Sorry if the answer is obvious but I could nt find a definitive answer anywhere.
So is full flash experience with adobe 10.1 possible on HTC HERO. I have Darchdroid 2.8 running on mine.
thx
guys... theres like 15 other threads asking the same thing, and multiple posts within rom threads..
If you want flash in any kinda way (lite) you need to be running a sense_ui rom
For example both zenheroFX and zenEXP have flash.
Darchdroid, aosp and cm roms will not be able to run it.
Thanks for pointing that out. Really liked DD2.8 otherwise.
what are you guys doing that makes you want/need flash on a phone with a tiny screen? I really am curious, I cannot think of anything that I would want to do on a phone that requires flash. Are you trying to play face book flash games or something? Hulu could maybe be a use, but flash video barely works on an Atom running anything but windows, so it sure as hell isn't going to work on an ARM running android...
I am interested in some news websites that show live feed of tv channel. went to sprint's store and evo played it really well.
so flash video.... the evo is a much faster phone, also htc put a lot of effort into the version of flash that's on there.
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I am interested in some news websites that show live feed of tv channel. went to sprint's store and evo played it really well.
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I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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There are a lot of opinions about this subject. There are some real pro's to CM6. The tricky thing for most people to understand is that Cyanogenmod is built from the ground up. So when you say you want something that isn't too different, this is going to probably be more unique than you were expecting.
Some great things about CM6 are hidden all throughout the settings, menus, and functions. For example, CM6 is alot cleaner. There aren't any processes that run in the background that you never installed. Whenever you use a stock rom, HTC and Sprint have a number of pre-installed items running. The result is that it is faster.
One huge advantage for me is that CM6 fixes the bluetooth in the phone. Which means that you can connect a Wiimote. This isn't possible with anything that is a variation of the stock rom. Which means only CM6 or other AOSP roms will be capable of supporting the Wiimote on the Evo.
The Cyanogen team has put more focus into things like the way the audio is processed. They use DSP managers to fine tune your audio.
There are some unique settings you can use as well. For example, by holding the back button, you kill whatever app is in the foreground. This eliminates the need for task killers, and lets you truly close an app when you want to.
The biggest pro for most people is that it is substantially faster. This makes games, and other resource heavy apps run smoother. If you use something like PSX4DROID (a playstation emulator), I would recommend this rom because you can use the Wii Controller, and the games will run smoother.
Overall, it's an engineering marvel, because it's built completely by open source developers. These are guys that all have day jobs and do this as a hobby, and in many ways, they do a better job than Google and HTC who have armies of full time developers. That's why they get so much support. Is because it's truly astounding what they do with their resources.
So this might be the blind leading the blind, but I'm a noob as well when it comes to ROM flashing stuff.. From what little you have mentioned CM6 isn't what you want. CM6 is very good but it is not SenseUI, by default it does not have swype, it does not do 4g, hdmi is not there and I'm sure there are other things... That being said, from what I have read, CM is very good for what it is...
If you want to stay relatively stock but with some tweaks, you likely want to look at Fresh or Myn.. do a search in the XDA evo-->android dev forum (actually usually the main thread for those 2 are on page 1 or 2)..
I have settled on Fresh because it uses the latest Sprint rom as its basis so you get most of the new stuff out of the box ie. swype.
Myn has a beta out there using the new rom, but I don't know where it is to download and I am not a good beta tester so I will just wait..
From a process perspective, I downloaded Rom manager from the Marketplace, flashed the latest Clockwork recovery and used the rom manager to download fresh and let it install it for me.. Be sure to check mark the clean everything checkbox in rom manager when it asks..
Hope that helps...
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I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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I think I'm gonna go with Cm6 just bc it seems like they have plenty of features. But what do u mean not hdmi? Like not even pictures and videos?
Also can someone give me a link to how to install them.. Thanks
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bradleyw801 already did a good job of the Pros, so I'll list the Cons of CM6 (there aren't many):
1. It's the hardest of the ROMs to flash. Reads laughable but to someone who is really new to this whole thing, it's true. Most ROMs you can just flash and tryout. CM6 you need to flash twice: once for CM itself and once for the Google Apps (it's pretty useless without the gapps). ROM Manager makes this pretty painless with a simple checkbox, so follow above advice, but still be aware you need GAPPS.
2. No 4G Support. Yet. That's the keyword, as there are a few devs on this very forum who are runningCM with 4G .... it's just in alpha stages.
3. No HDMI Support. Yet. Again keyword ... but less so. HDMI out is one of those things you hear about every so often but nothing ever surfaces from it. It's like Duke Nukem Forever.
