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Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
Romani ite domum!
Donald24 said:
Romani ite domum!
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What on earth is this?
I was with a lot of doubts like you, until I see today the X10
It is THE **** of phone. The UI is ugly, and works like its running on a nintendo DS processor and 3fps, they dont have any advantage over HD2, NONE, and the release date is on march 2010 if all goes good.
not an option for me and a big fail for Sony.
i am surprised at how ugly the UI turned out. Also, the lag SHOULD be attributed to it being pre=release but it is so laggy that you have to assume some of that will make it into the final ROM
Alkali said:
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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Considering the detailed description you gave regarding what you need your phone to do, it's obvious that the XPERIA is the phone for you.
You get the X10 and let us the HD2 gang know what you found out
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Donald24 said:
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
The X10 looks like a nice phone. I personally think it looks better aesthetically than the HD2, especially in White. The UI will probably be improved before it's released and run faster than 3 FPS. The 8MP camera is also a plus, and I'd take an SE camera over an HTC camera any day.
All that being said, the HD2 has the bigger screen and the support of xda-developers
That's all I need for me to consider the HD2 better. That and SE hasn't made a good flagship phone in years! I'd bet they are going to botch up the X10 somehow and it's pretty much guaranteed to go through a few delays traditional SE style
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
Gang, this is not even a Windows Mobile device
Alkali said:
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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pretty not much of a point to ask this question here or in Xperia X10, most of the responders here like me have had already bought over in our mind with HD2. And I would strongly recommend HD2 against Xperia X10 for many reasons, but this is entirely my preferences. I would think again if it is based on WinMO.
too bad history
lude219 said:
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
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I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
drwho? said:
I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
I consider HD2 as a Business Phone...
Sony Xperia X10 is not a Business Phone at all. It even cannot show MS exchange emails in html format...
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salamt said:
Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
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P990, P990 ... P990 ... We got to remember our mistakeS, SE take us for idiots ... a lot of promiss, never real fix ... Let's go for phone with working software, and that is not a SonyEricsson, i got the phones in my cabinets to prove it.
I clearly remember that X1 was suppose to get Windows mobile 7 .. we don t even get Win6.5 ... so ... bye bye SE, remember your mistakeS, so many companies finish the products, no reason to buy something unfinished.
To get a working X1, we got to develope hacks ... not what i call a good consumer support.
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I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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i have personal experience with most of this, agreed 110%
Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
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Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
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you'll have some time to find the best solution as the X10 won't be out for months - if SE are saying Q1 then that is a certainty for Q2 at the earliest...
Andoid does have the odd application that can use office files.
No more Updates for X2???
Anyone know when new update for X2 scheduled?
Not really, no one from SE announced yet...
So pity to x2 user. Damn... Can't really taste the true power of X2. I don't know what to do. I want to sell, but no one want to buy.
Oh, By The way, Is other Windows Mobile phone is better than X2? Or just the same?
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So pity to x2 user. Damn... Can't really taste the true power of X2. I don't know what to do. I want to sell, but no one want to buy.
Oh, By The way, Is other Windows Mobile phone is better than X2? Or just the same?
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I understand HTC's HD2 phone, also a Windows mobile fon, is a lot better than the X2. You may check on it. Cheers.
Nice information. Thanks. oh... How do you think after using X2. Is it still any hope?
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Nice information. Thanks. oh... How do you think after using X2. Is it still any hope?
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my opinion on the x2 is that it is a WinMo device. if there is something you don't like about it, change it. already i've put TF3d, over clocked it.
the stock R3XXX update was a huge improvement and slideview+ panels are brilliant.
plus 8mp camera and full keyboard does not hurt either, and because of the smaller screen the battery last longer than the hd2 and it fits easier in my pocket,
but if your looking for a new phone i would go with the hd2 just because it has attracted more people therefore there is more support for it. but its just based on preferences
Sony Ericsson has just abandonned the Xperia X2 and X1 phones (or all Windows Mobile devices).
In fact, honestly SE never really cared about these devices. The first X1 was a HTC development, solid in Software terms at the end but horrible at Hardware level. The X2 was the exactly opposite, great Hardware, awful Software.
But there's no more interest in this devce anymore.
Cheers.
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Sony Ericsson has just abandonned the Xperia X2 and X1 phones (or all Windows Mobile devices).
In fact, honestly SE never really cared about these devices. The first X1 was a HTC development, solid in Software terms at the end but horrible at Hardware level. The X2 was the exactly opposite, great Hardware, awful Software.
But there's no more interest in this devce anymore.
Cheers.
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Well, it's not really true.
Both phones got cruical updates, X2 is completely redesigned after last upgrade.
Officially SE didn't abandon anything.
However it is true they've made diastrous mistakes with X2
and pushed unfinished buggy firmwares, without any sign of improvements ATM.
i am SE mobile user for the past 6 years and wanted to always stick with SE device... but my X2 experience has changed my perception.... i will no more use SE devices... at the moment looking to get rid of my X2 and switch to iphone...
Em... I like SE phone.but this X2 make me crazy. My only hope is SE declare the next update for X2 and without anymore bugs. Of course SE should really try it first before launch to x2 user.
Nb : I really want to find and install hand writing recognition. As long as I know, PDA or PocketPC should have this feature.
I am not a fussy phone user.
If my phone could just alert me when messages are received consistently, if my phone would always unlock when i want it to, if the screen would not dim so quickly with no way to alter it, i would be pleased.
All of which the X2 is unable to fulfill. Colour me disgusted, SE.
