What's the difference between "Hboot" and "Recovery" - Droid Incredible General

With all this OTA talk I just want to get this straight. Thanks.
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Hboot is your bootloader and recovery is just that

* edit* found the answer to my other question

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How to flush back to the original rom

I ask trying to flash back to iced glacier but I'm stuck in bootloader
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Check out the development section. Theres guide for goin back to stock.
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tvotony said:
I ask trying to flash back to iced glacier but I'm stuck in bootloader
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okay i'm 99.9 percent sure on this one.
What recovery image are you using 2.x? 3.0.0.5? or 3.0.0.6?
neidlinger said:
okay i'm 99.9 percent sure on this one.
What recovery image are you using 2.x? 3.0.0.5? or 3.0.0.6?
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lol allow me.
This thread wreaks of nonsearching win. Love it. #winninglolz!
Sorry... but these posts are getting to be funny as hell.
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neidlinger said:
okay i'm 99.9 percent sure on this one.
What recovery image are you using 2.x? 3.0.0.5? or 3.0.0.6?
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3.0.0.5 and i have flashed a older version of the clockworkMod to get back to stock but its not working now. and then i just get stuck in bootloader
tvotony said:
3.0.0.5 and i have flashed a older version of the clockworkMod to get back to stock but its not working now. and then i just get stuck in bootloader
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Boot into recovery
pull the battery
put the battery in
hold the volume down rocker
press and hold the power button
navigate to recovery via the rocker buttons
select recovery via tapping the power button.
once you are in there, and you are using the older Recovery image, try wiping the phone and re-flashing the ROM.

Flash a new radio on a unrooted phone.

Is it possible.
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I'm pretty sure it is but personally I wouldn't try it.
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If I remember correctly you can't. You need to be fully rooted meaning s-off. Basically s-off means radio sercurity off,among other things turned off. If you try to flash anything through clocklworkmod recovery without s-off,either nothing will happen or your phone will be bricked an you will have to buy a complete new phone. Best thing to do is fully root(s-off). If you need help rooting your phone,send me a pm,an ill help you out.
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Mr.Highway said:
If I remember correctly you can't. You need to be fully rooted meaning s-off. Basically s-off means radio sercurity off,among other things turned off. If you try to flash anything through clocklworkmod recovery without s-off,either nothing will happen or your phone will be bricked an you will have to buy a complete new phone. Best thing to do is fully root(s-off). If you need help rooting your phone,send me a pm,an ill help you out.
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You're right that you must be rooted to flash in recovery, but you do not flash radios in recovery. They are flashed in the bootloader, and I'm not sure root access is required to flash a PD15IMG.zip file in the bootloader. I'm leaning towards root not being required, but I don't know for sure. Might as well go ahead and try it. The worst that could happen is you get the "access denied" message and the installation aborts.
I was thinking that about the radio, I just flashed my first one. After having my phone rooted for 6months. Only reason why I said root the phone. Is to make sure he has full control over the phone. An it takes some risks out,some but not all.
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Yea, I was about to say you don't use cwm to flash a new radio but you got it. : P lol
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Its my girls phone, she wanted the latest but won't let me root it. (Personally I have no idea why) girls I tell ya. Haha. Thanks again everyone.
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If you ever need anymore help,feel free to send me a message.
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Radios can be flashed in bootloader - otherwise stock firmware updates wouldn't be able to upgrade radios - but they most probably need to be signed to be flashed by S-ON bootloader. In that case, the answer to the OP would be "no".

Bypass bootloader to recovery:)

