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Nexus One first week sales = weak.((20k))

http://www.pcworld.com/article/1867...irst_week_of_sales_were_weak_report_says.html
Thats a ton of complaints coming out for only 20k sales.
Not being available in T-Mo stores really hurt sales. I think being able to see this screen and hold it in person would move a hell of alot more units.
he Nexus One didn't benefit from such a strong marketing push like the Motorola Droid (estimated $100 million), despite Google's phone featuring so-far unique Android features. This has reflected in poor first week sales for the Nexus One, as per the table below. (Click image above to enlarge)
Instead, Google chose a soft launch for the Nexus One, selling it through their website. But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales.
Flurry's report mentions that the Nexus One lacks the "wow factor" and the general perception that the device is not seen as revolutionary, but rather just evolutionary from other Android phones.
Om Malik, of GigaOm, notes that Flurry's estimated sales numbers for the Nexus One might even be a bit far fetched. He mentions Google has been giving away the Nexus One to its employees and also lent it to many members of the media for reviews, which could have bumped up Flurry's analytics.
Next to the poor first week sales figure, the Nexus One has also seen mounting complaints over the 3G connectivity of the device and the lack of developer tools for the Android 2.1 platform.
In her review of the Nexus One, my colleague Ginny Mies notes that Google's phone "isn't quite the game-changer people hoped it would be, though it certainly trumps other phones in performance, display quality, and speed." Next to pros like a dazzling OLED display, snappy performance and sleep, slim design, she marks the lack of multitouch support and the software keyboard as cons.
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE

melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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awww Fuuudgdeeee
Had to be 2 new yorkers didnt it. lol
Agree with this though. Ive been saying I hope a ton of people want it but few get it. That way Google is pressed to resolve there customer service and HW issues and early adopters dont look like bandwagon jumpers for the latest fashion device.
On the flip side... I hope Google doesnt turn around and blame Tmobile. Tmo and Google have been continually bringing out Android sets I hope that relationship doesnt sour because of this.

Actually 20k in sales for a phone that has reportedly had the vast majority of users buy the unlocked version is pretty damn good (Leo Laporte mentioned it on TWiT on Sunday)
melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....

The bad press on this phone is silly. It takes nothing into consideration, bends around the truth, and just sounds misinformed. This phone had a soft launch, wasn't available in stores, no television ads, and wasn't really advertised by Google until the day of it's launch.
These soft launches make an impact. Word will spread and then it will pop up and explode on Verizon. I'm not even trying to defend the device, it just makes me angry seeing so much misinformed crap popping up on the web.
"But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
Mixed reviews meaning angry fanboys? I don't get it. The thing runs Android really well, is fast as hell, looks great, has a good camera, etc. I have no idea what people were expecting. Android has been out, and this was stated to be an Android device.

mark925 said:
As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
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+1
everybody and their dog has an iphone. i'd rather have something few others do

To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.

My proverbial 2 cents...
#1. It's hard for someone to drop that much cash on a phone unseen. Like others have pointed out, it's hard to sell a mobile phone without being able to "touch" it and play with it at a retail store.
#2. The N1 is one of the first handsets relatively available for purchase which has the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor. I honestly think the "hacking" community for the N1 will be similar of what the G1 (HTC Dream) has seen... In other words, the HTC Passion is basically the next great hacking platform as the HTC Dream experienced.
Cheers,
Kermee

So essentially 1 in 150,000 Americans (ROUGHLY, only considering domestic sales) are packin the N1 - Sounds like a pretty elite/exclusive group if you ask me

booloobunny said:
..."But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
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Also, to add onto this...I don't think the price is steep at all. In fact it is cheaper than many other unlocked devices with lesser hardware. Also, it has been pointed out in many places that getting the unlocked version is cheaper than going with the subsidized version and mandatory plan.

When a phone can be purchased only from one location and one URL only gadget freaks like us know about it's existence. Some of my friends who think they are gadget freaks were shocked to see my phone over the weekend. They didn't even know about it yet. Forget the common man. Unless, the phone is sold in T-mobile, and B&M stores, it will be hard to sell like Driod.
Except for lousy T-mobile 3G inside buildings, I love this phone. But I am seriously thinking about returning just to go back to AT&T as I would like to stay with the best GSM carrier who gets most unlocked 3G phones so I can keep changing my phones every few months.

uansari1 said:
To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
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I agree. This seems similar to Gmail when it was in Beta....and Gvoice. Only certain people had it and it was invite only. This seems to make a launch more manageable (less volume) and the inital adopters are the ones who typically want it the most and spread the word to others for free.

