hi all, ever since i had my original Touch HD replaced by orange as it got damaged in work, the replacement has pretty much always had an oily looking substance visible under the screen. it causes no problems and is only visible when the screen is off but i was wondering what it might be and if i can get rid of it as i'm due my upgrade next month and want to maxmise the resale value of my phone.
any help would be great, thanks in advance
Anyone? 79 views and I'm the only one with this issue
If it was a replacement, it was probably a refurb unit. The oily substance might be some cleaning fluid used when reassembling the phone, and not removed properly.
It shouldn't be there, there's unlikely any way to get rid of it without disassembling the unit. Best bet is to send it back to Orange and complain.
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If it was a replacement, it was probably a refurb unit. The oily substance might be some cleaning fluid used when reassembling the phone, and not removed properly.
It shouldn't be there, there's unlikely any way to get rid of it without disassembling the unit. Best bet is to send it back to Orange and complain.
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Thanks for the reply, same sort of lines along what I was thinking, either that or something like excess sweat getting held in the small layer of air trapped in the touchscreen used on these. I think my brother is going to buy it as it is as soon as I get a new phone so I doubt I'll bother going to Orange about it, and incur another £25 insurance excess. Thanks
Its a newton ring, where it's either overheated through use in the past or (if you believe HTC) it's from applying too much pressure to the screen.
It will show up more under flourescent light.
If you're still in the returns period of the phone, send it back and ask for another, if you're past that (thus giving them the ability to say it was fine when they sent you it) then there is a thread on here which describes clearing the rings using a lighter.
If you're going to try that, find the thread for the full instructions.
Both my blackstones developed the rings, neither of them had excessive pressure applied to the screen, but they do get very hot using tomtom while charging in the car.
Tried a warranty repair from HTC, they demanded £180 and denied it could be anything other than too much pressure, so tried a warranty repair through carphone warehouse (the shop was being refurbed when I first had the problem which is why they suggested I went direct to HTC).
The phone came back untouched, they'd sent it to HTC for repair, HTC sent it back saying "no pixel errors found" so the hadn't even read the fault description from CPWH. I ended up claiming for a new one on my insurance citing water damage at CPWH's advice.
The replacement also developed a long ring up the middle of the screen, managed to clear it with a screen protector as this flexes the layers of the screen and pulls them tightly together.
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Its a newton ring, where it's either overheated through use in the past or (if you believe HTC) it's from applying too much pressure to the screen.
It will show up more under flourescent light.
If you're still in the returns period of the phone, send it back and ask for another, if you're past that (thus giving them the ability to say it was fine when they sent you it) then there is a thread on here which describes clearing the rings using a lighter.
If you're going to try that, find the thread for the full instructions.
Both my blackstones developed the rings, neither of them had excessive pressure applied to the screen, but they do get very hot using tomtom while charging in the car.
Tried a warranty repair from HTC, they demanded £180 and denied it could be anything other than too much pressure, so tried a warranty repair through carphone warehouse (the shop was being refurbed when I first had the problem which is why they suggested I went direct to HTC).
The phone came back untouched, they'd sent it to HTC for repair, HTC sent it back saying "no pixel errors found" so the hadn't even read the fault description from CPWH. I ended up claiming for a new one on my insurance citing water damage at CPWH's advice.
The replacement also developed a long ring up the middle of the screen, managed to clear it with a screen protector as this flexes the layers of the screen and pulls them tightly together.
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Thats really helpful, thank you for clearing it up. Yes the oily substance on mine is right down the middle of the screen and moves when any pressure is applied to the screen. It doesn't hamper the phones performance in any way and cannot be seen at all when the screen is lit up and considering that claiming a replacement on my insurance will cost me £25 and I've been offered £100 for the phone as it is I'll probably just wait for my upgrade on the 13th. My dad has just passed away this week and I can't really be doing with any more hassle or bills so I'll make do, its been there for about 7 months without really bothering me.
If I leave it will it cause any major problems or have any side effects to the phones performance in any way as it is all working perfect at the moment?
Sorry for your loss.
If its not interfering with the screen's response (mine doesn't but my first HD was much worse and prevented typing) then I'd leave it be, get the upgrade (go for a HD2 unless you want android) and sell your HD.
Same crap with mine.... Newton rings? How about ring of death!
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Sorry for your loss.
If its not interfering with the screen's response (mine doesn't but my first HD was much worse and prevented typing) then I'd leave it be, get the upgrade (go for a HD2 unless you want android) and sell your HD.
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I would go for the HD2 but I fear WinMo is slowly on its way out, there's virtually no new games come out for it and everyone either seems to be jumping ship to the iphone (sorry to swear so openly on the forum) or android. I have been thinking of trying the Samsung Galaxy S or possibly HTC desire but I've still got a few weeks to work it out. What do HD's go for now used? Mine is fully unlocked and comes with a few accessories like the in car holder and charger and has an 8GB MicroSD card with it
Well, given the tech specs of the HD2, chances are it won't be long into WP7's life before a rom is released to work on that, otherwise you can run android on it.
