulty gs2 if thats the case.

darker photos means less noise , brighter photos means higher noise value thus this will result in lowering the quality of the picture. but i think i have to agree with you on this. GB camera setting is abit better then ics . well for me anyways because i tend to take pictures with my phone (before i got a DSLR that is). now when i try to take the same picture with ICS its doesn't looks as good as the GB camera days.
I think its maybe the camera firmware.

Samsung Galaxy S3 Vs Nikon D5000 DSLR

Samsung Galaxy S3 Vs Nikon D5000 DSLR
Why?
I have a week off this week and while my fiancee is working, I thought I wpould charge my camera battery and have a practice. I am a really amateur photographer. By that I mean I own a nice DSLR (Upper Entry-level) and a couple of lenses but I've never really taken much time to get used to it. Today was a great oppurtunity.
Whilst I started taking snaps, i thought "Wouldn't it be cool if..." and here we are.
Disclaimer - Scientific conditions.
Mode:
Whilst I am only an amateur, I am familiar with my camera and its modes. Although I usually shoot in manual mode, adjusting the aperture and shutter speed as I see fit, for a reasonable degree of accuracy, I decided to use Auto mode. This is also what I used on the SGS 3.
Where as I tried to maintain Automode, I did slip into landscape mode a couple of times on the DSLR. Unfortunately I do not recollect which images were taken in each mode. It was mostly Auto though.
Zoom:
I stuck to my 18-55mm lens on the Nikon and used digital zoom on the SGS3. Although these can never be compared, as this is more a "look what the SGS3 can do" thing, I didn't think that should matter.
MegaPixels:
I set both top their top resolution. The DSLR is 12MP so obviously the detail is better when shown on a huge billboard. On a screen which is smaller than that, it shouldn't be noticable. remember, a HD display (1920x1080) is less than 2.1MP
Galaxy Resolution - 3264×2448 pixels
D5000 Resolution - 4310×2868 pixels
Image format:
The SGS3 takes images in .JPG format by standard. The DSLR took them in .NEF (Nikon RAW) and was converted afterwards. Converting RAW to .JPG on a computer (I used UFraw command line tool on Linux) gives a little bit better quality than letting the camera save as .JPG directly
Conclusions
Obviously this test was just for fun and was never intended to show that the SGS3 would be better than an upper entry level DSLR which even now, 3 years after release, can cost upwards of £500 GBP with a basic 18-55MM lens. Well guess what?! It's not better than the DSLR but hey, we never expected it to be.
What you can tell from the images is that where some of the DSLR images were a bit dark in auto mode, the SGS3 had some nice and bright shots. You can clearly see the difference in quality on some shots, but in others, not so much. I was very surprised at how well the SGS3 took pictures and how nice some of them did look, even compared to the superior DSLR, some of the pcitures the SGS3 took looked nicer, if not better.
Slightly related, but the experience of previewing the image taken was MUCH more enjoyable on the SGS3 with its bright and vibrant screen. You can instantly tell if the image will come out blurry or not, which with the DSLR was really tricky. You cna onyl really check if the photo is framed as you expected.
All in all, the SGS3 is a fantastic little camera. It may not be able to keep up with the big boys but it was never intended to. I would never be disappointed whipping it out of my pocket to capture an "of the moment" photograph. I am very impressed.
Further diclaimer
As mentioned, I am not a photographer. I am sure there are others out there who can do much better than I did with both devices. Remember this is just for fun.
I haven't scientifically analysed the outputs of both devices and used any software or anythign like that. If anyone is into that, please feel free to post results here. I would definitely be interested. All I have done, is used my eyes.
The Images
Each photo tells you if its SGS3 or Nikon from the properties but essentially, the first image is always the SGS3, the second is always the D5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/101616642112510848507/SamsungGalaxyS3VsNikonD5000DSLR
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Have you try another phone like nexus 4 or htc one x?
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glossywhite said:
Was this a joke post? lol.
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?? I think its a good post showing off the gs3 camera well done op
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glossywhite said:
Was this a joke post? lol.
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You didn't have to quote the entire first post! Geez!!!!
I think it's good. I'd love to see comparison results!