4. For all the Sense bashing that some will do, HTC had some very nice widgets that most people miss when they go to CM. Most notable is the big clock widget. Now there are market apps that emulate it, but the only ones that do a good job of it cost money (beautiful widgets and fancy widgets pro). Be ready to look for apps to replace what came shipped with your EVO if there are some things you like and would rather not be without.
Hope that helps.
Ok now Cm6 doesn't sound great. I actually use my hdmi, are there any roms easy to flash.. i just want one that makes my phone smoother and also so unneeded apps don't run in the background?
Bc mine now is getting slow like when I open my messeges and are going from person to person it takes forever. Thanks again
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I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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Well, now that you are rooted it would be a perfect time to get used to making backups and flashing.
You could try making a nand bacckup and flashing CM6(.1.2) and seeing how well it suits you. Like any (or most) ROMs there are themes and you can mess around with different things to make it more to your liking. CM6 is as stock Android as you can get. I don't necessarily dislike Sense, and some of the Sense widgets are really cool (and are for the most part replaceable) but in the end I like the feeling of just plain Android.
The lack of 4G and HDMI out is more of a personal user thing. I haven't missed my 4G and I've been using CM6 for my Evo for almost the whole damn time, since it was first released that is. HDMI never really interested me before, but full UI out is something else entirely. Before it was just hype to me.
CyanogenMod just feels right on the Evo. Best way to decide is to take the plunge and maybe set it up for a day. Restoring a backup is super simple. Take the necessary steps to flash successfully and check it out.
And as for things being deleted off the SD card; not sure if you mean everything or specific things. Things like SMS, call logs etc are not backed up but YOU can back them up in various manners. Some SMS backup apps or what have you which I've never tried. Call log I assume as well. Email and things like that, which are tied to your Google Account are backed up by "The Cloud" or whatever you want to say, and same goes for contacts if you've obviously synced them with your google account. Like, contacts under phone can be synced with google account that way the phone contacts aren't deleted, unless I have that last part wrong.
You can wipe the SD card completely, but that doesn't really happen when you wipe data, cache and dalvik. Just the important stuff so the ROM takes. Check it!
edit: didn't hit submit right away, late post as it seems your not really feeling it. you can remove bloat apps that you don't see fit in ROMs, things that someone might have not removed themselves (even then removed apps are usually available at your discretion) but not all apps can be removed. There are lists about that have "safe to remove apps" and the like.
try it for yourself, if it doesn't do what you need it to, flash another ROM. pretty much any AOSP based ROM has issues with wimax and HDMI but there are many strong ROM's to run, you will probably change it up from time to time and the hardest thing you will find is trying not to flash
You really should try out roms for yourself instead of listening to others. Some people like some things and others like others. I've run CM on 2 phones now (MyTouch Slide and G2) and it's been extremely stable, fast and just fantastic. If it had wimax and hdmi working i'd have it right now (I like watching hulu on my big screen while I eat ).
If you want something that has everything working, myn's warm twopointtwo rom works if you have the older Evo hardware (pre-0004). It's very nice and still runs sense or mikfroyo, which also has sense, but it supports the new evos.
If you want vanilla android and can wait for the wimax and hdmi, get CM, there's just no alternatives. If you can't wait, go to the dev section and look for the threads that start with [rom] and see if any of them suit you better.
Fwiw...I'm a total noob to the android scene. I'm fairly tech savvy, good in general with pc's, hacking tivo's, etc..nonetheless I was very hesitant to root and flash my evo. But, I took three plunge last night, first rooting, then performing a nand backup. I then uninstalled all the sprint apps successfully. I was fairly happy at this point.but I have been experiencing random reboots and sense crashes prior to rooting. So I took the plunge and flashed cm6.1 and gapps last night.
I have to say I wish I had to done this months ago, I love the look, feel,and performance of cm / stock android. I struggled with battery life before flashing, but there is a significant improvement in batt life since ive flashed. I also installed swype beta,as I had received an invite just prior to sprint including swype. Im bummed about the lack of 4g, but 4g is hit and miss in the south bay so I cant complain too much. Oh ya, wifi tether is an added bonus.
I say go for it. ;-)
Well the biggest con is that you can't use 4g or hdmi, which defeats the purpose of buying the evo and paying $10 fee for 4g. Not to mention the fact that stock android looks like a 3rd rate Linux distro from early 2000s.
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so me running cm6 defeats the purpose of me owning my phone????