I want one... I just don't want to pay $530 to be a beta tester. I think once the 3g issues are solved we'll see alot more people pay for the phone

once Verizon and vodaphone get this phone. Sales will SKY rocket.

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The only way for a big change in sales would be to sell the Nexus One in stores, mainstream buyers are not going to spend premium money on a handset that they can not handle first.
There are not enough early adopters and tech heads like most of us on this site to make a major impact on sales. Plus many of us are holding off to see how the 3G issue gets handled before buying.

since they didnt really air commercial for the phone and it is only available online. the numbers are pretty good.

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Yeah... Putting the parts together... probably costs more than the parts themselves, including labor.
Sure, I could get the "parts" for my car too for less than a quarter of what it sells for... I wouldn't want to try to assemble it though!
Cheers,
Kermee

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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...not to mention R&D

I still have people ask me when its coming out when I show them mine, this phone is still very "underground"

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Can you send me a link to where you found out the hardware only cost $175 for the nexus one. I would like to see how much the snapdragon proc costs, and the 512mb of ram, and all the other components in the phone, and just the cost of putting it together.
And I am not referring to licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
Just the hardware and the costs to put the phone together. I call bull**** on the $175 dollars.
That is how much it might cost to put together the iphone 3gs with much cheaper hardware. But the Nexus One hardware is another story.

Evo unboxing video

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/20/htc-evo-4g-unboxing-and-initial-impressions.html - intomobile
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/05/noahs-evo-4g-unboxing-and-hands-on/ - phonedog
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-evo-4g-first-impressions-unboxing-video-2086335/ - slashgear

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I have to admit that I'm guilty of watching all those vids including any other one I could find like the one on engadget
Granted they are all about the same but they all still get me pumped about this phone... Evo FTW!!

wow nothing in the box but a charger and instruction book.thats jus dissappointing from HTC or SPRINT,could have at least added a soft gel case or a pouch.and i heard front facing camera its no use and i dont even know when wimax coming to new york.

GHOST99K said:
wow nothing in the box but a charger and instruction book.thats jus dissappointing from HTC or SPRINT,could have at least added a soft gel case or a pouch.and i heard front facing camera its no use and i dont even know when wimax coming to new york.
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you seem disappointed with this phone man

GHOST99K said:
wow nothing in the box but a charger and instruction book.thats jus dissappointing from HTC or SPRINT,could have at least added a soft gel case or a pouch.and i heard front facing camera its no use and i dont even know when wimax coming to new york.
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sounds like its time for a diaper change

GHOST99K said:
wow nothing in the box but a charger and instruction book.thats jus dissappointing from HTC or SPRINT,could have at least added a soft gel case or a pouch.and i heard front facing camera its no use and i dont even know when wimax coming to new york.
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Three things
1. Most HTC products contain nothing more than that. We're getting the HTC Evo for $200 locked/$450 unlocked. That's a ridiculously good price. Do you really want them to bump the price up by including accessories most people would hardly ever use? There's no way I would use a soft gel case, personally. They don't include headphones because the phone uses the same jack most MP3 players do nowadays, so they know people will use their own anyway.
2. What does the front facing camera have to do with anything? They aren't able to use it to its full extent yet because that feature hasn't been activated.
3. New York is getting 4G sooner than you think. There's a reason the launch party was held in New York City; the entire state is likely a target for coverage sometime this year. Do you really think you have it that bad? A lot of us aren't getting 4G until the end of the year, if we're lucky, and we're still stuck paying the $10 Evo tax.
There really isn't much to complain about.