Personally, I've kept mine stock other than installing SPB mobile shell 3.5
There's the star trek game, spider man, transformers, worms (oh that is so much fun).
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I sent my Imate JasJar in to the repair company in the UK (SBE). The problem was an extremely loose screen hinge. It was so loose that the screen would move freely past the usual 180 degree stop. It would also click when opening and closing the screen.
I decided to email Imate and ask there opinion on what to do about this. They immediately responded saying that I should send it in for repair, and they duely issued me with an RMA number, and procedure for getting it shipped to SBE. All of which I did with no problem at all. so far so good.
7 days later, and I get a letter in the post from SBE, stating that they have found the screen to be dead and have replaced some screen connectors, and that it is not covered under warranty and that I now owe them £40 before they will repair and send it back to me. They have got to be kidding me..
There has never been any form of electrical problem with the device whatsoever. I only had a purely mechanical fault that I-Mate themselves agreed to fix under RMA conditions.
I am absolutely furious, as I have tried to get hold of the i-mate representatives on 4 occasions with no success. I think they are ignoring me now. And i cant even get through to SBE on the telephone..
What the hell is going on.......I bought this device at considerable cost, for the price of a small laptop, and it has lasted me less than 3 months, and now I have this to deal with....
Anyone have any contacts within Imate or SBE that I can talk to? Or any advice for me in progressing this further.
I dread to think what my JasJar will look like when and if I ever get it back. Not to mention the fact that I've been without it for 2 weeks now, and that is very hard to deal with in itself.
My advice to anyone who is considering buying one of these devices would be - what a great bit of kit, has its little quirks, but nothing you cant work around, well worth buying, only dont buy it from I-Mate, go for the Orange, O2 or T-Mobile versions, because at least you will be able to use there warranty channels.
I'd keep trying Imate. Be polite but firm in your emails, ask if they authorised the repair of the screen and state that as far as you were aware this has been done when there was no fault there in the first place with no authorisation from you...
Then
It might not be a bad idea to write to SBE enclosing a copy of your original email to Imate describing the fault you had.
State very clearly in the letter that there was no screen fault when you sent the unit to them and that they have 7 days to repair the device and return it to you in a fully functioning state.
Copy everything you have on this then pass it all on to your local trading standards... you must give a company you have issues with reasonable time to respond, so 7 days should be fair enough.
I'm presuming here that you definitely didn't have a fault with the screen?
If Imate have told them to repair it under warranty I don't see why they are trying to charge you, if Imate or you didn't authorise the repair to the screen then the company doesn't really have a leg to stand on and trading standards should be involved. I can't see why dead screen wouldn't be covered by a warranty anyway..
It's concerning me, my MDA pro is currently away to fix this very issue (a dead screen).
Lots of people have problems with I-Mate support. Look here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=6599566#post6599566
oh boy! this worries me too as my Jasjar was already shipped to be replaced.
If it's been damaged in transit, then presumably the next step is to claim on the postal insurance you used.
Joe
warranty claim honoured, arrives back tonight
I've managed to convince them (Imate and SBE) that this is indeed a warranty claim, and they have now agreed to repair it as such.
They're trying to tell me that normally this type of damage is not covered under warranty, but will make an exception - this time only. (can you believe it)
All I know is that when I sent it in to them it had a mechanical fault that they originally agreed to repair under warranty and duely issued an RMA number. There was never any type of dead display (this is what they claim).
I've fought hard to get them to agree to repair it, what a battle it's been.
I only hope that when I receive it tonight, it will be in good condition, and look as it did when I sent it in, except of course for a repaired hinge.
I'll report back tonight when I recieve it.....
good luck.
I received a replacement MDA pro yesterday, after my screen died, under warranty, however the space key is dodgy on the new one, I'll see how I get on with it for the next week and decide whether to return it or not!
faulty, sent it back...ggrrrrr
Unpacked and examined it thoroughly, first impressions were.....very good, they have actually replaced the whole display case and hinge, looks gr8, and hinge is now very tight, as it should be. so far so good, but wait.....
Installed battery and powered it up......the screen is displaying everything upside down and back to front......can't believe it.
I soft reset it.....no difference.. I hard reset it....no success, still the same.
I even tried re flashing the firmware with factory imate release, but still the same......
I tried the screen in every possible position, but no matter what I do, still the same inverted bloody image.
I'm so pissed off. I've sent it back in to them for another round.
So much for quality control.
Will keep you guys updated.
I can add to this...
I do repair phones and there was one case in which Jasjar was rotating 360 deg and everything on the screen was looking as a mirror image..
If u carefully look at the manual u will see that there's a bunch of cable which pass thru a small hole and then again spread in the touch screen panel part...
the hinge is actually revetted and locked..but if somebody applies a bit of pressure the revet loses the grip and thus allows 360 deg rotation..
but by doing this it twists the wires so much that they get stressed and do not pass right info to the display..
