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so i have a paid version of psx4droid v2 on the x10 and it lags on most psx games. i want to know if the lag is mainly related to the CPU or the GPU?
it looks like the Xperia Play is going to be exclusively offered in Canada first and i will try to get my hands on one on launch day but would like to know how much psx emulation will be improved with the Xperia Play compared to the X10.
i'm a die hard SE fan but with the atrix and galaxy s II offering dual-core 1GHz and larger batteries, it will be difficult to stay loyal. i want my next phone to be able to play psx without lag since that is the most resource-intensive thing i do on the phone and was wondering if the Play will be up to the task with its newer CPU (Qualcomm 8255 vs 8250) and its newer GPU (Adreno 205 vs 200).
i need your input please.
good question I think cause it's android and cause it's gaming oriented maybe it won't lag but there's just a chance that xperia play has it's own games this means games created to use it's processor, ram, etc
not sure if psxdroid won't lag
Try FPse... It's a much better playstation emulator, it doesn't lag at all for me!
Also, try messing with the settings, some games require you to change the framerate and such, i found out some games ran alot smoother. Otherwise, like fiscidtox said, FPse.
Isn't FPse for android 2.2 + ?
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Isn't FPse for android 2.2 + ?
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yes.. it is
I'm on freex10 beta 4 and it works flawlessly.. FPse is the best emulator on android imo
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Try FPse... It's a much better playstation emulator, it doesn't lag at all for me!
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Thank you very much. I been on psx4droid i never realised about FPse, runs alot faster.
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Thank you very much. I been on psx4droid i never realised about FPse, runs alot faster.
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No problem
Yeah it is definitely much better.. Psx4droid was very laggy and glitchy, I never have any issues with FPse. It is worth every penny.
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that explains why i couldn't find it on the market..
guess i'll have to switch to 2.2+ as i'm still using the stock 2.1. but that makes me feel confident that i won't need a dual-core CPU to run PSX games, i just need a better emulator (FPseCe).
before I do the rom upgrade, can anyone tell me if the emulator features custom hardware button mapping? i have a datel bluetooth wireless gamepad that works off the WiimoteControl software as i can't stand playing using the on-screen controls. will i be able to use it with FPseCe?
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that explains why i couldn't find it on the market..
guess i'll have to switch to 2.2+ as i'm still using the stock 2.1. but that makes me feel confident that i won't need a dual-core CPU to run PSX games, i just need a better emulator (FPseCe).
before I do the rom upgrade, can anyone tell me if the emulator features custom hardware button mapping? i have a datel bluetooth wireless gamepad that works off the WiimoteControl software as i can't stand playing using the on-screen controls. will i be able to use it with FPseCe?
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yep you can do that!
thanks. i have another question to add: i still haven't made the update yet to see for myself but with psx4droid, it only reads directional buttons (up, down, left, right) but doesn't read diagonal movements making action games very hard to play (most of the psx roms i have are all action). i use my datel bluetooth controller on my sony vaio using a psx emulator and it reads diagonal movements fine so i know the controller is not the problem.
i want to know if anyone has tried a bluetooth game controller with FPseCe and if diagonal movements work fine. if it doesn't, the problem can either be related to the wiimote controller plug-in software or in the FPseCe emulator itself. the reason i ask this is because if it doesn't work, then there's a chance the xperia play's diagonal actions on the directional buttons won't work either. this is the last criteria on my list on whether the xperia play will be my next phone. otherwise, there's no point in getting the phone because i find playing psx games much more fun than android-based games.. and that i might as well go for the Arc instead for the premium hawtness and larger lcd.
on a random side note, i've just realized the trend in how long i have been keeping my phones before going out to buy a new one... t68i (3 years), s700i (2.5 years), p1i (2 years), x1a (1.5 years), x10a (8 months and counting)......... i'm planning to get the Play or Arc in 2 months but i wonder how long that will last me until i decide to upgrade again.... 6 months?
Yes I'm using a wiimote and diagonal works perfectly... Trust me it is a much better emulator. There is nothing psx4droid can do that this can't.