Mecha2142 said:
Three things
1. Most HTC products contain nothing more than that. We're getting the HTC Evo for $200 locked/$450 unlocked. That's a ridiculously good price. Do you really want them to bump the price up by including accessories most people would hardly ever use? There's no way I would use a soft gel case, personally. They don't include headphones because the phone uses the same jack most MP3 players do nowadays, so they know people will use their own anyway.
2. What does the front facing camera have to do with anything? They aren't able to use it to its full extent yet because that feature hasn't been activated.
3. New York is getting 4G sooner than you think. There's a reason the launch party was held in New York City; the entire state is likely a target for coverage sometime this year. Do you really think you have it that bad? A lot of us aren't getting 4G until the end of the year, if we're lucky, and we're still stuck paying the $10 Evo tax.
There really isn't much to complain about.
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How come the guy @ Best Buy said there's no extra charge for the 4g when i asked? he just checked my acct and say, "you are in fact eligible to upgrade"

Mecha2142 said:
Three things
1. Most HTC products contain nothing more than that. We're getting the HTC Evo for $200 locked/$450 unlocked. That's a ridiculously good price. Do you really want them to bump the price up by including accessories most people would hardly ever use? There's no way I would use a soft gel case, personally. They don't include headphones because the phone uses the same jack most MP3 players do nowadays, so they know people will use their own anyway.
2. What does the front facing camera have to do with anything? They aren't able to use it to its full extent yet because that feature hasn't been activated.
3. New York is getting 4G sooner than you think. There's a reason the launch party was held in New York City; the entire state is likely a target for coverage sometime this year. Do you really think you have it that bad? A lot of us aren't getting 4G until the end of the year, if we're lucky, and we're still stuck paying the $10 Evo tax.
There really isn't much to complain about.
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I've had three HTC phones: T-Mo Shadow, Blackstone and HD2. Each came with charger, USB cord and case or pouch. The Blackstone and HD2 were Euro...maybe a continental thing.
Really, looks like a sprint thing to me. What else are they skimping on?
My HD2 is better all the time.

Yeah, from what I hear, phones overseas are pretty freaking expensive.
Regardless, Sprint most likely neglected to include any additional accessories to keep the cost of the phone down. I'm still glad they did it.

wow some people seems to be pissed of off my post.im not really dissappointed with the supersonic at all jus wanna get my $ worth cuz im re-entering sprint again.i had sprint before and i got screwed over 3 lines and my credit went down the drain after that.sprint jus scares me with their bill.then again u guys did clear few things up for me and yea still getting it in the 5th at bestbuy.

GHOST99K said:
wow some people seems to be pissed of off my post.im not really dissappointed with the supersonic at all jus wanna get my $ worth cuz im re-entering sprint again.i had sprint before and i got screwed over 3 lines and my credit went down the drain after that.sprint jus scares me with their bill.then again u guys did clear few things up for me and yea still getting it in the 5th at bestbuy.
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holy punctuation batman!

Thinking of ordering an Evo

Good or bad idea?
I'm hoping the newer batches will be fixed since Sprint/HTC is taking so long to come up with a new stock.
The hardware issues like the screen peeling and stuff, will be covered by a silicone case that I'll have I believe.
And the software issues will be fixed soon hopefully.
What do you guys think?

just get it your going to love it, dont listen to all the naysayers some people just cant be pleased. the biggest thing that people are griping about is the fps lock, which unless your very anal about gaming and have to have everything be ridiculously smooth then i guess might bother you...it certainly has no effect whatsoever on my usage of my device or even the few games ive played on it....
to me watching something in 60fps just seems so fake, like its just TOO smooth, i was playing metro 2033 the other day and with all the settings at their max @1080p resolution i average about about 35 fps...i got to this one part (its like a on rails part where you carry this kid on your back) and the frame rate just jumps to like at least double what i was getting up to like 75fps and the game was just very disorienting...like i wanted the controls to react faster, the game was so smooth that it almost seemed like it lagged behind my controls... it was pretty strange...so anyway thats my whole thing, maybe its because im just used to playing games at 30fps... most games on consoles are 30fps and people dont caus a stink like they do here about them lol...

Oh yeah, sure. Don't listen to the naysayers who actually bought the damned phone.
Currently, the Evo is suffering from the 30fps cap and slow touch response. I recorded the following videos a while ago to demonstrate what I mean:
There is no such thing as being 'too smooth'. Look at devices like the iPhone and Galaxy S and say they're 'too smooth'. Just be aware that these issues do exist and may or may not be fixed by HTC in the near future.
Apart from that, however, I have absolutely no issues with the phone.

