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I've been searching around and I can't get a definite answer...
Can the vibrant pick up the AT&T 850 MHz 3G network? Is there any way to turn on this feature?
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Yes. The 1900mhz I believe as well. Idk what you search but Google "Vibrant on at&t 3G"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...vibrant+on+att+3G&aq=f&aqi=g-s1g-ms1&aql=&oq=
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Use SGS Tools. Select secret codes. Scroll down to band selection and it will give you all the options.
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I've turned every band on, but I'm still only on edge...
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I've turned every band on, but I'm still only on edge...
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Are you using the correct APN settings?
Don't really know what mine is set on but im running bionix v and my vibrant is unlocked and it works perfectly on 3g att so it will run on 3g
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I can get 3G in other areas, but not here, which leads me to believe it's just a 850 MHz band.
I can take out the SIM and put it in an iPhone and it picks up 3G just fine, whereas the vibrant is stuck on edge. It's frustrating to keep having to reboot the phone to pop out the SIM
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wearmaize said:
I can get 3G in other areas, but not here, which leads me to believe it's just a 850 MHz band.
I can take out the SIM and put it in an iPhone and it picks up 3G just fine, whereas the vibrant is stuck on edge. It's frustrating to keep having to reboot the phone to pop out the SIM
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Its got to be unlocked doesn't it to work on att 3g network don't it?
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Here we go again. If you are referring to the T-Mobile USA Vibrant, it does not have support for 850Mhz UMTS bands. Period. The FCC says so. That is pretty definitive as far as I am concerned. It does not matter what some piece of software shows you. The hardware is not capable as it sits in the T-Mobile USA Vibrant. Search the FCC database for the Vibrant. GSM 850Mhz ≠ UMTS 850Mhz.
Pretty sure it's just 1900MHz. The FCC documents would have included the 850MHz band if it was really there.
Edit: Lol, yeah what he said.
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Thanks for clearing it up now comes the dilemma of deciding whether to use the vibrant or an iPhone that uses the 3G speeds...
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Tmobile Vibrant does have capability to operate on ATT 3G network.
I could get it working with iphone sim card.
Specification also includes ATT frequencies.
Att is using two frequencies for 3G.
If it don't run on 3g then why does my vibrant have a 3g data icon and is blazing fast on it?
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It runs on 3G in areas where AT&T uses 1900MHz for 3G. It runs on Edge in areas where AT&T only uses 850MHz for 3G.
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joe3681 said:
Yes. The 1900mhz I believe as well. Idk what you search but Google "Vibrant on at&t 3G"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...vibrant+on+att+3G&aq=f&aqi=g-s1g-ms1&aql=&oq=
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No. No it can't.
Jesus Christ. Is it really that hard to not respond when you clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about?
Yes yes it can like I said I have a us vibrant and it switches between e witch is edge and 3g don't know how but it has a 3g icon that tells me that its on 3g if it not then why does it say 3g? And it is a beast on 3g on every once in a while it will have a H icon most of the time it SAYS 3G!!!!
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Yes yes it can like I said I have a us vibrant and it switches between e witch is edge and 3g don't know how but it has a 3g icon that tells me that its on 3g if it not then why does it say 3g? And it is a beast on 3g on every once in a while it will have a H icon most of the time it SAYS 3G!!!!
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because of this:
inconceeeivable said:
It runs on 3G in areas where AT&T uses 1900MHz for 3G. It runs on Edge in areas where AT&T only uses 850MHz for 3G.
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Precisely.
The Vibrant does not have 850mhz 3g support. Only AWS(1700)/PCS(1900)/IMT(2100) 3g support.
Wow...just wow. Seriously, the FCC does not generally lie about things like this. And no, I don't think it is a big conspiracy in this case...lol
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Wow...just wow. Seriously, the FCC does not generally lie about things like this. And no, I don't think it is a big conspiracy in this case...lol
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I'm not sure what this is about. Maybe it's just wishful thinking run amok...seems like most of these people either want to switch to AT&T or bought the phone intending to use it on AT&T, have since found out that it won't work in their area, and are refusing to ultimately admit to themselves that it won't work.
People like to think to themselves, "Well, maybe the FCC screwed up and I DO have a pentaband (or quadband?) 3G phone." The slightest bit of uncertainty encourages such thoughts...there are threads with jokers enabling the fake 850MHz menu selection and exclaiming, "OMG, I have AT&T 3G on 850MHz" when they already had it on 1900MHz. People who bother googling the question ahead of time will no doubt find some older, confusing threads.(Albeit they will hopefully find more and more threads with people like us saying "No, it's not in the FCC docs," etc.)
We should have a sticky or something about this lol.
Yes, I googled it and found conflicting reports which is why I came here to clear it up.
Thanks again
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Were getting better connection since tmo and att didnt work out, tmo is getting more spectrum http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/11uax01-jpg-e1327448591272.png
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is it nationwide or just the rural areas that tmo doesn't have the best coverage? thanks for the info by the way
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If you search there is a list of towers they are going to share (big cities) but they are getting extra spectrum as well.
