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Any Chance of a new Rom with Andriod 2.2 with Sense?

I love HTC Sense but I like the hummingbird processor in this phone. It seems to be 2X or more faster (video card) which is because the snapdragon processor has an old dated video processor built into it. Whats the chances? I currently have a G1 which is old and a fat bastard and would like to upgrade. I have a custom rom on the G1 and it's great how all the people still support it with the great roms. I guess I'm hoping they support this phone as well. This is T-Mo's best phone and probably will be for a while. Thanks!

nope, aint gonna happen. We are lucky devs can get sense running stable on non-sense HTC devices.

they will prolly give us a 2.1 sense port soon but 2.2 will take some time

Sense is garbage, and you won't see any reputable dev such as Cyanogen using it in their rom's for legality reasons. It's heavy on the CPU and bogs the phone down.
Also, this thread shouldn't be in the dev section.

sombionix said:
Sense is garbage, and you won't see any reputable dev such as Cyanogen using it in their rom's for legality reasons. It's heavy on the CPU and bogs the phone down.
Also, this thread shouldn't be in the dev section.
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Sounds like a developer type of question to me...

I am sure there will definitely be a 2.1 ROM with Sense UI.

BigWorldJust said:
I am sure there will definitely be a 2.1 ROM with Sense UI.
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Yeah, it probably just won't be any good like usual. If you want Sense get a HTC phone with it.

Shagman68 said:
Sounds like a developer type of question to me...
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Standard protocol for XDA forums is that questions go in the general forum. The development forum is for roms, mods, patches, etc. Not questions about them.

Just wait on the offical.
At least that is what i am doing. I dont want to mess up my $600 investment heh

with gingerbread right around the corner...

ive been practicing moving away from sense. i suppose even cyanogen doesnt even come close, but i got to wondering...is there anyone in the world who would stay at 2.2 just for the sake of sense?

When was the expected date for ginger, again?

igotsthemagicinme said:
ive been practicing moving away from sense. i suppose even cyanogen doesnt even come close, but i got to wondering...is there anyone in the world who would stay at 2.2 just for the sake of sense?
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Sense will be in Gingerbread, I guarantee it.

Award Tour said:
Sense will be in Gingerbread, I guarantee it.
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you wanna put mulah on that one

werxen said:
When was the expected date for ginger, again?
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obviously its all rumors until it happens (2.1 on the hero proved that) but everywhere i look i see mid-october

Award Tour said:
Sense will be in Gingerbread, I guarantee it.
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you wanna put mulah on that one
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Still just rumors but here you go
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/07/23...oid-3-0-gingerbread-won’t-support-custom-uis/
From what I've seen recently, Gingerbread will be 2.3, 2.4, or something like that. Honeycomb is now 3.0. Everything I've read says that Gingerbread won't be a huge change from Froyo and that Honeycomb will become available, first on tablets with phones to follow, early next year. All still just speculation though.

igotsthemagicinme said:
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Not really but a lot of Gingerbread rumors were spun to hell.
1) Techcrunch was the originator of the no skin rumor. All they said was that a couple of sources close to the Android team told them that Gingerbread's UI/UX aims to be so good that skins would become obsolete. They never said that skins were banned. In fact, banning skins would completely break the open source nature of the AOSP. But of course a couple of blogs spun this as meaning that Sense/Touchwiz/etc was dead.
2) The Gingerbread minimum required specs - like it requiring a 1GHz CPU, etc. They were deemed false by Google. Of course you still have idiots claiming that the G2 w/ it's faster 800 MHz CPU is ineligible for Gingerbread.
I believe that Gingerbread will be amazing and will finally surpass iOS in UI/UX. But I also believe that HTC's software/design team is lead by a bunch of idiots that think they can out perform Google's team. Hence why I think Sense wont die.

ausch30 said:
Still just rumors but here you go
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/07/23...oid-3-0-gingerbread-won’t-support-custom-uis/
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i call bs. thatd be the first article ive read that concludes with htc updating sense. i dont believe it, but maybe im biased since im a cyanwarrior. for the sake of the convo though, lets assume 3.0 is. already released..with no sense. do you stay at 2.2 for the weather animations, or move on up to the ranks of the GODS?

