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How to change data icon from H+ to 4G on CM10.1 Nightly's

Hey guys, I was just wondering if someone could help me out because I'm kinda ocd about seeing it as H+ instead of 4G for HSPA+. Thanks!
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HSPA+ isn't 4G.

MrLadoodle said:
HSPA+ isn't 4G.
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Coming from sprint it sure as hell is. 1mb is 4g to them. Anyway I get to 35mbps on hspa+ so I really don't get what your saying.
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Fataldesain said:
Coming from sprint it sure as hell is. 1mb is 4g to them. Anyway I get to 35mbps on hspa+ so I really don't get what your saying.
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I agree but the 3G/4G terminology is a bit screwed. The current "3G" release is 100x faster then the original 3G release. Yet the current 4G release is only 2.5x faster then the current 3G release.
Which is why Android refers to it as H. It should probably stay that way.
But I get 22Mbps on my N4 on DC-HSPA, which isn't as high as you, but I know how you feel. But I live on a continent that's completely GSM/HSPA/LTE, so I never really had the CDMA 3G problem.

Is there anyway to enable 3G/wcdma only after rebooting??
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Will T-Mobile's upcoming LTE affect the Nexus 4?

Hi, I hope you're well.
Please allow me to ask my stupid question of the day.
I am a T-Mobile post-paid customer on contract, and I am using a LG Nexus 4. T-Mobile will likely start having LTE soon, so I was wondering if that will affect the Nexus 4 in any way, positively or negatively (probably not negatively, but as I stated, this is a stupid question).
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Vic

probably not. lte capabilities were disabled in the .48 baseband which came with the 4.2.2 update.

Hard to say, as the Nexus 4 does not "officially" have LTE. Google disabled the limited LTE connectivity in the 4.2.2 update as the N4 was not approved by the FCC for LTE.
Unless Google refiles, I wouldn't expect any official LTE updates.
But, that doesn't mean you can't try out the older radios (that still have LTE) as some people have had success using them (no sensor issues or voice/sound issues).

Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic

VicVicVicx said:
Thanks for the replies!
I'm aware of the LTE capabilities being disabled by Google. Even if I use the older radios, will the LTE speed be significantly faster than the default HSPA+ speeds I've been experiencing?
Thanks!
Vic
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yes..

My N4 is being returned, but I did get 16mbit down yesterday on HSPA+, which is amazing to me considering my home caps out at like 12 I think. Frankly, considering the marginal real-world gain you would see on LTE, I think the phone is probably better off not using that LTE antenna.

cesar521 said:
yes..
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Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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XupModz said:
since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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Please please please stop saying that.
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chrisrozon said:
Please please please stop saying that.
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You can't handle the truth
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cesar521 said:
yes..
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Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Maybe they will introduce the nexus 4lte in the Google io.... Which is what all of us have now
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joshnichols189 said:
Great contribution. The LTE speed test someone posted the other day from T-Mobile LTE was significantly slower than my HSPA+:42 speeds in Chicago. The upload was faster but download was not.
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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.

RavenII said:
Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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You have to use the new apn, "Fast.T-Mobile.com" and change ipv4 to ipv4/ipv6. But the rest of the apn is the same as epc.tmobile.com.

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Where in Chicago do you get 42 HSPA+? I've only managed to hit 22 max. downhill with help from the wind.
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42 is the theoretical throughput, once you account for real world inefficiencies and data reserved for network services, 22 is a fantastic result.
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It really depends your area, on average lte will be faster especially upload. In most major cities LTE will probably smoke HSPA. The most I ever hit with HSPA was 18down 2up and lte was 56down 35 up in Toronto.
HSPA is no slouch though, just the upload is rough. If you upload a lot LTE is a must.
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XupModz said:
Not necessarily if you were me and getting 29mbps down and 9 up on H+ then you really wouldn't tell too much of a difference esp since we don't have All the necessary components for complete lte
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LTE pings are usually low. so stuff pops up faster on the phone compared to hspa+. You would not see much difference when downloading something because the down speeds aren't too different. As far as picture uploads are concerned, they will happen much faster w/ LTE.

