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To return to stock I was wondering if it was better to use odin or the One Click Recovery.
Do they both do the same thing?
Is one better than the other?
Thanks
Odin is only true way to go back to stock
rjmjr69 said:
Odin is only true way to go back to stock
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I know odin completely wipes everything... if i just wanted to flash a new rom and kernel would that still be the way to go?
Maadj said:
I know odin completely wipes everything... if i just wanted to flash a new rom and kernel would that still be the way to go?
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You need Recovery to change your Roms. Odin won't do that. If you looking to flash Roms, One Click by noobnl. If you wanna go back to Factory. Odin.
so then in all the threads when they say wipe everything they mean the clockwork recovery stuff. not a system wipe
Simple explination: When they say wipe, they mean inside of clockwork recovery you choose the option to wipe the cache, it would be like formatting a hard drive before you install a new windows os, u want to make sure all the old files and disk errors are gone. Same thing here, the cache is where the data/settings are stored.
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awesome guys.. thanks for all your help
Not to be mean but no cache does not wipe your data. It's the equivalent to clearing cache on your browser. When a rom thread calls for a wipe they mean wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, and go to advanced wipe dalvik cache.
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I don't know about the whole format thing... guess you look at it that way. It only clears a part, and there's a few of those. But when you wipe your clearing all your data and setting. Each rom is built different. So in some cases you'll need to wipe to make sure nothing from the previous messes you up. The OP (thread starter) of the rom will say when to wipe. Should always wipe between roms. Cool thing is, you can advance restore your stuff back. ; ) or Titanium Backup. But something will alway catch you off guard or you'll forget. So have multi ways of backup. In clockwork you will see back up (Nand Backup as they call it), this backs everything up, if you mess up you can always go back like it was with restore. Have fun and don't let it piss you off.
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With respect a454nova it should be clearer than that. If a rom says to wipe, the clockwork recovery probably should not be used to restore data because the ROM poster is probably putting something in data along with changing the system files. Titanium can be used judiciously to restore data files but only with full knowledge of what the OP has put in the data directory. Best practice is to use listables and download everything new then restore only items that could not be downloaded from the market
I am going from Autonootered 1.1 to the latest nightly CM7 with Dalgrins Kernel using CWM
Please advise
1. Before installing CM7 what all should I wipe / format
2. After installing CM7 and kernel what all should I wipe/format
Also when I update to a newer nightly later
1. Before installing the newer nightly what all should I wipe / format
2. After installing newer nightly what all should I wipe/format
3. When updating to a newer nightly do I nned to install Dalgrins kernel again
Thanks very much
Anyone ? would appreciate some help
Whenever I try to install a new nightly I have to wipe everything. If I don't all the apps when I try to open them just flash real quick then close. I have titanium backup so its not very hard restoring sense I can just restore all apps + data which makes it a very painless process.
In the Nook General forum user eyeballer has an excellent step-by-step guide for installing CM7. Follow his directions and you will be fine. In general, you do not need to do a complete wipe of everything to install CM7 or to update between versions of CM7.
Guys I tried searching and only found this thread
which didn't help me at all
Can someone please explain when to do each of the following?
Reformat
Wipe Data
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik
I want to have the cleanest install, so do I do all?
Thanks
I will give thanks to all that help me clarify when to use what in what combination
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Guys I tried searching and only found this thread
which didn't help me at all
Can someone please explain when to do each of the following?
Reformat
Wipe Data
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik
I want to have the cleanest install, so do I do all?
Thanks
I will give thanks to all that help me clarify when to use what in what combination
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If you look in my tips thread linked in my signature, I explain what you need to wipe in what situation. But I will explain just a little here.
Ordinarily if you are moving from just one nightly to another nightly of the same rom, just wipe dalvik cache.
If you are moving from one type of rom to another, it is best to do just a factory reset. A factory reset wipes /data, /cache and clears any apps you installed to SD. (And a factory reset automatically wipes dalvik cache since it is located in /data and /cache.)
Never wipe /boot and the new rom automatically wipes /system so you should not have to ordinarily wipe that.
But I have found if you are moving from a CM rom back to stock you need to do a full format with my format zip in my tips thread. It formats /system, /data and /cache completely where using CWM does not.
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1.Ordinarily if you are moving from just one nightly to another nightly of the same rom, just wipe dalvik cache.
2. If you are moving. from one type of rom to another, it is best to do just a factory reset.
3. A factory reset wipes /data, /cache and clears any apps you installed to SD. (And a factory reset automatically wipes dalvik cache since it is located in /data and /cache.)
