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[Q] [q] nand restore messup

i had a very bad experience with nand backup/restore very recently and wanted to share it with the community and hear any feedback or suggestions where i eventually did wrong.
First of all i have to state i am a newbe on Android and have just started learning how to do some mods via the great help of this forum.
here is my case: I have partitioned my SD and moved all existing apps to the newly created partition via recovery mode. When I reboot no apps showed (i am not sure apps2sd is missing or what) therefore I decided to restore my earlier backup which went trhough succesfully but guess what ? ..... the phone did not reboot anymore and it arrived only up to the HTC flashing logo and got stuck there.
I had to find the stock rom again (sorry i forgot to mention i was using the stock rom) and reflash it from scratch which finally made it to work. thanks to shipped-roms.com !!!
My first guess is that for some reason the restore did not work and i got into a sort of loop mode because i tried moving all apps to SD before rebooting and this did not work properly.
does anyone have any idea of what could have been the problem ? I will provide any addiotional specifics if needed.

pardol said:
i had a very bad experience with nand backup/restore very recently and wanted to share it with the community and hear any feedback or suggestions where i eventually did wrong.
First of all i have to state i am a newbe on Android and have just started learning how to do some mods via the great help of this forum.
here is my case: I have partitioned my SD and moved all existing apps to the newly created partition via recovery mode. When I reboot no apps showed (i am not sure apps2sd is missing or what) therefore I decided to restore my earlier backup which went trhough succesfully but guess what ? ..... the phone did not reboot anymore and it arrived only up to the HTC flashing logo and got stuck there.
I had to find the stock rom again (sorry i forgot to mention i was using the stock rom) and reflash it from scratch which finally made it to work. thanks to shipped-roms.com !!!
My first guess is that for some reason the restore did not work and i got into a sort of loop mode because i tried moving all apps to SD before rebooting and this did not work properly.
does anyone have any idea of what could have been the problem ? I will provide any addiotional specifics if needed.
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hi
app2sd has to be cooked into the rom and cannot be installed separately into the rom so have u used a rom with apps2sd in it im using Jacobs 1.5 which has apps2sd and i have done ext3 part & to my knowledge u need to do ext3 part for apps2sd to work
hope this helps

Actually you can install apps2sd after flashing a rom without. Just flash the darktremor skript you find in the forum. It depends on the rom if it's working fine or not. It worked for me with modaco r3.

Thank you for your help. As I stated originally i am using the original shipped rom and I have flashes a modified recovery where I can both partition the sd, do an ext2 to ext3 and eventually move all applications to the sd, however when I did it they all disappeared. Because all seemed to be available via the recovery menu is did it without checking more but I will need to do so since my Tattoo is already full.
I have not read around anyone saying that original Roms cannot install apps2sd. Am I wrong?
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pardol said:
Thank you for your help. As I stated originally i am using the original shipped rom and I have flashes a modified recovery where I can both partition the sd, do an ext2 to ext3 and eventually move all applications to the sd, however when I did it they all disappeared. Because all seemed to be available via the recovery menu is did it without checking more but I will need to do so since my Tattoo is already full.
I have not read around anyone saying that original Roms cannot install apps2sd. Am I wrong?
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As I already said you can install the apps2sd script. But it is not installed by default. So if you want to use it you have to install it first. The rom can not detect your apps on the ext partition because you have not activated a2sd. You can find it here.

sandrome said:
As I already said you can install the apps2sd script. But it is not installed by default. So if you want to use it you have to install it first. The rom can not detect your apps on the ext partition because you have not activated a2sd. You can find it here.
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this is great thank you. just a last request: is it possible to remove and return all apps to the internal memory in case I want to restore as it is now ?
in addition does this work for all apps even if they are not setup to be running from SD card ?
sorry if i am asking so many questions but given my previous bad experience i want to make sure i am not going to screw up everytning again....

I don't know if there is a command in the a2sd script that can remove those files from your sd. Maybe a2sd remove in an adb shell, but I'm not sure. You can move any app to your sd with this script. The other thing is for froyo. I think you don't even need an ext partition on 2.2.

Thank you very much for your help!
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Partition SD Card Help (Rom Manager)....

Hi there,
I'm having trouble with the "Partition SD Card" function in the Rom Manager application. It goes through recovery and does everything successfully, but after I install an application it installs to the phone. I checked in the "Settings>SD and Phone Storage" which showed a smaller amount of memory after having installed the application. I installed the application "Apps to SDcard", and when I run it, it tells me "Error, either an incorrect ROM is installed or your SD card is not formatted correctly". I don't know what I did wrong, I have my SD card formatted at FAT32, and my ROM is the NeonMod Rom. I will have a link to it after. I tried the Apps to SDcard app after using the Rom Manager to partition my SD card at, 256MB Ext size, and 32MB swap size. I have a 2GB card, and it's the one that came with my phone (Sandisk) if that helps. Thanks for the help guys.
Here's the link to the ROM I currently have and its description:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751831
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, I'm new to this forum. Thanks.

It might not be a fast enough card for a2sd to work.

