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ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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ok here goes just bought the phone and got it for $372.00. i checked with t-mobile and google twice. U have to set-up a new line and buy the phone for $179.00 and then cancel with-in 14 days (buyers remorse period). then u keep the phone and pay the new EFT fee of $150.00. the phone comes out to be $372.00 bc those cheap ****s tax you on $529.00 not $179.00. but i have checked with tmobile and google this works i even told them what i was going to do. i am on a family plan but it is in my dads name that is why i am able to setup an account in my name. hope this helps
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You sure you don't have to return the phone to T-Mobile? Subsidized phones have to be returned or the ETF has to be paid to the carrier (plus google's $150 equipment recovery fee) if the contract is canceled. Feel free to try it, but I would suspect you get charged for the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622306
I like how they're "cheap ****s" yet you're the one trying to scam them out of getting the full price of the phone
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Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
cymru said:
@seanhassars
Nice! haha
But yeah you won't get the phone for $372. If you could everyone would be doing it. And next time use the search, you'll find plenty more people like yourself.
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Cheap ****s?
Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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If you said "I plan to get it, then cancel, and then use the phone on my family plan" then that would make sense as they have already been helpful for people who are trying to get these phones on their family plans at less than full price - though I think there are possibly even cheaper ways of doing it that don't involve paying another $150 to Google.
If you said "If I cancel within 14 days will I pay anything?" then they may have said "No" assuming that you would be returning the phone to google which are the standard terms of cancelling under the buyer's remorse clause.
But, did you call T-Mobile and say "I am going to order this phone, then cancel the contract within 14 days and I will *not* be returning the phone to Google"? If so, then they should have told you that they will charge the $200 unless you return the phone.
The entire reason Google dropped the "equipment recovery fee" from $350 to $150 was because of this $200 that T-Mobile collects from you. You can avoid both by returning the phone within 14 days. You can avoid neither by cancelling and keeping the phone, no matter what the time frame is.
Hey flarbear i told tmobile that i am not returning the phone, and they said that they have nothing to do with the phone bc i bought it form Google not them. I mean i have called them 4 times to make sure of this. I don't understand why everyone on this site is getting mad about this if this works it is good for all. also in the term of sale it says to connect the provider to get their termination fee and i am going by that.
I got mine for $330 because I have my own plan and don't live off my parents.
Just saying, what you're planning on doing constitutes fraud. Something that is a rather serious offense, and if found out could lead to much more than that extra ~$140 that you're "saving". Also, as part of buyers remorse, you must return the phone in order to qualify. And even if Tmo isn't selling you the phone directly, a partner is. And since Tmo is the subsidized partner, they're even more willing to charge you extra fees since they make money off the fees and plans, not the phones.
On a different note, if they are truly, without confusion, maliciously deceiving you, then its a whole different ball game.
ps. Your horrific English may have also confused them.
Actually its not fraud. Everything he is doing is totally legal.
It may be against the spirit of the deal google/T-Mobile are offering, but there is absolutely nothing illegal about it. Which part would you say is illegal and which law specifically would relate to it?
It would be fraud if he were buying the phone and saying it was stolen when it wasnt. I would be fraud if he lied to T-Mobile and said that the phone was broken and that's why he is cancelling. In this case he has a right to pay the ETF and terminate early as per the terms of the sale. He is not obligated to disclose why, or even enter into the sale more inclined to keep it than not.
Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
I assume you'll be cancelling your credit card or whatever payment you made with it.
Way to go thief.
google's terms of sale said:
For example, if the full price of the Nexus handheld device without service plan was $529 USD and the price you paid for the Nexus handheld device was $179 USD with a service plan, the Equipment Recovery Fee you pay will be $350 USD in the event you cancel within the first 120 days of carrier service.
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179 + 350 = 529
Then you have t-mobile fees for not returning your device after being "unsatisfied".
