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I'm on KA5.
I'm assuming that I can't plug into mini kies and update KA6 official.
So, would updating to KA6 via ODIN (the pure stock file in the dev forum) be IDENTICAL to flashing back to the previous OTA and then updating to KA6 via mini Kies?
Would there be anything different at all (bootloader, modem, rom, etc)?
Seems like just flashing KA6 via ODIN would be an easy way to go for anyone who's not currently "stock".
lexluthor said:
I'm on KA5.
I'm assuming that I can't plug into mini kies and update KA6 official.
So, would updating to KA6 via ODIN (the pure stock file in the dev forum) be IDENTICAL to flashing back to the previous OTA and then updating to KA6 via mini Kies?
Would there be anything different at all (bootloader, modem, rom, etc)?
Seems like just flashing KA6 via ODIN would be an easy way to go for anyone who's not currently "stock".
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if you flashed ka6 via odin, then your phone will not be recognized on mini kies, it will say "unregistered device" or no upgrade available..
both ka6 on kies and the one here on xda are the same... i suggest if you are on ka5 not stock and want to upgrade to ka6... then flashed via odin without a pit file and no repartition.. so you would be on ka6 retaining your current set up..
but wait for the experts' answers.. they could help you better , coz i could be wrong about this
I figured I can't upgrade KA5 to KA6 via Kies, but if I do upgrade it via ODIN is my phone, at that point, indistinguishable from someone who upgraded from the previous stock to KA6 via Kies.
Does that make sense? Will I be exactly at the same point as the other scenario?
lexluthor said:
I figured I can't upgrade KA5 to KA6 via Kies, but if I do upgrade it via ODIN is my phone, at that point, indistinguishable from someone who upgraded from the previous stock to KA6 via Kies.
Does that make sense? Will I be exactly at the same point as the other scenario?
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ya that didnt make sense.. im kidding..
well if you already updated to ka6 via odin.. then mini kies wont let you upgrade anymore.. it will say 'unregstered device' or no upgrade available..
the only way for a phone to be recognized on mini kies is if the phone is on j16 firmware or jfd.. otherwise it wont upgarde at all if you are already on ka5/ka6
but if you want to upgarde your current ka5 settings (non stock) to ka6, then flash ka6 via odin without a pit file and do not tick repartition..
Ok, I guess that answers my question.
I'll just update to KA6 via ODIN and I should be indentical to everyone getting it from kies.
So why are people who aren't on stock talking about going backwards to get the update from Kies? If you aren't on stock, you must already know ODIN.
Seems way easier to just do it that way.
lexluthor said:
Ok, I guess that answers my question.
I'll just update to KA6 via ODIN and I should be indentical to everyone getting it from kies.
So why are people who aren't on stock talking about going backwards to get the update from Kies? If you aren't on stock, you must already know ODIN.
Seems way easier to just do it that way.
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because these people thought that kies will have a different firmware available instaed of ka6? i was surprised too when i plugged my phone in and it said ka6 on mini kies.. i was expecting another firmware version..
come to think of it, i think ka6 is not a final build, like unfinished... there is no android keyboard.. heptic feedback is feeble (unless sammy changed it to that)..
so im on stock ka6 right now(updated via kies) and using touchwiz, i normally use adw ex,but im using touchwiz and hoping i'll get the OTA and a different version of froyo?
not even sure if i'll still get an OTA update as im already on "official" froyo ka6..LOL
I cound't update via kies.
Find sombionix's Bionix ota 2.2 ROM..
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bosslabs said:
Find sombionix's Bionix ota 2.2 ROM..
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Is this a stock rom or a modified rom? Actually , I need the stock rom.
Btw, thx a lot.
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bosslabs said:
Find sombionix's Bionix ota 2.2 ROM..
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He asked for a stock ROM, why suggest that?
You can find KA6 stock here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919687
Apply using ODIN.
OP, not to sound rude... just look in the dev section for the ODIN and CWR flashable versions.
s15274n said:
OP, not to sound rude... just look in the dev section for the ODIN and CWR flashable versions.
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Just to back the OP a litte...
I'm not even sure what the stock 2.2 is. All this talk of KA6 and KA7 and on top of that all the leaked or not... and people tossing out flash this rom or flash that rom.. it gets confusing when your not used to this. If you go in to the developers section and look, nothing is labeled "stock 2.2 cwm flash able" and when you search for it, you get a bunch of old links to non official 2.2.
I never looked for it till OP asked. I'm happy with the rom im running right now, but I feel your confusion OP.
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There is also usually at least one clear cut thread on how to get the update and how to root the update. Maybe ill put this together.
yeah some people might need the stock rom to make warranty claims.
I would sure love to know why it is being said that KA7 is "official froyo OTA." I don't believe I have heard Samsung or T-mobile even mention KA7 so how would anyone know?
Again, this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919687
contains the file to ODIN that will get you to exactly where you would get if you upgraded via mini kies.
In other words, ODIN that file and you will be on "current stock version"
lexluthor said:
Again, this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919687
contains the file to ODIN that will get you to exactly where you would get if you upgraded via mini kies.