4. Never wipe /boot and the new rom automatically wipes /system so you should not have to ordinarily wipe that.
5. But I have found if you are moving from a CM rom back to stock you need to do a full format with my format zip in my tips thread. It formats /system, /data and /cache completely where using CWM does not.
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Thanks so much, I left you a thanks as well
can you explain 2 & 3 again? I have CWM. Is a factory reset same as wiping data? Thanks
Edit: Darn, only limited to 8 thanks per day, I'll get you back tomorrow
eyecon82 said:
Thanks so much, I left you a thanks as well
can you explain 2 & 3 again? I have CWM. Is a factory reset same as wiping data? Thanks
Edit: Darn, only limited to 8 thanks per day, I'll get you back tomorrow
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Wipe is the same as formatting.
Factory reset is listed in CWM as 'factory reset/wipe data'. And it is shown on the main menu. It does what I said earlier, it wipes /data, /cache and clears apps installed to SD.
Wipe dalvik is shown in CWM in the 'advanced' menu.
Those wipes or formats that are shown in CWM under 'mounts and storage' should rarely be used.
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leapinlar said:
Wipe is the same as formatting.
Factory reset is listed in CWM as 'factory reset/wipe data'. And it is shown on the main menu. It does what I said earlier, it wipes /data, /cache and clears apps installed to SD.
Wipe dalvik is shown in CWM in the 'advanced' menu.
Those wipes or formats that are shown in CWM under 'mounts and storage' should rarely be used.
Sent from my Nook Color running CM10 and Tapatalk.
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wow, thank you so much! you have been a great help
Quick off-topic question:
I have the rooted STOCK ROM and I deleted/edited some system files. Should I revert back to a nandroid back up with the system files in tact, or should I be ok to flash the new official rooted JB ROM (when it comes out) with some system files missing and/or renamed? thanks =)
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Quick off-topic question:
I have the rooted STOCK ROM and I deleted/edited some system files. Should I revert back to a nandroid back up with the system files in tact, or should I be ok to flash the new official rooted JB ROM (when it comes out) with some system files missing and/or renamed? thanks =)
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If you are going to flash the new JB ROM over the top of stock, you do not have to do anything to the stock ROM first. It will be wiped entirely by the new JB ROM as it is installed. But I would do a factory reset/wipe data first as I said in my earlier post.
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If you are going to flash the new JB ROM over the top of stock, you do not have to do anything to the stock ROM first. It will be wiped entirely by the new JB ROM as it is installed. But I would do a factory reset/wipe data first as I said in my earlier post.
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Oh ok, thanks! So, just to re-affirm, I don't have to revert back to a STOCK ROM with system files unedited in order to flash JB?
Before flashing JB rom, I will absolutely wipe data, cache, and dalvik prior to flashing! Thanks! :cyclops:
eyecon82 said:
Oh ok, thanks! So, just to re-affirm, I don't have to revert back to a STOCK ROM with system files unedited in order to flash JB?
Before flashing JB rom, I will absolutely wipe data, cache, and dalvik prior to flashing! Thanks! :cyclops:
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No, no, no. Are you not reading my posts? You do not wipe data, cache, and dalvik when you install a new ROM. Just do a 'factory reset/wipe data'. That wipes everything for you. The other wipes are redundant!
And to re-iterate, you have to do NOTHING to stock before flashing the JB ROM. Leave it exactly as is.
Sent from my Nook Color running CM10 and Tapatalk.
leapinlar said:
No, no, no. Are you not reading my posts? You do not wipe data, cache, and dalvik when you install a new ROM. Just do a 'factory reset/wipe data'. That wipes everything for you. The other wipes are redundant!
And to re-iterate, you have to do NOTHING to stock before flashing the JB ROM. Leave it exactly as is.
Sent from my Nook Color running CM10 and Tapatalk.
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Thanks. I got you now. I was just in a habit of doing that before. Even if it was redundant
leapinlar said:
If you look in my tips thread linked in my signature, I explain what you need to wipe in what situation. But I will explain just a little here.
Ordinarily if you are moving from just one nightly to another nightly of the same rom, just wipe dalvik cache.
If you are moving from one type of rom to another, it is best to do just a factory reset. A factory reset wipes /data, /cache and clears any apps you installed to SD. (And a factory reset automatically wipes dalvik cache since it is located in /data and /cache.)
Never wipe /boot and the new rom automatically wipes /system so you should not have to ordinarily wipe that.