On another note, play or arc are both ridiculous in my mind.. Technology that is already dated and, as you said, will require upgrade in a few months..I'd save your money and keep x10...
the reason i want to switch phones is because my battery is not holding a charge and lasts about half the day with little use. also, all the batteries on ebay are all garbage and a legit bst-41 battery is almost $100 total (last time i checked).
the reason i bought the x10 was because the battery in my x1a wouldn't hold a charge to last for more than 4 hours on standby only. at the time i got my x10 for $420 from someone who upgraded his wife's phone who didn't need it. at that price, it came with a new battery making the phone itself cost only about $320.
so rather than buying a new battery, why not upgrade to another phone that has the same battery (bst-41)? the way i see it, i will be getting a discount on the xperia play since it includes a new battery already that comes included with the price.
i totally agree with it not having any real significant hardware advantage over the x10 but the fact that it comes with game controls built-in is what is winning me over. i predict the next time SE will be coming out with another flagship android smartphone won't be for another year and i don't think i'll be able to hold on to my x10 for that long. i'm not a fan of other brands as they all put soft-touch buttons at the bottom and most of them also don't make phones that have the same sort of quality feel and design as SE.
I really don't find SE makes that quality of a feeling phone.. It is very plastic and feels like it would break easily. Plus the screen is pretty flimsy...
I love my x10, but I never got how people say that the build quality of x10 is spectacular.
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true. its much better.
and then hook up a wii controller to ur bluetooth and ur having so much fun !
I tried fpse it's smooth indeed, but i can't save game any spot i want, i can't assign hardware key, the onscreen keyboard of landscape is crap, or am I missed something?
You can assign hardware keys, just go to input in settings. As for saving I'm not sure I haven't yet but I'm sure you can
read the user manual now got all those function work but still a major problem.
playing ff7 the character is always moving against my will, did you guys experience something like this?
My nexus one pays most emulated games well. N64 games are really not paying well though. Hoping that although xperia play is the same cpu, the better graphics card will help.
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Does anyone else think that due to SE releasing an Android based "PSP" phone we will finally get to see more and more high-quality games on our android phones?
Personally I won't be buying the Xperia play but I strongly believe that due to it's release a lot more developers will jump on the android gaming bandwagon, which will then obviously benefit a range of Android phone owners (Desire HD anyone?)
So whats your opinion? Will the Xperia play help Android reach or even exceed the gaming quality we have seen on the Iphone? (no fart apps, in terms of 3D FPS, RPG, etc....). Will the Xperia be such a breakthrough that developers will (finally) dump iOS and develope for Android first!?
I really hope the games reeased on the Play will have no soft keys and all the leaching oppurtunisists will finally buy atleast the consolse
No, games are coming anyways. Especially now that Nvidia has there own app/market for quality games.
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No, games are coming anyways. Especially now that Nvidia has there own app/market for quality games.
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Problem is Tegra Zone only works with Tegra devices. The Xperia play is built on snapdragon scorpion.
The Xperia Play will bring a different crowd in. One of the benefits of it is there will be Playstation games you can download and play, and that some games on Android are optimized for the controller. It really won't bring anything major in though, since as far as gpu goes it's not all that much faster than what we have now.
Correction-Tegra Zone is available to any device with a resolution of 480x800, and running Android 2.1.
I hope that more good games come out; there are some good ones now but personally, I think that games are better if you have separate controls.
I think it's brilliant. But I also call it the Emulator Phone. I'm going to rock it ASAP since no one will release a decent Bluetooth gamepad.
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Yes and no.
I've tried one and it's very nice, the gameplay is surprisingly smooth.
The one clear advantage it has is the bespoke gaming controls. In that respect no other Android handset can compete.
The problem with it, as with SE in general, is the tech is behind the curve.
There are handsets being released with much more processing capability that would provide a better gaming experience if properly utilised.
If SE had made used some sort of dual-core CPU or better yet the same CPU as the NGP will use then it would undoubtedly be the cream of the crop for gaming on Android, as it is it will face stiff competition and content is likely to be the deciding factor. In that respect, SE have a slight edge as they're using Sony's existing ties with games developers to bring in exclusive titles to the Play but I would imagine that a lot of games developers will also look to bring their games to a wider market as well.
Only time will tell how successful SE's strategy will be...
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Yes and no.
I've tried one and it's very nice, the gameplay is surprisingly smooth.
