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Replace stock IM with IM+

is there a way to replace the stock IM with IM+?
with the stock IM i can only connect to MSN or Yahoo when iam online with WLAN not over 2G/3G
but with the IM+ iam able to connect to all networks via WLAN/2G/3G
so is there a way to use IM+ as standard IM for the contacts app also?

I was actually just wondering which apk to remove to uninstall the IM app. I don't think it can be done without screwing up Gtalk.

i thinkss its the t-mobile im app included in CM ROMs

uansari1 said:
I was actually just wondering which apk to remove to uninstall the IM app. I don't think it can be done without screwing up Gtalk.
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Yup, it's part of the core framework, just leave it alone.

is there a way to force the conection via 2G/3G (maybe like set 2G/3G as virtual WLAN) ?

back when I first got my G1 I used to use the default IM app on 3g/3g with no problems. But I stopped when I realized that EACH I.M. SENT is billed as a sent sms (I didn't have unlimited txting).
You can use a different IM app as the default. Just go to Application Settings>Manage Applications and find the default IM app and select "clear defaults". Next time you try launching the IM app directly from your contacts you can choose which app to have set as the default.
On a side note, I just tried this and although I have IM+ installed (among 3 or 4 other IM apps)I only had two options to choose: IM or Meebo. So maybe you need to contact IM+ about integrating their app or something?

Actually i would like to know how i can tell IM what the SIM's mobile number is ..
I can not use MSN because it can not read the mobile number
( I only have optus Data on SIM .. The mobile number that is bound to it was provided .. for using with MSN on an mobile phone ..)

MasterCATZ said:
Actually i would like to know how i can tell IM what the SIM's mobile number is ..
I can not use MSN because it can not read the mobile number
( I only have optus Data on SIM .. The mobile number that is bound to it was provided .. for using with MSN on an mobile phone ..)
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thats the same problem i have, cuz T-Mobile blocked IM - but IM+ works fine - i wish i could use IM+ to send messagges via the contacts.apk and not IM

IM application gone?

Did they take this out? I'm not talking about G-Talk. The IM app that has YM, AIM, and MSN. I can't find it in the Launcher

The IM app from the other phones charged against text messages to send/receive. So I say good riddance. Besides, there's plenty of much better apps that handle those services in the marketplace.

i believe it uses data not sms. Otherwise I would rack up 10,000+ sms a month
but what's a good IM client out there then besides the one HTC provides?

snofrandy said:
i believe it uses data not sms. Otherwise I would rack up 10,000+ sms a month
but what's a good IM client out there then besides the one HTC provides?
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The G1 documentation made it very clear that only GTalk worked over data and that other IM clients used SMS.
I think the real reason you don't see it, is that this is not a T-Mobile phone (who provided that app), but it is actually closer to an AOSP type of build. The carrier adds their own applications and the carrier didn't design it.

Hmm...my previous phones were the G1 and MT3G. that's true. there is not T-Mo branding anywhere so it makes sense that the IM client is T-Mo's app, and they probably do something to tweak the plan to exclude SMS from the IM client...otherwise they would have pages of statements.
But in any case, what's a good IM client from the market?

snofrandy said:
But in any case, what's a good IM client from the market?
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Palringo, eBuddy, Ninbuzz, Meebo
Just wish they had BeeJive for Android!