I simply just can't understand why some people are still defending SE and the X2, saying that's only "few minor bugs".
The only reason that I still with this phone is that I cannot sell it, and the iPhone 4 hasn't arrived to my country yet.
Jolo.
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I simply just can't understand why some people are still defending SE and the X2, saying that's only "few minor bugs".
The only reason that I still with this phone is that I cannot sell it, and the iPhone 4 hasn't arrived to my country yet.
Jolo.
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The mistake is bigger because this is substantially a great phone, which could be on the first line of last batch of WM devices.
I'm using it and must say love it in most part.
However it has glitches, somehow I'm able to squeeze most of it. In many ways it's great.
But the truth is they never felt on their back angry customers breath.
I think they're whether too proud and rude,
or too old fashioned in their approach.
And they reach a success with X10, so you know, no reason to panic
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I am not a fussy phone user.
If my phone could just alert me when messages are received consistently, if my phone would always unlock when i want it to, if the screen would not dim so quickly with no way to alter it, i would be pleased.
All of which the X2 is unable to fulfill. Colour me disgusted, SE.
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If you go to settings Settings>System>Backlight and Power Management>Advanced you can change the settings.
I did this and it worked for a while. But then, sometimes, after 5 seconds it goes dark.
But after I make the change it stops doing the 5 second thing. . . for a while.
Yes a bug, it sucks, but there are ways to DEAL with it.
As for the unlock, yes I see what you are talking about. I keep pressing and nothing, nothing then all of a sudden, it slides!!!
Annoying to say the least.
Sony should make the device work out of the box. Unfortunately this is not the case. We either deal with it and come up with our own solutions or sell the X2. Too bad no wants to buy the X2 but then again I don't blame them, it is a buggy machine.
However...X2 is still not meet most user requirement. Some tweak and fix are not enough. Hope SE really care to make update for us. I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
gunawan-1 said:
However...X2 is still not meet most user requirement. Some tweak and fix are not enough. Hope SE really care to make update for us. I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
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All of us picked up the wrong phone. You're not alone.
Sadly, SE will not release another update. This device is absolutely dead for this company, same as X1.
Even, Sony Ericsson will not have a Windows Phone 7 device at launch. They're fully with Android only now.
Cheers and good luck with this piece of crap.
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If you go to settings Settings>System>Backlight and Power Management>Advanced you can change the settings.
I did this and it worked for a while. But then, sometimes, after 5 seconds it goes dark.
But after I make the change it stops doing the 5 second thing. . . for a while.
Yes a bug, it sucks, but there are ways to DEAL with it.
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Erm. dude. I KNOW.
A solution isn't a solution when it doesn't work well. It is still a compromise. And dealing with it, is a massive compromise.
Its plain stupid that we users are compromising on our user experience on simple things. For a premium, top range phone no less.
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Even, Sony Ericsson will not have a Windows Phone 7 device at launch. They're fully with Android only now.
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And Symbian
gunawan-1 said:
I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
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I actually returned the phone to the seller on the basis that it does not offer functions as declared by the manufacturer, specifically "USB mass storage" mode. OK, it wasn't easy and I settled for somewhat less money that the phone costed me, but it was still more than the price of a used phone. But it all depends on local customs, laws and the will of seller.
Are you saying the X2 does not even have MassStorageUSB? Not even after MR2 update??? Wow!
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Are you saying the X2 does not even have MassStorageUSB? Not even after MR2 update??? Wow!
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Well actually not true.
Actually just after connecting this to PC and starting
WMDevice Center you can browse both sd card and internal memory.
In reverse X1 mass storage allows only sd card management.
To much *****ing is not sensible either.
I swear this is a serious question... I have posted here and not the Captivate forum because I really want thoughtful responses and not smart-ass answers.
After over a year's wait, the X10 is finally coming to AT&T tomorrow. I've had only Ericssons and Sony Ericssons since 1998. I have always been a fan of SE designs and loved having a unique phone. Perhaps earlier this year I would have immediately jumped on the X10. However, the Samsung Captivate has generally received higher scores, and on multiple reviews, has also been named the best Android phone on AT&T.
I am trying really hard to like the X10 more than the Captivate, but can any X10 owners offer compelling reasons to go with the X10? Please assume the 2.1 update arrives as planned. I understand this is objective, but I really just want the "best" AT&T phone.
So far, my main reasons to go with the X10 are:
1) I love SE phones.
2) I've loved SE cameras, and the X10's appears to perform better than the Captivate's.
3) The camera flash/bright LED light has saved me in more than one situation throughout the years.
4) Mediascape seems to be highly regarded in most of the reviews I have read, and I plan to upload music, pictures, and videos to this phone.
5) I personally like the X10 design more than the Captivate.
Also, a few questions before I play with both phones tomorrow:
1) Does the lack of multi-touch really make a difference?
2) Does the UXP act as clunky as reviews have said it does?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Christian
In my mind x10 is not the best smart phone out there.
It has a os version behind others and lack of mt
I not sure is 2.1 will improve the system as i never tried b4
but if u not a hardcore gamer den mt is not a problem for you.
Lack of mt mean can't play game like pspxdroid smootly
And Samsung Captivate is really a powerful mobile but the power usage is higher too.
X10 is the only phone i know that your phone can last u a day without much worry that your batt will run out till the end of the day if you control your batt usage well.