The one clear advantage it has is the bespoke gaming controls. In that respect no other Android handset can compete.
The problem with it, as with SE in general, is the tech is behind the curve.
There are handsets being released with much more processing capability that would provide a better gaming experience if properly utilised.
If SE had made used some sort of dual-core CPU or better yet the same CPU as the NGP will use then it would undoubtedly be the cream of the crop for gaming on Android, as it is it will face stiff competition and content is likely to be the deciding factor. In that respect, SE have a slight edge as they're using Sony's existing ties with games developers to bring in exclusive titles to the Play but I would imagine that a lot of games developers will also look to bring their games to a wider market as well.
Only time will tell how successful SE's strategy will be...
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as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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Given their clearly-stated intention to restrict compatibility to a small range of 'certified' handsets, that point is moot IMO.
They could easily have used higher-spec hardware themselves and only certified equally high-spec handsets.
As it stands, the Play aside, the only phones that will definitely be able to play the Playstation branded games are Tegra2 handsets, which are definitely better specced than the Play.
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Well,the Tegra Zone app itself will work with any device with the specs you mentioned,but games will run only on Tegra devices,so it's no good.
It all depends on how well the games can be played without Xperia Play.
I'd rather carry a phone with qwerty key pad than a game pad.
Those are 10 games out the 50 that will be available... keep in mind that those games are re-designed to work with the game-pad
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as someone on engadget said, i think the reason SE went with "lower end hardware" is because they wanted the lowest common denominator for the PS suite games, if the PS suite games are built around the play's processor/GPU it should mean higher end phones can run the games without issue
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That was me! I said that!
Also, I voted yes cause I'm going to develop for android cause of it.
I just need to find a quick-start guide
I tried the android emulator, but its slow as hell on my PC...
Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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it's sales are very low
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Ive been told by retailers there is a shortage
The Rogers guys showing them off at Videogames Live used Verizon's units cause they said there were far too few to waste any on demos
One retailer I went to only got 1.
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Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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How is the hardware not good enough?
Nova 2, Cordy, Backstab, Asphalt 6 look good and pay well.
Gingerbread flies on the Xperia Play.
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Gaming on android is improving, more and more developers are starting to port their games to droids. However, it has nothing to do with Xperia Play - it's sales are very low, hardware is not good enough, etc.
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yeah.....forgive me but i call BS, do you even have a source/link to your low sales claim?
as for the hardware not being good enough? no one here will lie and say the play is using the highest specs available but its good enough for everything gaming related on android right now, i dont know if you have a play (but judging from your above comment, i doubt it) but coming from someone who does, its great, if your only looking at reviews/non-confirmed sales/specs and coming to a conclusion your missing out
why has no one mentioned the playstation Suite? i no its still a long way off but its coming and it will be a great source for android phones in general as well as xperia play games
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yeah.....forgive me but i call BS, do you even have a source/link to your low sales claim?
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Nope. I'm only considering overall enthusiasm about this phone on the internet forums. The enthusiasm is more or less non present at all. Of course, there is still a way that A LOT of people are buying it and, before they could even post on XDA, suddenly dying from an endless joy they recieve from playing those top-notch gameloft games, which all (except for, well, one) has been available for iOS for months, but i find it quite unrealistic.
Anyway, to improve the gaming situation this phone should be popular, i mean, POPULAR, like top HTC or Samsung phones are, with all their multimillion sales. And this phone is not. I suppose, it is even less desireable then it's brother Xperia Arc.
as for the hardware not being good enough? no one here will lie and say the play is using the highest specs available but its good enough for everything gaming related on android right now
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Right now, this phone is outdated. Hardware is good for 2010, but now it is 2011, and there are already some exclusive games that won't even launch on a single-core CPU smartphone. And Play have to survive in this environment for at least a year. The only hope is that Sony will pay for development of a new games especially for Play.
Phone is ideal for emulators, though.
why has no one mentioned the playstation Suite? i no its still a long way off but its coming and it will be a great source for android phones in general as well as xperia play games
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Yep. Let's hope that this thing will really bring something.
this is the best thing to come to retro console emulation... ever
if you are a retro gaming hobbyist... this is the phone to get period.
I don't know how much more enthusiasm people are wanting. There aren't really any identifiable flaws with it and it has the latest and greatest of everything. I personally think this is the best phone ever.