Award Tour said:
Not really but a lot of Gingerbread rumors were spun to hell.
1) Techcrunch was the originator of the no skin rumor. All they said was that a couple of sources close to the Android team told them that Gingerbread's UI/UX aims to be so good that skins would become obsolete. They never said that skins were banned. In fact, banning skins would completely break the open source nature of the AOSP. But of course a couple of blogs spun this as meaning that Sense/Touchwiz/etc was dead.
2) The Gingerbread minimum required specs - like it requiring a 1GHz CPU, etc. They were deemed false by Google. Of course you still have idiots claiming that the G2 w/ it's faster 800 MHz CPU is ineligible for Gingerbread.
I believe that Gingerbread will be amazing and will finally surpass iOS in UI/UX. But I also believe that HTC's software/design team is lead by a bunch of idiots that think they can out perform Google's team. Hence why I think Sense wont die.
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LMAO i like your logic but for the sake of the convo, 3.0 has no sense, what do you do?

igotsthemagicinme said:
LMAO i like your logic but for the sake of the convo, 3.0 has no sense, what do you do?
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I don't have a problem with sense but, as you can see in my avatar, Mine is heavily modified (Riptide8). If it's there, people will mod it. If it's not, people will still mod it.

igotsthemagicinme said:
LMAO i like your logic but for the sake of the convo, 3.0 has no sense, what do you do?
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I already use CM. I refuse to use any Sense ROM. I've said this before but I was just about ready to return my EVO because of Sense.

Award Tour said:
I already use CM. I refuse to use any Sense ROM. I've said this before but I was just about ready to return my EVO because of Sense.
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well according to the rumors we're pretending are real, even cm doesnt come close. in fact, all devs will literally have to start from scratch, hypothetically speaking...

igotsthemagicinme said:
well according to the rumors we're pretending are real, even cm doesnt come close. in fact, all devs will literally have to start from scratch, hypothetically speaking...
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I don't get what you are trying to say.

he is saying that he buys in to the tech blogs (which have huge reputations for spreading many false or spun rumors) that gingerbread (or 3.0) will be so amazing that nothing done previously will compare and everyone will need to start developing mods based on this new version from scratch. Also that companies that have spent millions on there "us" will drop them completely even though they have promoted them as part of there brand and have many people who really like them.
Personally i don't see it happening a lot of the same hype came while waiting for froyo. I wouldn't call it on the level of the "GODS" compared to 2.1. I personally remove as much of sense as possible from roms as is so for me it would just make my job easier however i dont see it happening logically speaking.

You can rest assured that HTC will continue to put Sense on their phones - even after Gingerbread, Honeycomb, etc...
They just completely revamped Sense (Desire HD).
Blur, Touchwiz... I don't know - but I would put money on HTC Sense still being there in the future. I don't have a link but I thought that I read somewhere that HTC has already said as much.

Google stated its coming up with something state of the art that will make sense obsoleet. However, when HTC pushes its 3.0 Android's out the door it will have some sort of sense no doubt. Also try to read and understand what google is writing. They are saying current launchers/sense is obsoleet and that it wont be necessary for gingerbread. They arnt saying futur launchers wont come out and improve on what they are building. The article I read clearly can be missleading if you are just skimming through it but if you actually take the time to read it you will see the words they use discribe only current launchers and sense being not needed.
Oh and my wifes HERO has 2.2 thanks to CM6 It works just as well as the Evo version but its performance settings seriously need to remain untouched unless you are willing to do several test because things like JIT can actually slow that phoen down.

omegasun18 said:
Personally i don't see it happening a lot of the same hype came while waiting for froyo. I wouldn't call it on the level of the "GODS" compared to 2.1. I personally remove as much of sense as possible from roms as is so for me it would just make my job easier however i dont see it happening logically speaking.
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It depends on how you look at it. If you go by the rumors, Gingerbread isn't going to add/improve on the current API/functionality of Android if at all. Instead it'll be a major upgrade to the UI/UX. Up until now we've seen minor/gradual improvements, this release I believe, we'll be a major visual step.
So even though it'll internally be very similar to Froyo, the UI we'll be different enough for us to be wowed and feel like we're using something completely new.