Freelancerx said:
just get it your going to love it, dont listen to all the naysayers some people just cant be pleased. the biggest thing that people are griping about is the fps lock, which unless your very anal about gaming and have to have everything be ridiculously smooth then i guess might bother you...it certainly has no effect whatsoever on my usage of my device or even the few games ive played on it....
to me watching something in 60fps just seems so fake, like its just TOO smooth, i was playing metro 2033 the other day and with all the settings at their max @1080p resolution i average about about 35 fps...i got to this one part (its like a on rails part where you carry this kid on your back) and the frame rate just jumps to like at least double what i was getting up to like 75fps and the game was just very disorienting...like i wanted the controls to react faster, the game was so smooth that it almost seemed like it lagged behind my controls... it was pretty strange...so anyway thats my whole thing, maybe its because im just used to playing games at 30fps... most games on consoles are 30fps and people dont caus a stink like they do here about them lol...
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Mecha2142 said:
Oh yeah, sure. Don't listen to the naysayers who actually bought the damned phone.
Currently, the Evo is suffering from the 30fps cap and slow touch response. I recorded the following videos a while ago to demonstrate what I mean:
There is no such thing as being 'too smooth'. Look at devices like the iPhone and Galaxy S and say they're 'too smooth'. Just be aware that these issues do exist and may or may not be fixed by HTC in the near future.
Apart from that, however, I have absolutely no issues with the phone.
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I see what you guys are talking about. The 30fps cap IS an issue for me since I'm a quality whore xD I live my menus to scroll smoothly and I like my games to be unchoppy, but I mean this phone is still the bomb lol. I'm going to order it as soon as I can find someone who has good credit. Being a student, I dont have credit, and so Sprint will not let me apply for a line T_T

txtsd said:
I see what you guys are talking about. The 30fps cap IS an issue for me since I'm a quality whore xD I live my menus to scroll smoothly and I like my games to be unchoppy, but I mean this phone is still the bomb lol. I'm going to order it as soon as I can find someone who has good credit. Being a student, I dont have credit, and so Sprint will not let me apply for a line T_T
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Hah. Being a student, I sure hope you can afford the first bill, which is prorated .
But yes, this device is the best Android device currently on the market, and will continue to be one of the best for quite some time. Better yet, Sprint allows you to upgrade your phone a year into your contract with any plan $69.99 and above.

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Hah. Being a student, I sure hope you can afford the first bill, which is prorated .
But yes, this device is the best Android device currently on the market, and will continue to be one of the best for quite some time. Better yet, Sprint allows you to upgrade your phone a year into your contract with any plan $69.99 and above.
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My dad pays the phone bill, so no problems there lol. Is the first bill gonna be higher than usual or something?

txtsd said:
My dad pays the phone bill, so no problems there lol. Is the first bill gonna be higher than usual or something?
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well, he is referring to it being pro-rated, meaning you will be billed for part of a cycle in addition to your regular billing cycle-- the part you use outside of it. not to mention activation fee, etc.. but I got out of mine.

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well, he is referring to it being pro-rated, meaning you will be billed for part of a cycle in addition to your regular billing cycle-- the part you use outside of it. not to mention activation fee, etc.. but I got out of mine.
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ok I had no idea what pro-rated meant, so I researched. Is there any way to avoid these charges? like not use the phone for a few days or something?

No way to avoid the pro-rated charges unless you open the line on the first day of the month(billing cycle). And then you will have activation fee's, another 5 dollor charge to track your usage and that wont come off your bill until you pay every month on time for 18 months(appariently). Then you got taxes...... those all depend on your state and how they are billed, I got billed for city,county, and state sales tax... and even more money for activating a phone in my city and county... Basterds!

lol, the funny thing is. i dont have any credit, i have a saving account and have some carriers in the past. when i went to apply for sprint, i got declined for 2 lines. my girl ran her credit and got approved for 2 lines with 2 free blackberries,, she has one closed banking account and NO CREDIT WHAT SO EVER. i mean im not complaining,,, cough EVO.. but just had me buggin in radioshack lol

does everybody on Sprint have the same bill cycle (meaning same start/end day/date)?
it's weird cause i activated my 4 lines on June 10 and i was charged a prorated amount from June 10-12 and the full bill from June 13 and on; that's just nonsense and feels like they are just stealing that amount for no apparent reason when they could've easily just made the 1st month from the day of activation

I don't know how exactly the bill cycles work for sprint, I worked for At&t. But they started my bill cycle on the first, thats when my first bill is due..