And i just love the design of the phone i think is the few design that score toe to toe with iphone 4g and that why i go for it. And the problem with all the older os compare to htc/samsumg cause x10 have a sony UI design where making it different. I love the background at the setting page compare to the normal black background (just make you think it not customize before)
But if you got the chances to hold both phone i believe x10 look really great especial the white phone=)
Note: Some other user said: Buying a smart phone is like getting a wife. =)
it never going to be prefect in any way. But if you love it? that good enough.
Hope you pick the right wife for you=)
You already put up 5 good reasons to get the X10 so it sounds to me like you already want it.
As to your questions:
1: Multi touch was impressive when I tried it other phones and was a big negative against me getting the X10, but now that I got the X10 anyway the controls work just fine for me.
2: I'm sure the user experience could be better, I don't like everything about this phone but it seems pretty good overall. I would say as just a phone, the X10 needs some improvement, but as a data device it does everything I need.
my opinion
hi im from australia,
we dont have the samsung captivate but we have the samsung galaxy s, and i curently own the SE X10 which i chose over the samsung galaxy s.
i work in a telco shop so i get to play with the galaxy all the time and ive compared it to my x10, and i chose the x10.
this is what ive notices about the 2 handsets.
X10:
the battery life in the start was really bad, but as about 2 weeks passed, the battery actually started lasting longer, must be just because it was new and just needed a few proper charges.
the original software that came on it was a bit laggy an had a few problems with it but im now on the (26) software and its working great
i personally dont care for multi touch and not so much about games either (i have ipod touch and i play all my games on that.
although i have quiet a lot of games on my x10 and they all play great,
i use vignette as my main camera app and the photos i get with it are spectacular you may check them here http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
i prefer the screen of the x10, yes i know that the galaxy has a supper amoled, ive had the omnia II i8000 which had an amoled screen and really dont care for it.
with the update the phone will be even better and faster. at the same time as much as i hope we get 2.1 soon and 2.2 following i really dont think that numbers matter too much, i got the phone because it did what i wanted for me.
now on to the GALAXY S:
great supper amoled screen,
16gig internal memory
multi touch
2.1 and soon getting 2.2 which will make it as insane phone especially for games (if thats what you want)
but one thing ive noticed is that when ever i use our store demo which has the latest software and all the same apps as my x10 (i set it up in the same way)
the galaxy s seems to lag a fair bit over time and requires a reboot to fix that.
the only thing that the galaxy has that i really wanted was SWYPE KEYBOARD and i actually got it on my x10 and its working great.
at the same time i see a lot of people buying both these phones, and no one as of yet has come back with problems with them,
i dont know if ive helped much in your decision but i just say pick one that has what you want
To answer some of your questions:
UXP is quite good. That being said, Mediascape should make you change your mind. It's definitely good, but not good enough to die for. You will find better picture viewers (JustPictures) and media players (Rock Player) in the Android market for free.
Captivate has multi-touch, SAMOLED and newer Android. However, it's build quality is weaker.
Multitouch doesnt matter in most apps. Pinch and zoom isn't really a big deal. However, some of the games require multi-touch. Once again, it isn't a deal breaker, but it is important enough to be considered.
Btw, Amazon will be offering X10 with contract for 50 bucks. What is the best deal you can get on the Captivate?
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2) I've loved SE cameras, and the X10's appears to perform better than the Captivate's.
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Some of the images captured from stock camera, you will see lot of variance in quality due, reason being user.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724314
There's one reason I would not recommend buying a SE phone, cruddy customer support and a desire to have people update to latest phone rather then keep developing older models. They try to make the customers pay over and over for the same stuff, look at the way they treated PSP users who got the new model.
Sony doesn't get enthusiast smart phones, HTC and Apple do; they know that regular on time updates are important to us. That's who I'd be buying a smart phone from. Sony cater to the mass market uneducated customers who dont know how to upgrade their os or don't care.
Upshot, we will get 2.1 very late, we might get 2.2 when everyone is getting 3.0. I'll eat my hat if X10 will get 3.0, by then SE will see it as cannibalizing sales of their newest phone.
Also, x10 lacks the 512 ram that's talked about as likely prerequisite for 3.0. So, it's a well built phone with a limited lifespan. I'd go with an HTC phone for android, they get smartphones and have a prooven track record. Samsung are new at this game, so we will see. The Galaxy build quality is much poorer than SE, HTC or Apple.
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... look at the way they treated PSP users who got the new model.
Sony doesn't get enthusiast smart phones, HTC and Apple do; they know that regular on time updates are important to us. That's who I'd be buying a smart phone from. Sony cater to the mass market uneducated customers who dont know how to upgrade their os or don't care.
Also, x10 lacks the 512 ram that's talked about as likely prerequisite for 3.0. So, it's a well built phone with a limited lifespan. I'd go with an HTC phone for android, they get smartphones and have a prooven track record. Samsung are new at this game, so we will see. The Galaxy build quality is much poorer than SE, HTC or Apple.
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1st Sony and Sony Ericsson are two different companies.
2nd we have plenty of firmware updates but no OS updates. We will have one very soon now. HTC have made a lot more Android phones. This is SE's first and i think they did a pretty good job as well.
3rd there is no prerequisite for Android 3.0. Google haven't said anything about that.
I'd say go with what you really like in your hand and to your eyes. Both are great phones and you will get over many of the cons with either phones with help on several forums.
I owned several phones in the last 3 years and started to like to SE designs more ever since I owned W910. Recently, I owned Nexus One and iPhone 4 but settled with X10 mainly for how it feels in my hands and for the looks.
It has quite a few annoying functionality issues but I got around them after a week or two. I have the white X10a which makes it even more special.