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4. Cancellation and Returns. You can cancel your Service without paying an Early Termination Fee if you cancel WITHIN 14 DAYS of activating a new line of Service (30 days if you activate in California; other states may differ "“ ask your sales representative) ("œReturn Period"). You remain responsible to pay for the Service and all charges, fees and taxes incurred through the date of cancellation. To cancel during the Return Period, you must return to the store where you activated (or, if purchased online or by phone, follow the return instructions in the package), and return any Device you acquired at the time of activation. To receive a refund of the purchase price of your Device (less rebates received and shipping costs), you must return it (with original packaging and all contents) within the Return Period in undamaged condition and good working order to the place of purchase. You may be required to pay a restocking fee. If you do not comply with store policy, we may elect not to process your Service cancellation or you may be charged the suggested retail price of the Device, (which may be greater than the price you paid), plus any shipping and handling charges. If you activated your Service through an authorized T-Mobile dealer, the dealer"™s return policy may differ from T-Mobile"™s policies.
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Techinally both t-mobile AND google can come after you for the full price of the phone, meaning 529 x2.
Matter of fact, I encourage you to attemp this little theft, I'd love to see real world repercussions.
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Well I just talk to t-mobile once again and they insured me that if i cancel my service within 14 day i will not pay anything. And Google will only charge me the $150 called and made sure of that as well. Also T-mobile noted my account about what is going on. But when i say cheap ****s ha ha i mean you can not upgrade to the phone on a family plan and they are also taxing me on the retail price instead of the purchase price. I will let u guys know what happens
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t mobile nor google has any say so on how much tax they want to charge you
I don't understand why you guys are getting mad and attacking his character when you have a problem with his method. He is trying to test out a potential loophole. That is not illegal or fraud, just trying to beat the system.
we have these things called casinos for such endeavors..
While I find the action morally questionable at best, given the changes in Google's terms of sale for the Nexus One it would probably work. You are entering a contract with a premeditated plan to immediately break it to your benefit. It is at the very least a violation of good faith terms but this may or may not be actionable. Even if it is actionable the chances of either party (T-Mo or Google) bothering is not high.
Prior to the changing of the wording there was little doubt you would pay the full price, but they changed the terms due to the outrage at the "double dipping" return fee.
I have no issue with the OP, I just found it rather ironic considering the thread topic that he was upset google had the audactiy to charge him tax on the full retail price and that they were being cheap. I still don't think this would work considering the whole google "if you change/cancel your plan within 120 days you'll be charged the full price of the phone" deal, but if they've changed the wording I say go for it and be the guinea pig.
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Google charges you a recovery fee if you don't return the phone. That brings you above the price of buying it unsubsidized.
179 + 350 = 529
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You should look into this again. Google lowered this fee from the original $350 down to $150. When it was at $350 it was obvious that you would be paying more, but now that they have it at $150 it is no longer so obvious.
I'm going to get the 3G Xoom but return it once the Wifi version comes out. How long are the return periods at Costco and Best Buy? I've heard good things about Costco, but do I have to be a member there to get the good benefits?
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I'm going to get the 3G Xoom but return it once the Wifi version comes out. How long are the return periods at Costco and Best Buy? I've heard good things about Costco, but do I have to be a member there to get the good benefits?
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You have to be a member at costco. They have a 90 return policy, cash, debit or american express only. Bestbuy is 30 days.
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I'm going to get the 3G Xoom but return it once the Wifi version comes out. How long are the return periods at Costco and Best Buy? I've heard good things about Costco, but do I have to be a member there to get the good benefits?
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You have to be a member to buy at Costco period. The cheapest membership is $50 a year. They currently have a 90 day return policy on all electrics. Cell phones are limited to 30 days. Best buy will be more money, lower return policy, but you won't have to buy a membership.
Many of you are wrong. Best Buy policy trumps tablets into its shortest return policy of 14 days.
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Exchange and Return Period
Exchange or return your item anytime from the original purchase date within the timeframe below:
14 days for computers, monitors, projectors, camcorders, digital cameras, iPads, tablets and radar detectors
30 days for all other products
45 days for all products for Reward Zone Program Premier Silver members*
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Merchandise: We guarantee your satisfaction on every product we sell with a full refund. The following must be returned within 90 days of purchase for a refund: televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, iPOD / MP3 players and cellular phones.