In other words, ODIN that file and you will be on "current stock version"
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So right now there is no flashable version of the official stock 2.2?
Hey guys!
So I took your advice, bit the bullet, and rooted my phone despite potentially losing my warranty. One thing that I was hearing around these forums is that 2.3.4 solves a lot of issues, is that true? If so, I would really like to upgrade. Now that I have a rooted phone, is there anything different to go about doing that? Can I upgrade or would I also have to install a customer kernel again? AND if there is one, which one?
Thanks guys!
Shawn
Just flash to 2.3.4, then re-root again like you did before. No difference.
you don't have to root your phone to install official leaked 2.3.4 rom. Root is required only for cooked roms.
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Since you have a rooted phone, just use CWM and load a 2.3.4 rom.
Sorry if i am off topic but new here and still confused with the famous root...
My phone is not root yet but thinking to flash to the 2.3.4 thru KIES, so my question is if i upgrade can i go back to 2.3.3 if i don't like it ???
Thanks in advance...
wcharon said:
Sorry if i am off topic but new here and still confused with the famous root...
My phone is not root yet but thinking to flash to the 2.3.4 thru KIES, so my question is if i upgrade can i go back to 2.3.3 if i don't like it ???
Thanks in advance...
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Yes you can downgrade... 2.3.4 is not so different than 2.3.3, however, you can't downgrade via KIES, you have to use Odin and old firmware.
So, now that I have rooted my phone, can I use KIES to upgrade, or do I have to use CWS? I really want that 2.3.4 upgrade after I heard how much better the battery life is with the upgrade.
You can, Kies won't recognize rooted/non-rooted device as long as you are on Stock ROM.
Hmmm, so KIES says that my version of the phone cannot be upgraded...
At this point, what do I do? I've been looking around and can't figure out a few things... Can someone recommend me to the exact ROM I will need to install to get this working? Once I update the ROM, will I have to do another root process? I imagine no, because from what I know, rooting just overrides the kernel, and a ROM comes with a kernel. Correct me if I'm wrong!
wcharon said:
Sorry if i am off topic but new here and still confused with the famous root...
My phone is not root yet but thinking to flash to the 2.3.4 thru KIES, so my question is if i upgrade can i go back to 2.3.3 if i don't like it ???
Thanks in advance...
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Make sure you type *#1234# in the keypad and record down the PDA, Phone and CSC versions before you update. Make sure you are able to find that exact version on Intratech's stock ROM thread. With this, you can flash back to 2.3.3 if you don't like 2.3.4 using Odin without losing any of your data.
shawnjan8 said:
So, now that I have rooted my phone, can I use KIES to upgrade, or do I have to use CWS? I really want that 2.3.4 upgrade after I heard how much better the battery life is with the upgrade.
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You can upgrade either through KIES, CWM or Odin. Personally I prefer Odin because there are many no-wipe stock ROMs out there in a 1 file package suitable for flashing using ODIN.
shawnjan8 said:
Hmmm, so KIES says that my version of the phone cannot be upgraded...
At this point, what do I do? I've been looking around and can't figure out a few things... Can someone recommend me to the exact ROM I will need to install to get this working? Once I update the ROM, will I have to do another root process? I imagine no, because from what I know, rooting just overrides the kernel, and a ROM comes with a kernel. Correct me if I'm wrong!
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Type *#1234# in the keypad and post what is written for PDA, Phone and CSC.
Then go to your settings, About phone page and post what your kernel version is.
I have rooted my phone using the same version kernel as my stock ROM and KIES could still update the phone.
Sleepycat3 said:
Type *#1234# in the keypad and post what is written for PDA, Phone and CSC.
Then go to your settings, About phone page and post what your kernel version is.
I have rooted my phone using the same version kernel as my stock ROM and KIES could still update the phone.
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Sure here is the info:
PDA: I9100MUGKG2
PHONE: I9100MUGKG2
CSC: I9100MBMCKG2
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9100ZSKG2-CL361136 [email protected] #6
after a couple of Fails rooting my Gs4
i thought let go back to stock !
but all that happens when i try to install the stock fw i get this
sw rew. check fail :fused : 2 Binary : 1
and then its over.
what have i done wrong ?
You're very unlucky.You have already update new bootloader by Samsung.
And currently can not going back Rom before.You can flash rom MH8 by ODIN
Thanks
ohh snap
that is bad
can you tell me what you mean by this
"You can flash rom MH8"
fordrykker said:
ohh snap
that is bad
can you tell me what you mean by this
"You can flash rom MH8"
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Samsung OTA'ed a few new roms, around the 4th of September. Unfortunately they supplied a new bootloader in the firmware updates that locked things down. You can't go back to lower firmware than the firmware on now. As it is the latest firmware you can't regress back to a lower version. MH8 is the best known version with the new bootloader but I have heard of other roms released around the same time, around the world, with different revision numbers, MGG may also be affected but not sure where....
If you have in fact got a new bootloader then you are in essence stuck with the new firmware until such time as it can be circumvented....
The new roms can be rooted however but you still can't flash an older rom on, not and expect it to work....