Don't have a link sorry.
Read about it awhile ago.
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is it nationwide or just the rural areas that tmo doesn't have the best coverage? thanks for the info by the way
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Well as much as i know tmobile didnt have much say in it, att gave tmo the spectrum that it was barely using so my guess would b its the lower population areas, but i do see major city upgrades too
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More spectrum doesn't mean better coverage. AT&T only gave T-Mobile spectrum in places that AT&T doesn't need it, and T-Mobile has some, but not enough.
That's why only 2-3 markets got 20MHz of spectrum, and those were AT&T LTE markets that have 700 up and running.
Please help me. I have a motorola atrix 4g. Unlocked. Rooted. Running on t-mobile network. I have 3g contract but all i am getting is edge (which is fricking slow). I know it possible for you to be able to change atrix automatic custom network (which is at&t) to work with t-mobile. Youtube doesn't help cause all i see is bell, sprint and metro pcs. I know it something with the radio. But i need your help thanks.
Do you have any friends who have tmo that you can ask their apn settings? That's my suggestion.
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Please help me. I have a motorola atrix 4g. Unlocked. Rooted. Running on t-mobile network. I have 3g contract but all i am getting is edge (which is fricking slow). I know it possible for you to be able to change atrix automatic custom network (which is at&t) to work with t-mobile. Youtube doesn't help cause all i see is bell, sprint and metro pcs. I know it something with the radio. But i need your help thanks.
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did you know atrix has a triple band 3g and it does NOT have the tmobile 3g/hspa band. so nothing will work
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did you know atrix has a triple band 3g and it does NOT have the tmobile 3g/hspa band. so nothing will work
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This is true. Carrier radio frequencies do differ in the USA. Wifi is the only high speed you'll get in the USA if you are not on at&t using the at&t Atrix.
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jjwatmyself said:
This is true. Carrier radio frequencies do differ in the USA. Wifi is the only high speed you'll get in the USA if you are not on at&t using the at&t Atrix.
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Im so angry. But hope something comes up
If you're not locked into a t-mobile contract I suggest going to straight talk, they have a SIM for AT&T version phones and that should get you 3g. Or go for h20 wireless which should get you full 4g speed.
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Im so angry. But hope something comes up
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phonearena.com and gsmarena.com has specs of all of the phones as well as the providers.
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If you're not locked into a t-mobile contract I suggest going to straight talk, they have a SIM for AT&T version phones and that should get you 3g. Or go for h20 wireless which should get you full 4g speed.
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Lol, despite its name Atrix 4G does not have 4G... You need a carrier working on one or two of 850/1900/2100 3g frequencies.
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hspa+
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consolation said:
Lol, despite its name Atrix 4G does not have 4G... You need a carrier working on one or two of 850/1900/2100 3g frequencies.
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i'd still consider HSPA plus more 4g than Sprint's so called 4g and that wimax thing the original evo has
and I'd consider verizon's 3G more like 2g hahaha
Man im disappointed u should have never brought this phone cuz a friend said I can hack the Motorola custom radio which was at&t to T-Mobile. But he was wrong.
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I want to get a Nexus 4 but am curious to see if AT&T supports 21mbps HSPA+?
Yes.
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I want to get a Nexus 4 but am curious to see if AT&T supports 21mbps HSPA+?
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It supports the 21mbps speeds of hspa just wont support there 4g LTE
Careful though... Just because at&t might offer it somewhere doesn't mean you'll have it in your area. I'm in the Chicagoland area, arguably one of the largest markets in this country, and all they offer here is hspa 15 because of their LTE focus. So you might not want to focus your decision on the fact that hspa 21+ is technically possible through at&t.
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If you have a choice, I'd go with T-Mobile. Their 3G is WAYYYY faster than ATT's 3g...
... at least here in california... i get like barely 1MB down IF IM LUCKY with ATT...
...when I throw my sisters T-Mobile SIM in my nexus,, its at least around 2-3 MB/sec!!
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If you have a choice, I'd go with T-Mobile. Their 3G is WAYYYY faster than ATT's 3g...
... at least here in california... i get like barely 1MB down IF IM LUCKY with ATT...
...when I throw my sisters T-Mobile SIM in my nexus,, its at least around 2-3 MB/sec!!
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Here in SoCal and I'm on AT&T and I average about 5-7Mbps, highest I've gotten is 10Mbps.
I get 12-18 down on Solavei which uses T-Mobile
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Yes. The LG Google Nexus 4 supports both HSPA+ 21/42 and compatible with AT&T.
Fastest I have seen on my phone with Att is 13.2mb/s
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Careful though... Just because at&t might offer it somewhere doesn't mean you'll have it in your area. I'm in the Chicagoland area, arguably one of the largest markets in this country, and all they offer here is hspa 15 because of their LTE focus. So you might not want to focus your decision on the fact that hspa 21+ is technically possible through at&t.
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The numbers don't work like that. HSPA:+15 is either 21mbps or 42mbps. The 15 is not the Mbps cap of the network.