99% of the time I use my phone to make calls, text, googleTalk, Maps, and Browsing. So, MT doesn't even come to my thoughts and 1.6 feels fine.
Some apps that makes X10 even better
1. ADW Launcher
2. CalWidget
3. Beautiful Widgets (Paid App)
4. Weather & Toggle Donate (paid). You don't need if u get Beautiful Widgets.
5. Switch Pro Widget (Paid app)
6. JustPictures (I use Smugmug so, it rocks)
7. MixZing Media Player
8. Data Counter widget (if you don't have unlimited data plan)
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1st Sony and Sony Ericsson are two different companies.
2nd we have plenty of firmware updates but no OS updates. We will have one very soon now. HTC have made a lot more Android phones. This is SE's first and i think they did a pretty good job as well.
3rd there is no prerequisite for Android 3.0. Google haven't said anything about that.
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1) SE is owned 50% by Sony and share lots of board members, marketing etc etc. It's for all intents and purposes a subsidiary company,
2) Yes, firmware updates that FAILED to address basic flaws in the phone, and would have been unnecessary if they rolled out 2.0, 2.1, and we should have 2.2 by now. Instead we are hoping that maybe we can get 2.1 - 6 months late. The phone is well made, no argument, not quite up to Apple standard, but definitely better built than other top tier androids.
SE won't learn if they treat customers like **** and we take it. I'm not sure that they can change their corporate mentality enough to make a difference. It's a massive multi-national, X10 is one of millions of other products ranging from bog rolls to rockets, they will never care as much about any individual product. HTC makes smart phones, they can't afford to get a bad rep, this is good for us, the customers. Even Apple have more at stake with the iPhone. I fear Samsung will head in SE's footsteps, but, I haven't heard much about them either way. Sony has a reputation for spreading their customers' butt cheeks and ramming **** in.
3) The 512MB RAM pre-req has been floated by a number of sources, it will give SE perfect excuse not to give us 3.0; almost like it's been planned...
Also, another reason to avoid SE, we had pretty little progress on hacking the bootloader. Sony are fanatically against modding communities on their products - I wouldn't be surprised if it's never broken.
All in all, if you've already got X10, and it's working fine for you - I wouldn't rush out and sell it. However, you can get better phones from more customer friendly manufacturers nowadays; I would NOT buy a new X10.
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Some apps that makes X10 even better
1. ADW Launcher
2. CalWidget
3. Beautiful Widgets (Paid App)
4. Weather & Toggle Donate (paid). You don't need if u get Beautiful Widgets.
5. Switch Pro Widget (Paid app)
6. JustPictures (I use Smugmug so, it rocks)
7. MixZing Media Player
8. Data Counter widget (if you don't have unlimited data plan)
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LOL, you've got pretty much same setup as me. I would just add
9)Penetrate 10)Wifi Analyzer 11)Handcent and replace 7) with bTunes
i think that you will have to choose between a good build quality and lack of software upgrades (SE) and moderate build quality but better software support (samsung). I would go with the first choice but there is little chance that the bootloader will be cracked so no custom ROM to compensate SE laziness.
consolation said:
1) SE is owned 50% by Sony and share lots of board members, marketing etc etc. It's for all intents and purposes a subsidiary company,
2) Yes, firmware updates that FAILED to address basic flaws in the phone, and would have been unnecessary if they rolled out 2.0, 2.1, and we should have 2.2 by now. Instead we are hoping that maybe we can get 2.1 - 6 months late. The phone is well made, no argument, not quite up to Apple standard, but definitely better built than other top tier androids.
SE won't learn if they treat customers like **** and we take it. I'm not sure that they can change their corporate mentality enough to make a difference. It's a massive multi-national, X10 is one of millions of other products ranging from bog rolls to rockets, they will never care as much about any individual product. HTC makes smart phones, they can't afford to get a bad rep, this is good for us, the customers. Even Apple have more at stake with the iPhone. I fear Samsung will head in SE's footsteps, but, I haven't heard much about them either way. Sony has a reputation for spreading their customers' butt cheeks and ramming **** in.
3) The 512MB RAM pre-req has been floated by a number of sources, it will give SE perfect excuse not to give us 3.0; almost like it's been planned...
Also, another reason to avoid SE, we had pretty little progress on hacking the bootloader. Sony are fanatically against modding communities on their products - I wouldn't be surprised if it's never broken.
All in all, if you've already got X10, and it's working fine for you - I wouldn't rush out and sell it. However, you can get better phones from more customer friendly manufacturers nowadays; I would NOT buy a new X10.
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I'm sorry but why the **** did you get a SE phone for in the first place? You seem to really hate SE down to the core and yet you support them by buying their products, seems very strange to me. And SE has been totally open from the beginning with the OS issue and you should very well have known what you purchased, if not, the only failer here is you and not SE. And just look at the magics they have worked on 1.6! The only real difference from 2.1 is a tidy bit slower kernel and no live wallpapers, appart from that SE really did transform 1.6 in a fantastic way and i high hopes for further releases.
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Tjotte said:
I'm sorry but why the **** did you get a SE phone for in the first place? You seem to really hate SE down to the core and yet you support them by buying their products, seems very strange to me. And SE has been totally open from the beginning with the OS issue and you should very well have known what you purchased, if not, the only failer here is you and not SE. And just look at the magics they have worked on 1.6! The only real difference from 2.1 is a tidy bit slower kernel and no live wallpapers, appart from that SE really did transform 1.6 in a fantastic way and i high hopes for further releases.
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Here's the 1.6 vs 2.1 difference:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.1.html
Although, I agree with you that SE have made 1.6 a LOT better than the stock version.