Is it a revolution for handheld gaming in phone form? I think the idea's been done before so no... but put this up agianst a n-gage and see which one wins
xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think
First of. Try to use some "." and "," in your text. It's really hard to read.
But to answer your question. My vote goes for Vita.
Yup, same goes here. Ps vita would be your choice. Having a quad core chipset and all.
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Yeah, Xplay can't compete with all those gaming console out there but remember,it is a phone. Meant to be a phone + game player. Not a dedicated gaming portable console. I already own xperia play,I'll think I'll pass Sony S2(S1 is the normal type of tablets) and opt for Vita instead. I'm a trophy whore on a Playstation 3 system.
The Vita wont have any emulators until it can be cracked to run homebrew.
I think this is unlikely to happen until at least another 1-2 years.
Wait a second. The Vita better than the S1? S1 better than Vita? They are two so different devices and can't be compared!
- The Vita has a great hardware, yes, but if you don't want a console it will be a bit dumb to buy it.
- The S1 is a tablet witch is focused to multiple purposes (thanks to Android and his apps) but is not as powerful as the Vita.
So just think if you just want a super-handheld console just for gaming or a portable mini-computer-pda wich allows to do more things.
PS: yes, the Vita will have apps too, but we all know that it won't have the big variety that an Android OS based device has.
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xperia play not powerfull enough so which 1 best out of sony s1 and ps vita like many are trying to decide which has better processer which will be able to play games better have more emulators on fuction better what do you think
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Why is it not powerful enough? It runs any PS emulated game and any Android game perfectly fine....
In terms of graphics processing, the vita is in a diffrent league to the Tablet S and Tablet P. They both use the NVIDA Tegra II chipset. Although the Tegra II is a dual core chipset. It struggles to surpass the Adreno 205 GPU in the xperia play!
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Why is it not powerful enough?
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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Exactly. When I see posts like this I just don't get it, because if you play a game on it, and you play a game on something else, you're not going to see a difference! In fact it may even run better on the Play! And not one emulated game (that works) runs bad.
TLRtheory said:
I don't mean to offend... but when someone posts such a black and white synopsis; they come off as another one of those random G4-quality wannabe techie scrubs who go off clock speed without knowing anything about the technology that actually matters.
It's certainly not dual-core, but it's got some very snappy, very high-quality memory (better than any smartphone out), tons of under-the hood optimizations made for a premium gaming experience as well as a beastly acceleration chip.. and it really shows in the performance. As a single-core phone, Xperia PLAY manages to break it's way into the level of performance that's supposed to only be attainable by dual-cores. It's doing quite well at playing those Tegra Zone games just as smoothly as the Atrix.
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THANK YOU for clearing this misconception up!
Also Back on the Topic.
The main problem with Vita (as mentioned above) is that most of its potential will not be available to you until it is opened up (unlocked, cracked, jailbroken etc.).
You are likely going to be stuck only using what sony provides which will still be pretty darn good. Massive selection of psp games, ps1 classics, psn games... all at launch (since most of this stuff is already on psn).
Your best bet at emulating older systems up to the psx and playing mobile games is still the Xperia play. You get the convenience of it being a phone (among other things) as well as it being a great bang for your buck. This price just keeps dropping!
I'm sorry but any way you slice it the Xperia Play is an incredible value especially if you are a gamer. Just my opinion.
Let's see, what's better? A Phone, a Dualcore Tablet, or a dedicated gaming handheld that's not even out yet?
Apples, Oranges, and Bananas.
i will have all 3 lol, already have the play and tablet s.
X play for phone, emulators, jogging with runkeeper and music, control pad optimized games.
Tablet S for couch/coffee shop and in bed surfing/movie playback/reading and touch friendly games.
PS Vita as hardcore home console and portable games. Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.
I had a go on the new sony tablet today in pcworld, very average to put it nicely!
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Hoping its like the PSP go where you can hook it up to a tv and use dual shock 3 etc.
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I'm 100% positive the Vita will not have Dual Shock support or TV out.
I think they're trying to make it less a competitor for the PS3 by doing that, while also nullifying the argument of "If I was going to play at home I'd use a REAL console" that I would always hear from 360 fanboys
If only gaming isn't it obvious the PS Vita is the way to go?
