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Unlock Slider & Apex

I installed apeX last week and am amazed at how much better it is than stock. Everything is so much better....faster bootup, better battery life, faster ROM navigation, the list goes on.
The only issue I am having is the slider is still pretty jittery.
The LockBot app has a super smooth slider but would prefer to just use the apeX one if I can smooth it out.
Anyone else notice this or have a solution?

I don't think you can make it any smoother. I removed my lock screen altogether. I've found that build.prop mods are very crucial for non jittery performance on all ROMs I've run. Oh, and the jittery slide seems to just plague the X. Even my fiance's Ally has smooth lock sliders... go figure.

I too have apex 1.4.1 and love it. I use widget locker for my lock screen and use one of their custom sliders, the iphone esque to be exact. It is smooth as can be and works 100% of the time with no FC's.
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Venting: Why is the homescreen so laggy?

This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?

i dunno mayne its the snap to grid that causes it because flipping back and forth from pane to pane is smooth.

Coming from the transformer, this was the first thing i actually noticed. One thing that would help is to change the default wallpaper to one of your own. It actually improves it significantly
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I have a Xoom on 3.2 and the home screen is really smooth. I have looked at many Touchwiz videos on Youtube and it seems very laggy compared to my Xoom. But i guess i will soon see it in person, just ordered a GT10.1 3G.

Only reason that your tab or phone are laggy on homescreen is due to either wallpaper or widget,
To fix it get wallpaper wizardrii and set to no scroll.
In regards to the icons well notice that you have additional few more effects when you tap and hold icons, there is stransparency, grid etc. If you want to move icons from app dock to homescreen it shows both at the same time, and homescreen is active not paused.
Ios will never be able to do this there is just to much
At the moment my tab is acting really weird.
My wallpaper is scrolling although it should not, screen is absolutely jitter free all that happened since I've activated kies via wifi and deselected usb debugging (needed it to install drivers)
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Can't say mine is laggy at all but I'm not using the stock launcher. The latest "UEKMB" slim Launcher2 with enabled hw acceleration and Multipicture LWP looks and feels extremely smooth. I have no comparison to another Honeycomb Tablet but I can't really see it getting noticeable "smoother".

cryptyk said:
This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?
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I have the same problem.... Before the Touchwiz update my homescreen was very laggy, after the update it became less lagy but you can still feel it when scrolling which, I gotta tell you is the most annoying thing... IS there any way to make my homescreen smoother? I've tried wallpaper wizardrii which helped but after awhile the wallpaper cuts in half... I have no more than 5 widgets on my Tab and i'm still amazed on how bad the screen lag is.... I

I'm using ADW Launcher EX, and the screen is super smooth/responsive. The latest version has a high-density option, so we still get the big icons. It's $2 or $3 but it's worth it, and the other thing is to disable the scrolling desktop.
Give it a try. I'm not sure why the stock launcher is so choppy, but they could learn something from the folks who made ADW.
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Side note: My current ROM/Kernal is completely stock. No root, no OC, and ADW is still silky smooth. BUT... it was even smoother when I was running my Tab at 1400 with AutoKiller.

Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I see the lag on my Tab that is described by the OP.
However, I do NOT see it on my HTC Thunderbolt phone running Go Launcher EX.

Arun01 said:
Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I just finished installing ADW launcher ex and its A LOT smoother than stock, the transition from landscape to portrait view is still a bit droggy but that's probably because of the widgets. I'm loving the new look ADW gave my tablet.

I too was very frustrated with the homescreen lag on my 10.1. I installed ADW Launcher EX and it has been super smooth and givees you some neat options for homescreen transition effects too. Give it a try.

do a search.
Its because Google has little to no interest in fixing the UI/gpu/hw acceleration issues.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it. Its a fundamental issue with Android that has been ignored and no intention of real fix.

xManMythLegend said:
do a search.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it.
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Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.

cryptyk said:
Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Who made the stock launcher?... Google...
It is well known that Google cuts corners in relation to standardization and hardware acceleration. Instead the focus on incrementally updating release numbers instead.
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cryptyk said:
Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Lag and framerate drops happen across the ui not just the launcher. It is an Android problem not anything device specific.

I have a standard (scrolling, but not live) wallpaper, 5 widgets and maybe 30 shortcut icons on my desktop/homescreen. Scrolling from one to another is silky smooth (3.1 TW). On one occasion it was quite laggy, it seemed like it had gone from hw accel'd to software for no obvious reason.... Quick reboot fixed it, though.
While it's probably true some performace issues lie with google, I'd wager most problems lie with users and developers doing things badly (or trying to do too much).

I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.

tghockey07 said:
I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.
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THIS. Widgets. Remove them.
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Admit you have no real friends.
Remove the social widget.
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PROFIT!

Mine varies from ROM to ROM. I actually get the smoothest experience on stock 3.1 no TW.