But I have found if you are moving from a CM rom back to stock you need to do a full format with my format zip in my tips thread. It formats /system, /data and /cache completely where using CWM does not.
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Can I pick your brain a little bit?
I had an odd thing happen to me......I rooted and went all delete-happy and deleted a bunch of stuff from system/app without making a nandroid backup...of course stuff stopped working properly, so I downloaded the stock rom rooted and flashed that (with wiping data, cache, and dalvik---even though wiping cache and davlik is unncessary as you explained), but those files I deleted were still missing
The only way I got them back was to do what is listed here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1904099) and start all over from a non rooted state
Any idea why? If I would have flashed the rooted stock ROM, wouldn't it have wiped my /system too?
PS: I'm reading your tips thread now....just got off work
eyecon82 said:
Can I pick your brain a little bit?
I had an odd thing happen to me......I rooted and went all delete-happy and deleted a bunch of stuff from system/app without making a nandroid backup...of course stuff stopped working properly, so I downloaded the stock rom rooted and flashed that (with wiping data, cache, and dalvik---even though wiping cache and davlik is unncessary as you explained), but those files I deleted were still missing
The only way I got them back was to do what is listed here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1904099) and start all over from a non rooted state
Any idea why? If I would have flashed the rooted stock ROM, wouldn't it have wiped my /system too?
PS: I'm reading your tips thread now....just got off work
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You said you downloaded the 'stock rom rooted'. Where did you get that? Also as I explained in my tips thread, sometimes CWM does not wipe things as cleanly as it should. I cannot explain why. In those circumstances I flash my format zip from my tips thread. I suspect that that rom you said you downloaded that you said was rooted was not set up to format the /system.
Also that link you quoted does not work so I can't look at that page.
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You said you downloaded the 'stock rom rooted'. Where did you get that? Also as I explained in my tips thread, sometimes CWM does not wipe things as cleanly as it should. I cannot explain why. In those circumstances I flash my format zip from my tips thread. I suspect that that rom you said you downloaded that you said was rooted was not set up to format the /system.
Also that link you quoted does not work so I can't look at that page.
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I flashed this rooted STOCK ROM, the first link in the OP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743923)?
but that didn't work, so I started all over using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099
I hope the links work for you now
EDIT: MY THANKS WORK NOW, SO I THANKED YOU FOR ALL THE POSTS =)
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I flashed this rooted STOCK ROM, the first link in the OP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743923)?
but that didn't work, so I started all over using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099
I hope the links work for you now
EDIT: MY THANKS WORK NOW, SO I THANKED YOU FOR ALL THE POSTS =)
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You flashed Samsung roms to your Nook Color? This is a Nook Color forum. All the stuff I have been telling you applies to the Nook Color and the CWM built for the Nook Color. Are you on another device?
leapinlar said:
You flashed Samsung roms to your Nook Color? This is a Nook Color forum. All the stuff I have been telling you applies to the Nook Color and the CWM built for the Nook Color. Are you on another device?
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crap! lol...I mean to post for SGSIII...sorry for hijacking this thread
I truly am sorry, I just did a search, which landed me to this, but I ended up hijacking it
eyecon82 said:
crap! lol...I mean to post for SGSIII...sorry for hijacking this thread
I truly am sorry, I just did a search, which landed me to this, but I ended up hijacking it
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LOL, well I learned something here. If users start asking questions that do not quite jib with having a Nook Color, I had better ask more questions before I start spouting stuff. I am really glad I added assert statements to my zips to make sure the user is on a Nook Color before the flash will attempt to install. It could have been a real disaster for you if you had tried to flash my format partitions zip on your SGIII and it was allowed to install. I am going to make sure I have that assert statement in every zip I make, just to protect users.
But most of what I told you about CWM should apply to the SGIII version of CWM.
leapinlar said:
Wipe is the same as formatting.
Factory reset is listed in CWM as 'factory reset/wipe data'. And it is shown on the main menu. It does what I said earlier, it wipes /data, /cache and clears apps installed to SD.
Wipe dalvik is shown in CWM in the 'advanced' menu.
Those wipes or formats that are shown in CWM under 'mounts and storage' should rarely be used.
Sent from my Nook Color running CM10 and Tapatalk.
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So wipe and format are the same?
Why do they have them listed separately in the first place in CWM if they do the same thing?
Thanks.
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leapinlar said:
LOL, well I learned something here. If users start asking questions that do not quite jib with having a Nook Color, I had better ask more questions before I start spouting stuff. I am really glad I added assert statements to my zips to make sure the user is on a Nook Color before the flash will attempt to install. It could have been a real disaster for you if you had tried to flash my format partitions zip on your SGIII and it was allowed to install. I am going to make sure I have that assert statement in every zip I make, just to protect users.