Comparing mangos, papayas and kumquats.
Each of those devices is designed to cater to specific needs.
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Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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Unless there will be a tablet with hardware gamepad don't get it for gaming.
on the other hand Onlive.com in us and onlive.co.uk in the uk is very promising alternative for not chasing new and latest hardware All the time. Once they (very soon promissed) launch android app any tablet could be connected with a regular console controller and you just play latest games from the cloud (or maybe your own pc using rdp or similar ) as long as you are online. Same is no problem with xplay. The point i,m making is that the specs of tablet without hardware gamepad are not so important in my opinion for gaming.
For offline hardcore gaming vita will be the best.
Hope it helps.
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OnLive launched there app for android ages ago with the HTC Flyer. At the moment it's just a viewer though and you can't actually play anything This version works fine with the play
I found the Xperia Play plenty powerful in my review with great battery life
Hey there everybody!
I'm sorry if this could have fit in another thread, but I'm just curious about one thing; if this phone is worth buying just now.
I have a Wildfire S at the moment, and I'm pretty bored of it, it has ****ty specs, can't run anything worthwhile...
So first, I wanted to buy a PS Vita, but seeing that the games weren't appealing to me, and they all start at $40-50+, I'm more likely to get an Xperia Play.
The only thing stopping me is that I don't know if it's still a good phone, if it still can run the newest games, etc.
So please, help me, will ya?
~eris
eris94 said:
Hey there everybody!
I'm sorry if this could have fit in another thread, but I'm just curious about one thing; if this phone is worth buying just now.
I have a Wildfire S at the moment, and I'm pretty bored of it, it has ****ty specs, can't run anything worthwhile...
So first, I wanted to buy a PS Vita, but seeing that the games weren't appealing to me, and they all start at $40-50+, I'm more likely to get an Xperia Play.
The only thing stopping me is that I don't know if it's still a good phone, if it still can run the newest games, etc.
So please, help me, will ya?
~eris
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In my opinion I would just dish out the money for an Xperia s. Just root it and connect it with a dualshock controller.
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'Good' Phone
Imo the only good thing about the xperia play is the controls, the fact that is 'old' in specs you could buy something better, further support to the ps suite doesnt look better either (moving to ICS looks good but it will have ups and downs), still is a good phone but consider a second choice.
To be honest, no.
Unless you REALLY dont want to spend the extra cash for a way better phone, get this.
In comparison, its like buying a Nexus One in this day and age.
No. I prefer my old PSP for gaming over my xperia play anyways. The controls feel a lot worse and smaller on the Xperia Play, and the amount of compatibility issues with custom roms and touchpads is annoying too.
About the games, see the list of xperia play optimized games and see if those appeal to you.
Also, I know the wildfire S is an old phone with ****ty specs but just note that the xperia plays processor is clocked only 400 mhz higher , the gpu is worse, and there is nearly 100 mb more usable ram in the wildfire S than the play. This is not a worthy upgrade from your old phone..If you were coming from an old blackberry/nokia or something, then I would tell you to get the play. If upgrading I recommend a dual core phone, you will notice a huge performance difference.
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No. I prefer my old PSP for gaming over my xperia play anyways. The controls feel a lot worse and smaller on the Xperia Play, and the amount of compatibility issues with custom roms and touchpads is annoying too.
About the games, see the list of xperia play optimized games and see if those appeal to you.
Also, I know the wildfire S is an old phone with ****ty specs but just note that the xperia plays processor is clocked only 400 mhz higher , the gpu is worse, and there is nearly 100 mb more usable ram in the wildfire S than the play. This is not a worthy upgrade from your old phone..If you were coming from an old blackberry/nokia or something, then I would tell you to get the play. If upgrading I recommend a dual core phone, you will notice a huge performance difference.
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Come on, do you really compare the Wildfire 600mhz to the Play 1000mhz?
it´s a snapdragon, And don´t forget, you can easily clock the Play to a stable 1.8ghz, i have mine at 1.4ghz.
The GPU is worse? the Wildfire S uses adreno 200 the Play is the 205..
He will notice a big improvement from Wildfire to the Play.
To all saying no, the Play it´s still a good phone, there are better ones yes, mas they cost a lot more.