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Help-To...cy/pcmcat204400050028.c?id=pcmcat204400050028
http://www.costco.com/service/featurepageleftnav.aspx?productno=11204333
As you can see. Costco relies on happy members to survive. They don't advertise much, if at all, and rely on word of mouth. Every Costco member I know has been referred by another member who swears by it. I swear by Costco, I never worry when I buy a high priced piece of electronics from them.
Hmm. I'll have to borrow my dads membership then.
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Many of you are wrong. Best Buy policy trumps tablets into its shortest return policy of 14 days.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Help-To...cy/pcmcat204400050028.c?id=pcmcat204400050028
http://www.costco.com/service/featurepageleftnav.aspx?productno=11204333
As you can see. Costco relies on happy members to survive. They don't advertise much, if at all, and rely on word of mouth. Every Costco member I know has been referred by another member who swears by it. I swear by Costco, I never worry when I buy a high priced piece of electronics from them.
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Although you are correct cell phones can be returned in 90 days at costco, you will have to pay the ETF. If you return it in 30 days, you will get out of your contract.
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Although you are correct cell phones can be returned in 90 days at costco, you will have to pay the ETF. If you return it in 30 days, you will get out of your contract.
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This is true. To avoid the ETF I think you have to adhere to the carriers grace period, which I think is what.. a week?
We are however, talking about a month-to-month device with no ETF. ETF's are only for subsidized devices. I do appreciate you adding that to the discussion though as it is good to consider for normal cellular purchases at Costco.
I am actually glad for this thread because it forced me to verify. I too plan to purchase this device and then return it when the wifi-only version is released. I don't like to do such things, but they really shouldn't release a 3G version first.
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I am actually glad for this thread because it forced me to verify. I too plan to purchase this device and then return it when the wifi-only version is released. I don't like to do such things, but they really shouldn't release a 3G version first.
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Isn't that return fraud? Buying an item for a short period of time to use knowing you are going to return it?
From wikipedia:
Wardrobing or renting: Purchasing merchandise for short-term use with the intent to return the item
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Isn't that return fraud? Buying an item for a short period of time to use knowing you are going to return it?
From wikipedia:
Wardrobing or renting: Purchasing merchandise for short-term use with the intent to return the item
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It may be, but costco has the agreement with its products company. You can return without a reason, so how are they gonna say no? As an employee, i have personal heard people say when ask why they are returning "because you have a newer model". There is nothing we (as costco employees) can do but say ok. Infact we have one person that on Monday ever week comes in and buys 3 books/magazines. Then the following Monday brings them back and buys 3 more. But not to hijack, so back on topic. I personally will buying one on the 24th at costco, just because of the price.
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It may be, but costco has the agreement with its products company. You can return without a reason, so how are they gonna say no? As an employee, i have personal heard people say when ask why they are returning "because you have a newer model". There is nothing we (as costco employees) can do but say ok. Infact we have one person that on Monday ever week comes in and buys 3 books/magazines. Then the following Monday brings them back and buys 3 more. But not to hijack, so back on topic. I personally will buying one on the 24th at costco, just because of the price.
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What price do you mean. Unless I missed something, the only difference in price is a 35$ Mail In Rebate that essentially cancels out the 35$ Activation fee.
To Sirchuk. Fraud denotes illegality. The only illegal exploitation of a return policy that I am aware of is the one in which you purchase an item, and swap it out with a broken one and return it and keep the working new one. I am simply utilizing the return policy lawfully, albeit deceitfully. I do not like to do it, on principal, since I LOVE everything about Costco. I once purchased a TV two days before a Black Friday sale because I was assured I could come in and get a refund for the coupon price. I did this to avoid the lines, lovely. I will only return it if the WiFi Only version comes out within 90 days. If this is released like the WiFi Only galaxy tab, then it wont be out in 90 days and I'll be stuck.
