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So I just got my Mogul, and trying to find software for it is really annoying. no list of programs with screen shots, each program type has about 40 different homebrewed versions, most of the stuff doesn;t have a lonk to download anything, no homepage reference so you don't know if you're downloaded a version 4 versions older than the current, piss poor instructions on howw to actually use it, etc.
Is there an actual list of software links, that is updated with the most recent verion, of sotware for this phone? For example, I'm interested in adding that "Cube" menuing system, and doing a Google search returns 50 different versions of 20 different pieces of software linking to pages with older versions of the software that doesn't even work.
Is there a commonly accepted "best" cube type mening system out there? how about a commonly accepted "best" iPhone like interface?
emkorial said:
So I just got my Mogul, and trying to find software for it is really annoying. no list of programs with screen shots, each program type has about 40 different homebrewed versions, most of the stuff doesn;t have a lonk to download anything, no homepage reference so you don't know if you're downloaded a version 4 versions older than the current, piss poor instructions on howw to actually use it, etc.
Is there an actual list of software links, that is updated with the most recent verion, of sotware for this phone? For example, I'm interested in adding that "Cube" menuing system, and doing a Google search returns 50 different versions of 20 different pieces of software linking to pages with older versions of the software that doesn't even work.
Is there a commonly accepted "best" cube type mening system out there? how about a commonly accepted "best" iPhone like interface?
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Um, there are literally THOUSANDS of programs that work on the Titan. It doesnt take a lot of work searching to find programs that are awesome. Try using the search feature of this website or ppcgeeks to find what you need instead of asking someone to deliver it to you.
Searching is your best answer. Making a list of the most currnet builds out there (some of which the most current isn't the "best") of software out there would be obselete in a months time. I've got the best results with trial and error in finding what works with my setup (hardware, rom and radio).
Thousands? I've downloaded about 20, and TWO work. the rest do NOTHING, due to obscure compatability problems, some random patch being required that no one seems to have, or it just flat out won't work, period. It;s incredibly frustrating.
Most have said it. You need to do your own research and on top of that what's good for you may not be good for someone else. In a way this is the fun part - the searching for the good stuff. Also, I take much advise from the experts on this and other forums.
In any case, you can't *****. The source of this software is coming from thousands of people/companies. Some write something good and just dump it on a server for others to download and offer little to no documentation. BUT... you pay nothing in many cases (can't ***** there). ANd it's almost always "run at your own risk!".
Want something stable, documented, and supported by a company... stay stock (OEM). Wait... my stock software was not stable, not well documented, and hardly supported (Sprint). As a matter of fact an alpha ROM I am running now is much better than the OEM software that the phone came with.
Willing alpha and beta tester,
tsp
Mogul w/ 6.1, 3.16, 3.27, 60711, NexVision Alpha ROM.
YMMV
make sure you are downloading ppc applications and not smartphone ones, and that you are downloading applications for WM6. If the app doesn't work then search the forums to see what other peoples experience is with that program.
while some of the responses here have been a little abrupt, you need to understand that your request is literally impossible. Nobody could possibly compile of a list of all the software that can run on the mogul.
Here are some things to try, though:
Search the forums for "best programs" and such things
Download different windows mobile apps and try them -- I've rarely found any that don't work.
Figure out what functionality you're looking for, and search specifically for that.
At the very least, if you want to post a query such as this one, you need to specify what exactly you're looking for. Our friend above wasn't exagerating when he said that there are thousands of apps that run on the mogul. If you're new to windows mobile, it'll take some getting used to. Be patient and read a lot. you'll figure it out.
Most people on this board are happy to help you with problems, but they do expect that you exert some energy on your own. If they feel like you haven't, they get touchy.
This thread might become a little more useful for you if you were to say what you are looking for (for example, if you're looking for a good program for maps and such that uses a data connection, I recommend Google Maps (visit http://m.google.com from your mobile phone)
Hope this helps, and good luck!
id say VITO SMS CHAT v1.0.1 is almost a must have if u text alot and have a stock ROM...most the custom ROMS have some form of threaded SMS added for u...but stock ROMS dont and this is a very nice program...i dont use this site much, but im on ppcgeeks 24/7 and i know we have a thread about it there...
also if ur looking for a nice web browser check out netfront browser 3.5 is pretty quick and it loads full websites not just the mobile version...and if u use myspace it actually loads the persons page background...its in beta now till may 31st, but if u search hard enough u can find ANY ppc program for free
I tried searching for a while now. After a failed ROM update I lost all my apps so I am re-customizing everything. How do you change the Title on the Home page? Right now it says: 'TELUS' but that's a little tacky. Can someone guide me to the right post?
Titan Apps
I have quite a few apps that I have been collecting would be happy to contribute to the list let me know...also in the development and hacking section there is a huge list of HTC apps that are pretty much always a go on the Titan.
I am new to this site.. I have a moguel.. and I would love to know what programs u have..please contact me at [email protected] with the info..please and thank u.
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I have quite a few apps that I have been collecting would be happy to contribute to the list let me know...also in the development and hacking section there is a huge list of HTC apps that are pretty much always a go on the Titan.
