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Does anyone know who makes the default "Email" named client that ships with the Vibrant? Is that a Samsung app, Google app, or other? I ask because it seems to be *dog slow* doing even the simplest of things -- opening a message, refreshing, deleting, etc.. Has everyone else noticed this? Any fixes? In contrast, the built-in Gmail app is super-speedy.
On that note, is there a better Exchange-enabled client that I can install on this phone? Can the Android 2.1 client be ported to this phone? I need Exchange (mail, calendar, contacts) sync support. Also, I don't want to use Touchdown.
Thoughts?
Yip
I had exchange before I moved to google apps for business. Exchange push worked flawless.
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Touchdown.
Yep, I saw that you said you didn't want to use it.
Touchdown's still my recommendation.
I have no problems getting exchange email in a timely manner via the default client...
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It's not that I *can't* get my Exchange email -- the syncing appears to be working fine. The issue is the client itself: very slow and laggy. The Gmail client, by comparison, is fast and responsive.
Are others seeing the "Email" app slowness as well?
Lastly, does anyone know who makes the included Email app? Google? Samsung?
the default exchange client in the nexus had zero lag.
yipcanjo said:
It's not that I *can't* get my Exchange email -- the syncing appears to be working fine. The issue is the client itself: very slow and laggy.
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It also can't display HTML messages, doesn't highlight complicated URLs correctly (ones with & or = symbols), and has no copy & paste. At least, not from what I can tell.
Yogi
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Can we install the apk from the nexus on the vibrant?
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I have not had a problem with the default email program. It has been fast and syncs all my email that I want it to. I did increase the size of the mail since our work uses a jpeg as a sig.
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Can we install the apk from the nexus on the vibrant?
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I second this. Anyway to grab the Nexus One mail client and install onto the Vibrant?
Have you tried K-9 mail?
I hate the default email app. Tried touchdown but it is not great. I switched to Google apps for business and migrated from my exchange server and I'm much happier all around.
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I agree. I just moved my exchange to google apps for business too.
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Yes, Google Apps is a fine solution, and I'm using that for my *personal* email, but my work uses Exchange 2007.
Anyhow, I'm trying out K9 Mail and MailDroid, though I can't get either of them to connect just yet. I'll keep trying.
Otherwise, this really looks like a "wait until Froyo" situation, since the initial 2.1 solution didn't support Exchange calendar syncing. Version 2.2 should have what we need.
Hurry up and wait
K-9 is much better, although it randomly goes for long amounts of time without getting some email, even though I can get them on my computer.
If it's mission criticle to get your emails on time, it's not very reliable, unfortunately (neither is the stck client).
WHOA! Hold the phone (no pun intended)...
I was looking at the "stalling" issues threads, and came across this *FIX* (Method 1) that was pretty easy to do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727279
Assuming that you're rooted, just install Busybox and Terminal Emulator (from the Marketplace). Alternately, you can use ADB from your computer, though I've never been able to get this to work. I was able to complete these commands directly on my phone from the emulator and reboot.
Anyhow, after applying this change, the default mail app is ABSOLUTELY FLYING. I kid you not. Just as fast as the Gmail client, if not somewhat faster. Really amazing. To be honest, the entire phone is much, much faster all around -- not just this mail client.
The downside? Well... technically the "app data space" is limited after this update, but I was only using 28megs (of 130megs total). Not too concerned. On that note, they give you the command to check your app data space, if you're wondering.
So....I am absolutely good for now. Happy with the mail clients and their performance.
Awesome!
Thanks for your help, everyone.
Yip
The e-mail app in Android 2.2 is pretty great, I was running it on my G1 before I switched up to a Vibrant last week.
The e-mail clients from Google (before 2.2) were/are dismal, but I'm pretty sure they hired Marc Blanc, the guy who wrote the excellent ChatterMail client for the Palm Treo, who then went on to begin developing AndroidMail in 2009. I was a beta tester for AndroidMail, and in the middle of the beta he announced Google was soliciting his input about some sort of secret project. There was never another AndroidMail update after that, much to my dismay.
Then about eight months later I got my hands on the Froyo e-mail client in CyanogenMod6, and I had this nagging feeling I'd seen it somewhere before. Eventually I realized it looks like a super-polished version of what Marc was doing in ChatterMail and AndroidMail.
This is huge for me, because the problems in earlier Android e-mail apps were becoming a serious problem.
So my recommendation would be to sit tight, 2.2 is just around the corner...