I think it's a Inovative idea to Compare s3 and slr but really a daft comparison
The whole point of an slr is control, and whether Full frame or cropped and the list goes on. Quality of sensor.
As much as the s3 has a reasonable lens it is no comparison to a good slr or even a simple slr.
I've been am-tog for over 25yrs from good old 110 days, 35mm film, med format and digital.
S3 auto exp
Canon 50D 10mm-22mm lens and 580ex flash.... Full manual
Taken in almost complete darkness with strobe and coloured lighting.
There's absolutely no way a camera phone could produce this.
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It is a daft comparison. The real aim was to show by removing the element of control, given that the lens and sensor are not of the same quality, the s3 really isn't that bad at all.
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rootSU said:
It is a daft comparison. The real aim was to show by removing the element of control, given that the lens and sensor are not of the same quality, the s3 really isn't that bad at all.
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In the street almost all photo good - camera it is or Nokia 1100
Try make photo INside, at home - and you WILL see REALLLL difference

[Q] Horrible camera quality after 4.3 update

I remember getting my nexus 4 for the first time. I wasn't totally happy with the camera but I thought it was ok. It's the best thing I could get for the price. But after the 4.3 update, the quality is now comparable to cheap android phones. I now rely heavily on HDR apps but we all know they somehow distort the image.
So here's a sample I took using the stock camera app. Take note that I shot it outdoors so there should be no problems with the light. When my phone was still in 4.2, outdoor shots were usually ok using the stock camera in auto (no HDR). The photo below just looks washed out and horrible.
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And here's the same scene but using camera 360. Image is slightly improved but still horrible (too much glare, I guess?)
Any idea how to solve this issue? I am so embarrassed with my phone, I refuse to take pictures from it now, haha!

with 4.3 i am in the same boat. Pictures are washed out compared to 4.2. I dont feel embarrassed but I think Google needs to work on the Camera app.
I recommend using a third party app.

I might decide to install a different ROM and see if the quality improves. It's a little time consuming though (need to backup everything, etc).

Off topic: What location is that?

A mountain in Neihu district, Taipei, Taiwan
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I did'nt notice any real change from 4.2.2 to 4.3 but still the camera is not perfect at all.
Did you try the scene modes ?
HDR could be a good way to improve fr this kind of picture but I'm sure you tried it also.

I never used the scene modes even on 4.2.2 but I'm usually able to take awesome photos using HDR before. I'm pretty sure the quality degraded this time.
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I am now using CyanogenMod 10.1.3 in the hopes that it uses the old camera driver that takes good photos. But the pictures I take are still not as good as the first time I bought this phone. Can anyone tell me what version of Android was the nexus 4 when it first came out? Because CyanogenMod 10.1.3 is from android 4.2.2.

cribol said:
I am now using CyanogenMod 10.1.3 in the hopes that it uses the old camera driver that takes good photos. But the pictures I take are still not as good as the first time I bought this phone. Can anyone tell me what version of Android was the nexus 4 when it first came out? Because CyanogenMod 10.1.3 is from android 4.2.2.
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It started with 4.2.
4.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3
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sometime what you think is enough light really isnt. camera works perfectly here, but it does look like your lens cover is dirty. also, dont be afraid to mess with your camera settings...

simms22 said:
sometime what you think is enough light really isnt. camera works perfectly here, but it does look like your lens cover is dirty. also, dont be afraid to mess with your camera settings...
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how come light isn't enough outdoors? also I do clean my phone every once in a while.
Anyway, were those photos taken with android 4.3? I was able to take nice macros before when my phone was still 4.2. Check out the samples below. These were all taken early this year (january to february) using the stock camera's HDR mode.
Needless to say, I was quite happy with my phone before the updates

