Mini-USB - Touch Diamond2, Pure General

Hello,
I wanted to notify you guys about something that we (my sister and I) accidently discovered. After I gave my phone to her (I get a new one) I installed NoData to prevent extra costs. I forgot to put the USB cable back into the charger, and somehow she got her hands on an Mini-USB cable and plugged it in. The day after, when I woke up, I was surprised that this cable did exactly the same as the original does. I've tested it with the PC also.
So for all users out here; you can use Mini-USB as well.
I'm sorry if this has been discovered already.
Regards,
NLCJ
EDIT:
I'm not totally sure whether this USB type is called Mini-USB, but I found it using Google, so I guess it is.
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Het warm water opnieuw uitgevonden? Neen het is al langer bekend het noemt een usb ext aansluiting van htc, dit is een mini usb met extra audioconnectie.

Yep thats been seen before, HTC uses ext-usb, which is just mini-usb with some added pins.
neocivis basically said the same thing, but in dutch

cmstackar said:
Yep thats been seen before, HTC uses ext-usb, which is just mini-usb with some added pins.
neocivis basically said the same thing, but in dutch
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lol you understan dutch?

Here is connection of that cable.

Am i the only one who cant use a normal mini-usb cable for data transfer? It charges, but when its connected to a pc i cant start usb-transfer. Is this normal?

trancebydesign said:
Am i the only one who cant use a normal mini-usb cable for data transfer? It charges, but when its connected to a pc i cant start usb-transfer. Is this normal?
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No, this is not normal. Additional pins only affect the audio.
Perhaps try a different cable.

ye known for a while thouht it was obvious so didnt bother posting it....

PS3
Yes, it is possible. I am using PS3 cable, usually used for charge controller. It is possible to use another USB for phone, but isnĀ“t possible to use HTC cable in another USB "holes"

I try mini usb cable it's work with active sync, disk drive & charger
Thank you brother

trancebydesign said:
Am i the only one who cant use a normal mini-usb cable for data transfer? It charges, but when its connected to a pc i cant start usb-transfer. Is this normal?
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I know this is a little old but for those who have the same problem, there are differences in USB cables, some are for charging only and don't include a wire for sync; you need to make sure the cable you are using is sync capable.

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USB Host

Can anyone confirm that the Universal does not have USB host. Most places just say no but there isn't really any hard evidence of it. I know the processor supports it but did they put in the necessary circuitry for it? Whats strange is that the Universal's miniUSB port is the same as my Sharp Zaurus's miniUSB port and my USB host adapter fits in. Does not fit into normal miniUSB ports. Just the Zaurus which had USB host and the HTC Universal. Just seemed a bit odd to me. I tried it of course and did not do anything.
I'll experiment with this further and check that image of the mainboard closely.
everybody who posted about it in this forum reported it to not support host
connector means nothing all htc devices since the universal have had the same connector
heck these days they are talking about making it the std connector for all phones nokia and the likes too
This all hinges on the connector, and the hardware used to drive the connector. The Universal(and indedd, all mobile devices) use mini-USB connectors, which do NOT incorporate a host control circuit. This means that, since USB uses a protocol that might be termed as "Speak when spoken to", your device can answer the computer when it asks, it can NOT ask another device to speak to it.
To sum it up, you can't connect a pendrive to your PDA, but you can connect it to your computer, precisely because of the lack of the USB host controller unit.
Hope this cleared it up for you...
Cheers
This is not what I meant. I'm talking about a specific type of miniUSB connector.
And in the recent announcement to make a standard cell phone connector, they chose microUSB.
This is what I mean.
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HTC Universal's miniUSB port.
A normal miniUSB port.
My miniUSB -> USB host adapter from my Sharp Zaurus fits into only the Zaurus and the HTC Universal. Doesn't do anything in the HTC Universal though.
Not possible.
If you check on the internals, you will find that there is no power output to the usb port in anyway. so, its a hardware limitation and there is no way it will support hosting, be rest assured!
San
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
host vs. peripherals
connectors mean nothing
I found a thread in the German PPCWelt.info forum where several people say that there MDA Pro supported USB host, with a special driver:
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=74113&highlight=mda+pro+usb+host
I don't know how reliable this is (not every USB client can act as a USB host because of different hardware AND software), but perhaps you want to try it.
Alex
EDIT: They also say that your USB device needs a power supply because the MDA can't do that (external hub). Other people even say that without such a power supply your MDA could be damaged. This Engadget article is also mentioned:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/02/youve-got-htc-universal-questions-weve-got-htc-universal/
EDIT2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26742&start=25 (with an official statement of HTC: no, it WON'T work.)
Rudegar said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
host vs. peripherals
connectors mean nothing
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I know that. I just wanted to know if the hardware was there for it thats all.
the hardware maybe there deep inside the cpu but the pcb lanes where maybe support chips were never connected rendering it absent
can some of german guys test it and report it to this thread.?>