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i'm a noob as well but i read a bunch.thing is there are terms and titles that make reading these threads as bad as reading the bible at times.i tried a bunch of stuff since i had my mogul.i removed a bunch of stuff as well.but right now i use spb mobile shell,pocket plus,fun contact,s2play,s2u2,weather panel<-------- wich is cool as hell but takes a bunch of tweaking imo to get to run right.(still haven't got my radar images right)gpstoday,thumbcal,and a bunch of games.i'm not an expert by far but i know these apps work fine on my device.
this is pretty confusing but this is the index i use to keep track of all the apps that both work and are user-friendly(to an extent).
its kind of hard to understand of you havent written it but what ever
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
EDIT:btw i have all of these stored. (as in .cabs, .exes....)
KEY
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X = Located in Backup
O = Must retrive
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ON DISK BUT HAVEN'T INSTALLED
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PROGRAMS
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O-PDAMedia SIP Keyboard Light v1.0 - Full Screen Keyboard
X-An Original Idea.com Webby - Alternate Internet Browser
O-TCPMP AAC Plugin - Enables AAC PLayback capabilities for TCPMP
O-TCPMP - Alternate Media Player
A_C Slide2Unlock
X-TNT Task Manager 2_0_30487_2 - Task Manager in Tray
X-The EquinoXe Wizard reTOUCHed - New Phone Keypad
X-PHM Registry Editor
X-CodyPPC Threaded SMS
X-Picsel Browser
X-Windows .NET FRAMEWORK
X-Adobe Flash Lite 2.1
X-TouchFlo
X-TOUCHFLOCONFIG.TXT
X-Slither's Cube
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EXECUTABLES
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X-LAUNCHER - iPhone Emulator
X-REQUIRES CONFIG.INI
X-REQUIRES GFX.FOLDER
X-PPCPimBackUp
X-REQUIRES PIM.FOLDER
X-Where is my Ram?
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WMDC EXECTUTABLES
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X-Christmas Runner Lite
X-Chess v2.0
X-Gnuboy-GameBoyColor Emulator
X-Pokemon Crystal ROM
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THEMES
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X-wm6t-waterandfire.tsk - Lighter with Water
X-wm6t-stargateprometheus.tsk - The Prometheus -> Stargate
By the way, the cube isn't all its made out to be. TouchFLO is worth it, but I find myself constantly bringing up the cube on accident, not to mention that its stays in the background after launching. (eating up 8-9% of memory) It's nice to play with, and its great for showing off the capabilities of the phone but in the end, for me, it just wasn't worth it.
Then again, to each their own. Truly, TRY programs out. People like different things so you can't always trust a stranger to give you accurate advice.
I was once a "noob," having switched from Palm to come over to the "dark side" (remind me of the Mac vs PC thing). I have the VZW XV6800 with DCD's 2.3.2 rom onboard. I have thrashed and trashed my poor PPC many times before getting it stable the way I want. I have the following recommendations to all "noobs" who want to see "what works and what doesn't."
1) Don't fear the hard reset. If things go completely screwy, simply start from scratch. I store all my cab files on the card for this purpose. BTW, I have never needed to call Verizon after a hard reset. I simply *228 to program the SPL and "everyting is irie mon."
2) Make every effort to find the answer yourself before posting a question anywhere. You are likely not the first person to have whatever problem you think you have. To coin a phrase, "the truth is out there." If you don't have the time to search for the answer, you probably shouldn't be putsing (a technical term) with your phone. Check here and over at PPCGeeks.
3) Figure out which base application you cannot live without. ake sure that each works with the other by soft resetting after each install and working the phone a bit before loading another. My base for instance is: SPB Mobile Shell 2; PhoneWeaver; WisBar Advance; Live Search; Google Maps; Opera Mini 4; Resco Backup; Resco file Explorer; and SK Tools. I know they work well, and work together. I always load these first after a hard reset.
4) Get a good backup program (Sprite, SPB Backup, Resco), and use it daily or at least before each new testing round.
5) Backup your registry and save the backup in a safe place (card) in case.
6) Test new applications one at a time, with soft reset after each installation. Do not load another new app, until you are sure that you're happy with the previoous one or have fully uninstalled it.
7) Have fun! Be happy! Don't forget that it's just a damned phone with benefits.
those are some nice tips for someone who is new jgilfor. do you mind if i quoted you in my sig or something? (pm me)
warez i use
After going through this thread, i decided to add the apps i run to my sig. When i get home i'll add some more.
I don't know if it's a good idea or not but maybe i could throw up a page with links to the software? Unless i can upload them all here.
What do you vets think?
It's probably a better request to ask for the programs that each person uses. That's more useful than trying to get a list of every single program out there. With a program name and some patience, then you should be able to find the right install file. If not, then this phone was probably not meant for you, sorry. =( Maybe a Nokia? lol, j/k!
Anyways, I like GhettoBSD's idea! I keep a list of programs that I use so that I know what to reinstall after a ROM flash:
Nilisco Flashlight
HTC Voice Recorder
HTC Home and emunutz HTC Home Customizer
HTC Audio Manager
Skunkworks FlashVideoBundle and TCPMP
Lordsmiff Battery Level
Jorrit Jongma WMWifiRouter
JRebeiro EsmertecJbed and Opera Mini
Stroths-Codyppc Led Killer 3.1
Oxios Memory
CooTek Cooperation Touchpal
GoogleMaps
PPCpimBackup
TomCo Solutions Stopwatch
Do you have a link for the HTC voice recorder that works with Mogul, I tried some but are not working. Cab installs the application, but when trying to record, always get an empty fie of 6b. No matter how long I record always have an empty file named voice00x with size of 6b. Or whay Im doing wrong? I installed the same file in a tytn and works perfect.
