[Q] About recording videos - Galaxy S I9000 General

Hi,
i'm going to buy Galaxy S in few days (or weeks). I know it's not perfect phone but most of bad sides seems minor to me. But... i like recording videos. I've recently had Samsung Wave and it's video recording was superb. Galaxy doesn't record sound in videos as good as Wave. Any iPhone record better sound that Galaxy. So here's the question: is there any possible way to make Galaxy record better sound? I mean full spectrum with 44,1khz and without all of cracking? From what i saw all android phones record only 16khz audio. Do you think there is any chance to get better audio codec from google or samsung (now or later)?

seems rather a configuration issue, not so much as the codec
the codec is there already else it wont record sound at all
it is a matter of tweaking the codec to allow CD quality recording which is what you want.
it'll probably use more CPU power and more storage space, also more battery power
the programers that did the build in software in SGS must have figured for the average user 16Khz is a happy medium
I'm sure there will be 3rd party Recording software, where you can select the quality that you want from the App itself.
you can try checking Android Market.

Yeah, i hope there will be some 3rd party soft to do that.
Going up to 44.1khz shouldn't be so hard (Wave have the same hardwave so Galaxy S is capable to do that) but i wonder what's with that cranking in noisy env.

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Improving video recording

On the original releases of the legend build for hero the camera app gave you the option to record in wvga video capture. The video capture failed and only the sound remained. With tweaking could this be put on the more able overclocked roms and made to work.
therevell said:
On the original releases of the legend build for hero the camera app gave you the option to record in wvga video capture. The video capture failed and only the sound remained. With tweaking could this be put on the more able overclocked roms and made to work.
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Hmm. I'm not sure what you mean by WVGA. Do you mean xxx by 480? As I don't remember any ROM working with this.
I think 352x288 is the limit, likely for a good reason
Our hero has to compress the video on the CPU while recording. More than anything CIF or alike is really the limit to get watchable video.
The legend isn't really that much higher in CPU power (cpu's are comparible), but it has enhanced video support for encoding video on the SoC, which is most likely used in the camera app.
That also explains why we get no video at all in the hero without changing anything, it tries to use a library / hardware chip that isn't there.
slightly off the main point, but is there a way of gaining better audio quality out of the vidoes? i really despise muffled 'amr' quality sound that the hero has. or am i missing something?

Bad audio in video recording

I noticed after coming from recording something with live music: the nexus ones audio recording quality SUCKS! I say this because my friend recorded the same thing with his palm pre, and its much nicer on the ears. I was reading something about the nexus using the inferior amr codec for the audio portion of the video, and was wondering with the new 720p hacks was this overcome...

Is fixing the EVO's camcorder encoding feasible?

It's known that the EVO's video recording bitrate is low, but what seems less known is that the audio for the EVO's video's are encoded at 8kHz using (what seems like) the AMR telephony codec. Hence, the audio sounds like crap.
As I know nothing about Android software development, I just wanted to ask if its even possible for a real developer to A) mod the current EVO's video recording app to have better A/V encoding or B) develop a 3rd party camcorder app for the EVO have has better or adjustable quality settings?
for use that have the samsung moment we added things in the build.prop and changed the code there if you guys have the same thing you can try that. im not sure.