Finaly
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Most of the games you can get on the play you can play on any other android device. If you want the play as a solid gaming device, you're better off with the vita.If you want the play for its physical controls on the move go for it. Specs wise it sucks and is bulky compared to the newer options which as mentioned are more expensive.
I'd have to say yes.
All the analysts that said Xperia PLAY would fail to run future generation software are eating their own statements now as Xperia PLAY continues to beast the newest software there is with consistent 30-60FPS and high detail.
No other phone has as many games compatible with it's physical controller as the Xperia PLAY does, and Xperia PLAY's game software support is just getting better and better every day.
I too thought that the Vita would break me away from the Xperia PLAY. It's a nice handheld, but right now Sony's making a lot of mistakes with the Vita that currently causes Xperia PLAY's options to be far more enticing.
I see dual cores, I see quad cores, beastly screens, 3D screens and all kinds of things on newer phones... but when you see Shadowgun on the Xperia PLAY running just as nicely as it does on the Atrix, Galaxy S2 and GNex, you soon learn that there's currently no reason for all that.
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Come on, do you really compare the Wildfire 600mhz to the Play 1000mhz?
it´s a snapdragon, And don´t forget, you can easily clock the Play to a stable 1.8ghz, i have mine at 1.4ghz.
The GPU is worse? the Wildfire S uses adreno 200 the Play is the 205..
He will notice a big improvement from Wildfire to the Play.
To all saying no, the Play it´s still a good phone, there are better ones yes, mas they cost a lot more.
Finaly
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I read Adreno 220 the first time. Sorry. But even then I think a dual core phone with more ram would be better. Dual core just increases performance so much.
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TLRtheory said:
I'd have to say yes.
All the analysts that said Xperia PLAY would fail to run future generation software are eating their own statements now as Xperia PLAY continues to beast the newest software there is with consistent 30-60FPS and high detail.
No other phone has as many games compatible with it's physical controller as the Xperia PLAY does, and Xperia PLAY's game software support is just getting better and better every day.
I too thought that the Vita would break me away from the Xperia PLAY. It's a nice handheld, but right now Sony's making a lot of mistakes with the Vita that currently causes Xperia PLAY's options to be far more enticing.
I see dual cores, I see quad cores, beastly screens, 3D screens and all kinds of things on newer phones... but when you see Shadowgun on the Xperia PLAY running just as nicely as it does on the Atrix, Galaxy S2 and GNex, you soon learn that there's currently no reason for all that.
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Just because one game is optimized to run better on an older phone, that doesn't mean that there's, "No reason for all that". The performance in everything else is a lot better with those phones. The only thing that I will miss about the Xperia play when I get my next phone is the gamepad.
If you enjoy casual gaming in any way, as well as emulating the old classics, this is the phone for you. If just you like having a phone that works really well, this is still the phone to get. It runs great as a phone and you have the option to use the physical buttons to play games on it. I don't understand how anyone wouldn't want that. Then again, I'm a gamer to the core, so my judgement is lopsided hah.
If you're looking for a powerful beast, the Play isn't there any longer. But the Play is future proof because in 5 years, the Play will keep being at least a portable emulator which can handle anything below N64 with nice controls.
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I just picked one up for 90$ on eBay and am really liking it other than the fact that it seems to have a weak signal compared to my iPhone 4 and drops 3g quite frequently on Verizon. I'm beating all the gba castlevania games at the moment and some Zelda ocarina of time. Any good suggestions?
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Sorry to but in but,
I'm getting the Play in 12 days upgrading from an Xperia 8 and to me, this seems like a good upgrade.
What di you guys think? The Play is €229 here, is there any other phone that is that price and better than the Play?
Thanks in advance
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Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
crono141 said:
Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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At this point, I think I'll be getting the First Gen Play because I highly doubt that Sony will come out with a new Play within the next 12 days
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Great 2nd phone
I am a proud owner of a Samsung Galaxy Note, huge AMOLED HD screen, powerful dual core yada yada yada.. I was looking to buy a PS Vita, I mean the Galaxy Note plays games extremely well but there's no getting away from a dedicated hardware game pad being ultimately better for portable gaming.. But Sony are asking too much for compulsory memory cards and the game titles are truly wallet rinsing.