Here is what i use
Opera mini (great little browser)
DinarSoft MemMaid ( cleans out junk and temp/ frees memory too)
DinarSoft Handyswitcher (awesome taskbar app with cpu /memory usage that can be on top toolbar in every ap)
Shape Services IM+ ( great instant messanging app )
PPC geeks battery and performance reg hack
acbPowerMeter ( shows how much power apps consume, good for measuring 3g versus no internet use )
Blue Frog Touch Dialer, (htc diamond style dialer , skinable , bigger button layout very cool )
Led Killer 3.1 ( disables annoying flashing green service led )
HTC home plugin schen 2.10 ( nice gui mod, for weather and apps)
Youtubeplay
Total Commander
lokmeup IE Slow Scroll Fix
Google maps
Cloudyfa EsmertecJbed ( java)
PocketCM keyboard
RARLab pocket rar
Sipchange ( change keyboard tool )
someguy sMMS ( adds ability to send picture sms , providing you get your key from the sprint website)
PocketIRC ( mirc application)
Oxios memory ( free tool to free up unused memory)
TRE Pocket PC (free registry editor)
I am not a developer; just an end-user. But I've read tons of threads, wiki entries for Herald, etc -- and I can't figure out the sequencing of what to install on my T-Mobile WING.
Everything I've read says that these OEM versions of windows come loaded down with crap that wastes device storage, and hampers performance. But I have been scratching my head trying to figure this out:
I for sure am using ifonz theme -- I have been using it for past week installed onto the T-Mobile default default, and the navigation system is so great, I love it. But I get lots of Memory error messages and freezes if I run ifonz, MortPlayer, and a browser such as NetFront or OperaMini... Just not enough memory avail to handle it all.
From reading, I have seen that various ROMs cooked here have performance boosts (whether it involves overclocking or whatever). So my question is: which ROM is best for this purpose for me -- to be the underlying windows OS running that enables me to run ifonz and several other apps without this problem?
What confuses me is that ROMs seem to be OS tweeks PLUS UI display functionality -- such as emulating the HTC Touch etc. I just can't decode all of this to understand what elements are best for my needs, and which components MUST be on device vs storage card, and which would be optimal to install on storage card so as to leave headroom on device?
I also have installed PCM Keyboard (but I can't get it to stick as the default keyboard; the windows one always comes back), MortPlayer, Comm Manager (love this!). I am so impressed by the current ifonz theme. I read the whole thread from its first release and practically every suggestion has been implemented -- that is so impressive. (I wont bog down this topic further.)
All suggestions appreciated. And thank you. I will be donating to each component's authors. Y'all are the best! I can't believe the productivity difference since modifyng my PoclketPC. Now I can actually use the many aps and utilities!
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I am not a developer; just an end-user. But I've read tons of threads, wiki entries for Herald, etc -- and I can't figure out the sequencing of what to install on my T-Mobile WING.
Everything I've read says that these OEM versions of windows come loaded down with crap that wastes device storage, and hampers performance. But I have been scratching my head trying to figure this out:
I for sure am using ifonz theme -- I have been using it for past week installed onto the T-Mobile default default, and the navigation system is so great, I love it. But I get lots of Memory error messages and freezes if I run ifonz, MortPlayer, and a browser such as NetFront or OperaMini... Just not enough memory avail to handle it all.
From reading, I have seen that various ROMs cooked here have performance boosts (whether it involves overclocking or whatever). So my question is: which ROM is best for this purpose for me -- to be the underlying windows OS running that enables me to run ifonz and several other apps without this problem?
What confuses me is that ROMs seem to be OS tweeks PLUS UI display functionality -- such as emulating the HTC Touch etc. I just can't decode all of this to understand what elements are best for my needs, and which components MUST be on device vs storage card, and which would be optimal to install on storage card so as to leave headroom on device?
I also have installed PCM Keyboard (but I can't get it to stick as the default keyboard; the windows one always comes back), MortPlayer, Comm Manager (love this!). I am so impressed by the current ifonz theme. I read the whole thread from its first release and practically every suggestion has been implemented -- that is so impressive. (I wont bog down this topic further.)
All suggestions appreciated. And thank you. I will be donating to each component's authors. Y'all are the best! I can't believe the productivity difference since modifyng my PoclketPC. Now I can actually use the many aps and utilities!
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It really depends on your likes and disliked. Try a few and see which one fits you best.
As far as the stock ROM goes:
ROM: Stock ROM vs Just2Clean
RAM: 11mb free vs 32mb free
Storage: 26mb free vs 65mb free
So yes, a custom ROM should solve the memory issues. ^_^
Okay, thanks. so would you want to put me into the ballpark of which ROMs are lean and most efficient for my needs?
If you're suggesting the DESCRIPTIONS of the various ROMS will make that obvious to me, well, okay... but I could use some recs...
Also: A followup for my grasping the concept:
When most people here are cooking up these custom ROMs, they are selecting various apps to stitch together into on overall release, right?
If so, I am trying to understand if there are appreciable differences between
(a) A stripped bare custom ROM.... and then my then adding and manually installing a la carte cab files for things like S2U2, Comm Manager, Mort Player, etc ...
and
(b) starting with a ROM that has those aps integrated into the one cab file?
That's too hard for a lay person to understand without an expert explaining, so I hope someone will do that.