But most of what I told you about CWM should apply to the SGIII version of CWM.
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True. Even though I got off topic for the sgsiii thing most of my questions are universal to all devices
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I can reboot into Bootloader, but when I try to boot into Recovery it kicks me back into bootloader. Im using Rom Manager and Clockworks. Any suggestions? Thanks for the help.
Use amon-ra its 10 times better than clockwordmod just download this http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=PC36IMG.zip
drag it to sd card and go to into bootloader thern fastboot and it should say update
Step one, get rid of Rom Manager.
Step Two, flash Amon Ra.
Fixed....
That did it. Thanks guys. Follow up question..do I do a full wipe or Delvick- Cache wipe when flashing Roms? Im used to letting ROM Manager do everything for me that im not 100% sure.
Do a full wipe User Data/Factory reset, then wipe each sub-category, EXCEPT SD Card.
Heck, I re-wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache twice.
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That did it. Thanks guys. Follow up question..do I do a full wipe or Delvick- Cache wipe when flashing Roms? Im used to letting ROM Manager do everything for me that im not 100% sure.
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No sweat any time bro
I know there's a lot of info on this subject, but im still confused about a few things related to simply updating to a new version of same rom.
some says i have to wipe all, clear cache and dalvik cache every time, others talk about dirty updating which i guess is without wipe, but do i still need to clear cache and dalvik, or just dalvik cache?, and do i have to flash gapps every time i just upgrade same rom?
like going from 2.50 > the latest 2.52, what i did was:
1. downloaded both pa_grouper-2.52-27OCT2012-190304.zip, and gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip and put them in root of my nexus 7
2. went to goomanager and clicked "flash ROMs", where i selected my grouper-2.52-27OCT2012-190304.zip, clicked "Order and flash selected" and on next screen checkmarked "Wipe cache/dalvik cache partition"
3. clicked flash, and waited..
4. did same procedure (step 2 and 3) with the gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip and now im not sure if that all i needed to do, or if there's something i don't have to do next time there a minor update.. or can i skip wipe cache?, or skip flashing gapps (unless there's a newer version of gapps)?
thanks for any answers
-Deco
My steps:
Flash new PA rom
Flash Gapps
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik
Reboot.
Never had a problem
Jordanooo said:
My steps:
Flash new PA rom
Flash Gapps
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik
Reboot.
Never had a problem
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but i still wonder if it's needed to wipe cache/dalvik because it seems to remove some login info fx. in gmail, wallpaper and such, and if it's not needed, then i might as well not do that
-Deco
If you dont wipe them, it can cause troubles.
Also, it shouldnt affect anything, doesnt for me
Edit: Gapps must be flashed everytime for PA. Forgot to mention that
Jordanooo said:
If you dont wipe them, it can cause troubles.
Also, it shouldnt affect anything, doesnt for me
Edit: Gapps must be flashed everytime for PA. Forgot to mention that
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Found this thread by searching.
I have a question. When you upgrade the ROM, and do all the steps listed above, does this also save the installed apps on the device?
zakafx said:
Found this thread by searching.
I have a question. When you upgrade the ROM, and do all the steps listed above, does this also save the installed apps on the device?
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Yes. Flashing the rom, then gapps, wiping cache and dalvik doesnt wipe any apps or apps data
Hi,
Coming from PureNexus, I wanted to give CM13 a try. Made a nandroid backup so none of my data is lost, and put that backup on pc. I installed CM13 which went fine. It stopped at the CM booting animation and did not go further, so I cleanflashed Purenexus to restore my backup later on. Now PureNexus won't boot either. I'm out of ideas to try, and I want to get my phone back up and running ASAP.
Can anyone help me with this issue?
Riyge said:
Can anyone help me with this issue?
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When you clean flashed, did you also wipe system? If you did and you're still hung at boot, your best bet would be to flash the factory images via fastboot and start fresh.
Riyge said:
Hi,
Coming from PureNexus, I wanted to give CM13 a try. Made a nandroid backup so none of my data is lost, and put that backup on pc. I installed CM13 which went fine. It stopped at the CM booting animation and did not go further, so I cleanflashed Purenexus to restore my backup later on. Now PureNexus won't boot either. I'm out of ideas to try, and I want to get my phone back up and running ASAP.
Can anyone help me with this issue?