And I think we'll get 2.2 at least because of this:
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/15260820648
But, when we'll get it, is the problem.
@CinCa0989
I would choose the Samsung Captivate if you want to play 3D games on your phone, due to its better gpu and multitouch capability.
I would also choose it if you want the latest software, whatever it is.
If you don't care about 3d games, multitouch or updates, get the X10.
Also, choose the X10, if you like taking pictures, and want better-looking videos. It will have 720p recording soon (by Q3 end), and an LED is better than no LED.
Tjotte said:
I'm sorry but why the **** did you get a SE phone for in the first place? You seem to really hate SE down to the core and yet you support them by buying their products, seems very strange to me. And SE has been totally open from the beginning with the OS issue and you should very well have known what you purchased, if not, the only failer here is you and not SE. And just look at the magics they have worked on 1.6! The only real difference from 2.1 is a tidy bit slower kernel and no live wallpapers, appart from that SE really did transform 1.6 in a fantastic way and i high hopes for further releases.
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Don't apologise for SE, you sound like someone in an abusive relations who takes any scraps thrown at you as evidence of "love." He hits me 'cause he loves me... SE took people who paid for a premium phone for a ride, no excuses, premium products should come with premium support. I don't hate SE, they are big corp acting like big corps do, but I don't have to like getting shafted.
TBH, I got it for my GF who wanted a decent camera; she used it for a couple of weeks, said "what a piece of crap" and got an iPhone 4. Although her beef was more with the flea market, sorry, android marketplace and the OS rather than the hardware - well she had some pretty strong opinions on the lack of multitouch. Since I need an android phone for work, I ditched my MT3G and hanged on to the XPERIA. I actually think there's a great phone struggling to be set free in there; if we could get 2.2 & ditch all the Sony crapola we'd be rocking.
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TBH, I got it for my GF who wanted a decent camera; she used it for a couple of weeks, said "what a piece of crap" and got an iPhone 4. Although her beef was more with the flea market, sorry, android marketplace and the OS rather than the hardware - well she had some pretty strong opinions on the lack of multitouch. Since I need an android phone for work, I ditched my MT3G and hanged on to the XPERIA. I actually think there's a great phone struggling to be set free in there; if we could get 2.2 & ditch all the Sony crapola we'd be rocking.
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Hey guys no need to be rude. The OP asked for personal opinion and not smart-ass answers .As far as "what a piece of crap" goes did you mean the camera is crap or the phone? In my opinion X10 has one of the best camera if not the best available in Android phones.
Yes the camera is as good as they get. My only issue is lack of mic levels so it's hard to record gigs without clipping.
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I'll keep it short. I apologize for my previous post, not knowing another fellas background story. I'm just really tired of all the whining on pree release knowledge. I'm happy with my phone, prolly spent 15-20h gathering knowledge before purchase. Peace ppl, and i hope the OP will be happy with whatever choice he makes!
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LOL, you've got pretty much same setup as me. I would just add
9)Penetrate 10)Wifi Analyzer 11)Handcent and replace 7) with bTunes
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How did I forget Handcent? Maybe I use it so much that I feel it's the default Messaging app. Need to check out how the default one is .
PLEASE NOTE: THIS THREAD IS CREATED BECAUSE I SINCERLY LIKE SE AND NOT FOR BASHING SE. IF YOU WANT TO TROLL OR BASH SE CREATE A NEW THREAD
Dear Sony,
I am one of your avid Fan. Right from the beginning I was using SE phones only. To Mention a few I have used F500i, J230, K750, W810i, K810i, W980, W705 and now X10. So as you can see I was using SE right from 2004. I can say “If you have Once used Sony Erricson, you will always use SonyEricsson”.
Let me be very clear. I love you so much. I have defended SE in many forums from many trolls and iSheep bashers for many years. I did this because I love SE and I believe you will always gives me what is best out there.
But off late you are not living up to your fans belief. What the is wrong with you?
The last master piece from you was W810i. After that all your products disappoint me. K810i, W910i and W980i all of them were total disappointment for me. Off late all your products follow a certain approach, you will announce a very good product and then there will tremendous delays in bringing it to the market, after that i will have many software bugs and hardware failures. So before the product becomes complete it will become outdated..
If you refuse to believe I will give you proof.
Do you know W810i was announced in Feb ’06 and availability was Mar ’06.
K810i was announced in Feb’07 and availability was Apr 07.
W980 was announced in Feb’ 08 and availability was Aug 08.
W705 was announced in Oct’ 08 and availability was May 09.
Satio was announced in Feb’09 and availability was Nov ’09.
And Xperia X1, X2 and X10 every kid knows its delays and bugs.
What happened to you SE? There were long delays. Even after delays none of these phones lived up to its hype ( W980,W705, Satio and X10). You were the first to announce many technologies (8MP, 12MP camera, snapdragon with android phone, even 4" screen) but you were the last to bring it to the market with sky high prices. Where is my Old SE? where I can get all latest tech in a budget phone? Where are you SE?
And Like a Crown for all your failure, the X10 2.1 update. When other are pushing to bring 2.2 for their flag ship device, you cant even bring 2.1 to your Flag ship phone. Instead of bringing 2.2, you are back porting live wallpaper and 5 home screens to 1.6.
WHY THE HELL YOU ARE RE-INVENTING THE WHEEL?
Stop wasting your precious resources in back porting things. Move more resource to bring 2.2 to X10. If you cant alteast please open the bootloader.