Kinda funny you bring this up cause I just read another thread in Q/A where some guy was asking for 2.1 roms cause he didn't like 2.2 so he wanted to go back. Interesting reading day so far....

Sense is horrible I'm about to get rid of myns warm twopointtwo rom to rid sense from my evo, good rom though but just cant stand sense
BUT what i do like about sense is how you can open the phone and start typing the letters with the dialpad and retrieving contacts on the fly...can non sense do this?

mikeDCMDVA said:
Sense is horrible I'm about to get rid of myns warm twopointtwo rom to rid sense from my evo, good rom though but just cant stand sense
BUT what i do like about sense is how you can open the phone and start typing the letters with the dialpad and retrieving contacts on the fly...can non sense do this?
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First of all... what? Half of that first sentance made no sense lol.
Secondly... dialer one. Try it. Its awesome.

DHD rom development-what's going on?

Hey guys,what's up?
Well,as most(if not all) of you,I am enjoying this wonderful phone for almost a week now.However I've been watching the DHD forums since they started,when I had my Desire and my Hero only.Not that I am unhappy about something and everyone around here is pretty helpful and all,but I thought that such a device would get more attention.Especially 4.3 inchers from HTC(Leo and Evo) are very favoured by developers.For the DHD there are only a few roms and they don't get updated very frequently.
Does anyone know whether it is just too early or if I'll have to stick with it?Maybe it's just that I had the Hero and the Desire when they were all the rage and am used to that,but I don't think that's the case...
Well,the thread's open for discussion(civilised if possible ) and I'm waiting to here other people's thoughts on the matter!
With kind regards,
Apostolis

tolis626 said:
Hey guys,what's up?
Well,as most(if not all) of you,I am enjoying this wonderful phone for almost a week now.However I've been watching the DHD forums since they started,when I had my Desire and my Hero only.Not that I am unhappy about something and everyone around here is pretty helpful and all,but I thought that such a device would get more attention.Especially 4.3 inchers from HTC(Leo and Evo) are very favoured by developers.For the DHD there are only a few roms and they don't get updated very frequently.
Does anyone know whether it is just too early or if I'll have to stick with it?Maybe it's just that I had the Hero and the Desire when they were all the rage and am used to that,but I don't think that's the case...
Well,the thread's open for discussion(civilised if possible ) and I'm waiting to here other people's thoughts on the matter!
With kind regards,
Apostolis
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I believe it is still a bit early for mass-development.
Dont forget that the device has been in very short supply since its introduction.
Cheers

I too agree. Shortages globally may influence the lack of current interest. However, it would not really be interest...more like mass-interest. Developers have done a lot for this phone, there have been many users here making threads, such as the camera threads, battery life threads, and there are many replies and many more views. I believe there have been only a few developers who decided to get the Desire HD. Why? Some may regard the Desire HD as not a big enough reason to ditch the Evos, Desires and HD2s! I'm sure this phone will boost up its demand in XDA soon. Give it a month or two. Another speculation is: this device is almost perfection. What can you do to make it perfect, considering all humans have different views and ideas of perfection? Only making the device "better" is attaining a higher form of perfection or nearing that goal. Therefore, those particular areas in modding can take a while to implement!

I too kinda have the same question..

Elemental_Fire said:
I too agree. Shortages globally may influence the lack of current interest. However, it would not really be interest...more like mass-interest. Developers have done a lot for this phone, there have been many users here making threads, such as the camera threads, battery life threads, and there are many replies and many more views. I believe there have been only a few developers who decided to get the Desire HD. Why? Some may regard the Desire HD as not a big enough reason to ditch the Evos, Desires and HD2s! I'm sure this phone will boost up its demand in XDA soon. Give it a month or two. Another speculation is: this device is almost perfection. What can you do to make it perfect, considering all humans have different views and ideas of perfection? Only making the device "better" is attaining a higher form of perfection or nearing that goal. Therefore, those particular areas in modding can take a while to implement!
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Well,I too place my bets to the fact that it's early and all.And boy did I like what you said!It is perfect indeed!
It's just that we can get many things more with custom roms.Not only performance-wise,but many functions restricted by HTC.Anyway,I for one would overclock the hell out of it just to see it kick some Sammy Ass!
Shame I'm all talk for now.I have installed the 1.72 OTA(thank god I S-Off'ed my radio before I did) and now I can't root wihtout downgrading and thus deleting all my apps and data.And boy I can't stand the whole process of reinstalling everything from scratch just to have nothing from my data.No,I'll wait some time in case they manage to root the 1.72 OTA.And god I hope they will!