Need help wiring a mini usb to 3.5 headphone jack

Well, I'm really cheap so today i decided to make my own mini usb to headphone jack instead of buy one. And I'm stumped i cant figure out what to solder where so could anyone help me?
Heres the pics of the headphone jack i got out of an old cd drive.
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And heres the wires from the mini usb cord.
If anyone could help thanks. O any sorry about the bad pics.
Get a mini usb to stereo 3.5 from amazon.com 5.95 and 2.45 shipping. should arrive in a couple of days. mine did and works great. and no chance of frying your phone.
FireBladeCBR
FireBladeCBR said:
Get a mini usb to stereo 3.5 from amazon.com 5.95 and 2.45 shipping. should arrive in a couple of days. mine did and works great. and no chance of frying your phone.
FireBladeCBR
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I got two, they work great plus they are inexpensive
i applaud the use of t rying to do it yourself, you are gonna need a soildering iron, but there is a tutorial online. google "how to..." and you should find it soon. if i had done it myself i would tell you but i don't likie wires so i have bluetooth
If you look closely at your original mini-usb plug or the socket of the mobile you will notice that there are a total of 11 pins (5 and 6)
in case you use only a mini usb cable you will contact the 5 pins.
These however are not used for the antenna, mic. or the headphones.
(according to
Stal-Ker said:
I measured that here. I hope that that correct is.
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you might need to buy one of the 11-pin plugs on the market.
and then you can replace the headphones with your own as seen in other threads.
If anyone has built the external circuit for the headphones and mic
PLEASE let me know.
I paid for mine 3/4 $, shipping cost included.......
maybe someone could post some pin schemes, how to solder? Because i got my mini USB to 3.5mm audio adapter from ebay, and it doesnt seemed to work. And i managed to break it so now i dont know which pins to solder, there are only two tiny wires in the adapter. Thanks for help.

How to broadcast music over USB cable

Hiya all - I have one of those car chargers/fm transmitters that work with all USB cables. I used to use it for an iPhone. With iphone, when you plug the device, the ipod would automatically send the music over the USB cable to the actual charger/transmitter, thus allowing me to listen to the music via car stereo speakers. Is it possible to do the same with Nexus One (trying just straight on didn't do the trick )
Thnx
USB does not have contacts/wires to transmit audio. There is only power and data. You are confused
Volker1 said:
USB does not have contacts/wires to transmit audio. There is only power and data. You are confused
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Well that might be true, but it totally works with iPhone
Most likely because it's an iPhone accessory and the iPhone has drivers for it which android doesn't.
kaynemo said:
Hiya all - I have one of those car chargers/fm transmitters that work with all USB cables. I used to use it for an iPhone. With iphone, when you plug the device, the ipod would automatically send the music over the USB cable to the actual charger/transmitter, thus allowing me to listen to the music via car stereo speakers. Is it possible to do the same with Nexus One (trying just straight on didn't do the trick )
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If you get/have a head unit that has a USB port you can use your phoene and charge it if you mount the phone as a USBdevice.... ive done that with my G1 and it works... Other than that i dont know of any device for the N1 or any usb type device that does that....
Yes, you are confused. Normal USB doesn't transmit audio.
You want one of these
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I plug my phone into my car (if your car has a standard 3.5mm aux port like mine), and play music perfectly fine. 0 software required.
Paul22000 said:
Yes, you are confused. Normal USB doesn't transmit audio.
You want one of these
I plug my phone into my car (if your car has a standard 3.5mm aux port like mine), and play music perfectly fine. 0 software required.
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lol that will work too if you have aux... but usb quality is much better.
SiliconKnight said:
lol that will work too if you have aux... but usb quality is much better.
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LOL
USB is better, but NOT through FM FM is rubbish compared to jack cable.
I think he is talking about where the head just plays whatever files you have though the usb.
I don't have a unit that will read a usb mass storage.
Has anyone tried the N1 with such a system? (I'm guessing it might with it mounted)
LGU
If you have a car radio that can read from a usb storage device (e.g. a flash drive): Plug in the Nexus One and "Select to copy files to/from your computer".
Calling that "playing over usb" is a complete misnomer, though. The radio will just read the mp3 files over a usb data connection.