If (b) actually enables efficiencies in performance, I would obviously want to use one of those ROMS.
If they are 6 of one and half dozen of another, and no code difference whatsoever as pertains to the way those individual apps perform within the package, then I guess it doesn't matter much at all.
Should I be posting to a different forum -- like maybe the Herald forum, to get specific recommendations on which ROMS would be god for me to start ourt with knowing that my end game is to run ifonz and similar iphone-like applications?
thanks!
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Okay, thanks. so would you want to put me into the ballpark of which ROMs are lean and most efficient for my needs?
If you're suggesting the DESCRIPTIONS of the various ROMS will make that obvious to me, well, okay... but I could use some recs...
Also: A followup for my grasping the concept:
When most people here are cooking up these custom ROMs, they are selecting various apps to stitch together into on overall release, right?
If so, I am trying to understand if there are appreciable differences between
(a) A stripped bare custom ROM.... and then my then adding and manually installing a la carte cab files for things like S2U2, Comm Manager, Mort Player, etc ...
and
(b) starting with a ROM that has those aps integrated into the one cab file?
That's too hard for a lay person to understand without an expert explaining, so I hope someone will do that.
If (b) actually enables efficiencies in performance, I would obviously want to use one of those ROMS.
If they are 6 of one and half dozen of another, and no code difference whatsoever as pertains to the way those individual apps perform within the package, then I guess it doesn't matter much at all.
Should I be posting to a different forum -- like maybe the Herald forum, to get specific recommendations on which ROMS would be god for me to start ourt with knowing that my end game is to run ifonz and similar iphone-like applications?
thanks!
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it all depends on what you want... if you want to use apps that you only like and dont like the ones that people have cooked, go with a lite rom or a clean rom.. if some of the apps and configs that the cooks have made work for you go with the ones that are fully loaded...
ivans roms are usally neked roms ( bare bones roms that run fast and efficent because he took out all the junk that you dont need, and that also slow the rom down )...
papa has a good rom out right now even though he has it customized you can still dissable some of the stuff on his rom and tweak it how u want...
for more info on the roms for the wing check out pureskillzzz thread on the roms of xda...
im going back to watching the basketball game...
check my sig for links to a slideshow of ttrans open touch 5.0ul and papas black rom...
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if you like ifonz ( which I did too when i first saw it - its a good app) read up on ultimate launch or throttle launcher which takes the ifonz concept to another level... ultimate launch is good because you can customize it to look like ifonz with the icons, but you have more power with your device... ifonz is a ipod type launcher and it also drains the phones memory.
thanks very much!... that's interesting re other launchers and performance. (i know i'm in over my head but is that because ifonz was written in .NET vs native code ? i thiught i read that somewhere).
QUESTION: is there a "Browse by Photo Gallery" forum or wiki section... that lets one see the look/UI of the theme, launcher, etc of the various roms, as a means for narrowing down choices?
thx
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thanks very much!... that's interesting re other launchers and performance. (i know i'm in over my head but is that because ifonz was written in .NET vs native code ? i thiught i read that somewhere).
QUESTION: is there a "Browse by Photo Gallery" forum or wiki section... that lets one see the look/UI of the theme, launcher, etc of the various roms, as a means for narrowing down choices?
thx
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nah but you can check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395793
and read thru the reviews...
I recomend ttrans or papamops roms... then itjes, and ivans roms... the first 2 cause those are the ones that i have tried....
what are you looking for in a rom... read the link that i gave you about the reviews of most of the roms on here
I didn't know there are these many ROMs out there now... WOW what a collection!
To OP: to make your pcm keyboard sticky, search for SIP change. This utility will automatically change to whatever SIP you choose after reboot so you don't have to manually select it.
everyone's gonna recommend something different. i personally prefer just2clean. it's exactly that. smooth, fast, and clean. honestly, of all the roms i've ever flashed, it's the only one that i've had absolutely zero issues with. i don't mind taking the time to install each program i really want. most of the other roms come with lots of extra programs that i have no use for, and can't delete, since there isn't an add/remove item for them... they're cooked in with the rom.
so really, it all just come down to your own preference. just check the herald rom development section. i think pureskillz (maybe?) did a write up on various roms and his pros and cons on each.
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everyone's gonna recommend something different. i personally prefer just2clean. it's exactly that. smooth, fast, and clean. honestly, of all the roms i've ever flashed, it's the only one that i've had absolutely zero issues with. i don't mind taking the time to install each program i really want. most of the other roms come with lots of extra programs that i have no use for, and can't delete, since there isn't an add/remove item for them... they're cooked in with the rom.
so really, it all just come down to your own preference. just check the herald rom development section. i think pureskillz (maybe?) did a write up on various roms and his pros and cons on each.
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yes that is true, but the point of trying different roms is seeing what programs and configs that you like the best, then after time ( how ever long the herald is around ) you will try a lite rom or clean rom and add the programs that you want to it... thats what im doing right now... there are a few that are great from the get go, but sometimes you dont need all that extra stuff...
that brings me back to the original question what do you want in the rom that you flash ??
thanks so much! This is exactly what I have been seeking... some kind of top-level context.
I love this community... and thank you for your personal recs as well.
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To OP: to make your pcm keyboard sticky, search for SIP change. This utility will automatically change to whatever SIP you choose after reboot so you don't have to manually select it.
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wow! thank you so much!
alongenemylines said:
most of the other roms come with lots of extra programs that i have no use for, and can't delete, since there isn't an add/remove item for them... they're cooked in with the rom.