Hi, I found this accidentally. I'm on 2.3.4 stock rooted with locked bootloader.
1. You must have root.
2. Install Rom Manager from Market
3. Open Rom Manager and flash ClockworkMod Recovery
4. Turn off you phone and connect to the wall outlet charger and its going to bypass bootloader and open recovery
That's all I found it by accident
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This isn't news, clockworkmod is on most people's phones here, from a few different sources. Did you know you can install themes, radios, fonts, bootanimations, all kinds of things from recovery? Check out the development forum.
Yes but you don't need to unlock the bootloader to install rom's.
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Incorrect.
If you try flashing a ROM right now you will brick your phone. We could get into a bootstrap recovery before the bootloader was unlocked, but if you installed a different system the phone would catch that upon next boot and won't start up. I believe it's at least something like that... You need an unlocked bootloader, basically!
If I install a different rom its not going to boot in to the rom? Why not?
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Because your bootloader isn't unlocked lol, that's the whole point of the locked bootloader.
Why don't you just unlock it so that you CAN install custom ROMs?
samomamo said:
If I install a different rom its not going to boot in to the rom? Why not?
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ROM Manager installs recovery over the stock recovery, which is in the fastboot menu prior to loading the boot image. You can get into stock recovery prior to booting, but it basically does nothing. The ROM Manager recovery is semi-functional but doesn't wipe anything, which fails with installing. Romracer's recovery appears to be fully functional. After anything is installed in recovery, you will need to reboot system to initiate the bootloader. The bootloader has to load the kernel as well as the system/ROM for you to get into the environment. The bootloader checks that the signatures of the kernel and ROM match what it is expecting to see or you will get a brick. Unlocking the bootloader still loads the bootloader, but avoids the checking of signatures of kernel or ROM, if I understand correctly.
Ok but its going to let me install a rom, isn't the bootloader spouse to stop it from installing?
I just made a backup and it let me.
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samomamo said:
Ok but its going to let me install a rom, isn't the bootloader spouse to stop it from installing?
I just made a backup and it let me.
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That's not good.
OSNPA said:
That's not good.
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Since you say you are locked, and you installed a ROM from ROM Manager, hope that you can get into RSD since you seem insistent on booting this up.
Sorry whats RSD? And why I need that?
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Search before do a stupid thing. Because if you brick yoyr device, and you will.....you will start blaim xda forum and devs
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Why im going to blame ? Nobody. Told me to do anything.
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samomamo said:
Sorry whats RSD? And why I need that?
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RSD Lite is Moto software, not for public use but leaked, that is needed for loading stock boot files (SBF). Check the development forum for all details about what you are doing/about to do/have done.
Thanx
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samomamo said:
Sorry whats RSD? And why I need that?
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STOP doing ANYTHING to your phone RIGHT NOW. take some time to read several of the threads on the development forum and verse yourself in what RSD, SBF, fast boot, recovery, boot loaders and pudding are. there are LOTS of guides for beginners on how to change ROMs on the phone. what you're doing is NOT one of them.
if you do anything else with your phone right now without reading up and knowing what you're doing, you WILL **** up your phone.
This seems to be a troll attempt or an attempt to look really stupid, either way, the user doesn't seem to want to hear out anyone telling him to stop what he's doing, so I say just let him figure it out the hard way.
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That's not good.
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+ 1 uh ohhhh
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Sergent00stupid did you see me not agreeing with anyone?
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Unlocking bootloader on Nexus S 2.3.4

Hey all...any one have a way to u lock the bootloader on a Nexus S with 2.3.4?
I just want time thy still super user and root access and do not want to load a new rom.
I did it on my Dell Streak and it was super easy with superoneclick. It alas, no luck with my Nexus.
Any help?
Gary
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I think you're missing something. I got two words:
FASTBOOT UNLOCK
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Wicked....that's all I need.
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obsanity said:
I think you're missing something. I got two words:
FASTBOOT UNLOCK
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Wouldn't it be three words?
fastboot oem unlock
Yes the steps are simple:
First have fastboot working on your computer.
Next have your phone drivers installed if you are on Windows.
Then put your phone into bootloader (hold Vol Up while powering on).
Finally run: FASTBOOT OEM UNLOCK
Bootloader will unlock and you can flash whatever you want. Sounds like you will want to flash ClockworkMod Recovery and then SuperUser.zip.
Matt
Well, here goes nuthin! thanks for the input all.
Ummm...i guess i need more hand holding more than I thought...fml. sorry gang. I promise I am good at following instructions... smile.
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You could try one of the stickied guides like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782
Lots of useful information in that thread
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Thats the thread I have been referring to though it isn't clear on how to keep my stock gingerbread....i am good to go so long as I know how to keep my stock factory os...
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Through step 2 your stock OS is unchanged
Part 3 installs a custom recovery which is needed if you want superuser permissions
Part 4 installs the files needed to have root in your OS
So if you want to keep everything stock and just have an unlocked bootloader feel free to stop after step 2, if you want a rooted stock follow through each of the 4 steps
Great news, the bootloader is now unlocked...halfway there! I am on the Rooting step...
In clockwork recovery, the root aborts with error "E: can't open/sdcard/su-2.3.1-bin-signed.zip (bad)" then says "installation aborted".
Done and rooted. Yay!
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thekenderman said:
Done and rooted. Yay!
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Good job!!!