cribol said:
how come light isn't enough outdoors? also I do clean my phone every once in a while.
Anyway, were those photos taken with android 4.3? I was able to take nice macros before when my phone was still 4.2. Check out the samples below. These were all taken early this year (january to february) using the stock camera's HDR mode.
Needless to say, I was quite happy with my phone before the updates
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by the looks of your photos in the op, there wasva lot of moisture in the air. that tends to block light. btw, did you just point and shoot, or did you focus on something first? as just a point and shoot, the camera isnt that good, but if you go and focus on something first the camera takes better photos. try adjusting the setting per shot, raise exposure +1 if in doubt about the light. also, for close up shots, ill use the flash with a -1 exposure in direct sunlight. btw, mine photis posted were with android 4.3, from this week.

Focal camera
Try using Focal camera by the CM team....its quite useful....helped me out too....its available for free on the play store....

simms22 said:
by the looks of your photos in the op, there wasva lot of moisture in the air. that tends to block light. btw, did you just point and shoot, or did you focus on something first? as just a point and shoot, the camera isnt that good, but if you go and focus on something first the camera takes better photos. try adjusting the setting per shot, raise exposure +1 if in doubt about the light. also, for close up shots, ill use the flash with a -1 exposure in direct sunlight. btw, mine photis posted were with android 4.3, from this week.
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hhmm.. I'm still not convinced simply because I haven't been able to take good photos ever since the updates. I used to be contented with the stock camera app's HDR mode. Now even camera 360 takes bad, grainy photos. I just noticed that photos after the update were usually washed out. I do remember that the camera was pretty unstable during 4.2, sometimes it would crash and I would have to reboot to make it work again.
I think I just point and shoot, but doesn't the camera autofocus when it detects movements? I usually wait a second or two for the camera to focus before i press the shutter button. Anyway, thanks for the tips about the exposure. Yes, I usually don't change those settings.

Disgusting sharpening

The first thing I noticed when using the camera on this phone was how the images looked over processed. Most notably, I did a digital zoom photo yesterday and the sharpening on it was disgusting. It didn't even look like a photo.
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See what I mean? All I did was zoom in and take a photo. It looks horrible.
Look at this picture for example
Even just zoomed in a bit you can see way too much sharpening going on
Now I know this phone is a "budget phone" but it supposedly has the same lens as the Galaxy S7 so that isn't really an excuse. It looks like it comes down to it being the processing that moto put in.
Can anybody out there please let me know if rooting my phone and shooting RAW will produce cleaner photos? I would have to guess so, since I can control the sharpening myself. I haven't been able to find any RAW samples from this phone.

is it a software thing? I've converted to snap camera on whatever device.

I'm afraid it's in the firmware. Any camera app I've tried yields the same results

U should probably return or replace u your phone I had the same issue without even zooming
The phone couldn't focus on things right next the camera mine also had pink tints while recording
So I got mine replaced​
Now everything works good

It's also the processor. The G5 plus has the 625 while the S7 had the 820 allowing for much better image processing.

nigaindelhi said:
U should probably return or replace u your phone I had the same issue without even zooming
The phone couldn't focus on things right next the camera mine also had pink tints while recording
So I got mine replaced​
Now everything works good
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Well it focuses just fine, and pictures in day light look alright but there is some heavy noticeable processing going on in the moto firmware.
This picture looks pretty good but if you zoom in just a bit you can really see the over sharpening.
Here is a photo of my Nexus 5x
It looks much cleaner to me. Less over processing and less sharpening artifacts. The processor on the G5 Plus should be pretty comparable to the 808 in the N5x so I really don't think its a processor issue. It seems to me like it was a design choice by Moto. All of the sample photos I have seen also have too much sharpening. I am strongly considering just rooting the device and shooting raw. At least then I can control the sharpening myself

Well then we would have to wait for an update then

emoney1219 said:
It's also the processor. The G5 plus has the 625 while the S7 had the 820 allowing for much better image processing.
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It should make no difference, if you do the same processing in software - other than perhaps taking slightly longer to process the photo?
Otherwise, we'll have to shoot RAW if we want the best quality I guess?
It seems to me however, that any settings affecting the image processing quality should have parameters which could be changed?