X10 had everything to make you success but you missed it.. Good Design, Good Hardware (at Nov '09 nobody had this hardware) and Good Name (You have loyal fan base) and Perfect time (Think if it had been released during Christmas time).
X10 could have been your own iPhone or Droid. It could have been your golden egg but you missed it. What going on in your mind SE? If I can think all these, cant the armani wearing million dollar salaried EO's think? Have you lost it?
We have defended you so long SE but you are now disappointing us more. You even embarrass us by saying you turned down google (X10 as Nexus one would have been epic). Please don’t cheat us more SE. We love you but there is a limit for our patience. If you keep cheating us then Even God (I believe he is there) cant save you.
All I can say is please bring out Froyo update for X10 soon and with no bugs (We dont want 1000 new features we just want Bug less phone). After all you are a more talented company and you certainly deserve a second chance like Moto.
Please SE don’t disappoint us again and save yourself from bankruptcy. Please Make us Believe
---- A sincere, beaten, disappointed and embarrassed Sony Ericsson Fan .
A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language.
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class.
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets.
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market.
Good day sir!
Another point god or gods do not exist, therefore offer no threat.
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A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language. - Removed
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class. -- Removed
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2 - What I ment was they are back porting 2.1 features to 1.6 - Ambient time app
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets. But Total cost of ownership for a not so high end is high compared to other high end phones. This will be the thought of a average guy
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market. I agree. If they could had made things perfect like releasing with 2.1 and in december, they could have sold Millions in other countries too
Good day sir!
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Good day to you too sir
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Another point god or gods do not exist, therefore offer no threat.
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I believe he is there But no Offense (Original post edited to reflect my view)
IF some one could send this to SE CEO, I would be glad. Or If you can pm me his mail-id, I will send it myself.
Thanks
No offense but what do you think you reach by sending this kind of letter to a CEO? No matter which company he is leading, this really is a "straight in the dustbin" letter for those managers...
Again no offense, you wrote down what you think, but I want to bet he don't read till the half of it, to try that out, you might put in the last sentence something about him having an affair with a dead horse, if you dont get anything back, I proved my point....
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Gotta agree with PollPixx.
imo they don't go past the subject of e-mails... snail mail is a thing of past.
moreover they don't go over this stuff personally but their PA's etc do... separate the junk out and send in the "really important" stuff... but only god knows what that is (apart from them )
Looking away from the language, it is a fine letter to SE.
I have also only had SE phones private, starting with the old
Ericsson 318, Erisson t68
t280, t610, k530, k750, k810, k850
c905
w595, w715, w760
x10, x10 mini, x10 mini pro
My 3 kids have all had SE W595 and now they all have X10 mini.
Also i have only used SE for work in many years, currently i have a x10 mini pro...
At work it have been me that have decided what phones we have bought and used for the last 3-4 years, so i have been the main reason that we have only bought SE phones...
- that is over 250 SE phones all together, at work...
(I know that it is NOTHING in the big picture looking from SE headquarters, still it must count for something)
In this answer i just want to ad my own dissapointment thoug...
The main problems is that the big X10 is missing the FM-radio, missing the better headset connection and missing the one finger zoom, while the two cheap small X10 mini models have those things.
What is that about SE ?
Why have you decided to make 3 different X10 series phones, and then at the same time make the TOP model, the one with the weakest features ?
I am really dissapointed with you SE, the lack of updates, the missing features in the X10 top model.
From (i think it was) the old T610, or was it K750, and all the way up to now, my SE phones have allways had FM radio build in, and that was for me a loved feature, then you decide to release the X10 without FM Radio, and after that you again decide to put in FM radio in the mini´s ??
I know i didn´t read close enough in the specs when i bought my X10, but i really was expecting that there would be FM radio in an SE phone, and offcource there would be in the top model, no question about that. What a dissapointment !
An other lack is that tracker (step counter) that was build in i think all the newer phones eg. W595 and W715, now with X10 i again see a loved feature removed, why ?
I find it strange that good working features that SE implement in your phones, is removed again from newer phones.
Features that actually IS the SE brand, features that we learn to love and use every day, you decide to remove.
Why ?
I don´t get the point in making that huge effort to make a few nice new features like timescape and mediascape, and becource of those features you have been left behind, and are currently stock on Android 1,6, and right now we all are waiting for S/E-Android 2.1,, ONLY Android 2,1 when other companies like HTC are moving away from Android 2.1 and on to Android 2.2...
S/E why not release Android 2.2 fast and be the leader in the marked.
Then let people decide for them self IF they want the S/E signature-features like TimeScape and MediaScape when you have those ready later.
Just make new features avalible from your fine PlayNOW system just like you did with CreaTouch.
Why have you at the same time decided to lock down the bootloader of the X10 when Android is a brand new OS you are just learning ??
- release the bootloader now, and look what happen, learn from it and then when you are actually doing a better job coding the OS than other DEV´s on the www, you can decide if you again will lock down bootloaders in your future android phones.
At the moment it make no sense at all, not to let your dev-team learn all they can about what can be done with the hardware you have made.
The hardware is actually really great, and solid build, it is "only" the software that is the problem...
Now i move on to the strange thing about wide range of current phone models you have on the marked.
Why that many, is that really nessesserry at all, really ??
Why not make an effort to be the absolutly best there is on a mutch smaller range of phones, only focus on a few models, perhaps only android phones, as you have said that you want to be world leaders in Android powered phones in a few years anyway.
As i see it you only need one X10 model more to have a complete set of phones, so there will be at least one that souit everyone.