TheGrammarFreak said:
It might not be a fast enough card for a2sd to work.
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Nope, the problem is you are running an Eclair ROM and the app is not "ext" type of A2SD - it just uses the Froyo A2SD, which uses FAT32 partition to move apps to.
If you install Froyo, this app will work, else install a ROM with A2SD that uses ext partition, it's much better

Thanks, I found a Rom that supports A2SD and uses ext partition, and it works. Just a question though, I used Apps to SDCard to move the apps to the card, but now can't find them. Where can I find them now? LOL. Thanks so much for the help I really appreciate it, this is the current Rom I got that supports A2SD just in case anybody wants:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834121

Not sure about this one, but why don't you use Froyo ROM?

Well if it's better then I will, I don't know much about Froyo but can you please give me a Froyo Rom if it's better? Android 2.1 version though. Thanks.
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It depends... Do you like sense? You can find a list of roms in stickies in Development!
Start there, but the list is not very recent. I'm currently running BlaY0's Rom, try that one if you like sense ;-) CM6.1 is an obvious choice if you don't...
Good luck!
and btw: Froyo is faster and alltogether better

Okay thanks I'll give it a try. And yes I like Sense a lot. Thanks again!

Papaniz said:
Well if it's better then I will, I don't know much about Froyo but can you please give me a Froyo Rom if it's better? Android 2.1 version though...
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You cannot have Froyo AND Android 2.1 at the same time
Android 2.1 = Eclair
Android 2.2 = Froyo
Android 2.3 = Gingerbread
P.S. Move to Froyo

[Q] Apps on sd

Ok I've got a stupid question but havent stumbled across the answer yet... HTC Aria, I've found plenty of info that says you can move apps over to the sd card to free up phone memory but I cant find the option to do this. I've gone through the settings menu, gone to the apps, but there is no button to 'move to sd'. Do I need to upgrade this phone to 2.2 in order to do this?
Personally I'm using the Samsung Captivate loaded with 2.2 and have no problems moving apps over to the card. Even apps that are 'apps2sd' enabled dont have the option to move on the Aria, apps that I was able to move around on my Captivate dont show the option on the htc.
Rooting and custom roms are not an issue for the user, they just keep getting 'out of memory' messages and asked me to fix the phone. The only downside to loading the official 2.2 update is the fact that all data is lost but I do have some spare time to reload everything - I just dont want to waste my time downloading and running the update if it still wont let me move apps over to the sd card. Thanks for the help

Android's built-in support for moving some applications to the SD card (apps2sd) requires Froyo (2.2), so that is why you aren't seeing the option. It is supported in the official 2.2 update for the Aria.
Those of us here don't like to recommend updating to the official 2.2 release because it makes it impossible to root your phone or install custom ROMs at a later point in time. There are a few custom ROMs available on this forum that can give you 2.2 Sense on the phone with things like sideloading and free tethering enabled, and most of the AT&T preloaded apps removed. However if you're OK with AT&T's limitations and don't have a problem not being able to use custom ROMs, then that's your prerogative.

Hey I have a question to I have cm7 and can all applications go to sd card like Widgets and all I have rc4
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AriaUSer_ said:
Hey I have a question to I have cm7 and can all applications go to sd card like Widgets and all I have rc4
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Widgets will not work if you move them to the sd
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AriaUSer_ said:
Hey I have a question to I have cm7 and can all applications go to sd card like Widgets and all I have rc4
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not with the built in a2sd. but if you create an ext2 or ext3 partition on your sd card you can use the s2e app from the market to move apps to the sd card and still use your widgets.

CallMeAria said:
not with the built in a2sd. but if you create an ext2 or ext3 partition on your sd card you can use the s2e app from the market to move apps to the sd card and still use your widgets.
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Just to clarify (and potentially save someone some trouble), S2E only works with ext3, not ext2.
Also S2E only works with CM7, don't try it with any other ROMs!

How can I expand my internal storage?

Hey guys, hoping you could could give me more of a 'step-by-step' guide on how to expand my internal memory with my 8gb SD card. Please keep it mega-simple, I only got this phone yesterday, and managed to flash ICS thanks to a very basic tutorial.
Thanks
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A2SD is your answer
CustardNOM said:
Hey guys, hoping you could could give me more of a 'step-by-step' guide on how to expand my internal memory with my 8gb SD card. Please keep it mega-simple, I only got this phone yesterday, and managed to flash ICS thanks to a very basic tutorial.
Thanks
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?? What ROM r u using ??
The easiest way is using application or script that move application to SD card. These things will move your application to your sd card and not wasting your internal memory. it's work perfectly fine.
There are many script available - chose one that match your ROM cause not all script are working perfectly to every ROM.
try search using A2SD and ....... (your ROM) to see which one work and which one donot...... Unfortunately i have to tell u that some script might working well with someone's phone (even u have the same ROM).
The second way is to install the app to SD program, like link2sd, app2sd... it's free on the market. Also this program is not working on everyone's phone. However it's easier to install.
after install script and application there might be a problem like low sound, lag, internet issue etc. so check that everything is Ok after u do anything.
I can't give u a step by step 'cause i dont know which ROM r u using.....