critofur said:
It should make no difference, if you do the same processing in software - other than perhaps taking slightly longer to process the photo?
Otherwise, we'll have to shoot RAW if we want the best quality I guess?
It seems to me however, that any settings affecting the image processing quality should have parameters which could be changed?
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The processor contains the ISP or the Image Signal Processor which controls HDR, white balance, auto focus, exposure, color filters and so on. The better the ISP the better the image. So while the 2 phones have the same sensor they will never have the same image results because they have different processors and the more powerful chips have better ISP on board resulting in better images even with the same sensor.

The strength of this camera's focusing is in the sensor chip - "dual pixel focus".
All the other things you mention such as white balance, HDR, color filters are applied after the RAW image is taken - so, there's really no reason that you couldn't generate the same quality of image.

if nothing else, I'm upgrading my everyday knock around (2015) moto e. I won't complain toooooo much.

I have to agree with the OP on this one - there is some horrendous post-processing going on with this phone.
I'd love to get that to stop - even if we have to go to RAW/DNG to get it.
Has anyone done the root/Freedcam method described in another thread on here and gotten DNGs from this camera?
I'd love to see how they look... I'll eventually do it when LOS gets stable enough.

wait couple of days more, there will be some nice mods incoming for g5p camera.

srb- said:
I have to agree with the OP on this one - there is some horrendous post-processing going on with this phone.
I'd love to get that to stop - even if we have to go to RAW/DNG to get it.
Has anyone done the root/Freedcam method described in another thread on here and gotten DNGs from this camera?
I'd love to see how they look... I'll eventually do it when LOS gets stable enough.
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2017_05_09_17_44_53-Edit-Edit by defcomk, on Flickr
Raw No Flat Field Correction - Bad Noise Profile so color bleed when doing NR

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Raw No Flat Field Correction - Bad Noise Profile so color bleed when doing NR
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Looks like a promising photo to me!
I'm new around XDA... is will flat field correction and NR come with time, or is this the best we'll get?

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Looks like a promising photo to me!
I'm new around XDA... is will flat field correction and NR come with time, or is this the best we'll get?
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Probably before Friday its only day two of having the phone but thanks for reminding me gonna do flat field now light nice and diffused

RAW pictures noisy in most conditions

I picked up a galaxy s8 a few months ago, I always used pro mode to capture images under more specific conditions like the night sky. but I've always been bothered by the amount of noise generated by the images in low light. no matter the value of ISO and even using 800, the noise does not make sense. I use a tripod and set the timer. I'll attach an example of the difference between the processed jpeg and the dng. I've tried clearing the cache, rebooting the phone but the noise is still very intense. it is not compensating to use raw capture mode on s8. I do not know if this problem goes from each device or is it general, if the solution would be an update of the camera app or if a hard reset could help. Does anyone have any ideas?
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leodrgomes48 said:
I picked up a galaxy s8 a few months ago, I always used pro mode to capture images under more specific conditions like the night sky. but I've always been bothered by the amount of noise generated by the images in low light. no matter the value of ISO and even using 800, the noise does not make sense. I use a tripod and set the timer. I'll attach an example of the difference between the processed jpeg and the dng. I've tried clearing the cache, rebooting the phone but the noise is still very intense. it is not compensating to use raw capture mode on s8. I do not know if this problem goes from each device or is it general, if the solution would be an update of the camera app or if a hard reset could help. Does anyone have any ideas?
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As I understand camera apps do have some noise reduction algorithm, but I don't think it applies to RAW files - just a theory.