tolis626 said:
Well,I too place my bets to the fact that it's early and all.And boy did I like what you said!It is perfect indeed!
It's just that we can get many things more with custom roms.Not only performance-wise,but many functions restricted by HTC.Anyway,I for one would overclock the hell out of it just to see it kick some Sammy Ass!
Shame I'm all talk for now.I have installed the 1.72 OTA(thank god I S-Off'ed my radio before I did) and now I can't root wihtout downgrading and thus deleting all my apps and data.And boy I can't stand the whole process of reinstalling everything from scratch just to have nothing from my data.No,I'll wait some time in case they manage to root the 1.72 OTA.And god I hope they will!
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I am sure they will. Rest assured, it is a matter of time. Remember, good things come to those who wait (and don't) xD

Frankly i dont see the problem. There are plenty of roms out at the moment. Theres radios, kernels and even flawlessly working CM. Modaco has a kitchen...
I dont think development is going slow at all!

ftgg99 said:
Frankly i dont see the problem. There are plenty of roms out at the moment. Theres radios, kernels and even flawlessly working CM. Modaco has a kitchen...
I dont think development is going slow at all!
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Most probably you're right,in fact all of you must be right now.Pardon my impatience,but I've used the Hero and the Desire on their "time of glory",when they were,like,what everybody wanted and many people developed for them(I know it's not exactly like that but never mind ).Anyway,it must be just too early...Well,time will tell!And I think that time,being a nasty bastard,won't be saying anything about the DHD until the first rumors and leaks about HTC's Gingerbread update start coming out.

Who needs quantity when you can have quality?
We have Cyanogenmod.

I think you've been unlucky? to come to us just after the gingerbread release and the fallow period prior to the Gingerbread based roms

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I think you've been unlucky? to come to us just after the gingerbread release and the fallow period prior to the Gibson based roms
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Maybe...Well,I hope we can call this "The calm before the storm"!
Who needs quantity when you can have quality?
We have Cyanogenmod.
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Well dr.m0x,I for one prefer Sense but seeing support from Cyanogen Team is truly inspiring.These guys kick some serious ass!
Btw,does anyone know if any efforts for rooting the 1.72 OTA are being made?As I said before(or I think I said before,I feel kinda drowsy right now )I'd like to root my DHD but,if possible,without downgrading.Reinstalling everything over again?Nah,too much...

we have almost all the types of roms available for the dhd, we're only missing a miui port.

lukesky said:
we have almost all the types of roms available for the dhd, we're only missing a miui port.
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very true.. we are also losing on devs working on AOSP.. but i guess a MIUI port would be very appreciated by DHD users

Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm satisfied with the Tom development so far, but the Theming area is a bit too small: not enough themes!
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HTC Desire HD gets FCC approval with North American 3G
Could get busier soon.

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HTC Desire HD gets FCC approval with North American 3G
Could get busier soon.
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Hohoho..!
Imagine us DHD users doubling!It'd be a hell of a forum!
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Well,looking at the Desire Z forums makes me feel kinda jealous...
They get more roms,they already got cyanogenmod 7,they got a 2GHz kernel(yeah,I'm such a crazy m0therf^cker I would flash that! ) and so on.I want these things for us too!Plus they would look so much better in 4,3".
What do you guys think?

That was posted in the portal a few days ago in the interview of m-deejay:
orb3000: Are you planning to expand your work to other devices or operating systems in the future? If so, please give us a glimpse.
m-deejay: I think in the near future there will be work for … HTC Desire HD!
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Am I the only one excited about this?

maybe you are right and other phones (may) have more development going on.
I do feel that, the dev. that is going on is of very high quality with good working roms being released, tuned & tweaked kernels being released and so on.
I believe that the source code for 1.72 has not been released yet, preventing OC kernels for this.
Root for 1.72 is available through custom roms, including the 1.72 update (like the LeeDrOid rom I am using).
For me the number of roms is ok....I'd be flashing all the time otherwise

i think there is no time for development.. they all enjoy this phone xD like me..
and waiting for 2.3 from htc is more senseful to continue to cook some roms

160,000 views - Only one ROM developer

Well, the Streak forums are about to hit 160k...but still we've only got one ROM developer (Although he and the others involved are doing a fantastic job!).
So what's wrong with the streak that nobody wants to develop for it?
Surely with the thousands of people who visit the section there must be at least two or three of them that have the necessary skills to have a go?
Do we have B.O. and nobody has told us?