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Are you wiping properly (system, data, cache, dalvik cache) before installing a ROM? Are you making sure you flash the appropriate vendor image after flashing the ROM? When you made your backup which options did you check? And which options are you restoring?
Heisenberg said:
Are you wiping properly (system, data, cache, dalvik cache) before installing a ROM? Are you making sure you flash the appropriate vendor image after flashing the ROM? When you made your backup which options did you check? And which options are you restoring?
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When I try to wipe, it's only wiping cache for some reason. My backup consists of everything except cache.
Riyge said:
When I try to wipe, it's only wiping cache for some reason. My backup consists of everything except cache.
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What do you mean it's only wiping cache? Explain to me how you're doing the wipe. Also, when creating a backup (and restoring it) you should only be selecting system, data, boot, and vendor.
PS. You didn't answer my question about whether you're flashing the vendor after flashing the ROM. If you want help you need to answer the questions that are asked.
Heisenberg said:
What do you mean it's only wiping cache? Explain to me how you're doing the wipe. Also, when creating a backup (and restoring it) you should only be selecting system, data, boot, and vendor.
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I'll keep that in mind. When I boot up TRWP, I wiped system, dalvik, data, internal storage and cache. After that I pushed CM13 through adb. That's where the problems started.
EDIT: I flashed the most recent vendor after I flashed the ROM.
Riyge said:
I'll keep that in mind. When I boot up TRWP, I wiped system, dalvik, data, internal storage and cache. After that I pushed CM13 through adb. That's where the problems started.
EDIT: I flashed the most recent vendor after I flashed the ROM.
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Ok, you definitely don't need to wipe internal storage before flashing so don't worry about that part. Only system, data, cache, and dalvik cache. You said before only cache was being wiped, can you please elaborate on that?
Are you sure the ROM zip didn't become corrupt during the download? Did you check the MD5 to ensure that it didn't? That could be what's causing your problems. Also, what gapps are you flashing?
If you want to go back to Pure Nexus just to get your phone working you can just restore that backup, just make sure you only restore system, data, boot, and vendor.
Heisenberg said:
Ok, you definitely don't need to wipe internal storage before flashing so don't worry about that part. Only system, data, cache, and dalvik cache. You said before only cache was being wiped, can you please elaborate on that?
Are you sure the ROM zip didn't become corrupt during the download? Did you check the MD5 to ensure that it didn't? That could be what's causing your problems. Also, what gapps are you flashing?
If you want to go back to Pure Nexus just to get your phone working you can just restore that backup, just make sure you only restore system, data, boot, and vendor.
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It won't wipe anything other than cache, no matter what I'm trying to do. Now when I'm trying to push a ROM through adb, I can install it but it won't boot.
Riyge said:
It won't wipe anything other than cache, no matter what I'm trying to do. Now when I'm trying to push a ROM through adb, I can install it but it won't boot.
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I'm trying to help you here but if you keep failing to answer my questions it's impossible for me to do so. At this point I can only think that it's user error, I'd flash the factory images to return to stock and start fresh. I have detailed instructions in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Heisenberg said:
I'm trying to help you here but if you keep failing to answer my questions it's impossible for me to do so. At this point I can only think that it's user error, I'd flash the factory images to return to stock and start fresh. I have detailed instructions in my guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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I found your guide by googling, thanks for making that! Flashing the factory image worked, and I succesfully restored my backup. The only problem left is that it won't accept my pattern lock. I have used the same one for years across multiple android devices, so I'm absolutely sure I have the right pattern. Any way to bypass this?
Riyge said:
I found your guide by googling, thanks for making that! Flashing the factory image worked, and I succesfully restored my backup. The only problem left is that it won't accept my pattern lock. I have used the same one for years across multiple android devices, so I'm absolutely sure I have the right pattern. Any way to bypass this?
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You need to remove all security before making a backup because the security information is encrypted and doesn't get backed up or restored properly. You can delete some files using TWRP (see section 3 of my guide) in order to remove the security so you can get into Android. This will cause problems with Smart Lock though.
Heisenberg said:
You need to remove all security before making a backup because the security information is encrypted and doesn't get backed up or restored properly. You can delete some files using TWRP (see section 3 of my guide) in order to remove the security so you can get into Android. This will cause problems with Smart Lock though.
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Tried that, fixed my phone. Thanks so much! Is it possible to restore these functions or should I clean flash to get it?
Riyge said:
Tried that, fixed my phone. Thanks so much! Is it possible to restore these functions or should I clean flash to get it?
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I'd be clean flashing.