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No way to avoid the pro-rated charges unless you open the line on the first day of the month(billing cycle). And then you will have activation fee's, another 5 dollor charge to track your usage and that wont come off your bill until you pay every month on time for 18 months(appariently). Then you got taxes...... those all depend on your state and how they are billed, I got billed for city,county, and state sales tax... and even more money for activating a phone in my city and county... Basterds!
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T_T I was thinking I could just not call or text for the few days till the beginning of the billing cycle. and whaaaaat?! $5/mo just to check if I pay on time or not? that's horrible. makes me not want to get the Evo. If the phone bill is going to be expensive as hell just because of these retarded factors, I might as well buy an unlocked Evo, and use my at&t sim card in it.
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lol, the funny thing is. i dont have any credit, i have a saving account and have some carriers in the past. when i went to apply for sprint, i got declined for 2 lines. my girl ran her credit and got approved for 2 lines with 2 free blackberries,, she has one closed banking account and NO CREDIT WHAT SO EVER. i mean im not complaining,,, cough EVO.. but just had me buggin in radioshack lol
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I hate how they check for credit to give you a line. They won't give me one no matter what. And my dad doesn't live in the states, so i don't know if they'll let me get a line on his name T_T
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does everybody on Sprint have the same bill cycle (meaning same start/end day/date)?
it's weird cause i activated my 4 lines on June 10 and i was charged a prorated amount from June 10-12 and the full bill from June 13 and on; that's just nonsense and feels like they are just stealing that amount for no apparent reason when they could've easily just made the 1st month from the day of activation
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I need to figure this out so I can avoid the pro-charge.

txtsd said:
If the phone bill is going to be expensive as hell just because of these retarded factors, I might as well buy an unlocked Evo, and use my at&t sim card in it.
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You cant use any SIM cards with the Evo. It's a CDMA device, which means it doesn't have any support for those.

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You cant use any SIM cards with the Evo. It's a CDMA device, which means it doesn't have any support for those.
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dammit T_T

I don't have any credit either. I have multiple people sueing me, and a few overdue doctor bills on my credit. I have got declined for every credit card I have applied for.
And the $5 dollor charge has nothing to do with the evo, I think its something they put on all accounts, or well probably for people with horrible credit.
Really, with everything you getting on sprint, and its still a bit cheaper than any other company out there, for unlimited everything.

I wouldnt get one. I'm pretty disappointed with mine. At first it was neat, but now I'm kind of bored with it. There are 0 good games compared to what there was on the iphone. And the ones that are decent run like crap on the evo.
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Try it for 30 days, if you don't like it, return it.
'nuf said.

gman8966 said:
I wouldnt get one. I'm pretty disappointed with mine. At first it was neat, but now I'm kind of bored with it. There are 0 good games compared to what there was on the iphone. And the ones that are decent run like crap on the evo.
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...which is why I'm contemplating on getting one, and haven't already ordered one
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Try it for 30 days, if you don't like it, return it.
'nuf said.
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What will it cost me to 'try' the phone for 30 days?

Nexus S = Rip off?

Hey guys, ordered this in the UK but I'm hearing so many bad things about it.
No Gorilla glass
GPS problems
Feels cheap
Plastic
Crap camera
.....and so on!
£549 quid this cost me and feels like with all the comments it's only worth half that.
To those who own the handset, what's the build quality like and is it simply a good handset to justify the price?
Thanks

£549 is definitely far too much in my option. Simply because it's nearly £150 more than it's being sold for in the US.
My N1 set me back £412 after shipping and taxes.