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joshnichols189 said:
The numbers don't work like that. HSPA:+15 is either 21mbps or 42mbps. The 15 is not the Mbps cap of the network.
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Well, according to this link, even at&t refers to the number of the hspa+ revision as it's top speed, so if you could show me something explaining why that's not correct, they would be great.
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/att-21-mbps-hspa-available-80-3g-footprint/2010-11-18
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where I live we don't have 3g or 4g on t-mobile. we are forced to go with at&t or straight talk.
Just to show tmobile speeds here in metro Detroit
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Well, according to this link, even at&t refers to the number of the hspa+ revision as it's top speed, so if you could show me something explaining why that's not correct, they would be great.
http://www.fiercebroadbandwireless.com/story/att-21-mbps-hspa-available-80-3g-footprint/2010-11-18
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joshnichols189 is correct. Here is why:
HSPA-15 on your phone refers to Network type, not the max download rate. See the codes posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029722
Download max on HSPA-15 (HSPA+ or 4G) are 42.2, 21.1, and 14.0
Download max on HSPA-10 (HSPA or 3G) is 7.2
For more on the true max speed, see this Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
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Here in SoCal and I'm on AT&T and I average about 5-7Mbps, highest I've gotten is 10Mbps.
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b vs B. If both of you stayed true to b = bit and B = byte, the highest you've ever gotten was only 1.25MB/s.
can anyone confirm all the posts online are not needed to get hspa+ on ATT with nexus 4? links like below say you need to have ATT do something with a fake IMEI since it couldnt detect mine and then set custom APN settings. My status bar says H but about this phone says HSPA+:15 for mobile network type. My phone when simw as inserted automatically set wap.cingular and all that and when i use speedtest.net app the ping comes back but fails to test the up and down speed. Any help is appreciated, i figure they people on this forum would know best.
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Currently thinking of leaving Verizon. I decided to give T-Mobile/metropcs a try... I can honestly say that I will be leaving sooner than later. Even though I can't access their LTE network their h+ 42.2 network is plenty fast... And at only $40 unlimited everything I don't think I can pass this deal up.
Anyone else out there on another carrier besides Verizon? What plan and how much does it cost... Verizon is killing my pockets... since my wife stopped working to stay home with the kids, looking for ways to save on every bill...
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Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat - no T-Mobile LTE, but do get HSPA+. I'm on the prepaid $30 100min/Unlimited Text+Data for T-Mobile. Unfortunately T-Mo coverage here is only decent along major roads, and the H+ speeds are not very consistent block-to-block. I'm probably going to just cancel the prepaid service since I only get Edge at my desk at work, which doesn't help me conserve data usage on my Verizon device, which was my intention.
My H+ speeds have ranged from about 400kbps all the way to 12mbps... potentially faster than my Verizon speeds on LTE. Just upsetting that the service is still too spotty to use it as my primary carrier.
I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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Well like you said, sometimes you have to make sacrifices. Do you have unlimited on Verizon? How much data do you need? I know that T-Mobile will give you unlimited but I'm thinking that if you don't need unlimited, you could switch to T-Mobile for now and then switch back to Verizon later on when finances are a bit more stable.
As long as T-Mobile serves your immediate needs, then it should be fine.
Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).
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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).
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Yeah at this point I am paying 180 for 2 lines and I could save about 80 if we went to T-Mobile. But there service is not worth the savings I don't think.
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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I believe it does have a 1700/2100 bands supported (per GSM Arena), and I do not think I'm in a re-farmed 1900 area. I had a T-Mobile SIM in a Sprint HTC One, DNA, and Lumia 822 and none were pulling in H+, just Edge or 3G.
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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The Maxx will not pick up 1700/2100 areas. Only the refarmed 1900. However it does support lte band 4 which will probably have its switch thrown later when vzw starts using their aws spectrum. It's not active now as far as I can tell because I can't get any better than H+ in Chicago which is entirely refarmed tmo and att doesn't trigger it either. My inkling is that vzw has that part of the radio turned off at the moment until they launch that portion of the network.
Image attached shows what the phone does support with the VZW radios.
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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Just because the chip supports it doesn't mean that it's active or usable. Look at the nexus and its lte if you need an example. My post above yours show what moto intends to allow for this device. It "could" support more but the bands aren't active.
What I'm curious about is if we can get this ***** unlocked... Can we pull the radio files from the Tmobile X to unlock the 1700/2100 and AWS LTE bands (which the phone does support but again, are inactive at the moment). We would lose the cdma bands but for the people switching to tmo... I don't think they'd care.
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You learn something new every day. Lol
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I have one in Canada and we have band 4 LTE on rogers and bell. I'm unable to get LTE. I'm hoping with root and radio flash or a Verizon update it can get lte working.
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If you go to T-Mobile as your sole provider, be prepared to say goodbye to any signal at all inside of office buildings, malls, warehouses, grocery stores, etc
I like my T-Mobile HTC One, but the amount of places in Los Angeles that are dead zones is very frustrating.
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.
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It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.
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When vzw does their aws rollout I expect that a software update will roll out with it and this will change. For now it is HSPA+ only.
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