A lot of Lag

I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.

viniturb0 said:
I got this phone yesterday and I must say it looks gorgeous. I set It up adding my emails, widgets etc and then experienced a lot of lag while scrolling on the social hub widget, even the Internet browser takes ages to load and struggles while scrolling.
I'm really unhappy now as my gs2 didn't face such an issue and i was expecting this to be smoother considering it has a faster processor.
I don't want to root this phone for security reasons.
Is anyone experiencing this issue and is there a solution?
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you.
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I notice the lag as well. Opening and closing apps that normally just pop.

I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too

vinokirk said:
I have noticed no lag whatsoever. Im using ADW Ex too
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I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.

andyiacovou said:
I am also using ADW Ex and am experiencing some lag when switching between screens etc.
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What widgets are you using?
I have about 15 icons, weather widget and digital clock wiget on one screen and nothing on any of the other screens.

Hmmm that might be the problem. I'm using widgets on every screen. I've gone a bit widget bonkers! Having said that I had the same widgets on the Galaxy S2 and didn't suffer lag issues.
I have rooted and am waiting for some decent ROMS to appear, I'm sure that will fix???
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Hi
Hi friends.
I also notice lag and Im using the stock launcher and with almost no widgets.
Apart from the screen issues that one will notice if he uses the devise for reading.
I had the SGS2 before and the difference is noticable.
Such a pitty for such a promising devise.

I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.

lumbard said:
I changed screen density and only use one screen with go launcher set to have 7x7 grid size. I have 2 widgets, Weather and BBC News, I use upward swipe to open app drawer and not noticed lag at all when in use but I do get around a 1/2 to 1 second delay when pressing power or home to wake the device. Not the end of the world but would be cool if it was instant like the S2.
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It's the same on my Samsung Galaxy S2 and it's never changed so I wouldn't worry about it.
There were some threads on the SGS2 forum about ideas on how to fix it if I remember rightly.

I love my note but i would have to agree that SG2 is faster compare to note . ( that make ppl feel like the note is laggy as they have used SG2 before )

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thank God the device is super fast....there is no lag at all.....just hard-reset the device and enjoy it

Launcher Pro is much smoother on my Note than ADW...

ADW EX is lightning fast with density hack at 240, all the others lagged.
Obviously mine is rooted. Also using Roboto font.

I have lag
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.

chris Ga said:
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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Yeah I agree, I don't understand the lag with such a powerful device. I suppose it is possible that Samsung has used cheaper, slower dram in this phone. Even the Plus animation when the phone boots micro-stutters. Of well, hopefully in a month we can get our hands on the Nexus.

chris Ga said:
I am comparing when zooming out all the home screens and then selecting one. The animation is faster and smoother on a HTC 4G. ALSO, sometimes when waking the phone the screen will flash the unlocked screen for a second before the lock screen appears ie see your messages app then you see the lockscreen and have to unlock the phone. I just reset the phone thinking this would help but it didn't. Coming from the iphone I am sad that everything isn't backs up like the iphone without rooting. This lag is more picky than a problem. I don't understated lag when the phone is so powerful.
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That's the nature of Android, because so many manufacturers can use it, developers need to program apps for all of them in mind and seeing they all have the potential to utilise different hardware you can't expect a developer to be able to foresee these things.
What we need to do is just put a request to the developers and ask if they can make it compatible with the Notes graphics card/drivers making it lag free.
This is exactly why virtually all native Samsung apps run fantastic, because their devs know the hardware and drivers hence know how to get full potential.
What would fix this is every time Google releases a version like ICS they should state exactly which hardware will be ALLOWED to run on this platform. But then you lose the openness.
It's a double edged sword, you have to take the good with the bad..
This is unfortunately where apple shines with the iphone because they make the OS and the device. If they just loosened up on their OS a little then we wouldn't be talking here
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The Note will ONLY get better with each update/support from either Samsung or our beloved developers.. And that's a one way direction.. O)nly better..

Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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qazzi76 said:
Guys the reason for the lag is the constant downclocking of the cpu to 800 or 500mhz as well as unnecessary services apps running in the background. I believe it can be optimised..
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Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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daoutlawz said:
Not really, mines rooted and have uninstalled all uneeded apps. Although adw doesn't lag anymore, other apps do like Facebook and even ES file explorer.
There is a dedicated gpu which isnt utilised for most of the apps which lag, this is the problem at hand.
The iphones been running a sub 1ghz cpu and less than 1gb of ram for long before android adopted them, but doesnt share the same issues.
But as stated it can only get better from here.
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Agreed in some respects...
Have you installed AnTuTu CPU master?
I have noticed that when the CPU is operating at 800mhz everything lags.
When I force the CPU to 1400mhz using AnTuTu the lag is present for the first homescreen swipe in ADW EX (DPI 260) then it's smooth as butter.
I have also observed this behaviour in launcher pro.
A guy on here recommended using BetterBatteryStats to possibly locate the apps/background services that are unnecessary hogging the CPU.
Fully agreed on the Iphone performance - but that is clearly due to software strictly tailored for hardware.
Android requires brute force due to software required to work on multiple devices
Gotta say tho my Galaxy Tab 7 (First Gen) with overcome is way faster in general operation than the Note... Until I force the processor to stay at 1400mhz - then it just flies.
Clearly the Note has a lot of potential.