To Bwcorvus. The book guy is a jackass. I know returning electronics when something better comes along is bad, but returning books is really bad. With electronics, I don't get to use said device anymore, or if I get a newer model, Costco is still making money. I actually want to work at Costco, but they have the worst careers section on their site. After finally finding the link, I couldn't get a list of job openings, just positions that exist for which I could blindly apply for.
EDIT: I researched the terms Sirchuk presented. I am seeing that I am the evil consumer from the viewpoint of a retailer. I suppose I am not as good of a person as I thought. Hmmm. I could use an excuse about how evil Best Buy is. They really are though. When I bought an iPad, and was unsatisfied with the device they charged me a restocking fee. I argued at length with them since the return policy did not mention restocking fees on tablets, only computers. They argued that it was a "notebook computer" despite the fact that it's not. It is a new device their policy doesn't cover. They refunded me a month later when they removed their restocking fees altogether.
Either way, as much as I am a conservative, I do have uncontrollable anger at Best Buy. I do however love Costco, because they have never wronged me. If buying something knowing full well that I will likely return it, maybe I should buy from Best Buy who has screwed me and my friends before. Does it count that I plan to keep the device if something better doesn't come along? Should I have to keep a device that is inferior in some way if my purchase is recent? Do I get credit for not returning half-eaten food? I had a salad from costco recently that I hated, but didn't return. I am so conflicted now. Though no matter what I do, I will still sleep fine.
EDIT2: I have one more roundabout possible justification. Capitalism works on the principals of consumers voting with their wallets. Which sends a clearer message. Waiting lord knows how long for a cheaper wifi-only version(the one I actually want), or buying the 3G and returning it for a wifi-only version. My logic is that they need a tangible way to show that consumers like me don't want them to play this carrier codswallop with tablets. They should release wifi-only versions simultaneously, or first. If people like me don't buy the 3G version, then swap it out, how will they figure it out. They don't send surveys. I need them to know that I have the money for the 3G version, but don't want 3G, and furthermore that I won't simply settle for the 3G version.
The ony other thing to point out, if they offered data plans as affordable as they used to.. 20-30$ for unlimited data, I wouldn't be having this discussion. I would simply pay for data every month and happily keep the 3G version. But they are charging a 200$ premium for roughly 50$ in parts and the "priviledge" to pay for 3G and later 4G. Add to that the fact that they offer "month-to-month" data with no contract, but apparently if you dont pay for a month or two, you have to pay 35$ to reactivate. Someone will have to prove a tangible reason for this fee before I will consider it anything but greedy.
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What price do you mean. Unless I missed something, the only difference in price is a 35$ Mail In Rebate that essentially cancels out the 35$ Activation fee.
To Sirchuk. Fraud denotes illegality. The only illegal exploitation of a return policy that I am aware of is the one in which you purchase an item, and swap it out with a broken one and return it and keep the working new one. I am simply utilizing the return policy lawfully, albeit deceitfully. I do not like to do it, on principal, since I LOVE everything about Costco. I once purchased a TV two days before a Black Friday sale because I was assured I could come in and get a refund for the coupon price. I did this to avoid the lines, lovely. I will only return it if the WiFi Only version comes out within 90 days. If this is released like the WiFi Only galaxy tab, then it wont be out in 90 days and I'll be stuck.
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Rumor says that costco will have the 3G tablet for $100 less than Verizon/BestBuy.
Also to note, nobody has seen the actual rebate form for the $35 back. How much do you want to bet it's going to require service for at least 2 months?
If BestBuy really is only 14 Days, I may have to renew my costco membership.
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Ugh, yeah, 14 days sucks. If Costco really is $100 less, I'm definitely going to renew my membership. Might do it now just due to the 90 days. I don't anticipate returning it, but I didn't think I would with the Nook Color either. It went back on day 30 of their 30 day return.
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What price do you mean. Unless I missed something, the only difference in price is a 35$ Mail In Rebate that essentially cancels out the 35$ Activation fee.