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Samsung OTA'ed a few new roms, around the 4th of September. Unfortunately they supplied a new bootloader in the firmware updates that locked things down. You can't go back to lower firmware than the firmware on now. As it is the latest firmware you can't regress back to a lower version. MH8 is the best known version with the new bootloader but I have heard of other roms released around the same time, around the world, with different revision numbers, MGG may also be affected but not sure where....
If you have in fact got a new bootloader then you are in essence stuck with the new firmware until such time as it can be circumvented....
The new roms can be rooted however but you still can't flash an older rom on, not and expect it to work....
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okay thanks for that info that helped me understand what went wrong..
now the question am i still able to root with other softwares?
fordrykker said:
okay thanks for that info that helped me understand what went wrong..
now the question am i still able to root with other softwares?
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From what I was reading MH8 was rootable using Chainfire's cf-aoturoot flashed via ODIN.
Thankyou Chainfire....
ultramag69 said:
From what I was reading MH8 was rootable using Chainfire's cf-aoturoot flashed via ODIN.
Thankyou Chainfire....
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yes but some apps have problems with root access on mh8 because of samsungs selinux=strict bullsh*t
om22 said:
yes but some apps have problems with root access on mh8 because of samsungs selinux=strict bullsh*t
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Yep, but then that's part of the new bootloader... Until it gets cracked so we can either replace it with an older bootloader or modified so it can be used, people who updated to the new bootloader will just have to live with it...
Yippee for you...:silly::crying:
I have owned samsung phones since the original s1 and it's always been easy to flash a stock rom using odin.whenever I had a problem with my current rom or soft bricked I just downloaded the tar odin file flashed pda in odin and went back to 100% stock. But I cannot for the love of God seem to find this easy on at&t s4. A buddy gave me his s4 to update it to latest 4.3 but cannot find any odin tars for any of the 4.3 updates..and when I find it why is it split up by recovery/bootloader etc? So my question is how do i go from 4.2.2 to 4.3 using odin, because he cannot do it via kies or ota
euklid said:
I have owned samsung phones since the original s1 and it's always been easy to flash a stock rom using odin.whenever I had a problem with my current rom or soft bricked I just downloaded the tar odin file flashed pda in odin and went back to 100% stock. But I cannot for the love of God seem to find this easy on at&t s4. A buddy gave me his s4 to update it to latest 4.3 but cannot find any odin tars for any of the 4.3 updates..and when I find it why is it split up by recovery/bootloader etc? So my question is how do i go from 4.2.2 to 4.3 using odin, because he cannot do it via kies or ota
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There is no 4.3. First off, if he's on MDL then you should root and get recovery and use the StockUp ROM, because that way he'll get 4.3 MK2 but also be able to change ROMs to something like Cyanogemnod. If he already has MF3 then there's a nice clear thread with "UPDATE.ZIP" in the title you can find in the general section with all the information you should need.
DeadlySin9 said:
There is no 4.3. First off, if he's on MDL then you should root and get recovery and use the StockUp ROM, because that way he'll get 4.3 MK2 but also be able to change ROMs to something like Cyanogemnod. If he already has MF3 then there's a nice clear thread with "UPDATE.ZIP" in the title you can find in the general section with all the information you should need.
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what do you mean there's no 4.3, you mean an odin image of 4.3?? thats what I meant why is it that on my t-mobile s4 they have the complete image of the stock rom, is it because att version has a locked bootloader?? I never had to mess with update.zip files ever on a samsung phone, excuse my ignorance.
euklid said:
what do you mean there's no 4.3, you mean an odin image of 4.3?? thats what I meant why is it that on my t-mobile s4 they have the complete image of the stock rom, is it because att version has a locked bootloader?? I never had to mess with update.zip files ever on a samsung phone, excuse my ignorance.
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He told you where to look.
scott14719 said:
He told you where to look.
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I know where to look now thanks, my originally question is why we even have to bother with update.zip instead of just flashing 1 odin file that has complete stock rom like in all other samsung phones.
euklid said:
I know where to look now thanks, my originally question is why we even have to bother with update.zip instead of just flashing 1 odin file that has complete stock rom like in all other samsung phones.
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Locked bootloader. There is tons of informative threads about it in the general, q&a, development, original development. and developer's only sub-forums.
euklid said:
what do you mean there's no 4.3, you mean an odin image of 4.3?? thats what I meant why is it that on my t-mobile s4 they have the complete image of the stock rom, is it because att version has a locked bootloader?? I never had to mess with update.zip files ever on a samsung phone, excuse my ignorance.
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Yes, i meant no ODIN image. There's a locked bootloader and they're trying so hard to keep us from modifying it they make it so you can only get repairs through the Samsung centers and such where they check if you tried to mod it and are supposed to not do anything to help you if you did. As scott said, you can find plenty more information around and probably better explanations than my theories.
I think the last full stock rom was I337UCUAMDL or just MDL. Since then though, each update has been just merely that, an update or patch. So there isnt a full rom of 4.3 MK2. Your best bet, which i just did yesterday, is to use Ted77USA's thread on the bricked MK2, third post in his thread. Follow this link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573080&nocache=1 Again pay attention to it all. Worked out very well for me and my issue. Sure it should be as easy for you.