Nimbuzz

Just installed this, cant believe how nice it looks!
But yeah theres an option now to start and sign in when the phone does, which is appealing because it would be similar to blackberry messenger.
But would this cause a serious drain on battery? Surely its no different to having GTalk running?

nimbuzz does not have push notification like GTalk or the nimbuzz on the iphone so it will drain your battery like mad because its constant connection to stay logged in.
the closes thing to bbm is gtalk atm. or whatsapp when they release it on the android

that sucks, no one I know uses gtalk lol. is whatsapp being released on Android?
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

ragmanchu said:
the closes thing to bbm is gtalk atm. or whatsapp when they release it on the android
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Has this development been confirmed?

http://www.whatsapp.com/
WhatsApp will soon be available on two other popular mobile platforms: Android and Nokia Symbian. Follow us on twitter for updates.
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i've been using nimbuzz for my skype account, but always interested to see/try out other clients

Pyr0x64 said:
http://www.whatsapp.com/
i've been using nimbuzz for my skype account, but always interested to see/try out other clients
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Hows your battery life when using nimbuzz?
Whatsapp should be released soon but i dont see why people are paying for this app when GTalk does the same if not more and its FREE?
Ask your friends to install GTalk on their devices for now, they might like it =)

Because "WhatsApp" does not need special username or PIN.
You only need your phone number (in international forward) and that's it!
Very nice indeed, but when for Android????
ragmanchu said:
Hows your battery life when using nimbuzz?
Whatsapp should be released soon but i dont see why people are paying for this app when GTalk does the same if not more and its FREE?
Ask your friends to install GTalk on their devices for now, they might like it =)
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ragmanchu said:
Hows your battery life when using nimbuzz?
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i couldn't really say tbh. my battery life is generally bad anyway *shrug*
having to charge it every day at the moment, probably cos i'm always playing ith it tho.

yeah that's the problem no ones got gtalk lol
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When you install Nimbuzz, does it ALWAYS connected ?
Is it possible to run it on-demand?
Because I might interested in using it as "Skype" client ONLY. And use it when I want to use Skype-call feature.

gogol said:
When you install Nimbuzz, does it ALWAYS connected ?
Is it possible to run it on-demand?
Because I might interested in using it as "Skype" client ONLY. And use it when I want to use Skype-call feature.
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nimbuzz is always connected and it does not support push notification.
i installed it to use skype but it doesnt support group chat so its a bit useless for me.
But generally skype does not support push notification, not even on there own official apps

Is it possible to turn the connection OFF ?
And only use it just to use Skype for calling (international) land-lines for example?
ragmanchu said:
nimbuzz is always connected and it does not support push notification.
i installed it to use skype but it doesnt support group chat so its a bit useless for me.
But generally skype does not support push notification, not even on there own official apps
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gogol said:
Is it possible to turn the connection OFF ?
And only use it just to use Skype for calling (international) land-lines for example?
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You can sign out which turns the connection off.
so you can sign in when you need to use skype and sign out when your finished

Does anybody see their own picture in conversation? I have in my account, but I /and frieds don`t see it.

I tried Nimbuzz today, but unfortunately I cannot use it to use my Skype account to call (non-skype) landlines / mobile phones
I know, for this feature I need full featured Skype client, correct? And it does not exist on Android !
Nimbuzz has been uninstalled ...

Do you have your mobile number associated with skype in order to send sms and call? I have and have no problems calling mobile numbers from Nimbuzz. I takes credit from my skype account.

Yes, I finally figured it out how to get that ...
BUT ... it is really buggy ...
It only worked for the FIRST TIME ... showing that saved number.
When I modified or added some more in the Skype PC application, logout Skype.
They dont appear on the Nimbuzz.
I tried to login-logout Nimbuzz ... it does not work.
I tried to remove Skype account and added again ... it does not work
I tried to uninsall Nimbuzz and reinstall ... it does not work
I tried to uninstall Nimbuzz, reboot phone, reinstall ... it does not work
Whatever I tried in Android phone with Nimbuzz, it did not "sync" (or update) the Skype saved numbers.
So, yeah, frustrated with this kind of quality of the Nimbuzz for Android.
Does it work on yours? The add/update Skype saved numbers ...
JaykaySLO said:
Do you have your mobile number associated with skype in order to send sms and call? I have and have no problems calling mobile numbers from Nimbuzz. I takes credit from my skype account.
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no, removing the account did not refresh contacts

Yupe, and there is NO WAY to refresh either
So, I guess I have to wait another update ... (if there will be any!).
Anyway, I tested to call using SkypeOut and the call quality is not that good, there was some delays at the other end (long distance international call).
But, certainly it is better than Fring.
JaykaySLO said:
no, removing the account did not refresh contacts
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[Q] Most common universal IM client?