Hey! Good point
I was surprised to see such limited ROM development too - especially as I came over to Android from Windows Mobile.
There are ROMs still being developed for my almost-ancient Touch Pro - I had to go back to it as backup phone as my Dell is taken for screen repair.
I have a feeling it is harder for the Android platform?
I spent most of my time flashing WM roms because, although they may have good designs by Chef's etc, the core platform was a waste of time so not possible to improve the user experience by much - but we did search and search!
Going back to Touch Pro now seems soooo sluggish and boring!
Anyway, goodnight.

i was thinking about this earlier too. but android phones typically have less roms. and what other roms would you want?

get the cyan team involved

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x2. Is Steve part of Cyan's team? His name is listed under CyanogenMod wiki as the lead dev for the streak.
Maybe we can put up a donation thread to get some devs in line and help get them their own streak to work with. That's how we did it on the Vibrant forums to get devs involved. If you look at that forum now, they got a ton of dev support and Samsung isn't particularly a CM favorite to work with. I'm guessing it's the same with Dell.

I guess its because the streak isn't as popular as other devices. I'm pretty tech savvy and have been reading up a lot on rom cooking (more like file pulling/pushing/swapping) for android but there is no one concise source, I've ben mixing and matching info from various posts, blogs, and forums. So hopefully pretty soon I'll be reaching the ranks of dj_steve
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This is the first GSM phone I've owned where I had only ONE custom ROM option outside of the Stock ROM. Even some of the less popular phones on this site have more ROMs and developers.
As much as I love DJ Steve for what he's done and is still doing, I would like more options. I just hope Steve doesn't get tired of all the begging and whining from folks.

I have bought this exact same topic up before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847773
I have always been a WinMo guy myself, and my last phone, the HD2, had about 30 ROMs going for it.
It was brilliant, every one was different, some had little nuances others had their own. I love it when its like that.
But then I came to the Streak, with only one Chef! It seems a little strange to me, but I will just have to deal with it.
I prefer to have a big choice in ROMs. I wonder if the WP7 scene will become like the WM6.5.x scene in the future?

Doubtful since win7 isn't as open as Android is. Speaking of the HD2, did you notice how much Android Roms are available for that device? I lost count LOL.
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I have bought this exact same topic up before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847773
I have always been a WinMo guy myself, and my last phone, the HD2, had about 30 ROMs going for it.
It was brilliant, every one was different, some had little nuances others had their own. I love it when its like that.
But then I came to the Streak, with only one Chef! It seems a little strange to me, but I will just have to deal with it.
I prefer to have a big choice in ROMs. I wonder if the WP7 scene will become like the WM6.5.x scene in the future?
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I've been on 2 previous Android devices before the Streak. The G1 and the Legend. The had loads of roms. Cyan's one of them. I didnt do much modding on the Legend though. At least, not that I remember. Hope atleast a couple of devs get interested with the Streak.

I think if there's a free kitchen for cooking the ROMs, it might help with getting people involved.

THJahar said:
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Yeah, and there are about 100k posts stating that users have tried this and tried that and now their Streak doesn't work properly
More 'developers' would just increase that exponentially and the forum would soon be full of wingy baby winers blaiming their device for not working correctly

There were lots of roms for the htc tilt and moto droid those were my last two phones but most of them were buggy and made me want to put my stock rom back on with root priveledges. This rom for dell streak I have to say is the best experience ive had with a custom rom so far. Im on steves android 2.2 on att white streak. Although I love the rom and im glad it was easy to decide which one to put on my phone since theres only one, that does seem very strange there is only one. Actually information on the sreak in general has been very hard for me to come by. None of my friends or family even heard of the dell streak and even the people at att were trippin on it. It took me days of googling to figure out how to root this damn white one from best buy cause theres no damn info on it. I dont know why, its by far the best phone ive ever laid my hands on and everyone elses phone looks like a joke in comparison. Its funny wen people with the hd or evo or droid x think they have a big screen and u pull out a five incher a hahaha lol.
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Anyone Feel Like the Desire Z/G2 Lacks Development....