What I did I untangled the bunch and I got back the screen working fine...only the switch outside(for taking and rejecting call when screen is shut) are not working....but everything is just fine...
so people at service center might not hv done their job perfectly
Re: faulty, sent it back...ggrrrrr
I sent an Imate sp3i to SBE and the hamfisted numptys cracked the aeriel cover when they removed it. Also, the chewed up the warranty sticker removing the screw and didn't apply a new one. Sadly I only noticed the cracked aeriel cover when taking it out of SBE's packing box 5 weeks later - I'd only done a cursory check on the fault repair when it arrived :-(
Warranty Issue
If you are going to check on jasjar when you buy it, it comes with a sticker in front giving you instruction to rotate the screen 180 degrees clockwise. When you try to rotate it the other way around, the coaxial cable that connects the lcd to the board panel will break giving you a white screen or sometimes display is there but touch screen is not responding. When the technician opens the device he will see it immidiately and from there they will consider it customer abuse meaning you voided the warranty and you will be charged for the repair
Warranty Issue
If you are going to check on jasjar when you buy it, it comes with a sticker in front giving you instruction to rotate the screen 180 degrees clockwise. When you try to rotate it the other way around, the coaxial cable that connects the lcd to the board panel will break giving you a white screen or sometimes display is there but touch screen is not responding. When the technician opens the device he will see it immidiately and from there they will consider it customer abuse meaning you voided the warranty and you will be charged for the repair
For the love of god....surely we dont have such stupid people in this world.
Latest Update: SBE say that the machine has failed quality control and is with the technicians.
They won't tell me anything more...I'll just to have wait and see what they blame it on this time. No doubt they'll come up with some **** and bull story blaming me in one way or another, and then try to charge me too.
Will keep you updated when I find out more. There is no sense of urgency with this company, so frustrating. At least my Sony Ericsson P900 is holding up perfectly while I wait.
I have to say the QC on these devices is very poor.
MDA #1: Clicking hinge, something to do with the plastic shell at the back where the USB port is I thought.
MDA #2: Metal plate not glued in correct and scaping my face during calls (it's quite a sharp edge)
MDA #3: Dodgy keyboard - keys sticking out and whole keyboard set at a rotated angle.
MDA #4: Dogdy hinge again, very loose, looked like a refurb to me
MDA #5: Camera fault - big white blown pixel in camera itself (not the screen)
Result? I got a Vario and took up the early Jan O2 Exec offer. Exec is fine by the way, but they creak more than MDA's (dunno why).
Vario is def. built more solidly. And the P900 you mentioned keeping you going just demonstrates the quality differences. A P900/910 is one of the few phones which will withstand a nuclear holocaust (probly) and is built like a brick sh*thouse.
Sony build em like Merc's and HTC build em like Vauxhalls (Holden for our antipodean friends, and Opel for our European friends).
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I've just been told that they're(SBE) awaiting spares from Dubai, but they cant tell me what's wrong with it????? so who knows how long this will take.
This is so frustrating, but hey I've got my trusty P900.
I've been told that they are still awaiting spares which should arrive by the end of next week. ???????? (They tell me 6 weeks to get the shipment in)
Can't f&*%ing believe this, do they send the spares over via ship? how can they expect a customer to be without a device for 2 months....This is a complete joke. Why don't they send them airmail.
They tell me that they have to replace the complete system board. Surely it would be easier to simply send me a new device??? Surely I can demand a new device?
I'm certainly going to get in touch with I-Mate again (3 million'th time), I will demand a replacement device.
GGrrrrr................
I received my JasJar tonight.......Yehaa, at last, only two months later...
Despite my reservations and lack of trust in SBE, I have to say that they got it right this time around.
They've replaced the complete system board and as a result I have a new IMEI number too. In addition to this, they had previously replaced the entire screen housing and hinge, so the phone is, and looks as good as new.
I'm in the process of putting it back to my liking with all upgrades/software/hacks, but so far all is functioning really well.
I'm happy again, i just hope it lasts this time around.
Thanks to all for listening to my problems
I received my JasJar tonight.......Yehaa, at last, only two months later...
Despite my reservations and lack of trust in SBE, I have to say that they got it right this time around.
They've replaced the complete system board and as a result I have a new IMEI number too. In addition to this, they had previously replaced the entire screen housing and hinge, so the phone is, and looks as good as new.
I'm in the process of putting it back to my liking with all upgrades/software/hacks, but so far all is functioning really well.
I'm happy again, i just hope it lasts this time around.
Thanks to all for listening to my problems
I too had a equally bad experince with SBE (7 weeks, 2 returns, 10 phone calls and the threat of reporting them to trading standards before my phone was repaired) . I can't imagine why Imate tarnish their image with their ongoing association with such a company.
Hi! I Love ( D ) my TD2... to bad my touch screen broke already (2 months after purchase) without dropping it or whatever.. Screen and phone works normal.
Im just curious if there are other people having this problem jet?
Do you guys think im f*ck'd? or does htc replace touchscreens within warranty?
if not; Does anybody know what the costs may be for replacing a touchscreen? And is it possible to replace only the touchscreen or must the whole screen be replaced?
A lot of questions , i know.. hope someone can give me answers.