I dont live in a 4g area......4g is only really advantage when tethering to a laptop
Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Sure. First sticky at the top of the forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
The stickies are pretty comprehensive for the EVO. Pretty much anything you'll want to know will be there.
As for CM6. It's super fast. I love it. I don't mind being without 4G (at least when I'm not testing ) and HDMI (I use Twonky Media Server to stream pics and vids to my Xbox over wifi).
Both of these features are coming soon so if you decide to go with another ROM, just keep following CM for updates on these features. When they are done I don't see why you wouldn't use CM.
As for alternative roms... I know Myns is very popular.
Also, I'll note, you can always flash CM6 and play with it for a bit and then wipe and flash any other rom.
tl;dr - Read the sticky, try myns and follow CM progress.
You might want to take a look at MIUI. It's well designed (unlike Sense), is pretty fast (faster than Sense), and has a ton of extra features (like Sense). While it doesn't have WiMax right now the CM guys are close to getting it working; and since both are based on AOSP, it will be relatively easy to port to MIUI. I prefer CM but if I didn't have a iPhone (since MIUI tends to feel like a copy of it) I'd probably use MIUI.
If you can live without 4g then go for it. The battery life is great. I flashed a sense rom today and with in an hour I was flashing back to cm6.
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Ok thanks now one last question I think... when I do nandroid backup does it save my apps? Bc i was watching a video it said u have to nandroid backup and apps with titanium I think...
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bottom line: try a few ROMs, each for a day, and stick with what you like. no substitute for trying it out yourself.
fine print: i'm a vintage user. I was running android on my Vogue before there was an android phone, when GPS would always place you in san fransisco (someone will know what that's all about - thanks dzo). anyways, having a rooted phone is about many things, but one of them is the ability to flash and try what you want.
if you've got a deal breaker, like 4g or HDMI out, sure that limits you now, but as posted before keep reading and trying new things as they come out. if you're lucky, you may yet become a flash-aholic.
i'm a sense guy; not for the launcher (off and on i'm running adw, lp, and sense home, depends on the month), but for the sense apps. I love the sense messaging app, that's the program I use most on my phone. I ran vanilla for a long time on my vogue, and I tried out CM6 for a day. it's just not me. and I never use 4G or HDMI. you won't know what fits you until you try, though.
to each their own. use what you like.
I use to be a die hard CM fan but now Im using MIUI. Both have a lot of nice features.
Titanium Backup will allow you to backup apps selectively and then reinstall them later. (you can do many other things as well) This is very useful, especially for apps that you can not easily obtain. (ie. not available in the app store) An example is any game from GameLoft or a beta that you may have. (like Swype before it was deployed) So after you switch to CM6 or whichever ROM you can then load these apps on to the new ROM.
Well i rooted my slide, but now i need a little help selecting a rom for it. Im looking for a rom that is stable, i dont really need tons of things im just looking for something that has all the bloatware removed, fast, has apps2sd and stuff like wifitether. can anyone suggest a good rom to use? and could you kindly post a link to were i can find it. thank you
Have you looked through...
The Slide Rom Bible ?
There's possibly a few in the...
myTouch 3G Slide Android Development
section of the forums as well.
I don't quite know which ones have what, but you could browse and see maybe what some have to offer and maybe even see a few other things that might be neat.
I'm using Cyanoginger 1.1(Cyanogen 6.1.1) and it seems to be pretty good. As far as the wifitether thing, I know there's wifi fix for Cyanogen...
Here
Uhhh... I hope that might guide you towards the right rom for you, whether it's Vanilla Eclair, Espresso or Froyo.
CM6.1.1 has been great for me so far. I've only had problems with USB tethering so far. Camera can be a little laggy but that is minor... CM has support for apps2sd. You can get a application from the market called App 2 SD that will help move apps to your SD if they can be moved.
Far as wifi tethering... search for "android-wifi-tether 2.0.6" in Google or ont he forum. It works well.
I'm wondering which ROMs actually work with Netflix. I've seen that CM7 does.
I used Android Revolution 5.1.x (currently .7) and have had no luck. I get the audio but only a blank screen.
Tried all three Netflix APK's and have updated Flash.
I'm assuming Android Revolution will not be resolving this for some time as its team have not answered thread comments on the subject. No big deal, everyone has their own designs in ROM's.
But, what other ROM's have proven workable with Netflix?
Any ROM based on CM 7 build #76 and on will allow you to play Netflix.
I'm not a CM7 fan. But, I've read that. Anyone know of others?
I think it would be helpful for people to know what's out there that works compatibility wise so they can read up on those exact ROMs before flashing.