Rusty! said:
£549 is definitely far too much in my option. Simply because it's nearly £150 more than it's being sold for in the US.
My N1 set me back £412 after shipping and taxes.
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Yeah I'm trying to stop myself from cancelling the phone and just picking up a Desire HD, seems like I get more for less money if you get me.

recklesslife85 said:
Hey guys, ordered this in the UK but I'm hearing so many bad things about it.
No Gorilla glass
GPS problems
Feels cheap
Plastic
Crap camera
.....and so on!
£549 quid this cost me and feels like with all the comments it's only worth half that.
To those who own the handset, what's the build quality like and is it simply a good handset to justify the price?
Thanks
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I can really understand your point, but this is google's phone, it will be updated constantly and all problems rectified quickly, i think it was rushed out for christmas..... HTC phones or Samsung phones are also not without their problems, and i think we are looking at the negatives too much without enjoying the many positives.
549 IS a rip off, thats understood... But we have to understand that the 330 pounds plus VAT & Shipping from the US will add to the price. There is no doubt that this phone is the best Android phone to date, we just need to give Google time to iron out the errors.
GPS is working fine with 98 percent of devices, which sort of falls into line with what we see with other devices.
When you get your phone, enjoy your purchase, and then wait for the next nexus, which will probably be next xmas to upgrade again. I have told myself now that nexus phones are the only way to have a good google experience. HTC phones have major build quality and hardware flaws, and coupled with there inability to even put a decent screen on their flagship device should be seen as showing exactly what they think of their customers. LCD on the Desire HD = Joke. It looks like someone threw domestos bleach over the screen from an off straight viewing angle, lol
Enjoy your device man... Because there is nothing better atm Well at least untill the next Nexus drops;P
JD

I got mine in US. It is no Rip Off this is by far the best Android far i have used and i just came from a NexuS One. It is a good phone Im enjopying every moment of it. People just want too much. Even if it had all the stuff u mentioned people would STILL cry. You would'nt understand until you have it in your hands on it.

The price in the US is $529 which is £340.78. How much is the VAT, 17.5%?
The correct price in the UK should be £400.42.

shrivelfig said:
The price in the US is $529 which is £340.78. How much is the VAT, 17.5%?
The correct price in the UK should be £400.42.
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Add around 50 quid for each phone to ship and CPW's large cut,
the phone's fair price should be 499.99
But alas, we do not live in a fair world.
JD

Thanks for all the messages guys.
The price is rather shocking here in the UK 'like everything' so I'm kind of used to that. Sounds very cheaply built which I find very, very worrying for the price.

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I can really understand your point, but this is google's phone, it will be updated constantly and all problems rectified quickly, i think it was rushed out for christmas..... HTC phones or Samsung phones are also not without their problems, and i think we are looking at the negatives too much without enjoying the many positives.
549 IS a rip off, thats understood... But we have to understand that the 330 pounds plus VAT & Shipping from the US will add to the price. There is no doubt that this phone is the best Android phone to date, we just need to give Google time to iron out the errors.
GPS is working fine with 98 percent of devices, which sort of falls into line with what we see with other devices.
When you get your phone, enjoy your purchase, and then wait for the next nexus, which will probably be next xmas to upgrade again. I have told myself now that nexus phones are the only way to have a good google experience. HTC phones have major build quality and hardware flaws, and coupled with there inability to even put a decent screen on their flagship device should be seen as showing exactly what they think of their customers. LCD on the Desire HD = Joke. It looks like someone threw domestos bleach over the screen from an off straight viewing angle, lol
Enjoy your device man... Because there is nothing better atm Well at least untill the next Nexus drops;P
JD
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Well said...I also decided to get Nexus phones from now on too....

recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for all the messages guys.
The price is rather shocking here in the UK 'like everything' so I'm kind of used to that. Sounds very cheaply built which I find very, very worrying for the price.
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It does feel that way. But the perfomance is just out this world. It actually deosnt feel THAT cheap though

Reasons not to get the Desire HD
May not get Honeycomb officially (will defo get 2.3)
Internal and external speaker problems, and very quiet. Internal speaker has high static jolts when calling over 2g. This is also the same for the Desire Z.
Heavy phone over a large area, 160g.
Scratch the metal back and your phone devalues without possible rectification.
Terrible screen, big but blacks are very bleached and also you have a white hue over the phone when viewing from an off straight angle.
Horrible battery cover, gap in the back part + easily bends and warped....
JD

Smilez_c said:
It does feel that way. But the perfomance is just out this world. It actually deosnt feel THAT cheap though
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Cool, been having a dodgy hour or two thinking about the phone cause I'm snowed in off work. Hahaha
I'll wait and judge when it's in my hands but I appreciate all the good comments guys.