in certain areas? Things like roms and overclocking kernels our developers are on top of, no question about it
From time to time, I wonder into the other android device's development sections of xda and think what if we had those developments. Take for example the Nexus S, they have a sound patch that improves the sound quality and ext4 optimizations to increase performance in Gingerbread. In the Desire HD development section they have a performance enhanced kernel for CM7. Just a few examples of such developments I see in other sections, that gets me thinking.
Dont get me wrong I appreciate all the hard work and effort that our current developers go through to provide us "normal" users with kernels and roms for our devices. I wish I had the time and knowledge of the Android system to get into development, to help out.
Just sharing my thoughts and would like to hear others opinion on this, not criticizing or trying to create a issue.

I believe that there is in fact a huge rom development out there. I can see why your frustrated with certain things not being there, but you have to remember how hard it was to crack root on this phone, therefore it is harder to do certain things to it. Where as the galaxy s series is easy as pie to root and hack, along with the evo and older phones. Just mosey on other phone forums and notice the lack of development that they have. There are other great phones, like the evo shift 4G and others that aren't getting love like this phone.
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haha try working with something with a weak following, like a Samsung Transform. All I really see is guys complaining there's no XDA sub-board. There's an SDK but it all sucks especially because I'm used to how wonderful my G2's support is.
There's a decent following for the Vibrant, but zero cyanogen for it, and I doubt there ever will be. I do like my Axura rom, but it makes me sad I can't cyanogen it. Which makes me appreciate cyanogen even more though, because I see that it has sooooo much more than other roms.

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haha try working with something with a weak following, like a Samsung Transform. All I really see is guys complaining there's no XDA sub-board. There's an SDK but it all sucks especially because I'm used to how wonderful my G2's support is.
There's a decent following for the Vibrant, but zero cyanogen for it, and I doubt there ever will be. I do like my Axura rom, but it makes me sad I can't cyanogen it. Which makes me appreciate cyanogen even more though, because I see that it has sooooo much more than other roms.
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I was trying to find the XDA forum for the Moto Cliq for my sister, and realized on doesn't even exist, lol. But I do miss the Vibrant forums a little bit. When I had my Vibrant I ran Nero/Bionix and it was the tits. I am new to CM but having Gingerbread gives me wood, so I'm as happy as a pig in poop with my G2.
Sent from my crack-addicted G2 injected with CM7.

Yep, I tried to help a friend with a Cliq and found that too. He was sooo excited for his 2.1 OTA that was super late from the initial promise date that he was expecting. And I found just about zero following for that thing.
I ran bionix for a bit, and I think overall I prefer the Axura over it, except the newest one doesn't have HD Camcorder as of now

TJBunch1228 said:
I was trying to find the XDA forum for the Moto Cliq for my sister, and realized on doesn't even exist, lol. But I do miss the Vibrant forums a little bit. When I had my Vibrant I ran Nero/Bionix and it was the tits. I am new to CM but having Gingerbread gives me wood, so I'm as happy as a pig in poop with my G2.
Sent from my crack-addicted G2 injected with CM7.
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What up RatDude? Haha, I had a cliq before this phone and got it when it was just released. I rooted that thing since day one flashing all kinds of buggy roms. That's what started it all.They've come a long way. I used modmymobile.com and they have some pretty good development, and some really good roms. The thing doesn't compare to my G2 though!
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yo, lol
wasn't modmymobile originally modmymoto? Before the miracle of android I modded a RAZR, SLVR, and KRZR which also subsidy unlocked... but the aftermarket "rom" on it sucked ass lol. It even included some text messages with some weird lady in the flash. Was like a personal NAND