In comes the next best thing the Xperia Play and nicely doubles as a second phone. (I am still scared of showing the Note too much - in public, always a risk of having it snatched!) So today I ordered the Xperia Play for a very reasonable £170 and I think will satisfy me for a while
crono141 said:
Honestly, I'd wait to see if sony releases an XPlay2, or another phone with physical game pad. I think the phone has sold well enough to justify another iteration with more beefy specs (the afore-mentioned dual or quadcore, more internal space, and more ram).
But if you're absolutely desperate for a new phone, I'd get this one.
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IIRC Sony has basically said NO so far on an XPlay 2 of any sort. As far as is known its not in development at all, so it could be a looooong wait.
IrishStuff09 said:
Sorry to but in but,
I'm getting the Play in 12 days upgrading from an Xperia 8 and to me, this seems like a good upgrade.
What di you guys think? The Play is €229 here, is there any other phone that is that price and better than the Play?
Thanks in advance
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I upgraded from X8 to Play, I wasn't expecting it but I found it for a very cheap 150€.
I'm very happy with it, it's a big evolution, specially the screen size. I thought the fisical controls wouldn't be very important to me since I never played very much on my X8, but it does make a difference, it's simply great.
My thoughts for you are: if your looking for a nice performance, great gamming, nice screen size (not the best luminosity out doors, but it works) and amazing sound (the best I heard on a smartphone) and you have low budget like I did, go for this. If you want a powerful phone with the most amazing screen, you use your camera a lot, a phone with better functionality to compete with the current beasts in the market, I'd buy an Xperia S (too bad I had no money for it) or Xperia P
I like the Xperia Play and i'm gonna be holding on to it until another one like that hits the market.
The Xperia Play is an all rounder for me. I can surf the net watch videos nice 4'' inch not the best but its not that bad and the gamepad is a plus for me
Oh and Ice Cream Sandwich will be released as well
sufy1000 said:
I like the Xperia Play and i'm gonna be holding on to it until another one like that hits the market.
The Xperia Play is an all rounder for me. I can surf the net watch videos nice 4'' inch not the best but its not that bad and the gamepad is a plus for me
Oh and Ice Cream Sandwich will be released as well
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Indeed same for me - I bought the play about a month ago - specs are still enugh for me - and as i dont own a psp,.. neither my old beloved gameboy - I LOVE IT
But if u dont wan to carry around several devices - and are not one of those I NEED THE BIGGEST FASTEST AND HIGHEST guys - GET IT
Best allround handy for me - if u love console games
Hardware not too old - and nice and fluid - just a bit heavy
Btw - bought mine for 250€ - there are not many other similar hardware "speced" ( does it exist ) handys at that price anyway....
Hello,I'm from the Xperia X8 community.I'm going to get a replacement phone soon.Do you recommend Xperia Play?
Wow, you really like your Sony / Sony Ericsson phones eh? I love my play. But it was an under powered phone on launch and it's almost (over?) a year old now.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to how much you think you will game on it. For gaming, there is no better phone.
d31b0y said:
Wow, you really like your Sony / Sony Ericsson phones eh? I love my play. But it was an under powered phone on launch and it's almost (over?) a year old now.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to how much you think you will game on it. For gaming, there is no better phone.
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I really like gaming.There are so many phones out there but I don't know which to pick.
get psp or ps vita if you really like gaming.. unless you don't like carrying many handheld you could buy this X-Play.. but of course with the battery limit if you do gaming a lot/non-stop you have to re-charge every 4-5 hours ( i think it's so not convenience if you'd like to use it as phone too)
You want my opinion on Xperia Play? It's a good idea but not exactly what it SHOULD have been.