Thank you!
new screen
see here, a similar discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537654
if the screen broke and it was not your fault, warranty should cover that ... it seems that buying a new screen and putting it is easy ...
thnx for reply georgeono! guess i'll try warranty first.
same here...touch screen cannot sense any form of touch
Hm.. to bad man. when i put my phone under a bright lamp or in the sun i can see some kind of liquid under the screen(so i know its definitely broke..), same at yours? did you contact warranty jet?
i guess the screen is just not that strong, cause i have treated this phone much much better then my old htc touch and that touchscreen is still working..
my batt went flat...
I go home and charge it..
before full charge, I sms and it is not working anymore..
Soft reset or hard reset no use..
Next day, I see the "liquid" screen under sunlight...
I also take care of it well as this is my first pda and most expensive hp i ever bought...
Going to sent in on this coming thursday...
How about ur warranty, void or consider under warranty??
havent found time jet to send it in but i'll send it tomorrow so i'll let you know. .
I have had the same problem. I sent it back last Friday and have had notification on Monday that it arrived at HTC, but the tracking details they gave me don't seem to do anything. They say it'll be 5 to 10 working days before I get it back.
The engineer on the phone pretty much straight away described the problem as 'LCD Leak' and that was also stated on the postage label they sent through to me.
I found a short term fix for the problem before i sent it off: When you see the touch screen has the patch of liquid inside, use a piece of sellotape or other sticky tape and gently pull the touchscreen outwards away from the phone and it becomes usable again as long as no fluid is touching the screen any longer.
Hope this makes sense.
edit: I got my phone back and the same problem was still occurring - it looked like they had simply take taken the screen off and put it back on again. It has gone back again, but hopefully this time they will actually look at it.
hm i tried your fix but it didnt work for me ..thnx for the tip anyway!
Same like here I think:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522813
I had to sent it back for a repair. Right now my repaired phone starts to get the problem again
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Hm.. to bad man. when i put my phone under a bright lamp or in the sun i can see some kind of liquid under the screen(so i know its definitely broke..), same at yours? did you contact warranty jet?
i guess the screen is just not that strong, cause i have treated this phone much much better then my old htc touch and that touchscreen is still working..
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i had the same problem and i can tell you this is caused by too much pressure on the screen. it seems the screen does fall into the phonecase and therefore free itself from the glass. take care with that phone in the pocket!! also the manual says, take out the phone of the pocket when you sit down!! i was shocked when i read that... i mean.. wtf.. what is the idea of a mobile phone which you cant have in your pocket???
haha , and they used to call it a pocket pc! too bad i havent read the manual BEFORE i bought this fragile peace of sh..
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Your just a very unlucky man...
I really love my TD2 and it's working as it should be.
I do not use a case and have it just "naked" in my pocket (without keys and other stuff in my pocket) and its no problem, no scratch...
And i don't call it fragile, ok... it can break easier than a rock in your pockey but still..... I don't know how your TD2 is but mine cant bend a 1/2 mm, it's pretty though.
Phone fixed.... For now
I have received my phone back after a second trip back to HTC and it appears that they have replaced the whole frontage of the phone as a tiny scuff on the metal bit and a miniscule scratch on the screen have gone. The internals of the phone are the same as it has the same serial number and IMEI number.
Its all working so far, I've had no evidence of the fluid in the screen as yet and hope not to again!
Send it back and it will be mended eventually!
Had a similar problem, after 20 days the display broke (not on the surface but under it) because of...who knows, maybe direct sunlight since it was on the seat of my car.
Now, after reading the post, I see it's not a singular problem but also other lucky customers are dealing with it.
The real problem is HTC service. I contacted HTC Italy and they told me to take the PDA to a collection point along with a letter describing what happened since I asked for the warranty cover. After 20 days they told me I have to pay 126€ to repair my D2 because the service decided that it was due to my manomission (aka : you have lied to us). After some enraged mails I sent to them, they replied me I should contact HTC in UK to have the warranty. I decided to pay to have my phone back quickly but until yesterday no answer.
Today I sent another email and HTC replied telling me that the service center is closed for holidays until 24th...
I let you imagine how disappointed I am with HTC and they call it HTC Service Excellence.
Ok, it was my fault...I knew I had to buy the spare part on my own and change the LCD but I trusted the HTC name...big big big mistake!
Just consider those experiences in case you think to send your phone back to HTC service...I will never do this again!
Thank you guys, now I know for sure it was not my fault.
I have my TD2 now 3 month and I recognize the problem others mention. Although this problem is a fault, the system is not broken.
When the phone blocks, look for the "liquid" below the screen. It can be very small to fingertip size. The screen is not broken but the touch screen sticks to the display screen. It occurs by applying some force while using the touch screen. Of course this should not happen but it locks the phone or results in unpredictable touch inputs. IT IS NOT BROKEN.
It can be easily solved. Just wipe, with some pressure, with your thumb over the touch screen starting from well below till above the affected area. The touch screen detaches from the display screen and everything works again.
The solution would be a mod by HTC to prevent the two screen from sticking together.