To Sirchuk. Fraud denotes illegality. The only illegal exploitation of a return policy that I am aware of is the one in which you purchase an item, and swap it out with a broken one and return it and keep the working new one. I am simply utilizing the return policy lawfully, albeit deceitfully. I do not like to do it, on principal, since I LOVE everything about Costco. I once purchased a TV two days before a Black Friday sale because I was assured I could come in and get a refund for the coupon price. I did this to avoid the lines, lovely. I will only return it if the WiFi Only version comes out within 90 days. If this is released like the WiFi Only galaxy tab, then it wont be out in 90 days and I'll be stuck.
To Bwcorvus. The book guy is a jackass. I know returning electronics when something better comes along is bad, but returning books is really bad. With electronics, I don't get to use said device anymore, or if I get a newer model, Costco is still making money. I actually want to work at Costco, but they have the worst careers section on their site. After finally finding the link, I couldn't get a list of job openings, just positions that exist for which I could blindly apply for.
EDIT: I researched the terms Sirchuk presented. I am seeing that I am the evil consumer from the viewpoint of a retailer. I suppose I am not as good of a person as I thought. Hmmm. I could use an excuse about how evil Best Buy is. They really are though. When I bought an iPad, and was unsatisfied with the device they charged me a restocking fee. I argued at length with them since the return policy did not mention restocking fees on tablets, only computers. They argued that it was a "notebook computer" despite the fact that it's not. It is a new device their policy doesn't cover. They refunded me a month later when they removed their restocking fees altogether.
Either way, as much as I am a conservative, I do have uncontrollable anger at Best Buy. I do however love Costco, because they have never wronged me. If buying something knowing full well that I will likely return it, maybe I should buy from Best Buy who has screwed me and my friends before. Does it count that I plan to keep the device if something better doesn't come along? Should I have to keep a device that is inferior in some way if my purchase is recent? Do I get credit for not returning half-eaten food? I had a salad from costco recently that I hated, but didn't return. I am so conflicted now. Though no matter what I do, I will still sleep fine.
EDIT2: I have one more roundabout possible justification. Capitalism works on the principals of consumers voting with their wallets. Which sends a clearer message. Waiting lord knows how long for a cheaper wifi-only version(the one I actually want), or buying the 3G and returning it for a wifi-only version. My logic is that they need a tangible way to show that consumers like me don't want them to play this carrier codswallop with tablets. They should release wifi-only versions simultaneously, or first. If people like me don't buy the 3G version, then swap it out, how will they figure it out. They don't send surveys. I need them to know that I have the money for the 3G version, but don't want 3G, and furthermore that I won't simply settle for the 3G version.
The ony other thing to point out, if they offered data plans as affordable as they used to.. 20-30$ for unlimited data, I wouldn't be having this discussion. I would simply pay for data every month and happily keep the 3G version. But they are charging a 200$ premium for roughly 50$ in parts and the "priviledge" to pay for 3G and later 4G. Add to that the fact that they offer "month-to-month" data with no contract, but apparently if you dont pay for a month or two, you have to pay 35$ to reactivate. Someone will have to prove a tangible reason for this fee before I will consider it anything but greedy.
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As much money as corporations make, the brass at those corps make and the revenue the shareholders get.. well, I find no fault in your logic in how you conduct business.
Anyone that says otherwise is just throwing stones cause they have nothing better to do, or are kicking themselves for not being as sharp a consumer.
Policies exist for us to take advantage of... if Costco thought their policy wasn't good for business it never would have seen light of day.
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Rumor says that costco will have the 3G tablet for $100 less than Verizon/BestBuy.
Also to note, nobody has seen the actual rebate form for the $35 back. How much do you want to bet it's going to require service for at least 2 months?
If BestBuy really is only 14 Days, I may have to renew my costco membership.
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Ugh, yeah, 14 days sucks. If Costco really is $100 less, I'm definitely going to renew my membership. Might do it now just due to the 90 days. I don't anticipate returning it, but I didn't think I would with the Nook Color either. It went back on day 30 of their 30 day return.
