I noticed after coming from recording something with live music: the nexus ones audio recording quality SUCKS! I say this because my friend recorded the same thing with his palm pre, and its much nicer on the ears. I was reading something about the nexus using the inferior amr codec for the audio portion of the video, and was wondering with the new 720p hacks was this overcome...
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I know the people here are very talented and I hope someone can help. I had high hopes for the video recording on this phone. When the reviews came out I was very disappointed in both the pic and video quality. Every 8 mega pixel camera phone out there beats it. Even the 1 year old Omnia HD. I can live with the pic quality but the video quality is what really frustrates me. Yea it records in 800x480 but whats the point if its pixelated and washed out. Not to mention the highest frame rate it can go to is 26fps. Ohh and the audio quality is horrendous. When the Omnia HD came out it also suffered from bad audio quality but in a later update they addressed the issue. Most phones coming out now record in AAC audio which the Incredible obviously doesn't. I just wish someone can up the frame rate to 30fps, give the video a higher bitrate, and change the audio to AAC. IF you have spare time can you unlock the 720p recording.
That would be extremely useful over any custom Rom in my opinion.....I'm actually considering returning my EVO based upon those issues alone and i doubt HTC will fix it during the next 15 days or so
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showmrock said:
That would be extremely useful over any custom Rom in my opinion.....I'm actually considering returning my EVO based upon those issues alone and i doubt HTC will fix it during the next 15 days or so
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please no....! we will miss you soooooooo much... !!!
i couldnt resist...!
Grounding really affecting you at all? The screen works fine on my EVO grounded or not, curious to see some testing on stock and custom roms. audio recording will be improved by someone, whether it be us or htc first idk but it will happen.
Yes I'm having serious issues with my screen and the audio quality when rec hd video sounds like an extremely low bit
showmrock said:
Yes I'm having serious issues with my screen and the audio quality when rec hd video sounds like an extremely low bit
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mine sounds ok, http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrono/4679553815/in/set-72157624101720673/
The problem with the audio is that it's recorded in 8KHz Narrowband AMR audio codec. Also, the video codec is generic MPEG4 at 6Megabits/sec which is significantly less impressive than H.264 at the same bitrate.
Any ideas why the EVO could not record directly into H.264 video and AAC audio codecs?
unclepain said:
The problem with the audio is that it's recorded in 8KHz Narrowband AMR audio codec. Also, the video codec is generic MPEG4 at 6Megabits/sec which is significantly less impressive than H.264 at the same bitrate.
Any ideas why the EVO could not record directly into H.264 video and AAC audio codecs?
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I'm betting HTC didn't want to pay royalties to use the H.264 and AAC codecs, as they are both licensed technologies and not open source.
I recorded a short clip of my voice with HTC's Voice recorder app. Then i went and downloaded TapeMachine Lite from the market. WOW what a difference. I always thought the DHD's poor audio recording was down to hardware, but clearly not. HTC for some reason set the audio output to 8000Khz, but TapeRecorder records at 44.1Khz or 48Khz, in a format of your choice (WAV is default).
So i was wondering, how easy would it be to implement this quality recording in the camcorder app? If someone does this then i'll happily shell out some money for the cause.
I just repeated what you've just posted. Wow, what a difference. Why this isn't default on the DHD camcorder I don't know.
I think the sample rate in the camcorder is a limitation of the audio codec that is used, just guessing tho as I'm not sure of the all the limitations with aac-lc
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no the camera 720p encoding is AVC h264 with AAC audio, the standard is baseline L3.1 and based on this standard the audio should be encoded at 44khz 160kb bitrate
8khz is just one of those amazingly stupid things HTC keeps on slipping in, i don't know if its done to lower the stress on the recording frame rate
i sent them an enraged email about this a while ago and all they said that its passed on to the accurate department
but with 8khz i was surprised at the loudness of the recording, which explains your post today
can someone fix it with a patch? and while at it, please increase the screen red saturation a little
I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
we should have an online petition for this! video recording in mp4 with aac audio!
3rd party recording apps maybe?
Online petition doesn't work anyways.
Sent via psychic transmittion.
Well i sent htc a couple of emails, stating that the audio quality for video is even overshadowed by nokia phones which are 6 years old, why they still use dreadfull audio when literally every other phone on the market from iphones, nokia's sony erricson's all have higher quality audio recording. I find it hard to believe they have done it because of performance issues, most digital camcorders dont have 1ghz processors and they can do it hands down. HTC are still using the same old rubbish low quality audio thats been around on their pda phones since windows mobile 5. It's time to move on, and if its for compatiblity, well how many people send 20 min HD 720p multimedia messages? when no network carriers even support formats or resolutions like that. I think its misleading and false advertising for HTC promoting this phone as having all this great video quality 8mega pixel cam and HD video to completely let us down with zx spectrum like audio quality. What where the HTC designers even thinking is beyond me. Why do they let iphone and nokia, samsung completley walk all over them in the audio department.
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I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
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If ubought this phone now your are doomed... You shoulda have waited for htc sensation... Its much better then htc desire hd...its releasing in 1st week of may.. If you can return it.. I think you should.. And if you want loud sound then there is a topic jyst beliw yours abt sound... try it.. I did and now I have 70% more loud ness in my phone...