For what it's worth, I don't see any slow down or lag with the Exchange client. It is just as responsive as the GMail client and everything else on the phone.
Flak_Munky said:
For what it's worth, I don't see any slow down or lag with the Exchange client. It is just as responsive as the GMail client and everything else on the phone.
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Glad to hear it... but clearly I am *NOT ALONE* on this issue: there was some serious lag going on specifically with the default mail client. To the point that I really tried to avoid checking the email in that client at all, if I could avoid it. It was really, really slow....and the Gmail app was snappy & fast.
Anyhow, the "fix" I posted has totally resolved that issue, as well as speeding up a number of other apps/functions. Really amazing!
Out of curiosity, did you ever apply a "factory reset" that many folks seem to recommend? I never did.
Nope. No factory resets. No lag fixes. No GPS fixes. Only thing I have done is root and install Clockwork. Everything has been working great for me since day one. Guess I got lucky.
Hi guys,
I'd like to hear from you about your impressions and preferences.
Months ago I switched from eBuddy to Imo.im cause of massive battery drain in the 1st. Imo was massively better.
In your opinion, has eBuddy improved in the last few months ?
Does it reconnect aggressively and reliably when connection gets lost and/or acounts get accessed from a pc ?
I'm particularly interested in gtalk, (eventually skype) and facebook protocols effectiveness.
Thank you all !
It's been a while since I used eBuddy. I only have WLM contacts and I always use MSN Talk. It's by far the best MSN type client I've tried. I use the free version, but there's a paid version as well.
i'm using beejive and it's using Google Push, so the battery will not drain eventhough i on it everyday and night.
I prefer IMO.IM as it doesn't need that extra log in account, like in eBuddy.
IMO.IM is easy, fast, simple ... but it doesn't have groups (based on IM account, apart from Skype), and the Chat History is nowhere to be found although there's an option in Preferences to turn it on.
Do you see history anywhere??
i tried imo but i have problems with logging in and out.
i wasn't visible for people but imo showed me i was logged in.
now i use Trillian and it works fine.
ok it's not free but works perfect for me..
Too bad they dont mention which accounts it supports. Need to look it up later on.
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History is save in the IMO server. If you login in, then you can see it..
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Ahh, on server ... pretty useless ... I dont see any history on imo on Android anyways.
Still, I love that messneger. But still have doubts whether to use the build in Gtalk or IMO. Same with FB chat.
But good for Y!, MSN, AIM.
+1 on Trillian. Great app, and goes perfectly hand-in-hand with the PC & web clients!
First used ICQ for Android. This was bad. For a long time i use Meebo IM, which i can recommend. I did not try eBuddy&Co, but Meebo does not give me a reason to do this. IMHO the disadvantage, one cannot transfer files, is not that important.
I also use Meebo with Skype, quite nice
Used to love Palringo for WinMo but with Android, there are TONs.. have heard Meebo is pretty good, what do you all use?
primarily interested in: MSN, Yahoo, GChat, Facebook
I came from a blackberry where bbm ran the show, not I use gtalk. Makes it easy for me since I can monitor email and talk on my pc while at work.
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but can you add contacts from other services like msn and such?
I use eBuddy. Great program. Its free in the market
I use nimbuz also free in the market. Good app i cant send files and even do a voice chat on YM.
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I like Trillian, it's not free though [$4.99]
Yeah, I am not against paying for one.. I instant message quite a bit, for personal and for work. What I really liked about my old MSN IM client for my last WinMo phone (TP2) was that you could send voice clips as messages. Palringo did the same thing except the audio clips came through as 3rd party links which was kind of a nuisance.
Anyone else?
zanix said:
I like Trillian, it's not free though [$4.99]
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+1, caught it when they were giving out the free beta and free updates, i love it besides everyone should know it can be found on the internet fringe somewhere floating around for the taking lol
I used newborn for a while, then switched to ebuddy. More relyable
Just found that IM is actually quite useful....anyone recommend me the best app for the job ??
(need to cover both Gtalk and MSN, yahoo etc)
which is the best ?
I actually like Trillian. Sure, it's $5 (used to be a free Beta), but it's got a boatload of features, is quick, clean, and integrates perfectly with Trillian for Windows. I can be using it in bed/on the sofa, then go to my PC and the conversation I've just been having is there ready to pick up and carry on, and vice-versa.
Use EBuddy, works great and it's free.
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Thanks chaps
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Use EBuddy, works great and it's free.
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I second this.
TheRedDrake said:
Use EBuddy, works great and it's free.