Add one more X10 mini and make it with an old style slide out t9 keyboard.
At last.
I have also been thinking about jumping over to an other brand, and perhaps also look for other phones next time we need some at work, as i am that dissapointed with SE...
But private i find my self thinking that i perhaps just should wait and get the X12 when that is released...
Can i really be that stupid, REALLY ???
- dispite my dissapointment with SE, really ???
SE you are SO lucky that you have a big and loving fan base...
At work i KNOW that SE have the best hardware and the lack of features i mentioned here is no problem in work use...
Again SE you are REALLY lucky that you have a big loving fan base...
Just DON`T dissapoint us anymore !
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I believe he is there But no Offense (Original post edited to reflect my view)
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He? Why would a god need to have a specific gender? They would have no use for it.
Anyway i dont think religious dribble should be in an email like that to a company. Makes you look like a bit of a fruit cake.
pshdo said:
An other lack is that tracker (step counter) that was build in i think all the newer phones eg. W595 and W715, now with X10 i again see a loved feature removed, why ?
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I won't bother replying to the rest...but, my X10 has one.
It's called the Android Market, you can download anything, including pedometers.
At least they all look familiar and have similar sounding names - X5, X8, X10, X10 mini, X10 mini pro. SE are trying to satisfy each segment of the market, just like their competitors HTC, Samsung, Motorola and Nokia do.
@iead1
Is there something you're not telling us? Like who you work for.
Please dont embarass yourself. Your grammar is atrocious.
How about buying an AD on newspaper, and then I'm sure the SE CEO will see this.
sony in general is a big comany, my family has been buying sony things for at least 20 years (got an old and really old stereo which still works o.0)
they always had the best things in the marker, we even say if it's a sony is good
in the past I never used SE, just used nokia or motorola but when i saw the x1 i just felt in love, but when I knew that no wm 6.5 would arrive to it i was so pissed we paid a lot for it to get nothing more, same applies for the x10
i know companies want to get more profits but where's the customer's satisfaction? they use to think that is better to have loyal customers for a long term instead of just having a lot for few months (kinda the thing is going on today)
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@iead1
Is there something you're not telling us? Like who you work for.
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I work for a local board of education, in the mountains of rural Kansai Japan.
Want me to take a picture of my desk with my X10?
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I work for a local board of education, in the mountains of rural Kansai Japan.
Want me to take a picture of my desk with my X10?
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does that mean SE JP HQ??? xD jk
alankstiyo said:
does that mean SE JP HQ??? xD jk
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I wish! I'd be making more money than I do now!
iead1 said:
I won't bother replying to the rest...but, my X10 has one.
It's called the Android Market, you can download anything, including pedometers.
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Yes, but those on marked is far from working as good as the one in eg. w715...
- and if you was actually using it, you would know that ;-)
Anything ?
- then throw me a link to an fm radio application for the x10, or to one finger zoom perhaps, or to any of the other things that the x10 don't have, that the mini's and all the old SE phones have... *LOL*
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
I think that the live wall paper and home screens reference has to do with the SE Japan release of Ambientime which has 5 home screens, pseudocode live wallpapers and a new lock/unlock swipe which is more animated.
That app looks like work that was done as an assessment of the phone's potential to do live wallpapers. It's sort of interesting even if it makes the phone laggy and lockup.
iead1 said:
A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language.
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class.
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets.
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market.
Good day sir!
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don't know if it'll install but here you go
Hi All,
I am from Singapore, my contract is going to end in April..
I am just curious which phone I should go for??
I am more diverted towards Xperia Play
Its not that I hate my X10i or anything else so please no war zone here
Just genuine suggestions with some valid point, thanks in advance!!
samsung galaxy 2 i would say
after all sony will lock the bootloader again
with the galaxy, u can directly install cyanogen roms =D
if you like, nothing can stop you
Arc or Pro
Your choice
personally i would like to get the optimus 2x if good roms are released for it, if not galaxy s II. If your happy to go with SE again then go for it, personally i dont want to wait a year 2.4. Im still unconvinced that they've learnt from the x10...
i believe they have becuase they stated that it takes long with x10 due to mediascape and timescape being so deeply integrated into the system. But with new phones they are just apps and thats it.
Depends on your budget too? I'm guessing the mid-range plans will fetch SGD$600 or so ba...
And if you're lucky enough, complains of X10 have reached M1/Singtel/Starhub's ears and they will try decrease the price in order to get more people to get?
I know... In my dreams =/
I feel like changing to Arc, which, is against my principles of holding on to a phone until it dies off... Ah well, see how it goes ba...
Why not get something that's really a step up from the x10? Dual core, with really good specs like the atrix or something.. Why get basically another x10? Also why trust se have learned anything at all...
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Why not get something that's really a step up from the x10? Dual core, with really good specs like the atrix or something.. Why get basically another x10? Also why trust se have learned anything at all...
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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OP said no warzone, you just fed this warzone...
They're just saying, not always Sony Ericsson, XDA forums is for ALL brands and manufacturers, people can state what they want...
Also.. the word "step-up" is subjective to everyone, to some it'll just mean the newer version with just some extra specs (so keeping in line with Sony Ericsson stuff), to some it'll be just something much technically better (could be any company with just a better hardware padded phone)...
So no more arguments now,
The OP is looking for a new phone, let's help him make a well-informed choice.
Arc is looking great. Some other Android Phones looking ugly and have the ugly stock Android Style but the SE Phones always have great Styles and Android with good Style is the best. Thats what i like about SE but i dont know if my next Phone is a SE Phone i need to look if they learned their lessons and how the Arc will do.