It's crazy to try and flash/test every one.
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It's crazy to try and flash/test every one.
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I beg to differ
Also have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150
I've been watching that. So far, CM7 and the stock ROM have been confirmed to work and others haven't mentioned their ROM when they mention failures for Inspire.
So still left wondering which work and which don't.
Where did you see that the stock rom was working? I am running the stock rom with the gingerbread update, and all I get is audio and the white screen of frustration.
i have had my s4 for a while and originally had revolt on it, it was good but had a lot of small bugs that annoyed me. now im running liquidsmooth and its been my driver for a long time. its starting to get buggy on me and im bored of it. i have been away for some time so help me figure out what i want to do now please!
do i need to update MDL to MD9?
im running TWRP recovery, any significant reason to switch to CWM or Philz?
Is there any inverted gapps available?
is there any themed swype available?
im thinking of going with PAC rom as it seems it has the most of everything in one. any feedback or bad experiences with this rom?
if i go with pac to you recommend switching kernels? like chronic kernel or anything? or is stock on there good?
do any roms have the active notification screen like the moto x yet?
do any ASOP roms have a working IR blaster so i can use a tv remote?
also for myboy free (GBA emu) if i back it up with TB will it also save the game saves? game saves are not in the app but through the actual game.
SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS!!! THANKS
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i have had my s4 for a while and originally had revolt on it, it was good but had a lot of small bugs that annoyed me. now im running liquidsmooth and its been my driver for a long time. its starting to get buggy on me and im bored of it. i have been away for some time so help me figure out what i want to do now please!
do i need to update MDL to MD9?
im running TWRP recovery, any significant reason to switch to CWM or Philz?
Is there any inverted gapps available?
is there any themed swype available?
im thinking of going with PAC rom as it seems it has the most of everything in one. any feedback or bad experiences with this rom?
if i go with pac to you recommend switching kernels? like chronic kernel or anything? or is stock on there good?
do any roms have the active notification screen like the moto x yet?
do any ASOP roms have a working IR blaster so i can use a tv remote?
also for myboy free (GBA emu) if i back it up with TB will it also save the game saves? game saves are not in the app but through the actual game.
SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS!!! THANKS
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no one can help answer any of these?!
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fergdizzle9090 said:
no one can help answer any of these?!
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Perhaps if you would possibly ask one question at a time you might have better luck!
To answer all the questions you are asking in an accurate helpful way would take an
hour at least not even counting the time it takes to do a little research.
Good luck!
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Perhaps if you would possibly ask one question at a time you might have better luck!
To answer all the questions you are asking in an accurate helpful way would take an
hour at least not even counting the time it takes to do a little research.
Good luck!
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makes sense. thanks
fergdizzle9090 said:
i have had my s4 for a while and originally had revolt on it, it was good but had a lot of small bugs that annoyed me. now im running liquidsmooth and its been my driver for a long time. its starting to get buggy on me and im bored of it. i have been away for some time so help me figure out what i want to do now please!
im running TWRP recovery, any significant reason to switch to CWM or Philz?
im thinking of going with PAC rom as it seems it has the most of everything in one. any feedback or bad experiences with this rom?
if i go with pac to you recommend switching kernels? like chronic kernel or anything? or is stock on there good?
do any roms have the active notification screen like the moto x yet?
also for myboy free (GBA emu) if i back it up with TB will it also save the game saves? game saves are not in the app but through the actual game.
SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS!!! THANKS
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Hi.
In terms of the recovery method, it's all a matter of preferance really. I'm personally using PhilZ CWM currently and have never had the need to switch. The only difference I can recall is that CWM has touch capabilities whereas TWRP has the ability to queue zips.
In my experience with PACman ROM, while I can't speak for everyone, it seemed to have a few problems such as reboots and bugs like autobrightness freezing the phone for a little bit. I'm now on paranoidandroid, and it appears to be much more stable than PACman. Furthermore, cyanogenmod also seems to be pretty stable (assuming you're sticking to the AOSP ROMS).
Again, with the choice of kernels, it's all a matter of preference. Each one is different and there is no one kernel that is best for everyone. So I recommend trying different ones and reading up on which each offers. Be careful that not all kernels are supported for each ROM.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by active notification screens, but paranoidandroid and PACman have something called halo which makes notifications similar to Facebook chat heads, where notifications can be opened up in smaller sized windows.
As for the GBA emulator, I just restored one using titanium backup so I'll check for you when I get home, better not have been lost was halfway through pokemon firered!
Edit: GBA emulator save was backed up by titanium, just make sure you backup both app plus data
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