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Another of my primary questions answered. Thanks so much! I was trying to learn the practical differences between apps cooks in, and installing cab files a la carte.
My own recap:
(1) YES, flash to a better ROM to free up memory, remove OEM junk
(2) There is no gallery of ROM photos of interfaces, but a great REVIEW thread of lots of ROMS
(3) Apps as part of the ROM makes them unremoveable.
(that recap's for other newbies like me!)
quicksite said:
Another of my primary questions answered. Thanks so much! I was trying to learn the practical differences between apps cooks in, and installing cab files a la carte.
My own recap:
(1) YES, flash to a better ROM to free up memory, remove OEM junk
(2) There is no gallery of ROM photos of interfaces, but a great REVIEW thread of lots of ROMS
(3) Apps as part of the ROM makes them unremoveable.
(that recap's for other newbies like me!)
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i have slide shows of 2 herald roms and 1 wizard rom in my sig...
right now im running pappamops rom and its very good, good to use right away, just a little tweaking, has alot of storage and its fast, plus you can dissable anything that you dont want to use right now( mainly Ultimate Launch ) you will need batterystatus ( you can disable the theme )... one of the best roms if you like to put your own stuff on the phone...
I know you all hear this stuff every day, so at the risk of sounding like an idiot....
I have spent several days reading through all the countless hundreds of posts on ROM mods, tweaks, etc. and I find my head swimming! I read through all the FAQ and Newbie threads on the board, and I must admit that despite it all, I still have so much I do not understand. Let me try to be direct.
I have almost no experience with registry editing and the last time I did any it was so long ago, that I forgot how to do it. I have literally zero experience with Windows Mobile OS. What I need to know is:
If any of you were buying a Leo now, as I am about to do, where would you start? What are the top three things (for example) that I should do to get the most performance out of the device? Can the Leo be used "stock" and actually function? I have heard so much about the dreaded SMS bug, etc. that I hesitate to pull the trigger, so I am just looking for some feedback, so I can proceed with the most caution. I don't want to brick my Leo, so I prefer to stay on the safe side, but I willing to push the envelope if needed to gain functionality.
For the record, I am coming from a Symbian background, and I have actually hacked my 60v5 device, so I can learn, but Windows is not comfortable for me. I am a Mac User, but I do have XP installed on my Mac via Bootcamp partition.
All this ROM flashing stuff seems pretty complicated!
I was in the same boat as you are, long time since windows mobile.
first day or two took alot of info in.
best thing to do.
start using it, once you find a problem or desire a feture then come here, and most likely someone had asked for the same thing.
I used the stock TMO hd2 for a couple of days with no problems except when i ported over all my old phones files the lag caused by excessive texts stored under a contact made opening texts or editing details for that contact really slow. I archived all my old text messages using the myphone feature and deleted them from my phone - now no problems. All the other apps and features were excellent, so once I got used to the phone I felt 'ready' to take on some tweaks.
If you need to edit the registry direct to utilise a tweak (in the event of there not being a CAB for it or whatnot) then I used a program called TRE which works like regedit on your pc. just remember all the values given are in decimal unless stated otherwise. From the Leo hints n tips sticky I personally used tips 14, 56, 62, 63 for the camera modes and tips 36, 37, 39, 65, to boost overall performance.
Lastly, if you dont get a youtube app with your phone (probably the case if youre with tmobile) then installing it seperately will currently stop the camera album videos from playing due to file conflicts, tho the youtube app itself will work. A way around this is to use a tweak to fool opera into letting youtubes site recognise you have a flash enabled browser, from this thread and do without the youtube app so you can still play videos in the album view. It all depends on what youre wanting to get out of your phone, and how you plan to use its features. Ive managed to get by without needing to flash to a different rom.
Also 2 apps to work together that I find indespensible is myplayer and coreplayer (though you could get tcpmp or whatever its called as the free alternative to the latter) so I can watch catchup tv.
Hope this helps!
i was like that before as well, but im getting the hang of things now, just installed hspl so hopefully when a newer rom version comes out i will be installin this
Like you I came from Symbian and it is very different!
There are some basic things missing that will annoy you but for the most part it is fine.
Install BSB Tweaks, this program as solved alot of my annoyances.
IMO u should use Xannytech ROM cause at least the free adjustments are all included (BSB too) + it's quite beautiful and I found only one but not very annoying bug.
As explorer I still think the Resco Explorer is the best (with Registry Editor).
I think that's all u need.
I'm in the same boat having come from iphone, I have no idea how it all works. I am trying to get my head around this registry editing at the moment and deciding whether or not to take the plunge :-/
The phone does work out of the box, but coming from an iphone I want to install a few apps/cabs such as converter, ebay etc. The guys on here have been very helpful indeed, although sometimes I need things explaining in numpty terms becasue I don't understand all the tech terms
I am from iphone background however.
many things that we are doing with the cabs and tweaks on this phone are not avalible with the iphone.
for example LED notification
task manager
task switcher.
camera \ video tweaks
player tweaks
etc
NetDwarf said:
IMO u should use Xannytech ROM cause at least the free adjustments are all included (BSB too) + it's quite beautiful and I found only one but not very annoying bug.
As explorer I still think the Resco Explorer is the best (with Registry Editor).
I think that's all u need.