Since T-Mobile will be launching lte

Will the nexus 4 be able to get it ?
Actually I set up the new lte APN
I forgot where i got it from but
I went into phone info
(*#*#4636#*#*)
And took the lte setting.
I did this bc I'm in a testing city(NYC)
I noticed a slight increase in data speed.
But can anyone confirm this
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Anyone in NYC ?
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Changing the network mode is not changing the APN. You need to go to APN settings and change the name to fast.tmobile.com and the APN protocol to IPv4/IPv6 and save it. Then do speed tests to confirm if you're getting LTE.
T-Mobile users have reported getting LTE in NYC but the network kicks them off about 15 mins later.
Yes the Nexus 4 will receive LTE.
APN setting can be found at Settings/More/Mobile networks/Access point names
Don't forget to be on a .33 or lower radio
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Would this be considered lte?
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jaestreetss said:
Would this be considered lte?
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By speed alone, nope. I've personally seen 25 down and 3 or so up on HSPA+.

No. When you go to results it should say LTE as your network. Your icon on top should say 4G too.
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Eddy130306 said:
Changing the network mode is not changing the APN. You need to go to APN settings and change the name to fast.tmobile.com and the APN protocol to IPv4/IPv6 and save it. Then do speed tests to confirm if you're getting LTE.
T-Mobile users have reported getting LTE in NYC but the network kicks them off about 15 mins later.
Yes the Nexus 4 will receive LTE.
APN setting can be found at Settings/More/Mobile networks/Access point names
Don't forget to be on a .33 or lower radio
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Hi eddy, could you clarify this? I was under the impression that the Nexus 4 doesn't have an LTE radio or something and every review video I watch says that "no LTE" is a downside along with the no microSD card and removable battery.
Are you saying that there will be a Nexus 4 LTE version released soon? (This is all for Tmobile btw)

kettlecorn said:
Hi eddy, could you clarify this? I was under the impression that the Nexus 4 doesn't have an LTE radio or something and every review video I watch says that "no LTE" is a downside along with the no microSD card and removable battery.
Are you saying that there will be a Nexus 4 LTE version released soon? (This is all for Tmobile btw)
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No no there won't be an LTE Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is already LTE, but you must be on android 4.2.1 or have root. Correct that there is no expandable memory or removable battery. Most reviews say that it doesn't have LTE either because they made the review before it was discovered or simply chose not to say because its not official and The N4 only supports carriers with LTE that have band 4 and that is only a few (T-Mobile and some Canadian carriers).
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For LTE, you can have the newest version of Android, but you must flash an older radio that still had LTE enabled. Then, you need to do what other people suggested, change your APN and radio settings.

Honestly I think HSPA+ is quite fast already. LTE is faster but do you really really really need it? It's cool to have and all. Most folks don't even know what LTE is or what it stands for. They just think "Oh it's super fast! I can download cat videos at super speeds!"
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scream4cheese said:
Honestly I think HSPA+ is quite fast already. LTE is faster but do you really really really need it? It's cool to have and all. Most folks don't even know what LTE is or what it stands for. They just think "Oh it's super fast! I can download cat videos at super speeds!"
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I found this post funny because your avatar is Jerry the mouse :good::laugh:
But LTE is just another feature that tmo released. Nothing more than faster speeds and faster killing of your battery on LTE. LOL