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As I understand camera apps do have some noise reduction algorithm, but I don't think it applies to RAW files - just a theory.
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I agree an that's true... but even using the lightroom and using the noise processing features, i didn't get a satisfactory result. the way will be to turn off the raw mode and make me content with jpeg.
even because I read in a forum that the size of the pixels and the sensor inevitably creates that noise and the "hot pixels". this is less seen in daylight and in that cases maybe i'll give a chance for dng.
here's what the guy said:
"The best apps for processing RAW are the Adobe apps: Photoshop, Elements or Lightroom. They all use the same Adobe Camera RAW plugin, although a few features are "crippled" in the "Elements" version (things like batch processing).
But, in most cases, RAW will be pretty useless on the Note 5, or any other phone. With the tiny sensor that phones have, not much useful data is saved in RAW, as the pixels are SO small. Also, noise reduction isn't applied in a RAW image - and there is a LOT of noise on small-sensor images, although you can do noise processing on a RAW image. Good noise processing, however, often requires a separate post-processing program or plugin.
I don't have my Note 5 yet, so haven't tested it, but don't have a lot of hope that RAW will be much use."
I really really wanted it to be a bug ... but unfortunately it does not seem to be ..

leodrgomes48 said:
I agree an that's true... but even using the lightroom and using the noise processing features, i didn't get a satisfactory result. the way will be to turn off the raw mode and make me content with jpeg.
even because I read in a forum that the size of the pixels and the sensor inevitably creates that noise and the "hot pixels". this is less seen in daylight and in that cases maybe i'll give a chance for dng.
here's what the guy said:
"The best apps for processing RAW are the Adobe apps: Photoshop, Elements or Lightroom. They all use the same Adobe Camera RAW plugin, although a few features are "crippled" in the "Elements" version (things like batch processing).
But, in most cases, RAW will be pretty useless on the Note 5, or any other phone. With the tiny sensor that phones have, not much useful data is saved in RAW, as the pixels are SO small. Also, noise reduction isn't applied in a RAW image - and there is a LOT of noise on small-sensor images, although you can do noise processing on a RAW image. Good noise processing, however, often requires a separate post-processing program or plugin.
I don't have my Note 5 yet, so haven't tested it, but don't have a lot of hope that RAW will be much use."
I really really wanted it to be a bug ... but unfortunately it does not seem to be ..
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So by reading this, it sounds like the camera's sensor is to blame as in phones it is much smaller than on normal standalone camera. Maybe that is why most OEMs didn't offer RAW option in their phones. People didn't like the idea of not having RAW support, so little by little OEMs started adding the option. The reason it would be nice for me to use RAW is because I won't have to carry another camera, but if the quality of RAW isn't good, then there is no point in using it + images take more space on the phone.
Phones didn't get to that stage yet, where user can say "my phone is all I need to take awesome pictures in any mode" Photos may look nice on the phone's screen, but when using PC to view them, they look different. You immediately see noise, as in your case, see some blown out highlights or areas where HDR didn't do a good job.

leodrgomes48 said:
I agree an that's true... but even using the lightroom and using the noise processing features, i didn't get a satisfactory result. the way will be to turn off the raw mode and make me content with jpeg.
even because I read in a forum that the size of the pixels and the sensor inevitably creates that noise and the "hot pixels". this is less seen in daylight and in that cases maybe i'll give a chance for dng.
here's what the guy said:
"The best apps for processing RAW are the Adobe apps: Photoshop, Elements or Lightroom. They all use the same Adobe Camera RAW plugin, although a few features are "crippled" in the "Elements" version (things like batch processing).
But, in most cases, RAW will be pretty useless on the Note 5, or any other phone. With the tiny sensor that phones have, not much useful data is saved in RAW, as the pixels are SO small. Also, noise reduction isn't applied in a RAW image - and there is a LOT of noise on small-sensor images, although you can do noise processing on a RAW image. Good noise processing, however, often requires a separate post-processing program or plugin.
I don't have my Note 5 yet, so haven't tested it, but don't have a lot of hope that RAW will be much use."
I really really wanted it to be a bug ... but unfortunately it does not seem to be ..
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This is so untrue what the "GUY" is saying . To blame is Sony/Samsung making intentional inferior sensor to MAKE an brake-thru in upcoming sensor's. my Old OnePlus One capture DNG and i compare them to S8 dng and MY Canon DSLR. Results are shoking