I hope this helps by preventing people to send their phone back and foreward unnescessary.
Just send in my TD2 today for the same reason. Hope they wont simply "lift the surface up" and send it back to me.
repaired!
i had to wait a long time, but i got a message today that the phone is repaired within the warranty by an external repair service. Hopefully the problem is solved now, but im very glad to hear its not gonna cost me 200 euro's or so!
for the dutch : ondanks alle slechte verhalen over dynafix (volgens mij de gebruikelijke repair service voor een htc telefoon in nederland) is het toestel gewoon gerepareerd zonder onzin over drukschade etc. !
update
got my phone back yesterday , in fact they replaced my old phone with a brand new one! Totally free of costs. So i'm a total htc fan again!
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got my phone back yesterday , in fact they replaced my old phone with a brand new one! Totally free of costs. So i'm a total htc fan again!
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Are you sure it's new? I thought they replaced mine as well (after a LOT of phone calls and hassle), but the serial number is still the same.
The counters had been reset, so at first I thought it was a brand new one...
I just thought I'd share the story of how my Nexus One became a 576 dollar(CA Tax) brick. I went hiking up in the Angeles Forest to go Bungee jumping on Saturday. It was a 5 mile hike, but not a too terribly hard one. I put my Nexus One in my bag and didn't think about it. When we got to the Bridge to Nowhere, the Bungee location, I took my Nexus One out of my bag to take some photos and video. I hit the power button and nothing happened. I knew my battery couldn't be dead. I took off my sunglasses and noticed spider cracks all over the screen originating from the bottom left of the screen.
It sucks, and I have no idea how it happened. I never took my bag off my back, I never hit anything. It is very depressing. I'm trying to email the google store support to see if i can get it refurbished or something so i don't have to buy a new one for full price. The screen displays nothing, but still responds to touch. I can feel when i hit the area that unlocked it the vibrating feedback. I doubt there are any AMOLED screens out there, or a way to easily replace it myself. Let's hope google can fix it somehow for a price less than buying a new one. If not, well then I'm boned.
Wow, sorry dude. I hope Google can help you out on this matter. Maybe you did bump it somewhere without knowing?
Are you sure it wasn't pressure from contents of the pack itself?
senseless post, never mind me.
Bummer...let us know if you can get it replaced.
So I guess we can safely say this isn't the Gorilla glass as found on the Droid.
pics? and does the phone not even turn on? ive see dozes of iphone users with cracked screens still touching away at it uncontrollably lol
yeah cracked capacitive touch screens usually continue to work fine and the screen under them should not be effected unless it took a pretty darn good hit
sucks to have happened to you so soon but i will say that personally having known how easy it is to crack these types of screens i have always kept my G1 in my jean pocket with the screen facing my leg at all times.
i've dropped my G1 about 5 or 6 times in the past 1+ year and the back of my phone is in much worse shape than the front but still no cracked screen i do however have a half way broken back cover
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I just thought I'd share the story of how my Nexus One became a 576 dollar(CA Tax) brick. I went hiking up in the Angeles Forest to go Bungee jumping on Saturday. It was a 5 mile hike, but not a too terribly hard one. I put my Nexus One in my bag and didn't think about it. When we got to the Bridge to Nowhere, the Bungee location, I took my Nexus One out of my bag to take some photos and video. I hit the power button and nothing happened. I knew my battery couldn't be dead. I took off my sunglasses and noticed spider cracks all over the screen originating from the bottom left of the screen.
It sucks, and I have no idea how it happened. I never took my bag off my back, I never hit anything. It is very depressing. I'm trying to email the google store support to see if i can get it refurbished or something so i don't have to buy a new one for full price. The screen displays nothing, but still responds to touch. I can feel when i hit the area that unlocked it the vibrating feedback. I doubt there are any AMOLED screens out there, or a way to easily replace it myself. Let's hope google can fix it somehow for a price less than buying a new one. If not, well then I'm boned.
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If you have it on T-Mobile, there's a way to get it replaced via asurion insurance for a $130 deductible.. Since it's still within the first 14 days of owning the device, you could do that.
read this sticky on the nexus one forums: http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...surion-insurance-now-available-nexus-one.html
Just add insurance and you're saved. Tell them you have a cracked screen, and you're golden =) (never tell asurion that you had your phone stolen.. you'll need a police report)
If you're on AT&T though, you may be screwed. However if that's the case, you can call HTC and they can probably repair it for a fee.
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If you have it on T-Mobile, there's a way to get it replaced via asurion insurance for a $130 deductible.. Since it's still within the first 14 days of owning the device, you could do that.
read this sticky on the nexus one forums: http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...surion-insurance-now-available-nexus-one.html
Just add insurance and you're saved. Tell them you have a cracked screen, and you're golden =) (never tell asurion that you had your phone stolen.. you'll need a police report)
If you're on AT&T though, you may be screwed. However if that's the case, you can call HTC and they can probably repair it for a fee.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll look into this! I'm on t-mobile, but i bought it unlocked. Lets hope it still works.