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I have just looked into Resco explorer and there are 2 versions, windows mobile pocket PC, and windows mobile smartphone, which one works for the HD2. Also it's pretty pricey $19.95 I think, are there any free downloads?
Karlos G said:
Like you I came from Symbian and it is very different!
There are some basic things missing that will annoy you but for the most part it is fine.
Install BSB Tweaks, this program as solved alot of my annoyances.
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What exactly is BSB tweaks, and what is the latest version? I've found 1.10 and 1.6 so far
You do have a file explorer there already (very basic) , and a lot of people use total commander. TC is not very finger friendly, but you can edit the look of it in preferences.
I just got my phone last week and this is my first wm phone. I have been spending all my free time searching for apps and tweeks for my hd2 and found that the first thing to do is check out the offical uppdates on htc homepage.
After that i would suggest BsB tweeks and ram sweeper, Chainfire driver patch 1.1, NetC Framework 3.5 Resco explorer/regeditor, coreplayer and opera mini.
Gl hf!
I have just looked into Resco explorer and there are 2 versions, windows mobile pocket PC, and windows mobile smartphone, which one works for the HD2. Also it's pretty pricey $19.95 I think, are there any free downloads?
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You want the pocket pc version.
There are free file explorers (Total Commander) and registry editors (PHMEdit I think is one), do a search on the Leo parent forums for "file explorer" etc. or look on google, alternatively install a custom rom, some of which are bundled with the software
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What exactly is BSB tweaks, and what is the latest version? I've found 1.10 and 1.6 so far
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1.6 is the latest version
BsB Tweaks lets you configure some/most of the stuff in the Leo Hints and Tips forum sticky post without you having to go through the registry to do it yourself. Pretty slick. Also does some stuff that isn't in the sticky.
Can someone please give me a link to the BsB Tweaks?
I had artemis before my HD2, and never head of this page until i got my HD2.
Very easy is to install/upgrade ROM connect active sync, double clik on ROM file and 10 min later a new ROM is installed. I have not tried any of the Custom ROMs from here. Because i Like my Danish ROM.
Some of the Qustions from above can U find here ppcwarez.org Which was help full to me
Forgive me guys..
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Can someone please give me a link to the BsB Tweaks?
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Here is a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
Most things relating to the Leo can be found by searching the forum ( sometimes I find that it is quicker to do a Google Seach which then takes me to results within XDA).
The HD2 is a remarkable device. It's one of a kind. It is sad that even with such hardware, the manufacturers have limited its customizability...
Here are a few things which will enable any new owner to bring out the best in the phone without the fear of bricking...
Of course, there are more out there, but I have listed the most essential apps and tweaks. Feel free to add more as they come out.
1) Cookies Home Tab + Editor. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633590
2) cleanRAM (from Omarket). Excellent tool for freeing RAM memory. http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
3)BsB Tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
4)Opera Mobile 10 (get it from the official site)
5)Core Player
6)G-Alarm
7)Glossy task bars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642832
8)Resco Photo Manager
9)Battery indicator in % http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584772
I'm sure there are more out there but due to lack of time (okay...so I'm a bit lazy...) I couldn't list them.
So here are the 8 essential things!
first to click yes!
A thread like this has already been made, here.
The problem with most people who voted anything but "no" is because:
1) They stupidly fell for the 4.3 inch screen
2) Tinkering is not for them
3) Neglected to realize that it "just (Doesnt) work" like an iphone
4) They have too much problems because they stuck with the stock rom
5) They simply got a crappy HD2 from a horrible batch.
I give the benefit of the doubt and say, you got #5.
"Glossy task bars "
You feel that is essential?
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"Glossy task bars "
You feel that is essential?
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Well, I guess its just me, but having two black bars at both ends of a big screen didn't quiet appeal to me...
esstianal things i couldn't do with out on my HD2?
Well there is the speed tweaks. If you have a decent task amanger you have no need for cleanram so dutty's task manager (or something similar). Chainfires 3D driver is a just, as is LCS.
I couldn't go with out office 2010 either but i am intrigued by the choice of opera 10. last time i checked it didn't support pinch zoom so i'd have to say opera 9.7 (but i don't use flash sites that often)
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esstianal things i couldn't do with out on my HD2?
Well there is the speed tweaks. If you have a decent task amanger you have no need for cleanram so dutty's task manager (or something similar). Chainfires 3D driver is a just, as is LCS.
I couldn't go with out office 2010 either but i am intrigued by the choice of opera 10. last time i checked it didn't support pinch zoom so i'd have to say opera 9.7 (but i don't use flash sites that often)
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do you think the Chainfire driver is necessary for the US version of HD2? WHat is LCS?
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do you think the Chainfire driver is necessary for the US version of HD2? WHat is LCS?
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Yes and i'm bored of explaining what LCS is so find the search button and you're question will be answered.
opera 10 sucks big hairy donkey balls compared to 9.7
In my opinion anyway.
I think you should have included a registry editor in your list too.
Id find that far more useful on a daily basis than g alarm or resco photo manager, not saying they aren't worth having I just don't see them as essential.
to a certain extent i do agree with yur there, conantroutman, but i think that most "normal" users wouldn't need it. I do use my reg editor a lot but i'm a techie and a tweaker so i find it useful.