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I rarely exploit return policies. Most of the time I am optimistic but simply can't live with a device. I simply couldn't live with the iPad, or the Viewsonic G-Tablet. These devices are too expensive for doubts.
It's small potatoes, but consider paying 100$ for a Costco Executive Membership instead of 50$ for the basic. The Executive membership has a bunch of perks, but most notably is 2% cashback at the end of the year on most purchases. If I recall the only normal exception is gasoline. But if you have a Costco credit card you get 3% on gas. It's not much.. but if you get executive membership.. you'd save 14$ on a 700$ xoom.. or 16$ on a 800$ one.
Gold Star Membership
Gold Star Membership is available to individuals who do not qualify for a Business Membership. Gold Star Membership is $50 per year, and includes one household card per primary membership. See the membership counter at your local Costco warehouse for additional information, or call us at 1-800-774-2678.
Executive Membership
Executive Membership is our highest level of membership. Executive Members receive an annual 2% Reward on most Costco purchases, and extra benefits on member services, such as lower prices on check printing, auto financing and long-distance phone service; larger Costco Cash card amounts for mortgage, real estate and home equity transactions; one-year free roadside assistance for vehicles covered through the Auto Insurance Program; and extra travel benefits.
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Anyone know if Bestbuy pre-order is refundable? I was thinking, I might just put down a deposit just in case I cannot get it at Costco.
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Anyone know if Bestbuy pre-order is refundable? I was thinking, I might just put down a deposit just in case I cannot get it at Costco.
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Don't quote me as I can be forgetful. I am 90% sure that I pre-ordered the EVO at BB then cancelled, got my 50$ back.. and went to radioshack. If memory serves BB handles pre-orders by giving you a gift-card which I was able to refund.
Again don't quote me on this, but I do recall that I was on the list at BB but then I went to RadioShack. I think I did that to get a better number because BB already had like 16 people ahead of me. BB refunded me, but radioshack wouldn't since I ended up getting my EVO on eBay from a Google I/O dev.
I'm not sure how sales tax works in the USA, but with Best Buy do you pay the same sales tax in store and online (for pickup at that store)? The store I am thinking of is EVERETT MA, 162 SANTILLI HWY.
Yes. It'll be the same tax either way
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Sales tax is the precise reason (or at least large part) why I decided to purchase my 32GB grey GT10.1 from Amazon and not Best Buy. Well, in full disclosure I decided to take my business to Amazon because I purchased a presale on the GT10.1 from Best Buy and the store GM guarenteed me I would have it on June 17. Low and behold come June 17 at around 7:00p I walked in to pick it up and they said "ooops, sorry but we do not have it yet and no, we have no way of telling when they will arrive." (Okay, I'm done ranting now).
Anyways I decided to go with Amazon because there was no sales tax and they guarenteed I would get it in 1 day with the 1 day shipping option. Sure enough my GT10.1 arrived 1 day later and the beauty of it is, the fastest shipping option from Amazon (1 day) was HALF the price of the sales tax I would have paid at Best Buy. Sales tax would have racked out at $45.43 and the 1 day shipping option from Amazon was $19.
Simple math, simple decision. That and I would MUCH rather give my business to a company that will actually follow through on their promise. Thank you Amazon.
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I would rather pay the sales tax which in this case is $37.50 as I have the option of returning it to the store if there is anything wrong with it. The tablet is being brought back to the UK for me next week so I need the quick turn around, rather than having to post it back to Amazon etc.
RnFstRuckHrd said:
Simple math, simple decision. That and I would MUCH rather give my business to a company that will actually follow through on their promise. Thank you Amazon.
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Yeah, tax is the reason I ordered mine online...of course, I'm sitting here without my Tab right now because I had to return it and get another one.
I just spoke to Best Buy in the USA, and apparently they have international warranty, so their UK branches will cover any devices that go wrong. I wonder if this is actually true...