The Super AMOLED screen will awe and amaze you. Fricking gorgeous.
I've also got an iPhone 4, Nexus One, and even a Galaxy S i9000. The Galaxy S and Nexus S are by far my favorite screens. I've also compared them to Desire HD, Droid X and a few others. The MyTouch 4G is the only thing that comes close in my opinion, followed right behind by the iPhone 4, but the iPhone's 3.5" is just too small.
Also, this phone is fast! Screw benchmarks, they're not real-world "feel" of the phone. Out of the box, this NS is as fast as my "lag-fixed" modded overclocked Galaxy S, which has posted Quadrant scores of 2200+.

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Add around 50 quid for each phone to ship and CPW's large cut
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Shipping? From where? It's not made in the US. Shipping from Asia to the UK should be the same as shipping from Asia to the US.
CPW is the UK version of Best Buy. The $529 is including BB's cut, the £400 should be including CPW's cut.
The correct price should be £400. Personally I'd be willing to pay £450, or even £500 if I got it now, before the 20th.

distortedloop said:
The Super AMOLED screen will awe and amaze you. Fricking gorgeous.
I've also got an iPhone 4, Nexus One, and even a Galaxy S i9000. The Galaxy S and Nexus S are by far my favorite screens. I've also compared them to Desire HD, Droid X and a few others. The MyTouch 4G is the only thing that comes close in my opinion, followed right behind by the iPhone 4, but the iPhone's 3.5" is just too small.
Also, this phone is fast! Screw benchmarks, they're not real-world "feel" of the phone. Out of the box, this NS is as fast as my "lag-fixed" modded overclocked Galaxy S, which has posted Quadrant scores of 2200+.
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Now this is a guy to listen to lollol
Experience aplenty
Im sure you will love your device, and the build quality does not look cheap at all to me?
The lightweight feel is how a phone should be, trust me, i have had a 180g desire z for the past two months and my hand really knows about it
JD

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Shipping? From where? It's not made in the US. Shipping from Asia to the UK should be the same as shipping from Asia to the US.
CPW is the UK version of Best Buy. The $529 is including BB's cut, the £400 should be including CPW's cut.
The correct price should be £400. Personally I'd be willing to pay £450, or even £500 if I got it now, before the 20th.
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Samsung has big factory's in the USA as well, and if its made in South Korea i bet 1000000's that the USA have big deals with them for tax free importing. I still maintain that 499 pounds is a fair price...
I would be buying mine from my pal ogdobber in the usa but i need to make a purchase in the uk and have an imei number on the reciept to fulfil my requirements for my free insurance with my bank.
Love this phone, and love google
JD

My NS is out for delivery now and I can't wait. I had to return the HD7 after 13 days becuase I could not stand the screen and talk about build quality, the battery cover didn't even line up so you could see the SIM card through the giant gap in the back.

recklesslife85 said:
Cool, been having a dodgy hour or two thinking about the phone cause I'm snowed in off work. Hahaha
I'll wait and judge when it's in my hands but I appreciate all the good comments guys.
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@Reckless
Spoke to CPW customer services at 14:00
Stock expected Sunday for Monday shipping
Should be with you Tuesday at the earliest... You better start shovelling that snow dude
JD

DooLocsta said:
My NS is out for delivery now and I can't wait. I had to return the HD7 after 13 days becuase I could not stand the screen and talk about build quality, the battery cover didn't even line up so you could see the SIM card through the giant gap in the back.
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Yep it was the same with the HD, gonna add that to the list of defect with the phone
Where do you live pal? Your in the USA i presume?
JD

If you're unsure, and own an N1, wait till it gets it's 2.3 OTA update, then go and compare it like for like with an NS in your local CPW.
I plan on doing that even though I'm pretty certain I don't want to get an NS heh