Used to love Palringo for WinMo but with Android, there are TONs.. have heard Meebo is pretty good, what do you all use?
primarily interested in: MSN, Yahoo, GChat, Facebook

I came from a blackberry where bbm ran the show, not I use gtalk. Makes it easy for me since I can monitor email and talk on my pc while at work.
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but can you add contacts from other services like msn and such?

I use eBuddy. Great program. Its free in the market

I use nimbuz also free in the market. Good app i cant send files and even do a voice chat on YM.
Sent from my DROIDX

I like Trillian, it's not free though [$4.99]

Yeah, I am not against paying for one.. I instant message quite a bit, for personal and for work. What I really liked about my old MSN IM client for my last WinMo phone (TP2) was that you could send voice clips as messages. Palringo did the same thing except the audio clips came through as 3rd party links which was kind of a nuisance.
Anyone else?

zanix said:
I like Trillian, it's not free though [$4.99]
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+1, caught it when they were giving out the free beta and free updates, i love it besides everyone should know it can be found on the internet fringe somewhere floating around for the taking lol

I used newborn for a while, then switched to ebuddy. More relyable

BBM, iMessage... what are the chances?

so since apple released whatever 'iMessage' for all apple products and its exclusive and what not, and all blackberry devices have BBM, how much do you gander android will release its own form of IM within the coming months before the release of icecream sandwich?
revamp of G-Talk... maybe? LOL that thing seriously need a big overhaul anyway.
a penny for your thoughts?

I personally like the idea of GTalk how it is now. They could just make sure its installed on every phone and maybe even put it on the first screen.
I like having it cross-platform and even available on the desktop.
Most of my friends have Android now, so more and more people are moving to GTalk.
I wish they would come out with a better desktop client though that'll do video rather than relying on the web one.
I think GTalk should be a feature they advertise more. Its already available on every Android phone, uses push for 2.2+ and works really well.

It would be cool
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.

ethridgt said:
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
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The nice thing is that it uses Jabber, so there's lots of clients out there that will support it...all with their own feature sets. So its easily cross-platform, just not always the official app.

I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.

The biggest problem with Google talk is its currently not widely available on every android phone.

Google doesn't need to revamp gtalk. It just needs to make Disco the default messaging program like Apple has done with iMessage. It would need to add MMS and remove the requirement for creating groups before sending messages but I can't imaging either would be too difficult to do before ICS is released.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/23/google-disco-2/

Been wishing this was in gtalk since 1.6. I dont think they need to combine it with the SMS app if they keep the green circle next the contacts name when they are signed on in Gtalk.
If they updated the BB and IOS apps to work with the new Gtalk apps it could dominate. But like google maps with navigation, they reserve group chats and video chatting to the web client and android users.

http://www.cultofmac.com/androids-going-to-help-apples-imessage-kill-off-sms/99831

PrawnPoBoy said:
I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.

VicToR_AC said:
+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.

FaithCry said:
why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
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Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!

VicToR_AC said:
Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
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Fair enough...but then are you telling me they aren't downloading any apps from the market then? And thus not optimizing the android system already? Because if they can access the market they should be able to use g chat ...
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For it to work, any message system has to integrate with the default messaging app. Otherwise, it will be a failure. Apple did get iMessage right by integrating it with the sms app and make using it automatic (without any user input to setup).

^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?

Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.

NexusDro said:
^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.

moelester518 said:
Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?

bozzykid said:
Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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But what if I switch between iphones and other phones all the time?
J.L.C. said:
Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.

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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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Yep, you can. But the contact list isn't an sms app