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Yeah, tax is the reason I ordered mine online...of course, I'm sitting here without my Tab right now because I had to return it and get another one.
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Why?
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yes I use to think that way also. But if you have problems and need to return if for what ever reasons. Then it's a problem.
Hello everyone. I'm about to buy the galaxy tab and was also deciding to pay the Best Buy tax or not. I noticed everyone said they didn't pay tax on Amazon but I am being charged $44. Could this be because I live in NYC? I noticed Newegg doesn't charge tax. Has anyone purchased their tab from them? Thanks
Edit: Nevermind, I just googled Amazon's tax page and NY is subject to tax. Guess I'll buy it in Best Buy.
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I just spoke to Best Buy in the USA, and apparently they have international warranty, so their UK branches will cover any devices that go wrong. I wonder if this is actually true...
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Err, better read the fine print on that "supposed" international warranty, as there's nowhere it stipulates that you can walk into a bestbuy say in the U.K or BestBuy Canada for example and they'll service it. Doesn't work that way.
The so called international warranty the sales person is salivating to sell you (also known as Geek Squad Black Tie Protection, GSBTP) is a REIMBURSEMENT PLAN, insured by an insurance company. YOU Re responsible for having it repaired at your cost and then contacting a 1-800-number to file a claim. Either mail or fax your paperwork over and you are then REIMBURSED for "qualified" repairs. Accidental or physical damages are not available for "international plans", so even if you're suckered into buying the plan, at least don't let them upsell you on the extra accidental damage protection.
How do I know all this? Used to work there at a store located in a high tourist area and used to weep inside at the foreigners suckered into "international warranties" that were all but useless, even on some products that CAME with worldwide warranties like some Asus laptops, Olympus and Casio cameras and so forth. I still know all the tricks and trade secrets.
Sad really.
lyun said:
Hello everyone. I'm about to buy the galaxy tab and was also deciding to pay the Best Buy tax or not. I noticed everyone said they didn't pay tax on Amazon but I am being charged $44. Could this be because I live in NYC? I noticed Newegg doesn't charge tax. Has anyone purchased their tab from them? Thanks
Edit: Nevermind, I just googled Amazon's tax page and NY is subject to tax. Guess I'll buy it in Best Buy.
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I think this should help you decide. This is from Amazon Q&A.
The amount of tax charged depends upon many factors, including the identity of the seller, the type of item purchased, and the destination of the shipment.
Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax.
For sales tax purposes, electronically delivered products (e-books, e-documents, and electronically delivered software) are considered to be shipped to your credit card billing address.
No sales tax is charged when purchasing gift cards; however, purchases paid for with gift cards may be subject to tax.
Let me help you out a bit. If a store/retailer has a physical presence in a state it must charge sales tax so since best buy/ walmart etc have physical stores and shipping facilities in almost every state they have to charge sales tax online and at the store. With this rule online stores like newegg and amazon get away with not charging tax in states other then the ones they operate in. For example amazon has a large shipping and distribution center in Kentucky so it must charge taxes in that state.
does anyone know..return policy for google store?
Restocking fee in the USA doesn't apply elsewhere I think. In the UK we are protected by the distance selling regulations so we can return within 7 days after using the device for a full refund probably minus shipping.
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The return policy is detailed here:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2411741#US
What's a restocking fee anyway? Never heard of it before this and another thread in these forums. Do they seriously charge you to return items in the USA? Ouch! For once, UK customers get the better deal! Surprising as that hardly ever happens!
The restocking fee isn't all that prevalent here in the US, but it's mostly for larger items such as cell phones. In regular stores they're relatively uncommon, from my experience. Either way, my credit card (Discover) saves me the restocking fee, so it's not an issue at least for me.
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What's a restocking fee anyway? Never heard of it before this and another thread in these forums. Do they seriously charge you to return items in the USA? Ouch! For once, UK customers get the better deal! Surprising as that hardly ever happens!