T-mobile Galaxy S2 hands-on impressions from a Vibrant user

I went to T-mobile and did a hands-on. The reviews from phone reviewers didn't quite answer my questions as a vibrant user. So I hope this helps. Plus I don't own it so I won't be justifying buyers remorse.
Bottom Line: Not worth the upgrade from a Vibrant. Especially off-contract. If you are locked into T-mobile and are upgrading anyway, it is worth it. All others should wait to see what the deal with the new Nexus phone is. You will NOT be upset with your purchase regardless though.
Screen: Huge and beautiful. Since it's not pentile, but it is larger than the Vibrant, it looks very similar. The GS2 might be SLIGHTLY less pixelated, but its not the crisp sharpness that I was hoping for.
Build Quality: What the Vibrant should've been. It's the best looking GS2 and it feels very solid. The gunmetal band is plastic as far as I can tell. It feels more solid than the Vibrant, but not nearly as much as an HTC phone. this should not be an issue whatsoever. And boy is it pretty.
Data: I live in a 42Mbps area and i speedtested about 4Mbps. The T-mobile rep said they got 8 yesterday. My vibrant got 2.6. YMMV obviously.
Speed: Quick, but with a live wallpaper and as low as 3 widgets, it started to drop in framerate. However it did NOT lag. things still load and run quickly, but not necessarily at an ideal framerate. especially the homescreen. I benched a 3200 quadrant after a memory clear. it wasn't loaded with smartbench unfortunately.
GPS: Didn't get a lock indoors of a mall (top story). 1400 meters was the closest. But I didn't get to test it outside. Grr.
Didn't get to test: Game performance, Codec Support, Sound Quality or Loudness, Camera, Camcorder, FFC.

I got my SGSII today and love it so far. The screen is beautiful, the gps worked out of the box and its fast as hell.
We'll see how I feel in a few days......
Now we just need some custom rom love
Edit: i get 13mbit/2mbit at work in minneapolis on 4G
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

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I got my SGSII tmo too. i'm loving it XD
everything works perfectly!

im gonna have to say im loving it too!

Guys if you have both vibrant and the new SG2, please check and reply if the batteries are interchangable.

i dont think the batteries are...this one has 4 gold pins and apparently NFC built into the battery (?)...plus it looks taller.
Since I loved the Vibrant, I'm sure I'll love this phone and it's extraordinarily enticing. But to those who signed a contract with the Vibrant, 2 years isn't up yet and they would have to pay full for the phone. I didn't sign one and I paid-in-full for my Vibrant and to get the GS2, I would have to spend $530. For that, I could buy a PS3 AND Xbox 360, or a fairly nice HDTV or desktop computer, for what I consider an incremental upgrade for a phone.
It's not that I think the phone isn't worth it, its just not worth it as an upgrade from the Vibrant.

i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/

trustinhate said:
i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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sit back for the prime.i think it's going to be called the nexus 3.But I'm not sure, a friend told me that.
simply ginger

trustinhate said:
i managed to drop my vibrant in the washing machine and am looking to get a new phone starting a new 2 year contract. they didn't have the sgs2 in the store i was at today unfortunately, but i did get to mess around with the htc amaze. it seemed to be pretty dope from what i could tell from messing with it for like 5 minutes, would you guys pick the sgs 2 over the amaze? i'm a little hesitant to buy another samsung product based on the way they handled the whole gps issue on the vibrant, so i'm kind stuck here. it's either one of those or wait until they announce more details on the nexus prime... but i dont even know if that phone will come to tmobile :/
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luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.

bdroc said:
luckily there are no known issues with the SGS2 like there were for the Vibrant. Even in early reviews, the Vibrant was criticized for lag and bad GPS. It isn't the case with the SGS2, so you are good to go on that front.
As for the Nexus. It may not directly be associated with T-Mobile. However, at this point according to rumors, there should be a GSM version and it should support T-Mobile's 3G band. So the likely scenario is that you would buy the phone unlocked and then get your T-mobile account.
The issue with that is a full price phone and a full price plan. I urge everyone who wants to use T-mobile to take advantage of their off-contract pricing. That math has been done on this dozens of times, but if you buy a phone at full price and join one of their off contract plans, in two years, you will have saved hundreds of dollars. You even have the option to spread the fincancing of a [T-mobile] phone over the months. I'm sure with the nexus that you can finance with the retailer you purchased it from as well.
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I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674

LHBC said:
I just asked and checked a couple weeks ago, the previously called "loyalty program", which lets you split the hardware payment over 20 installments, is no longer available to non-contract-binding customers. Basically if you are not on contract ATM and want to utilize that financing option, you have to sign a new 2-year contract. Sux, right?
here's the link:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1674
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i can confirm this as well...