Pros:
- gaming controller, the only phone on the market with this feature
- good selection of Xperia Play-optimized Android games, some PSX games
- many good emulators that support the controller
- nice design, nice big screen - in my personal opinion
- Sony's support with newer versions of Android (they even promised Ice Cream Sandwich)
- quite a good camera, decent phone overall
- "openness" of the Android system (as compared to iOS)
- you can "root" it, install custom ROMs - advantage for some but not for me
Cons:
- single-core CPU - many people say it SHOULD have been dual-core
- lacks internal RAM - you will know what I mean when you install a bunch of apps/games
- weak battery - I charge twice every day, but I admit I play games excessively
- ICS is reported to run with problems as the machine has single-core CPU
- game selection seems lacking IF you have experienced the iOS (iPhone at al) library
- only some of the best iOS games get ported, and it often takes too damn long (e.g. Temple Run, Dungeon raid)
- Android will never get Unreal engine, hence no Infinity Blade for this phone (again, I PERSONALLY view this as a disadvantage and NO, I don't think Blood and Glory is a decent substitute)
- games OFTEN lag due to insufficient RAM
- you SHOULD root it and install custom ROM if you want to improve performance - or that's what I've heard
I'm sure I've forgotten something, but this is what jumps to mind immediately.
Coming from an X8, I'd say its a worthy upgrade. You'll free yourself of lag and horrible ARMv6!!
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bangawasawa said:
You want my opinion on Xperia Play? It's a good idea but not exactly what it SHOULD have been.
Pros:
- gaming controller, the only phone on the market with this feature
- good selection of Xperia Play-optimized Android games, some PSX games
- many good emulators that support the controller
- nice design, nice big screen - in my personal opinion
- Sony's support with newer versions of Android (they even promised Ice Cream Sandwich)
- quite a good camera, decent phone overall
- "openness" of the Android system (as compared to iOS)
- you can "root" it, install custom ROMs - advantage for some but not for me
Cons:
- single-core CPU - many people say it SHOULD have been dual-core
- lacks internal RAM - you will know what I mean when you install a bunch of apps/games
- weak battery - I charge twice every day, but I admit I play games excessively
- ICS is reported to run with problems as the machine has single-core CPU
- game selection seems lacking IF you have experienced the iOS (iPhone at al) library
- only some of the best iOS games get ported, and it often takes too damn long (e.g. Temple Run, Dungeon raid)
- Android will never get Unreal engine, hence no Infinity Blade for this phone (again, I PERSONALLY view this as a disadvantage and NO, I don't think Blood and Glory is a decent substitute)
- games OFTEN lag due to insufficient RAM
- you SHOULD root it and install custom ROM if you want to improve performance - or that's what I've heard
I'm sure I've forgotten something, but this is what jumps to mind immediately.
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I'm pretty sure dark meadows uses unreal engine...
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It's simply awesome.
A lot of analysts and the crowds of typical spec-counters tried to pre-conclude that the phone would fall out of relevancy because of it's low specs... but as always, they're never savvy enough to consider GPU, memory quality, optimization and such (the TRULY important specs)...
...and at the end of the day, it's still beastin' all the benchmark games, still running smoothly, still doing everything flawlessly, still the ONLY smartphone with physical controls that work with over 300 games... and currently, it's getting more gametime than my Vita does.
+1. Well said
Just bought r800at for 100 usd! So for right now in happy
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Really pleased with this phone.
A little underpowered but it's still ok.
Low internal memory is not a problem with Link2SD
You can find it cheap (i've got mine few month ago for 200E -with no contract-)
Battery is a lot better than my HTC Desire (at least it was, i updated to DoomKernel and custom rom and i've got some battery issue now. Working on it...)
My gaming usage is mostly on emulators.
So, in my opinion, problems are software not hardware :
To use N64 Emulators, you have two apps : N64oid and Mupen64.
Mupen will works with touchpad on gingerbread, but it's slower than N64oid and have a lot of bugs.
N64oid works a lot better but support touchpad only on ICS. But on ICS you get some lag on this kind of hight end emulators, so you have to stick to gingerbread.
Kinda the same thing apply to the PSX emulator FPSE -touchpad only on ICS-, but it's less important because only few PSX games needs touchpad and there is an other emulator using stock emu to play some iso with touchpad
is not the best hardware but play with the pad have no price.
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I'm pretty sure dark meadows uses unreal engine...
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Er, I don't think you can play that on Xperia Play. I mean, it's exclusive to Tegra 3 or something?
Whereas, on iOS you can play Infinity Blade on a range of devices
Does what I want.
It's a smartphone that's not really lackluster at anything. Great for games, great for everything else Android does too.
As far as specs go, it's technically supposed to be underpowered... yet it's silky smooth, and easily crunching through pixels like a fat kid on candy... with ALL the benchmark Android games.