I did think of another essential program. The facebook v1.2 app from MS marketplace. It's much better than the stock one. I also missed out wifi remote access but it's at this point i feel like i'm covering out ground.
as already been told, duttys task manager is essencial... really... the first thing i would isntall is:
hotfixes from HTC
duttys taskmanager
enchansed TUrnOFF button
Core PLayer
Navigation Soft
Microsoft Net Framework 3.5
some custom BAR (already includes battery lfe in %) dependes again...
social network tools... (depends what u really use)
thats it.
I know this is shameless self-promotion, but the guide in my sig has what I consider must-have tweaks and apps.
- LMT. Using gestures to start programs.
- *A decent task manager.
- Norton Commander pocket, the freeware finger friendly beta (including ftp and registry editor)
- Uzard or Skyfire as backup flash browser.
- BSB tweaks. I love the 'add program to auto rotation' function amongst others, bringing rotation to many more programs.
- DroppedBoxx. to send to and store cabs and other files between my PC and phone.
- BatClock, display battery, signal strength, time and much more in the top bar.
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I also missed out wifi remote access but it's at this point i feel like i'm covering out ground.
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Isn't Remote Access a standard built-in app?
essential software
redflame4992 said:
The HD2 is a remarkable device. It's one of a kind. It is sad that even with such hardware, the manufacturers have limited its customizability...
Here are a few things which will enable any new owner to bring out the best in the phone without the fear of bricking...
Of course, there are more out there, but I have listed the most essential apps and tweaks. Feel free to add more as they come out.
Since I`m listening to music a lot I consider SRS WOW HD absolutely essential. It improves the sound quality and is a must especially while using A2DP profile.
Watch this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584626
regards phly-phantom
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Isn't Remote Access a standard built-in app?
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that's remote desktop. this little app allows you to make file transfer, registry changes etc over the wifi. no need for the cable.
I have ordered a HD2, should come in a couple days.
The "Sense UI" that HTC has layered above the regular WM 6.5 UI, is supposed to be "easier to use".
I believe I have read somewhere though, that it is possible to turn off the Sense UI, and just use the normal WM interface.
I am a long time WM user, having used PPCs and phones using WM 2003, WM5, and WM 6.1. I have preferred Today Screen applets, know how I like to configure WM, etc. So for me, I don't think the Sense UI would be "easier", but something new I would have to learn how to use, while I am already very familiar with the WM interface.
For those readers who were very used to WM before getting the HD2, how many have stuck with the Sense UI, and how many have set it to only use WM? Reasons for your choice?
Does the "Sense UI" have any benefits besides supposedly being "easier", eye candy, and the like? If so, what are they?
Any disadvantages to Sense? I assume it is using additional memory, so that would leave less memory available to apps, correct? Is it more prone to crashes, etc.?
Also, on looking at an HD2 in the store, there are many icons for things I have no interest in--a Blockbuster app, etc. With WinMo, I know how to remove programs, remove items from the start menu, etc. Is it easy to remove stuff like that from the Sense UI? How?
In general, I would like to hear from experienced WinMo users, who got the HD2, what they consider to be advantages and disadvantages of using "Sense UI", and how many have kept it, and how many have reverted to WinMo?
Thanks for your input.
Personally, I am quite likeing Sense. I come from a long line of both WM Professional and Standard devices, so I know and have used more than likely 5 different UI's in my time, and Sense is laregly indeed the easiest to use. I really liked Titanium....until I used Sense on the HD2.
If you have used TouchFLO in the past, then you have used Sense...and I can tell you, don't let the horrible sluggishness of TF make you instantly hate on Sense...I for one am converted. I HATED TF. Slow, buggy, hard to use TouchFLO. Sense fixes pretty much everything that sucked about TF.
Sense is actually VERY customizable. I personally use CoOkie's Home Tab 1.8.5(?) and it lets you customize nearly every part of the Sense experience. You can change the colors of items, the location, how many quick links, the clock style, the buttons on the ribbon...basically anything.
The links you mentioned(Blockbuster etc) can indeed be changed just by tapping and holding. You can make basically anything on your device a quick link on the homescreen through CHT.
As far as memory is concerned, the HD2 has an ample supply of RAM, usually around 280MB free upon boot, and disabling Sense doesn't really gain you all that much. If 476MB of RAM is not enough...well then something is wrong. As far as processing power is concerned, I do not really see a gain nor loss between Titanium/Today/Sense.
All in all, if you want to use Today plugins, then use the standard Today screen. If you want a UI that is a little easier to use one handed, then use Titanium or Sense.
Thanks for the reply, Ashasaur.
I have never used TouchFlo nor Titanium, but only regular WM. Therefore, comparisons with those other UIs mean nothing to me.
I would only like to know what advantages or disadvantages Sense UI might have compared to the regular WM 6.5 interface. (As I wrote, the latter would not be new to me, having used many WM devices, including 6.1.)
How does Sense make it easier to use the phone one-handed?
In the following thread, a user complains of many crashes with Sense:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740367
Are many users experiencing that?
By the way, if I decide to revert to the WM interface, without Sense, how do I do that?
Ah, I see that I mis-read your OP. The main disadvantage that Sense has I suppose is expanability. You had mentioned about using Today screen plugins, and under Sense this is simply not possible, as it is also not possible under Titanium. They both use a different type of plugin. Plugins do indeed exist for Sense, but what those are and what kinds that exist I am not sure of.
To revert back to Sense is as easy, and more or less the same process as switching to the normal UI. Simply goto Start->Settings->Today->Items and uncheck "HTC Sense", then check "Windows Default" in order to use the regular WM Today screen. Simply reverse the process to go back to Sense.