The phone still turns on, I see notification glows of the trackball. The buttons light up, I can even unlock the phone by sliding where i know the button is.. but the screen doesn't come on at all. it looks like it cracked at the bottom right and spider'd up most of the screen.
It was in a padded compartment of my bag, and it only had a few bottles of water(in an entirely different section of the bag) and my hoodie in it. I can't understand how it happened.
well it sure as hell didnt punch itself in the screen
Crazy, Ive had a couple close calls with my G1 and saw one of my friends G1s drop right in front of me and shatter at the movies but hers still worked just cracked everywhere. That really sucks.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll look into this! I'm on t-mobile, but i bought it unlocked. Lets hope it still works.
The phone still turns on, I see notification glows of the trackball. The buttons light up, I can even unlock the phone by sliding where i know the button is.. but the screen doesn't come on at all. it looks like it cracked at the bottom right and spider'd up most of the screen.
It was in a padded compartment of my bag, and it only had a few bottles of water(in an entirely different section of the bag) and my hoodie in it. I can't understand how it happened.
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From what I've read there's been a lot of different stories of whether or not asurion will cover the phone, but from what I can tell they do- and it's also listed on their phoneclaim.com site (though I don't recommend using it.. it's usually easier to call, I work for tmobile and customers that come in have tons of complaints from that)
To add insurance to the phone you may have to go into a retail store from what I read and show them a reciept from google that it was bought, and they'll add it to your account, so hopefully you can do that, heh. I'll keep a lookout for any new info and post it here, so keep us updated on the status ^^
Sounds like the water bottles may have hit it at an angle, there could have been a bump or something that caused the plastic lid of the bottle to become compressed against the phone, thus resulting in a pressure crack (which explains the spidering) Even if it's in the padded section, keep in mind that if you put enough pressure on a screen it'll crack, as everything has it's breaking point. For your next one nexus one (lol, 'nextus one') I'd probably recommend a hard-leather pouch for when you're going hiking so it doesn't happen again, and the soft-case for your pocket for less bulk
Once boxwave comes out with their anti-glare screen protectors, I'd suggest one of those as well to prevent the little nicks and such ^_^
Good luck!
JoshHart said:
Crazy, Ive had a couple close calls with my G1 and saw one of my friends G1s drop right in front of me and shatter at the movies but hers still worked just cracked everywhere. That really sucks.
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seems like it might be a downside of an OLED screen. I've seen several cracked G1's work fine, it does surprise me that the N1 won't display anything at all.. maybe the video cable came unplugged somehow. Hmm.
I called T-mo and she said they show it as a phone that can make a claim if you already had insurance on your account, but that she wasn't able to add it to a new Nexus One since t-mobile does not support or sell it. I tried to talk her into it repeatedly and she said it just wouldn't let her. I said thanks and politely hung up. I'm gonna try calling back again to get someone else in a bit.
OMG! That really bites! Was it really hot out? I really feel for you I paid full price for mine too. Thats why I'm looking for a hard case. Hope it works out for you.
Same problem - cracked screen on Nexus One
OK I was not hiking or anything - just hanging out with my Nexus One in my pocket. Pulled it out and the screen looked funny. By the next morning, all black. It wasn't until I looked closer in bright light that I noticed several cracks in the internal screen, coming from the edges.
I think this is going to be a big problem for this phone. I've dropped my G1 about 20 times over the past 15 months and it's fine. I've even dunked it in a glass of water, dried it out, and it's fine. I did nothing to my Nexus One and the screen (inside! with no external damage whatsoever) is cracked and now does not work. This is lousy manufacturing.
I put a call into HTC and they are supposed to be sending me a fedex label to send them the phone, but I didn't tell them the screen is cracked, I just said the screen doesn't work. So I am expecting them to tell me I'll have to pay to replace the screen. The warranty number for HTC is 888-617-1113. If you call them and get the price for replacing the screen, please post it here so I and others know what to expect.
Also, there is a company in Dallas called dr cell phone (google it) which can repair screens the same day they receive your phone, you can just ship it to them. It costs somewhere between $75 and $175 and they said they will repair the Nexus One (they do many other HTC phones). However they told me they are waiting on parts from HTC so it could be 1-2 weeks before they get parts.
Hope this helps - I'm in the same boat. Good luck.
I compare the Nexus screen to Heros. It feels like Nexus has a plastic screen?
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If you have it on T-Mobile, there's a way to get it replaced via asurion insurance for a $130 deductible.. Since it's still within the first 14 days of owning the device, you could do that.
read this sticky on the nexus one forums: http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...surion-insurance-now-available-nexus-one.html
Just add insurance and you're saved. Tell them you have a cracked screen, and you're golden =) (never tell asurion that you had your phone stolen.. you'll need a police report)
If you're on AT&T though, you may be screwed. However if that's the case, you can call HTC and they can probably repair it for a fee.