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You're charged a restocking fee if you return an item after opening it and it has no defects. Generally if the box is unopened or if the item is defective, there is no return fee. This only applies at some stores.
vinay427 said:
The restocking fee isn't all that prevalent here in the US, but it's mostly for larger items such as cell phones.
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But mobile phones are some of the smallest devices you can buy! Unless of course you are referring to their monetary value.
Yikes, 60 bones to return it just cause you don't like.....I'd fight it with my visa. Something about not given what was promised or the like.
Ordered Nexus 4 from Google Play Store. They charged me sales tax but I live in Texas. The order shows it as being purchased from California and delivered to Texas. Called Google but their customer service could not give me answer. Has anyone else from Texas been charged sales tax? Did you ask for a refund?
Isn't the state sales tax in TX 6.25%, I assume that was what you were charged and should have been charged.
Despite most peoples thinking, online orders are subject to local sales tax, most of the time the retailer wont collect tax for online orders since the state wont bother to try and collect it (not worth their time and effort to collect on small dollar amounts with no easy means of tracing them). Google will collect the sales tax regardless, the only way they wont is if you don't have a state sales tax (NH, DE, etc). A lot of times companies will also only collect the tax from out of state purchasers if they have a company presence in the state the item is being shipped to (it's easier for the state to collect if from them if they have an company office in said state).
Either way, buying goods out of state does not exempt you from paying you local state sales tax, if you have not had to in the past on online orders, consider yourself lucky, it wont always be that way, as online shopping becomes more popular with larger dollar amounts the states are taking notice and making the retailers collect the tax from the customers.
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Either way, buying goods out of state does not exempt you from paying you local state sales tax
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Tell that to google(among others) who ships their profits offshore to avoid paying local taxes.
peachpuff said:
Tell that to google(among others) who ships their profits offshore to avoid paying local taxes.
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If you Nexus 4 was to be shipped 'offshore' you could file for an exemption certificate with your local state, provide said certificate to Google and you wont be charged sales tax. If you are a resident of a state you are obligated to pay and abide by taxes and laws for said state, there are loop holes that you and businesses (Google) are free to exploit if you so wish.
I paid sales tax 8.25% and I'm from Texas. With that said you may not always get charged sales tax when you buy online. Because online merchants are only required to charge sales tax if they have a branch of business in your state. I found this out by talking to Amazon. If I buy from amazon and the item is sold by Amazon they charge me sales tax because they have a storage facility in Texas(but they are considering moving their storage facility). However, when I buy from another seller even if it is fullfilled by Amazon then I mostly only pay tax if the company selling the item has business connections in Texas.
I was charge sales tax plus shipping bringing my order up to 392.
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6% sales tax is nothing compare to 13.5% sales tax in Quebec
Try 20% sales tax, AKA VAT in the UK. Luckily all prices in the UK include the tax and it isn't added on at checkout, unless you're buying from a business wholesaler etc.
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donec said:
I paid sales tax 8.25% and I'm from Texas. With that said you may not always get charged sales tax when you buy online. Because online merchants are only required to charge sales tax if they have a branch of business in your state. I found this out by talking to Amazon. If I buy from amazon and the item is sold by Amazon they charge me sales tax because they have a storage facility in Texas(but they are considering moving their storage facility). However, when I buy from another seller even if it is fullfilled by Amazon then I mostly only pay tax if the company selling the item has business connections in Texas.
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Not entirely accurate re: Amazon in Texas. Amazon never used to charge, but they came to an agreement with the state government in May 2012 to begin taxation here, with the state receiving an agreement from Amazon to open a distribution hub employing a couple thousand people here in the state. Compared to a lot of states (where Amazon will begin charging sales tax if they don't already and WON'T be enjoying job creation), our elected officials actually did pretty well.
Cheers!
Correct, sales tax is meant to be charged regardless of if there is a business presence or not. It is just a lot harder for the states to enforce collection of it if the company has no ties to the state.
A lot of states are starting to realize the lost revenue and will be making the merchant collect tax regardless of business presence or not.
I expect the large merchants (I.e. amazon) to be the first to be hit by this