As far as crashes are concerned, I won't lie...I have had several, but most have been from me doing something stupid. As far as Sense crashing on it's own, so far I have not had that happen.
In my opinion Sense makes one handed operation easier because it aggragates all your basic Today screen functions onto the ribbon. It's kind of hard to explain, but you can scroll through the entire ribbon within less than an inch of moving your finger. So basically, from the "home" tab of Sense, you could literally scroll your finger 3/8 of an inch and be at the "mail" tab to check email, then back 1/4 of an inch to "messages" to check SMS. It really is something that you need to experience for yourself in order to understand. Over scrolling will happen at first, but as you use the device you will learn just how far to scroll to get to just the right tab.
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To revert back to Sense is as easy, and more or less the same process as switching to the normal UI. Simply goto Start->Settings->Today->Items and uncheck "HTC Sense", then check "Windows Default" in order to use the regular WM Today screen. Simply reverse the process to go back to Sense.
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Now that I have my HD2, I don't see how this is possible.
Because--I don't see any Today listing in Settings on the HD2. (I know of that Today screen setting from the regular Windows Mobile settings. But Sense has its own settings, and does not include anything about Today Screens.
How can I get to that setting?????
You are right, Sense has it's own settings...which is the wrong place to look heh. You have to go through the way I listed. Start->SETTINGS(not Manilla Settings)->Today->Then the "Items" tab, then follow my directions. Now, depending on what version of the stock ROM you are running, the regular WM settings icon may not be available under the Start menu, but you can also get there by scrolling over to settings through Sense, then hit the right softkey and press "All Settings" to get to the same place.
EDIT-I may not have understood your post exactly right. You might not see the "Today" settings under settings on the stock ROM. You will need to apply a CAB that enables hidden settings to be shown, but I do not remember what this CAB is called, nor where I got it. All I remember is that it came from the "Apps and Themes" subforum of the Leo section.
Thanks again, Ashosaur.
I finally found that Today setting, after I found that "All Settings" Button, and I disabled the "Sense" today screen.
Only after doing that, and rebooting afterwards was I able to run Sprite Backup. It will install, but apparently not run at all, with Sense.
Even after doing that, removing the Sense today item, it is still not completely like Windows Mobile. Other settings are missing, for instance--the text size, color, and fonts, cleartype tuner, etc.
And you don't get a regular Windows Mobile Start Menu, but still that crazy Sense one.
Any way to get completely back like Win Mo?
I haven't completely given up on Sense either. Some nice things about it. Very buggy though. I've had to reset several times. As said, Sprite Backup, the industry leader in mobile backup software, newest version, would not start at all with Sense!
HTC should get its act together and fix the bugs!
The Start menu will always look like that. It's not Sense, it's WM 6.5. As far as I know its the only Start menu type available for 6.5.
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Thanks again, Ashosaur.
I finally found that Today setting, after I found that "All Settings" Button, and I disabled the "Sense" today screen.
Only after doing that, and rebooting afterwards was I able to run Sprite Backup. It will install, but apparently not run at all, with Sense.
Even after doing that, removing the Sense today item, it is still not completely like Windows Mobile. Other settings are missing, for instance--the text size, color, and fonts, cleartype tuner, etc.
And you don't get a regular Windows Mobile Start Menu, but still that crazy Sense one.
Any way to get completely back like Win Mo?
I haven't completely given up on Sense either. Some nice things about it. Very buggy though. I've had to reset several times. As said, Sprite Backup, the industry leader in mobile backup software, newest version, would not start at all with Sense!
HTC should get its act together and fix the bugs!
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You might try looking at a new ROM. Read through the tutorial in the forum your phone belongs to (T-MoUS or Euro) and it will tell you everything you need to know. Try a Miri ROM or an Energy ROM. Both work very smooth and much faster than stock. Stock ROM the phone came with is known to be slow and buggy. You shouldnt have to disable sense to install Sprite. Thats just an issue with your stock ROM. GL!
I'm using a T-Mobile HD2 with stock ROM. Its not proving buggy or problematic in any way. And I haven't had any crashes with Sense. BTW with sense to get at all settings you swipe right to get the Sense settings tab, tap the menu item at bottom right, and choose all settings.
I think BSB tweaks can also turn on the standard Win Mobile settings menu. Perhaps other aspects as well.
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Sense is actually VERY customizable. I personally use CoOkie's Home Tab 1.8.5(?) and it lets you customize nearly every part of the Sense experience. .
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First of all, thanks a lot for the recommendation about CHT. The thread about that app really should be a sticky on this forum. It really is a must-have.
I disagree with your first sentence above, at least from what I have seen so far.
I didn't find Sense (without CHT) very customizable at all. Quite the contrary.
But adding CHT makes all the difference. Thanks for the recommendation.
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First of all, thanks a lot for the recommendation about CHT. The thread about that app really should be a sticky on this forum. It really is a must-have.
I disagree with your first sentence above, at least from what I have seen so far.
I didn't find Sense (without CHT) very customizable at all. Quite the contrary.
But adding CHT makes all the difference. Thanks for the recommendation.
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I think what he means is that sense is able to be highly customized via tweaks and tools such as CHT and others...to be made to look and behave in ways that no other mobile UI could match. However, one that does come close to being as versatile is SPB Mobile Shell. It's a paid app with a free trial you can check out...some users consider it the only real alternative to Sense.