The recent apps/multi-tasking menu is sluggish/choppy/slow and it's annoying.

I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus. I loved that phone...I mean it was borderline weird how much I loved that phone. lol Anyway, I like this phone more. It's blazing fast, the hardware is better in every regard...it's just awesome. Which is why I find it incredibly annoying how sluggish the recent apps menu is. It's sluggish when it comes up and the screen fades, and swiping apps off the menu bar is just sort of sluggish and not fluid like it was on the Nexus.
I've tried it on my friends Int version and on my AT&T version, it performs the same on both. I'm curios if anyone else coming from a Nexus notices this?
I don't know why it bugs me so much (first world problems) but it really just seems like it should be fluid considering how much faster this phone is that my GN (on ICS, sold it before JB)
I actually just remove all apps when I use it just so they vanish fast and I don't have to witness the slow animation of swiping apps off the screen. Unlike my GN it does seem to swipe the apps off faster based on how fast I use my finger, but it still doesn't have the fluidity that my previous precious had.
Just ranting, chime in if you want.

I think is much because of the hold Down on the home button if you run aokp and add the nav bar is faster, also make sure you turn off s Voice double click
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Thanks, yeah I disabled S-Voice.

Actually not related to the home button as it does the same thing using nova launcher recent apps short cut
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I guess this isn't a common complaint for most of you.

Maybe it's me, but mine seems good. Def not as fluid as my buds Jb Gnex but fluid enough.
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its fine for me. could it be smoother? sure. not worst wasting my keystrokes on making a post about it. itll get better with custom roms ESPECIALLY JB roms

Nova Launcher - Not So Hot on N7...

I am a HUGE fan of Nova Prime on my GNex. I've tried every launcher out their and I love Nova Prime.
So why does it suck for me on my N7?
Here's what I see:
- Jittery homescreen scrolling
- When set to infinite home screen scrolling, the wallpaper "resets" itself when you cross over the last screen/first screen transition
- In landscape mode, widgets run off the top of the screen
- Really laggy response when touching icons - sometimes the icon never recognizes that it's being selected
- Trying to grab an icon an moving it to the "X" to delete it registers as an up-swipe (related to the point above)
The stock launcher totally smokes Nova Prime, for me. Never thought I'd ever say that! Stock is buttery smooth, no jitters and none of the other issues.
Anyone else see this on their N7? Any suggestions as to how to overcome the jitters/lag? I'd love to love Nova Prime on the N7!

billykxda said:
I am a HUGE fan of Nova Prime on my GNex. I've tried every launcher out their and I love Nova Prime.
So why does it suck for me on my N7?
Here's what I see:
- Jittery homescreen scrolling
- When set to infinite home screen scrolling, the wallpaper "resets" itself when you cross over the last screen/first screen transition
- In landscape mode, widgets run off the top of the screen
- Really laggy response when touching icons - sometimes the icon never recognizes that it's being selected
- Trying to grab an icon an moving it to the "X" to delete it registers as an up-swipe (related to the point above)
The stock launcher totally smokes Nova Prime, for me. Never thought I'd ever say that! Stock is buttery smooth, no jitters and none of the other issues.
Anyone else see this on their N7? Any suggestions as to how to overcome the jitters/lag? I'd love to love Nova Prime on the N7!
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I dont have any of those issues. Works great.
What ROM are you using?

I actually agree with you... Nova just feels.... Clunky... I installed apex last night and it works great
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Working perfect for me. I use it on my S3 as well. I will agree that the stock launcher is really good too. I used it a few days before installing Nova.
Rooted with stock ROM.
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I am running totally stock, unrooted. I thought I might try again with the " aggressive" settings where everything is cached. Maybe that would fix it.
I previously ran Apex on my Gnex for a long time. I might give that a go as well.

Nova is sweet on my N7 stock. Runs super smooth and fast.
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Runs OK for me. Not as good as on my phone, but relatively OK. I'd still prefer TSF, but latest versions is buggy with widgets, since they introduced feature that native widgets can be placed anywhere (w/o the grid), the scroll in widgets is really slow. So I said I'd use Nova, since that is what I use on the phone but the truth is it's not as good for tablet. As I said, it works, but I'm not impressed.

I have none of those issues with nova. Neither on my sensation nor on my nexus 7.

Well, running the "aggressive"setting in Nova Prime did nothing.
I tried Apex Pro, and it also stutters, lags a bit.
The stock launcher totally smokes both of these 3rd party launchers - and I've been a Nova and Apex dude forever on my GNex.
Having the opportunity to do a/b comparisons between Nova and stock, Apex and stock back-to-back really highlight the differences, and the advantages of stock, for me at least. Otherwise, there's a chance that Nova/Apex might just look "ok" to me. Stock launcher is super fast, super smooth. My old go-to launchers just don't cut it.