I am content with HSPA+ for downloads but LTE would come in handy for uploads which are quite slow on HSPA+.
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Eddy130306 said:
No no there won't be an LTE Nexus 4. The Nexus 4 is already LTE, but you must be on android 4.2.1 or have root. Correct that there is no expandable memory or removable battery. Most reviews say that it doesn't have LTE either because they made the review before it was discovered or simply chose not to say because its not official and The N4 only supports carriers with LTE that have band 4 and that is only a few (T-Mobile and some Canadian carriers).
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Oh gotcha thanks. Yeah that's really cool for Tmobile customers I guess since it may future proof the device a little bit more now that TMobile is getting ready to roll out their LTE sometime in the next year. (or few months if what they claim is truth)

kettlecorn said:
Oh gotcha thanks. Yeah that's really cool for Tmobile customers I guess since it may future proof the device a little bit more now that TMobile is getting ready to roll out their LTE sometime in the next year. (or few months if what they claim is truth)
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They're already rolling LTE as we are speaking. We should see more cities with LTE by the end of this year. They won't stop until the cover the whole country. AT&T, Sprint and Verizon are still rolling out LTE. Lol
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Not understanding the nexus 4 and its 4g restrictions

So I read in most forums and it seems to me that you can get 4g but at the cost of Google now not working. I'm just a bit confused. I've had my nexus 4 for about 2 weeks now. 3g only. Currently on T-Mobile what I was wondering is that how come my box says 4g but I'm only getting 3g and I checked best buys website and they're selling nexus 4 and in the description it says it has 4g.
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FeintDoxx said:
So I read in most forums and it seems to me that you can get 4g but at the cost of Google now not working. I'm just a bit confused. I've had my nexus 4 for about 2 weeks now. 3g only. Currently on T-Mobile what I was wondering is that how come my box says 4g but I'm only getting 3g and I checked best buys website and they're selling nexus 4 and in the description it says it has 4g.
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they call hspa+ 4G. while its technically 3G(or 3.5G), it can be very fast too, so they call it 4G. ive gotten data speed as fast as 30mbps for download on hspa+ in my area. i think that you are thinking lte, which is also considered 4G. they are just different technology.

simms22 said:
they call hspa+ 4G. while its technically 3G(or 3.5G), it can be very fast too, so they call it 4G. ive gotten data speed as fast as 30mbps for download on hspa+ in my area. i think that you are thinking lte, which is also considered 4G. they are just different technology.
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Yup this ^^^
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Ahh okay thanks that makes sense. Thanked:thumbup:
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In fact it's got a LTE modem inside so it was possible to connect but no specific amplifiers for 4G signal, also the newest update from Google rendered it unusable.
HSPA+ 21/42 is fast enough, as said above, I guess.

What everyone above me said. For what it's worth, for most people, hspa+ is more than fast enough. There is nothing you'd do on a phone than warrants needing faster internet than your at home cable internet lol

panaut0lordv said:
In fact it's got a LTE modem inside so it was possible to connect but no specific amplifiers for 4G signal, also the newest update from Google rendered it unusable.
HSPA+ 21/42 is fast enough, as said above, I guess.
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False information.
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Testing Maxx on Tmobile/MetroPcs

Currently thinking of leaving Verizon. I decided to give T-Mobile/metropcs a try... I can honestly say that I will be leaving sooner than later. Even though I can't access their LTE network their h+ 42.2 network is plenty fast... And at only $40 unlimited everything I don't think I can pass this deal up.
Anyone else out there on another carrier besides Verizon? What plan and how much does it cost... Verizon is killing my pockets... since my wife stopped working to stay home with the kids, looking for ways to save on every bill...
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Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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Sounds like a smart plan. I am on VZW and have great LTE unlimited coverage on several lines . Can't justify switching. My bill is nasty....like a $350/month nasty after 30% service discount.
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I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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craigbailey1986 said:
I have great LTE coverage too. That's what has me so hesitant. But I guess some sacrifices have to be made....
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat - no T-Mobile LTE, but do get HSPA+. I'm on the prepaid $30 100min/Unlimited Text+Data for T-Mobile. Unfortunately T-Mo coverage here is only decent along major roads, and the H+ speeds are not very consistent block-to-block. I'm probably going to just cancel the prepaid service since I only get Edge at my desk at work, which doesn't help me conserve data usage on my Verizon device, which was my intention.
My H+ speeds have ranged from about 400kbps all the way to 12mbps... potentially faster than my Verizon speeds on LTE. Just upsetting that the service is still too spotty to use it as my primary carrier.