boost3d23 said:
in certain areas? Things like roms and overclocking kernels our developers are on top of, no question about it
From time to time, I wonder into the other android device's development sections of xda and think what if we had those developments. Take for example the Nexus S, they have a sound patch that improves the sound quality and ext4 optimizations to increase performance in Gingerbread. In the Desire HD development section they have a performance enhanced kernel for CM7. Just a few examples of such developments I see in other sections, that gets me thinking.
Dont get me wrong I appreciate all the hard work and effort that our current developers go through to provide us "normal" users with kernels and roms for our devices. I wish I had the time and knowledge of the Android system to get into development, to help out.
Just sharing my thoughts and would like to hear others opinion on this, not criticizing or trying to create a issue.
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I love development and the Android community. So much choices to satisfy anyone's flavor. Here in the G2/Desire Z forums, I believe there is plenty of development. QUALITY development.
In the G1 forums, when it was still really popular, you would just see the forums flooded with all different kinds of ROMs, from several devs. I tried out tons of them, but none of them, except a handful were well made (Cyanogen, JAC, Haykuro, to name a few). Pretty much all the half assed ones were all basic copies of all the other ones, or rip offs of the good ones. In addition there were only two types: stock and sense.
With our forums, we have so many possibilities. Stock, modified stock, froyo, gingerbread, sense, miui. Our hardware can actually support all this too and run well, unlike on other devices.
It doesn't end at roms. We have kernels, modifications, hacks. Anything to make your phone unique. And may I say, our processor is an overclocking champion. I can load up the 1.8 Ghz kernel and run it all day every day, stable. Now, I don't do it, but it's nice to have the option.
In addition to all of this, our phone is still relatively current. Next gen snapdragon processor, nearly 2 gigs of accessible rom, 512 megs of ram, decent screen, stock froyo. I don't see why the G2 wouldn't receive a 2.3 OTA.
As time progresses, I can see more and more devs pop up to try and take the reigns of development for this forum. It's a matter of when, not if.

theratdude64 said:
yo, lol
wasn't modmymobile originally modmymoto? Before the miracle of android I modded a RAZR, SLVR, and KRZR which also subsidy unlocked... but the aftermarket "rom" on it sucked ass lol. It even included some text messages with some weird lady in the flash. Was like a personal NAND
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Haha, funny. Yup your right it was but they do a lot to the cliq on there. The blurry eclair rom was sweet.
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I don't really feel that way at all. There are the roms that most consider relevant, the sense roms (which has been consolidated into virtuous) and the cyanogenmod team that is so large now that most of the top developers have teamed up. Sure the number of roms are down but the quality is top notch
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I agree to a certain point. If it wasn't for the Devs then this phone wouldn't see anything. There is barely any support from the manufacturers (ie. docks, car docks). They released the G2/Dezire Z then the Nexus S comes out and it's a forgotten phone from their standpoint.

theratdude64 said:
yo, lol
wasn't modmymobile originally modmymoto? Before the miracle of android I modded a RAZR, SLVR, and KRZR which also subsidy unlocked... but the aftermarket "rom" on it sucked ass lol. It even included some text messages with some weird lady in the flash. Was like a personal NAND
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Yeah, modmymoto was the best site around for Moto modding. Good to see an original Moto modder here. I also modded Motorolas, I modded two RAZR V3's . I loved the fact that you could seriouly mod EVERY LITTLE thing; from small stuff like removing the anoying buzz noise when the phone is near a speaker through a seem edit to stuff like changing the housing to all gold, I saw this one guy put a see-through housing on his RAZR V3 wand made his keypad gold and all the sound up and down buttons down or some other bits of gold parts in it. I loved modding Moto's, I remember that I had an iPhone theme with an iPhone icon pack and an iPhone font, I always used the Mulifex way of flashing, I liked that way the most. I loved the fact that I could change my service provider to 'Beast-Mobile' and change the names of the items in the menu, like for example I had my phone book says "my name's Homies" like "KoolKidsKlub's Homies" I wish that I could change stuff like that on an Android phone.

I've modded stuff like this for as long as I can remember XDA rules, lol. I once bricked a Moto Rokr E8, but I think that's about the only thing I've genuinely bricked haha. I always tell people it usually takes talent to brick an android. I just scored a Vibrant because it was "bricked" and I resurrected it.
[email protected] the post that if this phone didn't have Dev's, it wouldn't see anything at all. I haven't seen any docks for it, yet there are dock settings. Yet the phone I do have a dock for has no dock settings