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I use this one too, but I really dislike the fact, that it changes my quick message, and adds "on my mobile with ebuddy messenger"...
Anyone knows how to remove this?
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I actually like Trillian. Sure, it's $5 (used to be a free Beta), but it's got a boatload of features, is quick, clean, and integrates perfectly with Trillian for Windows. I can be using it in bed/on the sofa, then go to my PC and the conversation I've just been having is there ready to pick up and carry on, and vice-versa.
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tried Trillian
Liked the look of it but had issues with it not letting me log into Yahoo, i could set my account ok but it would only connect for a micro second then diconnect, msn and google worked well tho.
shame
using Meebo at the moment as an alternative.
Also didnt like Nimbuzz much either
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I use this one too, but I really dislike the fact, that it changes my quick message, and adds "on my mobile with ebuddy messenger"...
Anyone knows how to remove this?
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If you use Facebook chat it posts "on my mobile with ebuddy messenger" as your Facebook status without your permission. That's the one annoying reason why I stopped using it and switched to nimbuzz!
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It depends on what you're after I guess in a client. I have Meebo IM, MSN talk and eBuddy.
Meebo IM and eBuddy have more client support. But as an MSN client alone, MSN talk is very hard to beat in my opinion.
Try IM+ and IMO.
After I tried all, they have proven to be most reliable and stable.
And have support for all IM services.
Peace
Mercury MSN Messenger is the BEST for MSN.
- MSN Features:
File transfer
Voice clips
Group chat
Invisible signin
Multiple MSN accounts
Logging to sdcard
Offline messaging
Show current song (MSN Now playing)
Improved Launcher (Widget)
Fling (or swipe) between contact lists and conversations
Events notification (message received, contact signed in)
Notifications: status bar, vibrate, audio, led
Chat with your MSN and Yahoo contacts
- Other Features:
Multiple languages
Start on phone boot
Very stable and regular updates
I'm using Ebuddy because it integrates all Chat Clients (FB, MSN, Yahoo, etc.), got a good UI. Had no problem yet regarding to facebook posts like "online with ebuddy", did never posted it. Only drawback I would say is that you cannot send files (corrent me if I am wrong), for instance you cannot take a picture while you are in the chat window and send it. Nimbuzz could do it (used it before), but its quite big (5mb).
so since apple released whatever 'iMessage' for all apple products and its exclusive and what not, and all blackberry devices have BBM, how much do you gander android will release its own form of IM within the coming months before the release of icecream sandwich?
revamp of G-Talk... maybe? LOL that thing seriously need a big overhaul anyway.
a penny for your thoughts?
I personally like the idea of GTalk how it is now. They could just make sure its installed on every phone and maybe even put it on the first screen.
I like having it cross-platform and even available on the desktop.
Most of my friends have Android now, so more and more people are moving to GTalk.
I wish they would come out with a better desktop client though that'll do video rather than relying on the web one.
I think GTalk should be a feature they advertise more. Its already available on every Android phone, uses push for 2.2+ and works really well.
It would be cool
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
ethridgt said:
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
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The nice thing is that it uses Jabber, so there's lots of clients out there that will support it...all with their own feature sets. So its easily cross-platform, just not always the official app.
I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
The biggest problem with Google talk is its currently not widely available on every android phone.
Google doesn't need to revamp gtalk. It just needs to make Disco the default messaging program like Apple has done with iMessage. It would need to add MMS and remove the requirement for creating groups before sending messages but I can't imaging either would be too difficult to do before ICS is released.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/23/google-disco-2/
Been wishing this was in gtalk since 1.6. I dont think they need to combine it with the SMS app if they keep the green circle next the contacts name when they are signed on in Gtalk.
If they updated the BB and IOS apps to work with the new Gtalk apps it could dominate. But like google maps with navigation, they reserve group chats and video chatting to the web client and android users.
http://www.cultofmac.com/androids-going-to-help-apples-imessage-kill-off-sms/99831
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I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
FaithCry said:
why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
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Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
VicToR_AC said:
Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
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Fair enough...but then are you telling me they aren't downloading any apps from the market then? And thus not optimizing the android system already? Because if they can access the market they should be able to use g chat ...
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For it to work, any message system has to integrate with the default messaging app. Otherwise, it will be a failure. Apple did get iMessage right by integrating it with the sms app and make using it automatic (without any user input to setup).
^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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But what if I switch between iphones and other phones all the time?
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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Yep, you can. But the contact list isn't an sms app