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Sorry, but if you try to do the insurance thing listed here, your claim will be denied. Asurion checks to see when you last used the IMEI number to place a call. They will see that you have been unable to place any calls since a certain date and added insurance after that date. They will know your device was damaged before you added the insurance and deny the claim. Since your touch screen still works, perhaps try holding the search button to initiate a call through voice dialing. If you can make a call after adding the insurance, you should be good.
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sucks to have happened to you so soon but i will say that personally having known how easy it is to crack these types of screens i have always kept my G1 in my jean pocket with the screen facing my leg at all times.
i've dropped my G1 about 5 or 6 times in the past 1+ year and the back of my phone is in much worse shape than the front but still no cracked screen i do however have a half way broken back cover
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Same here. Always on the rear pocket, even when driving and its still in pristine shape (sold it yesterday, snif!). From your second assertion, looks like the G1's display is even stronger than the back (not as flexible, though).
Ok So I sent my HC H2 off under warranty to HC as I had lots of white marks on the screen display when surfing the net. They didn't repair it and said it would cost £198 to fix even though apart from seeing the spots mainly only a white back ground the phone was actaully in perfect working order and it cost me £20 to get it back. Now the ouchscreen has gone just suddenly and am debating on sending it back again. Now the postive thoughts from me is that if it is under warranty then they surely have to fix me phone for free. But my negative thoughts are they will just try to charge me for the repair or charge me £20 just to get my phone back. What would you do?
I get get the unit to turn on I can take calls using the buttons on the bottom but cannot use the touchscreen so can#t unlock it or do anything else with it. The phone is perfect never been near water and never been dropped.
Did you forget to remove hspl and return it to stock before you sent it to them? That voids warranty and makes the repair chargeable.
Yes sorry forgot to mention that I had indeed removed it and put the stock raido rom and removed HSPL. I assumed that the white marks were deemed as cosmetic but i will never know as I didn't get a report just an email with a link saying pay £198 for a repair or £20 to have it sent back unrepaired. I think if they don't fix it this time under warranty I will take them to the small claims court if needed.
hmm, could be water marks? is the water damage indicator red or white? if its even slightly pink, they wont cover it. Best of luck arguing your case.
water damage indicator red or white? It's never been near water opened the back can see a white circle looking sticker near top left if thats it?
There are 2 water markers i understand, and regardless of how close the phone may have been, it they says its water damage there is no movement from HTC on this
Sadly your best bet would have been to get full details of the issue before it was sent back. I suspect that it wil;l cost you the £200 to get it repaired.
You could replace it yourself for much less - if you have the skills as it not easy to do imho, or try the repair company's that advertise in the Sunday papers.
If it was mine, I'd have paid the first time
If you are good at following instructions, then you could probably replace the touchscreen and get it working. There's several disassembly videos on YouTube. Beware, the HD2 is a beast to take apart. There's several fragile ribbon cables that are extremely easy to tear, and many XDA users have made their phones worst off trying this. I mean, you could almost get a good condition HD2 for the 200 pounds HTC is trying to charge you.
Well it's good news, After 10 days of not hearing anything had a call to sall repair is being done under warranty and as a good will gesture of the delay they are going to email a link for all the accessories available for the phone that they sell and I can have anything up to the value of £50! I am well happy and this has restored my faith in HTC
Thats good news :0
The delays in UK HTC repairs have been up to 6 weeks and have been reported by the bbc
Hello all,
First time I have done a post so firstly a hello to everyone. Secondly It is an update/ask for advice time from everyone.
I sent my Galaxy Tab 10.1 in for repair due to the newton rings problems and i have been checking it's progress online. Today a new status came up saying:
"Cancelled by ASC Non Defect (Working properly)"
When I called up customer services they explain that this could be due to two reasons:
1) They have deemed this as a default due to my use (apparently the more likely of the two)
2) For stats they have closed the case and are waiting for a part.
Has anyone had experience with these people and do they know any of their procedures? Also if they do say it was due to my misuse what are my options?
Sorry for the rant and new thread just need some advice asap.
Liam
I dont understand, why are they waiting for a part if the case is closed?
Worst case you can order a new unit, swap screens, and return it.
Remember $500-$600 for a tablet which costs $120 to make demands perfection.
Exactly that's what i said. The service rep was saying this could be a thing they do to make the statistics of cased open and closed better. However he did say this is a unlikely option.
ok, I think I understand now.
They closed the case because they dont want the case number to remain open in their system and pass SLA "service level agreement" time. This is pretty common in hardware repair.
If this is true then it does sound like they will replace the part.
Well that's good to know. At first i was thinking the person was just fobbing me off. I really hope they do repair the device; If not I will go mental at them.
Thanks for the info.
Also have anyone in the UK got theirs repaired yet?
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I dont understand, why are they waiting for a part if the case is closed?
Worst case you can order a new unit, swap screens, and return it.
Remember $500-$600 for a tablet which costs $120 to make demands perfection.
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Wait? It costs $120 to make it, or it's made of $120 worth of bulk parts.
The argument is valid, but not when you twist up reality to make it fit your point. There are other costs involved in making and getting the tablet into your hands than the bulk cost of the parts.
Evan2ac said:
I dont understand, why are they waiting for a part if the case is closed?