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If ubought this phone now your are doomed... You shoulda have waited for htc sensation... Its much better then htc desire hd...its releasing in 1st week of may.. If you can return it.. I think you should.. And if you want loud sound then there is a topic jyst beliw yours abt sound... try it.. I did and now I have 70% more loud ness in my phone...
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I disagree that the Sensation is way better than the Desire HD. Yes it is an evolution of the DHD, but in terms of user experience the phones are still very similar. I won't be upgrading because i dont really think the Sensation is too much of an upgrade (bar newer processor).
With that said, OP, i think you'll be very happy to know that the new Gingerbread update coming anytime now will have LARGELY improved audio. It will have sampling rate of 44.1 KHz and 128 Kbps bitrate. This is confirmed in the leaked version in the development section, i've seen a recording and the sound is way better.
Now one area i cant argue with however is the loudspeaker on the DHD. It's terrible. Maybe the Sensation is better there.
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I just got an htc desire hd and generally really happy with it. The main gripe tho is why they choose to use a dated codec like 3gp is beyond me with crap 8000khz sound. HD video quality at 720p with dreadfull audio is like putting a ferrari engine in a corsa. Why did they not choose mp4 cd quality 44.1 khz instead of this crap? It's marketed as a multimedia phone with a video format which is, well lets face only compatible with other phones unless you convert it which defeats the whole purpose of having nice prestine hd.
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First of all 3gp is a container, not a codec. In that container you'll find the same codecs for the audio and video streams like in the mp4 container used by other camcoders - namely h264 for the video and aac for the audio. The poor quality is due to the codec settings used by the application - 8kHz, 32kbps. Why they did that is beyond me. Maybe the frequency response of the microphone is limited to 4kHz and if this is the case, neither Gingerbread, nor Zebra Cake will fix that.
The micropone can record in pristine 44.1khz quality try using tape machine application, the sound quality is fine, also there appears to be 2 microphones on the htc one for phone calls and another for audio recording. Tape machine allows you to select either or, and they both record in good quality, there could even be the possibility of having stereo records if there are 2.
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I disagree that the Sensation is way better than the Desire HD. Yes it is an evolution of the DHD, but in terms of user experience the phones are still very similar. I won't be upgrading because i dont really think the Sensation is too much of an upgrade (bar newer processor).
With that said, OP, i think you'll be very happy to know that the new Gingerbread update coming anytime now will have LARGELY improved audio. It will have sampling rate of 44.1 KHz and 128 Kbps bitrate. This is confirmed in the leaked version in the development section, i've seen a recording and the sound is way better.
Now one area i cant argue with however is the loudspeaker on the DHD. It's terrible. Maybe the Sensation is better there.
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still videos in mp4 wouldnt be bad, i hate reconverting them!
Chad_Petree said:
still videos in mp4 wouldnt be bad, i hate reconverting them!
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Like someone else mentioned, .3gp is only the container, not the codec. So you don't necessarily have to reconvert them, just change the container. Should be much faster that way.
Download this program Avidemux: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
Drag your videos in, on the left leave Video and Audio as is, and only change Format to MP4. Select save video and make sure you type in .mp4 at the end of the filename (otherwise it wont save as a video). You'll notice that it takes only a couple of seconds to change the container and viola you have an mp4 video
What's wrong with htc? even the new sensation has horrible audio quality, check out this video where they compare the sensation's 1080p recording vs the lg 2x , the guy's voiced sounds high pitched :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmctC5gfvI&feature=player_embedded
still the audio recording quality on the camcorder is still piss poor for a device of this calibre
Has the Gingergread update not sorted that yet?
Before I got my XPERIA S I had XPERIA PLAY. And I really missing my PLAY specially game pad and I wouldn't be worry much about no ICS for PLAY because GB doing very well on both phones. But one thing very upset me on XPS sound quality and no Stereo on video playback its shame for such as great device. There is my video with proof :
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Thanks for the video.
Very interesting.
(IrishStuff09 from YouTube btw )
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it might be true (ok2.. i did some test, and the video record is not stereo)
but what on earth you meant with sound quality? and no stereo in video playback? i use the default movie app, mx video player, dice player, to watch my video clips collection (not the one recorded by the phone) and im sure as hell it's playing in stereo... in all apps.
and for sound quality? idk.. this is very-very subjective. but i think it sounds nice. provided i use flac+neutron/walkman (ics built-in music app)/poweramp+ Chinese made earphone (Yuin PK3)
Hi. I used my XPERIA PLAY as a gaming phone but also I recorded a lots o videos . for example when my little boy dancing or try to dance with music in background. When I played my videos on my phone or any computer. Sound quality was absolutely perfect and I never heard before so clear sound with STEREO as well form any phone I had in my hands … HD Vidos Quality wasn’t great if compare to SXS but I wouldn’t complaining on sound playback.
Then 1st time I had a chance to see SONY XPERIA S in TV ads and YouTube Reviews then fell in love straight away , bought SXS and I keep doing same thing recording videos … when I played videos on phones or computers I was very disappointed difference is HUGE for me.
I can agree that my video maybe only a proof for Comparison of STEREO AND MONO . But not really for spund quality. I I have sold my SE XPERIA PLAY so I cant make any video at the moment but I have one of good few videos uploaded to YouTube recorded with PLAY . I Just have to make it public …I May have more on my Laptop:
Sound quality on Video recorded by me using XPERIA PLAY
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