Stock ICS with HBoot 1.08 - How to root it?

My Thunderbolt received a full OTA update after I unrooted the phone and I was able to get the S-OFF via HTCdev site but I am unable to get root access or install custom recovery. Any idea how I could flash a custom recover to flash a rooted rom?
Current bootloader
I posted a screen shot of my bootloader
Wrong section. This needs to be in q and a.
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It says s-on in the screen shot below?
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Exeodus said:
It says s-on in the screen shot below?
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I noticed it after a while too. I guess the big UNLOCKED got me off track. Still root is needed
htcdev sucks. recovery cannot install kernels.
you need to either:
1)install your boot image with fastboot,
or
2)launch your recovery into memory with the fastboot boot command,then install your rom normally
i personally would try and downgrade back to an older build so you can root via revolutionary. older builds were downgradeable just by changing the main version,hopefully that hasnt changed.
since your unlocked and have a recovery:
-install this superuser to gain root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 (download link reads UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.04.zip)
-you can try changing the main version by flashing this zip: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23169557&postcount=4 (make sure to thank drellis and con)
-check that the zip worked with the fastboot command fastboot getvar mainver or fastboot getvar all
-if the zip works,relock and,try flashing an ruu that contains hboot 1.04
im out the door to work,but if you need help with the specifics,i can help you later. i believe that should work. if this thread gets moved,PM me a new link
A way to root has been found but the HTC dev method is the only way to unlock the new hboot atm. A way to downgrade is being looked into also. The current downgrade ruu doesn't work with the new hboot either. If you know how to modify the ruu so it can be used for downgrade that would be fantastic.
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disconnecktie said:
A way to root has been found but the HTC dev method is the only way to unlock the new hboot atm. A way to downgrade is being looked into also. The current downgrade ruu doesn't work with the new hboot either. If you know how to modify the ruu so it can be used for downgrade that would be fantastic.
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You cant modify the downgrade ruu.it needs to be stock,and signed. You just need to change the main version.
Try what I suggested above,I'm 99% sure it will work. I can put together some specific directions,but I can't really test since my tb is radio s off.
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scotty1223 said:
You cant modify the downgrade ruu.it needs to be stock,and signed. You just need to change the main version.
Try what I suggested above,I'm 99% sure it will work. I can put together some specific directions,but I can't really test since my tb is radio s off.
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OK I see. I'm s off to so I can't test but I'm sure there are those that will.
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I would like to know how to try the process mentioned above. please let me know. Thanks
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I would like to know how to try the process mentioned above. please let me know. Thanks
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Are you allready htcdev unlocked?
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Okay, I admit it, I am confused, despite having flash ROMs for over a year now. What exactly are the steps to get from point A, completely factory stock with the ICS upgrade, to point B, unlocked and rooted so that I can flash a rom? Or am I misunderstanding, and there is no such route at this point? I have the greatest respect for everyone on this site who takes the time to help people out. Thank you very much.
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I think we got it with Scotty's help.
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I can confirm that downgrade is possible. Lt. Belspur is now unblocked and s off using the methods that Scotty posted. Big props
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disconnecktie said:
I think we got it with Scotty's help.
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I can confirm that downgrade is possible. Lt. Belspur is now unblocked and s off using the methods that Scotty posted. Big props
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Awsome sauce! glad it worked for you guys. I can do a noob friendly set of directions in the next couple days,and if yall have seen a working temp root,link it to me and we can do a no htcdev unlock version as well.
For those that don't like manual methods,hopefully trter will add dowmgrade to his all in one tool.
Did yall go all the way back to hboot 1.04,or to 1.05?
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scotty1223 said:
Awsome sauce! glad it worked for you guys. I can do a noob friendly set of directions in the next couple days,and if yall have seen a working temp root,link it to me and we can do a no htcdev unlock version as well.
For those that don't like manual methods,hopefully trter will add dowmgrade to his all in one tool.
Did yall go all the way back to hboot 1.04,or to 1.05?
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1.05.0000
Thanks for your time.
I believe that trter has a temp root method. He mentioned that he was working with revolutionary to see if we could get an unlock method from them but I think he bricked. Don't quote me on that though.
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Guide is here for anyone that needs it
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
Thanks to belspur for making it.
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