Arc is the best looking forthcoming handset... however, think I'd go for the NEO.. Front facing camera, and slightly smaller.. the rest of the spec seem pretty much the same (off the top of my head!)
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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I'm not talking about a little baby step, I'm talking about a bigger jump. If you're going to be stuck with a phone for possibly three years, why not get one that will at least have some staying power as far as specs go?
Jesus you are one uptight douche...
When did I say anything about SE having dual core? Apparently you have trouble reading. The OP said an SE phone OR SOMETHING ELSE. I suggested the atrix.
I love my x10 but I just feel like these new models aren't enough of a leap in specs to really consider it an "upgrade".
I have just as much of a right to state my opinion as I do, what is funny is that you just happen to consider your own opinion (and that is all it is...) fact, while anyone else's are apparently wrong..
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OP said no warzone, you just fed this warzone...
They're just saying, not always Sony Ericsson, XDA forums is for ALL brands and manufacturers, people can state what they want...
Also.. the word "step-up" is subjective to everyone, to some it'll just mean the newer version with just some extra specs (so keeping in line with Sony Ericsson stuff), to some it'll be just something much technically better (could be any company with just a better hardware padded phone)...
So no more arguments now,
The OP is looking for a new phone, let's help him make a well-informed choice.
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Uh huh. See the way he responds, and you accuse me of starting the war. Zzzz.
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I'm not talking about a little baby step, I'm talking about a bigger jump. If you're going to be stuck with a phone for possibly three years, why not get one that will at least have some staying power as far as specs go?
Jesus you are one uptight douche...
When did I say anything about SE having dual core? Apparently you have trouble reading. The OP said an SE phone OR SOMETHING ELSE. I suggested the atrix.
I love my x10 but I just feel like these new models aren't enough of a leap in specs to really consider it an "upgrade". Maybe not for tech geeks like you, but definitely for people who just want a good-looking gadget to own.
I have just as much of a right to state my opinion as I do, what is funny is that you just happen to consider your own opinion (and that is all it is...) fact, while anyone else's are apparently wrong..
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Because it looks nicer and has better specs? DUH. And with their tactics, it's getting hard to stay faithful with the phone for too long. I myself am a self-professed faithful owner who claimed to stay with the same phone until it dies off or gets stolen or lost, but seeing the Arc, I myself am thinking of getting it, contradicting my own beliefs and principles. Even the topic starter is contemplating, as well as other existing Rachael owners.
Admit it nor not, Sony Ericsson is good at making eyecandy stuff which makes people wanna own it.
I'm not Jesus, but thanks for thinking highly of me. By the way, calling me a douche shows you are no better than me =D
Yeah. SOMETHING ELSE. NOT SOME OTHER BRANDS. He already hinted by giving the former 2 models as the same brands an example. Sony Ericsson doesn't even have Atrix. Apparently YOU'RE the one who have trouble reading. Anyway why get so hyped up with dual core when it might be a worse juice sucker, making you complain about further short battery life? I'd rather wait till things are getting stable over time rather than advancements that are unpredictable.
You don't feel so but he feels so.
If you want to state opinions, STATE POSITIVE OPINIONS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PISS OTHERS OFF, KIDDO. By doubting Sony Ericsson's integrity, you, too, are thinking you are right while they are wrong. So that doesn't make you any better than me.
Whatever stuff you say about me basically reflects it on you as well.
Wolfbreak said:
Arc is looking great. Some other Android Phones looking ugly and have the ugly stock Android Style but the SE Phones always have great Styles and Android with good Style is the best. Thats what i like about SE but i dont know if my next Phone is a SE Phone i need to look if they learned their lessons and how the Arc will do.
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If you don't harbor any expectations like getting it hacked or expecting further OS updates, it should be fine. =D
But one thing deterring me is the lack of Mediascape. I'm more of a multimedia kinda person, so I prefer good music players... And see whether will the Arc have Japanese keyboard (and hopefully, a Cantonese keyboard too).
I totally agree with you about the other droids not looking pretty... Actually Google Nexus One was alright, with live wallpaper and all, comparing with the then-Rachael without live wallpapers. But after reading reviews by owners that the music player was sucky, I decided to wait for Rachael instead, trusting Sony's music players through experience. And best of all, Racharl has Japanese language and input installed in it! That was totally great news.
Guess it all boils down to priorities. The factors in the phone which makes you wanna own. I knew Rachael had no live wallpapers, and no multitouch, yet I still bought it. With no regrets. Haha.
And don't go to the updates part. I did not own any phones which are software upgradable in the past, so I didn't count on it, expecting the company too lazy to invest their time updating something that they've gotten rid of and start planning on making better phones.
Something else means not other brands, yet I'm the one with trouble reading lol... Is like to see where he said that..you seem to be making his statement your own. You have some real issues dude.
fiscidtox said:
Something else means not other brands, yet I'm the one with trouble reading lol... Is like to see where he said that..you seem to be making his statement your own. You have some real issues dude.
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I've already explaint how he used examples to support his phrase. If you can't understand even my explanations, you can forget about accusing me for having trouble reading.
Again, this is a good example of what you say about others being reflected on you too.
Yeah. And my issue is YOU.
Haha he said or something else, not or something else sony necessarily...
Take your prozac man...
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Haha he said or something else, not or something else sony necessarily...
Take your prozac man...
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yeah. Something else like Neo or Pro or whatever they have. DUH.
If he is thinking or alternatives, he would have asked Arc, HTC or some other brands?