CustardNOM said:
Hey guys, hoping you could could give me more of a 'step-by-step' guide on how to expand my internal memory with my 8gb SD card. Please keep it mega-simple, I only got this phone yesterday, and managed to flash ICS thanks to a very basic tutorial.
Thanks
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it's different for roms indeed. generally we have app2sd, app2sd+(aka app2ext), data2ext, d2sd, ad2sdx and so on.
the most basic and convenient 1 is link2sd from play store~

i think it's impossible to expand an internal storage. capacity is fixed. i read somewhere that some of space will be used for kernel and ROMs wil use another some of internal memory space to copy system files. so normally you will have internal memory available around 150-200MB depends on partition layout you make. the only way if you want to install many application is as mentioned above to move your application to SDcard,and i think link2sd app is the easiest way to do that

[GUIDE] Resolve Low Internal Space Issues

Well if you’re here you’ve probably gone and bought the ZTE Blade or one of its variants (Orange San Francisco, Dell XCD35 or the Idea Blade). You’ve probably been using it for a while now and I’m pretty sure you’ve come to that annoying moment when you download an awesome new app and get that pesky notification saying “Not enough memory”. Here’s a way to fix that problem albeit temporarily for rooted and non-rooted users alike
# Non Rooted Users:
First off, if you’re Android version says 2.1, it means you’ve got a Gen1 device. It’d be best top update it to a Gen2 device yourself using a TPT, or ask your manufacturer to do it for you. Now assuming you have a Gen2 device, i.e. your Android version says 2.2, this is how you go about getting space to install more apps.
-Once you install an app, open the settings menu
-Go to the “Applications” menu and select the “Downloaded” tab
-Select any application
-Keep in mind that this works only for applications that have been granted movability by their developer
-Android 2.2 onwards has an inbuilt option that allows users to move part of the app to the SD card. You should see an option saying “Move to SD Card”. If you do not see it, or it is grayed out, that means the developer has restricted the option. This is common for some apps like widgets
-Repeat for any number of apps you want.
Note : This provides only a little breathing space and allows you to squeeze in a few more apps. The root methods are far more effective. There's also an app called APP2SD to help with this on Google Play
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# Rooted Users
The following methods are only for rooted users. To check if your phone is rooted, download the Root Checker app from Google Play. Rooted users have two methods of increasing storage space: Apps2SD+ and A2SD.
Apps2SD+ is similar to the inbuilt option that comes with Android 2.2. However, this enables rooted users to move more of the app to the SD card and also move ANY application to the SD card irrespective of the developer’s restrictions. There are two things that must be kept in mind while using this method. One, widgets do not work if moved to the SD card, so refrain from doing that. Two, the SD card is read after booting, so moving too many apps to the SD card (75+) will cause the phone to hang a lot at boot and reboot several times. This is done using an app. I recommend "DroidSail SuperApps2SD''
A2SD is the process of partitioning the SD card and using it as phone storage. This is by far the best method to increase storage space as a 1GB partition allows you to install 500+ apps, the ease of use and performance aside. This is available for most ROMs if they support an sd-ext script. Partitioning the SD card can be done using Minitool Partition Wizard or by ClockworkMod Recovery. The recommended partition size is 1GB as this is more than enough. The swap should be kept at 0MB or if you use the phone for gaming, at 32MB. Once the memory card is partitioned, the apps along with all their data can be moved to this partition. This can be done by two ways. DarkTremor A2SD scripts for most ROMs, or S2E for CyanogenMod. This is very easy to use and having done it myself, I have 450 apps and the phone’s performance isn’t the slightest bit affected.
Partitioned and still no space? See this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933144
Good Luck installing those 500 apps and showing off with them

Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!

matt4321 said:
Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!
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Awesome tutorial!
+1.
Already knew this but good for other who don't know! :laugh:

DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!

Di0g0 said:
DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!
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Have u run the script?

QuantumFoam said:
Have u run the script?
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Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.

Di0g0 said:
Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.
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No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first

QuantumFoam said:
No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first
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The script doesn't work on my phone :X

Di0g0 said:
The script doesn't work on my phone :X
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Why not? Which rom?

QuantumFoam said:
Why not? Which rom?
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Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....

Di0g0 said:
Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....
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Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon

QuantumFoam said:
Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon
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I installed via Clockwork recovery and I created the sd partition, maybe my partition is ext2 :x I don't know how to change to ext3!

"sdmove " and "sd watch" app this automatically detect the app which can move to sd
GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......

unmesh.ghodke said:
GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......
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Apps2SD by Sam Lu does the exact same thing
Also, I would appreciate it if you stopped posting as if your life is in danger with the bold red font
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I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?

vittal said:
I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?
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Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD

QuantumFoam said:
Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD
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Or link2sd which works pretty well.

hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?

insurgente said:
hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?
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Rooting and then using the solutions in the op seems to be the only plausible option.
However, you can try a cache cleaning app. Should give you 10-15MB depending on how many apps have cached data
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none
good app..