Poor Video Audio Sound

I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
we should have an online petition for this! video recording in mp4 with aac audio!
3rd party recording apps maybe?
Online petition doesn't work anyways.
Sent via psychic transmittion.
Well i sent htc a couple of emails, stating that the audio quality for video is even overshadowed by nokia phones which are 6 years old, why they still use dreadfull audio when literally every other phone on the market from iphones, nokia's sony erricson's all have higher quality audio recording. I find it hard to believe they have done it because of performance issues, most digital camcorders dont have 1ghz processors and they can do it hands down. HTC are still using the same old rubbish low quality audio thats been around on their pda phones since windows mobile 5. It's time to move on, and if its for compatiblity, well how many people send 20 min HD 720p multimedia messages? when no network carriers even support formats or resolutions like that. I think its misleading and false advertising for HTC promoting this phone as having all this great video quality 8mega pixel cam and HD video to completely let us down with zx spectrum like audio quality. What where the HTC designers even thinking is beyond me. Why do they let iphone and nokia, samsung completley walk all over them in the audio department.
stephenuk said:
I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
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If ubought this phone now your are doomed... You shoulda have waited for htc sensation... Its much better then htc desire hd...its releasing in 1st week of may.. If you can return it.. I think you should.. And if you want loud sound then there is a topic jyst beliw yours abt sound... try it.. I did and now I have 70% more loud ness in my phone...
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Leather|Face said:
If ubought this phone now your are doomed... You shoulda have waited for htc sensation... Its much better then htc desire hd...its releasing in 1st week of may.. If you can return it.. I think you should.. And if you want loud sound then there is a topic jyst beliw yours abt sound... try it.. I did and now I have 70% more loud ness in my phone...
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I disagree that the Sensation is way better than the Desire HD. Yes it is an evolution of the DHD, but in terms of user experience the phones are still very similar. I won't be upgrading because i dont really think the Sensation is too much of an upgrade (bar newer processor).
With that said, OP, i think you'll be very happy to know that the new Gingerbread update coming anytime now will have LARGELY improved audio. It will have sampling rate of 44.1 KHz and 128 Kbps bitrate. This is confirmed in the leaked version in the development section, i've seen a recording and the sound is way better.
Now one area i cant argue with however is the loudspeaker on the DHD. It's terrible. Maybe the Sensation is better there.
stephenuk said:
I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
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First of all 3gp is a container, not a codec. In that container you'll find the same codecs for the audio and video streams like in the mp4 container used by other camcoders - namely h264 for the video and aac for the audio. The poor quality is due to the codec settings used by the application - 8kHz, 32kbps. Why they did that is beyond me. Maybe the frequency response of the microphone is limited to 4kHz and if this is the case, neither Gingerbread, nor Zebra Cake will fix that.
The micropone can record in pristine 44.1khz quality try using tape machine application, the sound quality is fine, also there appears to be 2 microphones on the htc one for phone calls and another for audio recording. Tape machine allows you to select either or, and they both record in good quality, there could even be the possibility of having stereo records if there are 2.
SupremeBeaver said:
I disagree that the Sensation is way better than the Desire HD. Yes it is an evolution of the DHD, but in terms of user experience the phones are still very similar. I won't be upgrading because i dont really think the Sensation is too much of an upgrade (bar newer processor).
With that said, OP, i think you'll be very happy to know that the new Gingerbread update coming anytime now will have LARGELY improved audio. It will have sampling rate of 44.1 KHz and 128 Kbps bitrate. This is confirmed in the leaked version in the development section, i've seen a recording and the sound is way better.
Now one area i cant argue with however is the loudspeaker on the DHD. It's terrible. Maybe the Sensation is better there.
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still videos in mp4 wouldnt be bad, i hate reconverting them!
Chad_Petree said:
still videos in mp4 wouldnt be bad, i hate reconverting them!
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Like someone else mentioned, .3gp is only the container, not the codec. So you don't necessarily have to reconvert them, just change the container. Should be much faster that way.
Download this program Avidemux: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
Drag your videos in, on the left leave Video and Audio as is, and only change Format to MP4. Select save video and make sure you type in .mp4 at the end of the filename (otherwise it wont save as a video). You'll notice that it takes only a couple of seconds to change the container and viola you have an mp4 video
What's wrong with htc? even the new sensation has horrible audio quality, check out this video where they compare the sensation's 1080p recording vs the lg 2x , the guy's voiced sounds high pitched :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmctC5gfvI&feature=player_embedded
still the audio recording quality on the camcorder is still piss poor for a device of this calibre
Has the Gingergread update not sorted that yet?

Why 3rd party music player only support 48Khz and not detect 192Khz?

Im sorry if there any duplicate thread or this question has been asked before.
My S8 and my friend's S8+ (Exynos) (Or you may have the same problem) Cant choose more than 48Khz of sampling rate in 3rd party apps like Hibymusic or neutron.
AFAIK the S8 and S8+ has the hi res compatibility up to 32bit 386Khz (cmiiw), but only samsung music detect this and im not sure if this app play the bit perfect of 386Khz because other apps cant detect that.
So is there any limitation from android system which limit the sampling rate to 48Khz or there any incompatibility of the 3rd party software to the samsung internal DACs?
I dont want to use usb dac because i didnt have money to buy that.
And lastly thanks for your answers or any response of my post!
aryaputraz said:
Im sorry if there any duplicate thread or this question has been asked before.
My S8 and my friend's S8+ (Exynos) (Or you may have the same problem) Cant choose more than 48Khz of sampling rate in 3rd party apps like Hibymusic or neutron.
AFAIK the S8 and S8+ has the hi res compatibility up to 32bit 386Khz (cmiiw), but only samsung music detect this and im not sure if this app play the bit perfect of 386Khz because other apps cant detect that.
So is there any limitation from android system which limit the sampling rate to 48Khz or there any incompatibility of the 3rd party software to the samsung internal DACs?
I dont want to use usb dac because i didnt have money to buy that.
And lastly thanks for your answers or any response of my post!
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BlackPlayer plays my FLAC and DSD just fine at appropriate volumes if that makes a difference.
aryaputraz said:
Im sorry if there any duplicate thread or this question has been asked before.
My S8 and my friend's S8+ (Exynos) (Or you may have the same problem) Cant choose more than 48Khz of sampling rate in 3rd party apps like Hibymusic or neutron.
AFAIK the S8 and S8+ has the hi res compatibility up to 32bit 386Khz (cmiiw), but only samsung music detect this and im not sure if this app play the bit perfect of 386Khz because other apps cant detect that.
So is there any limitation from android system which limit the sampling rate to 48Khz or there any incompatibility of the 3rd party software to the samsung internal DACs?
I dont want to use usb dac because i didnt have money to buy that.
And lastly thanks for your answers or any response of my post!
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You have music recorded at 192khz and or @32bit? I would find this incredibly surprising. Such high audio parameters are only used for audio work and only because the extra bit depth and /or sample rate is useful for maintaining headroom while processing the recording.
The reason 44.1/16 has been used for so long is that it is capable of reproducing every frequency the human ear is capable of hearing with perfect precision. This means recording at higher levels of either does nothing more for listening and would only take up space for nothing
partcyborg said:
You have music recorded at 192khz and or @32bit? I would find this incredibly surprising. Such high audio parameters are only used for audio work and only because the extra bit depth and /or sample rate is useful for maintaining headroom while processing the recording.
The reason 44.1/16 has been used for so long is that it is capable of reproducing every frequency the human ear is capable of hearing with perfect precision. This means recording at higher levels of either does nothing more for listening and would only take up space for nothing
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Ah figured you'd answer something like this lol. You you. You audiophile you

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