Oneplus 2/ (OPT) wireless charging possible?!

Hi all,
I know every OPT user is quite annoyed with Opt not having NFC or Wireless Charging.
There are also no other options available as far as i researched!
But., will thid idea work?
Connecting a qi wireless receiver micro usb type (as no usb c type was created yet) and using it through type c to micro usb adapter towards phone port finally?
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How can using that with a type C adaptor? You have to plug/unlug each time for a wireless charging? Or your phone has that 'tail' all the time?
Furthermore, the charging speed is really slow, charging via USB cable on OP2 is already slow enough
PhoenixNghi said:
How can using that with a type C adaptor? You have to plug/unlug each time for a wireless charging? Or your phone has that 'tail' all the time?
Furthermore, the charging speed is really slow, charging via USB cable on OP2 is already slow enough
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know this sucks., but will this work?
gofunzone9999 said:
know this sucks., but will this work?
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There's no reason it wouldn't. Although quite clumsy solution ?
gofunzone9999 said:
know this sucks., but will this work?
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yes, I'm using MIUI type C adaptor for charging with other microUSB cables, so theoretically it will work
PhoenixNghi said:
yes, I'm using MIUI type C adaptor for charging with other microUSB cables, so theoretically it will work
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pitrus- said:
There's no reason it wouldn't. Although quite clumsy solution ?
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That clarifies my question. Thank you!

Galaxy Tab A 10.1 usb connection quit working

I've had a Galaxy Tab A 10.1 for over a year now and get the most use out of it by connecting a thumb drive via the usb connection (for viewing pdf files). It's worked great until a few days ago.
After connecting as usual there appeared a message at the bottom "something something disconnected" (the "something something" being I don't remember exactly what and the message disappeared before I could see) and now the usb/connection doesn't show up in the "My Files" window (just the "internal storage" and "sd" indicators, whereas before I got the additional thumb drive designation).
I've tried two different utg connectors, no good. I've checked the thumb drive in my pc, it's fine. I've tried connecting the tablet to my pc via the usb, it doesn't show up at all. I can still move files between my pc and the tablet via wifi but I want my usb connectivity back!! I suspect the connection the utg plugs into.
Also, (I'm not sure if this is a separate issue or related) battery recharge seems to take much longer ... is this a sign of the tablet getting old? I could understand if it was 3 years+ but 1 year??!!
Thanks for any help or ideas as how to fix this!
HGGuy
I'm assuming you are using an OTG cable to USB Drive or a micro USB drive right? In other words the part you plug into you Tab is a micro USB and not Type-C USB? If it is micro USB and not Type-C try this ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGGdsMsK3VU. If it doesn't work the pins inside are probably damage and you need to replace the OTG cable or the drive, what ever you are using. If Type-C USB same thing. Needs replacing. Those pins ware out over time and use. Thats my best guess with out pics and further information.
Edit: Found this Image of what damaged micro USB pins look like, the damaged ones being on the right...
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Yes, I'm using a usb (to take the thumb drive) to micro usb connector. I suspect it's not a connector issue as I tried three separate connectors and none showed a connection to the tablet (i.e. the thumb drive did not show in the "My Files" page as it used to) ... all the pins on all 3 connectors look good, the fit into the tablet port is tight, no looseness. I've looked closer at the micro usb port on the tablet and I'm beginning to suspect that's the issue as a receiving contact on the outer edge seems to be damaged (possibly) ..
Thanks for the reply and the link to the Youtube video!
HGGuy
No Problem, I've never had a female Micro USB port go bad on me , but have heard of it happening. A good tug in the wrong direction I suppose could pull the solder connections apart or maybe even damage the innards. Is the Tablet taking a charge? I'm a little confused to actuality what part your referring too. Here is an image explaining what the different types of USB's I think you are using. Tell me what color circle you think is damaged. Or if you are using something else entirely different.

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