I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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craigbailey1986 said:
I am here in ga and it is pretty good... Not Verizon good but good none the less... I just don't know what am going to do when I leave Verizon. Their service is top notch...
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Well like you said, sometimes you have to make sacrifices. Do you have unlimited on Verizon? How much data do you need? I know that T-Mobile will give you unlimited but I'm thinking that if you don't need unlimited, you could switch to T-Mobile for now and then switch back to Verizon later on when finances are a bit more stable.
As long as T-Mobile serves your immediate needs, then it should be fine.

Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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craigbailey1986 said:
Yeah don't need unlimited. Its just a means to help get the bills lower. I just hate to give up Verizon. If I want to upgrade I will be forced to pay full price. But I also wanted the nexus 5 so I give it's a win win
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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).

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I had trouble dropping my Sprint SERO line, but hopping on someone's Share Everything plan on Verizon was really the cheaper way to go. I liked only paying $50 for unlimited LTE, but it was just an extra bill that wasn't necessary (as I was on both Sprint and Verizon at that point).
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Yeah at this point I am paying 180 for 2 lines and I could save about 80 if we went to T-Mobile. But there service is not worth the savings I don't think.
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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).

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The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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I believe it does have a 1700/2100 bands supported (per GSM Arena), and I do not think I'm in a re-farmed 1900 area. I had a T-Mobile SIM in a Sprint HTC One, DNA, and Lumia 822 and none were pulling in H+, just Edge or 3G.

Ualdayan said:
The Maxx doesn't support 1700/2100Mhz does it? Eg you only get HSPA+ if you live in an area Tmobile has refarmed? (Unfortunately Tmobile doesn't own enough spectrum where I live to refarm any of their 1900Mhz spectrum, still a 21Mbps HSPA area too since Tmobile doesn't own enough to make 42Mbps work - central TN).
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The Maxx will not pick up 1700/2100 areas. Only the refarmed 1900. However it does support lte band 4 which will probably have its switch thrown later when vzw starts using their aws spectrum. It's not active now as far as I can tell because I can't get any better than H+ in Chicago which is entirely refarmed tmo and att doesn't trigger it either. My inkling is that vzw has that part of the radio turned off at the moment until they launch that portion of the network.
Image attached shows what the phone does support with the VZW radios.
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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This is what is capable as per Wiki's snapdragon thread. Although the chip is advertised as Motorola x8, after some digging I found the actual model number. It's msm8960DT
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Just because the chip supports it doesn't mean that it's active or usable. Look at the nexus and its lte if you need an example. My post above yours show what moto intends to allow for this device. It "could" support more but the bands aren't active.
What I'm curious about is if we can get this ***** unlocked... Can we pull the radio files from the Tmobile X to unlock the 1700/2100 and AWS LTE bands (which the phone does support but again, are inactive at the moment). We would lose the cdma bands but for the people switching to tmo... I don't think they'd care.
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You learn something new every day. Lol
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I have one in Canada and we have band 4 LTE on rogers and bell. I'm unable to get LTE. I'm hoping with root and radio flash or a Verizon update it can get lte working.
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If you go to T-Mobile as your sole provider, be prepared to say goodbye to any signal at all inside of office buildings, malls, warehouses, grocery stores, etc
I like my T-Mobile HTC One, but the amount of places in Los Angeles that are dead zones is very frustrating.
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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will the Verizon maxx work on gsm, or you have to unlock it?
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It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.

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It is unlocked out of the box for GSM networks - just no LTE.
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When vzw does their aws rollout I expect that a software update will roll out with it and this will change. For now it is HSPA+ only.
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