Worst case you can order a new unit, swap screens, and return it.
Remember $500-$600 for a tablet which costs $120 to make demands perfection.
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Sadly I wouldn't have a clue on how to replace it?
For anyone else who has this problem here is an update. They have agreed to replace it but it will take up to 28days. BO
Just buy a new one, swap the back covers, and return the defective one. 28 days is unacceptable for a repair.
Try blowing into the connector pin area & see if that helps you out. Others have reported it working for them. There is a thread in here about it.
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Try blowing into the connector pin area & see if that helps you out. Others have reported it working for them. There is a thread in here about it.
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Blowing in the connector does as much good as blowing in Nintendo cartridges. The screen is sealed and blowing will do nothing.
Evan2ac said:
Just buy a new one, swap the back covers, and return the defective one. 28 days is unacceptable for a repair.
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The assertion here being that they don't power on the device and check the serial number, etc., that is electronically embedded in the device? Does that really work?
Another update. I called back and apparently it was sent recorded delivery today. Will let you know when i get it.
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Blowing in the connector does as much good as blowing in Nintendo cartridges. The screen is sealed and blowing will do nothing.
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Tell it to these ppl then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222149
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Blowing in the connector does as much good as blowing in Nintendo cartridges. The screen is sealed and blowing will do nothing.
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Being the reason why it does actually help. Because the device is sealed you create a greater pressure on the inside of the device than on the outside. Since the back part is more flexible than the front it moves outward, obviously only slightly, but just enough to reduce pressure of whatever is pressing against the screen from behind. And as pointed out, it is only temporary, as when you stop blowing the over pressure seizes as well.
I also have the problem with Newton Rings, but I think it's because it is a little bent. The corners of the tab does not line up when I put it on a table.
Just thought I should mention this so you guys having newton rings can check if yours is bent as well.
It is not the best built tablet and it might bend a little if you have it with you in a backpack etc..
samsung galaxy tab 10.1 newton rings
be careful when you buy any samsung product from overseas , samsung uk will not honour their warrenty although the problem is a know manufacturing defect
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1130230
http://www.yugatech.com/blog/persona...-slick-issues/
http://www.thegalaxytabforum.com/ind...n-rings-issue/
http://galaxytablife.com/2011/07/gal...slick-problem/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07...ings-is-yours/
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_10...sageId=5198453
http://www.iwantadroid.com/2011/07/p...newtons-rings/
https://mobicity.zendesk.com/entries...isture-problem
Solution!
I caught the famous newton rings two days ago after 2 months of ownership - and paniced at once. I read about all the disappointed users and returns and repairs. And decided to do the same. Got a ticket from the berlin workshop, that officially repairs for samsung. But i like experimenting. So i followed some leads before sending in. Put it in the fridge, warm it up on the heating. Both had no effect. At first. Disappointed, I let it lie beside my keyboard and continued working. When i looked at the 10.1 after 40 minutes again, the stain, that measured 2,5 * 5,5 cm in the morning and rather grew bigger when trying to treat, was shrunk to 1*3 cm or so. I did not trust my eyes. After another 10 mins, it was only the size of a fingerprint. And then - the whole screen totally went back to completely normal on its own. No rubbing or pressing could change that development.
My conclusion, and i can not believe, that samsung has not published that quickly and clearely, is that it is a moisture-problem. The weather these days is moist and also, i worked with the tab in moist surrounding lately. The "healing" set in, when i had the tab heated up to ca. 30 - 40 degrees celsius and then let it rest for some time with no cover in a dry room at 20 degrees celsius.
Try it before complaining, if you can live with thecircumstances. I do not know, if the replacement-screens of samsung is different, new at all or only dried by samsung... i will not send in mine anymore.
I can confirm, that the healing by administer some heat is permanent and also by doing the fridge and the heating again after the healing, i could not provoke any stain again.
Good luck!
Sent from my GT-P7510 using xda premium
ok guys, so i had this problem pop up a few months after i bougt it, so last week i spoke to the customer service rep and they mailed me a prepaid ups label, i mailed it to texas, 4 days later its back on my door step.
My impressions:1. They definitely changed the screen, the new screen has a slight texture underneath the glass, that isnt noticeable until you look really really hard.
2. The screen brightness, quality is unchanged.
3. The screen now has a dark grey samsung label on the bezel, my tab didnt have the label before.
4. The tab feels a lot more solid than it did before, not that it wasnt solid before, but there was always a very very slight creak when you handled it, especially at the back. It feels like everything is really really tightened now, feels a lot more dense.its a good thing.
5. I cant seem to produce the newton rings now, before they would appear temporarily when i applied slight pressure to the screen, or when i rubbed the screen to remove fingerprints, but now that doesnt happen. The glass feels a little thicker.
6. Another slight difference, is the fingerprints dont seem to show as much as they did before. Its not a major difference, the screen is still a fingerprint magnet.
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Try blowing into the connector pin area & see if that helps you out. Others have reported it working for them. There is a thread in here about it.
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It worked for a minute. Haha! What will I do to fix it?