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Should we make a petition for Dell to give the option at least for stock android to be installed on Dell Streak as a form of update ?
Considering the rumours that Android 3.0 will be split in 2 forms and might focus on tablets and such, we could cut months of waiting time.
I'm for stock here. Can't be doing with these mods from dell and htc, rather make android better. I don't by a pc and get DELLS version of windows. I understand why, but the reason is gone as android is better.
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You can have my vote if you think it will work
I installed ADW launcher on my streak and it now looks rather more stock than before. So I can live with non-stock provided that:
1. You can turn it off or replace it
2. It doesn't delay the rollout of new firmware releases
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As I understand it, the US version will only come through AT&T. You'll not get a stock version there but rather a crippled version that may be difficult to update and so far no AT&T sold android device has ever seen an update, none. This is a very important issue being kept from view by Dell. I think we should petition, should be very noisy about this issue. If Dell does not sell direct, as the Nexus 1 was sold, we may NEVER see an update in any quarter of any year.
I agree, just got my dell streak and I love it. Coming from the nexus one and used to getting first dibs on upgrades to waiting for dells unnecessary add on is gonna be a pain in the butt. Can't we root and install just android, actually any word if the kernel is released?
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im sure people will make roms and upgrades that are clean or follow the path of a different phone. i want one with htc sense. itll be interesting to see whats done.
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Preface this with Dell's web address.
Could this be the end of the Streak? Here's why I say it is:
Nearly all phones from Q2/Q3 2010 have been phased out. HTC Aria, HTC Desire, Droid Incredible, T-Mobile MyTouch 3G, Motorola Droid X, and the Samsung Galaxy S series.
The only phones that remain from this era were the Dell Streak, which appears to have vanished from Dell's inventory, and the HTC Evo 4G, which is swiftly being replaced by other HTC offerings by Sprint.
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The Streak has enjoyed a run of a little more than a year, which is better than what a lot of phones can say. It had tip-top specs when it came out, and still runs beautifully in the face of new dual-core processors and new versions of Android.
My only hope is the modding scene stays alive for another year as Android moves into Ice Cream Sandwich and Dell shifts their mobile platform focus towards Windows Phone 7 (which seems to be the case, since they have more WP7 phones than Android phones now).
A big thanks for DJ_Steve and the entire modding community; without them, Dell probably wouldn't have even bothered updating to 2.2. And even then, thanks for doing a better job than Dell's offering. My hope is enough of us will stick around while locked onto two-year contracts and keep working to keep the phone relevant.
That is typical of most "SmartPhones" They always have to make a newer, better, faster model to keep the phone carriers happy by drawing customers.
Back in the olden days of non-converged devices the lifespan of a PDA, like the much respect Dell x50v and x51v, lasted for years in the market... Now you are lucky for 1 solid year and a device that would outlast the contract (like a car loan)
Eventually Dell will start marketing the Opus or whatever designation the Streak 2 will have.
(if only they would add a microUSB port for charging... instead of or in addition to the useless PDMI port)
Engadget says that they spoke to a Dell Rep and he/she told them that Dell was doing an update on the Streak 5 and that is why it was pulled.
davidbec92 said:
Engadget says that they spoke to a Dell Rep and he/she told them that Dell was doing an update on the Streak 5 and that is why it was pulled.
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If that's the case, more than likely means that we'll get an official Gingerbread build, don't you think?
If so, that makes me very happy.
If not, I'm still happy with my streak. It does what I need it to do reliably.
I just got a tweet from phandroid. That the dell streak was pulled from online stores for an update. I will post a URL when I find out more.
Edit: sorry didn't see that was already posted.
Doesn't really say anything - http://phandroid.com/2011/07/22/dell-streak-gets-pulled-from-onlinestore-shelves-for-an-update/
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I am trying to get my Streak replaced because of a 3 button flash, SIM in, restart loop. I got a refurbished unit this week that has the exact same issue and the Dell rep I talked to today said new Streak 5s were currently showing as unavailable.
She is supposed to call me back. I am going to ask if I can just wait for them to ship a new unit instead of sending me another refurb.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dell...ould-Be-Back-in-Stores-in-August-212904.shtml
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Engadget says that they spoke to a Dell Rep and he/she told them that Dell was doing an update on the Streak 5 and that is why it was pulled.
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For Delll to pull the Streak from inventory, I wonder what the update is? I "just" bought another Streak the last week in June, wish I knew of an update before then...
Is it something that gets sent out to others or is it a physical device update?
The Endgadget article mentions that the update has nothing to do with Android, so it's hardware related. I already speculated that Dell was going with non-removable internal storage to replace the MicroSD.
Dell called back and the rep said they are sending me a new Streak. We will see what's what when it arrives.
I have a feeling it has something to do with the screen being super dodgy when it gets hot or has been in your pocket for a while. In another thread someone posted a link to a site where the military is looking into the streak. The last thing a soldier trapped in some sand dune in Afghanistan needs is a phone that wont unlock.
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I have a feeling it has something to do with the screen being super dodgy when it gets hot or has been in your pocket for a while. In another thread someone posted a link to a site where the military is looking into the streak. The last thing a soldier trapped in some sand dune in Afghanistan needs is a phone that wont unlock.
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just curious, what is the average temp over there?
[email protected] said:
just curious, what is the average temp over there?
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Not as hot as I thought. Average temp in July and August is 91.
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metal1f3 said:
Not as hot as I thought. Average temp in July and August is 91.
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As I said in another thread, put the Streak in your pockets with the screen facing outwards. That will take care of the unlocking problem. We have 95 degrees and close to 100% humidity, and it always works now.
HansTWN said:
As I said in another thread, put the Streak in your pockets with the screen facing outwards. That will take care of the unlocking problem. We have 95 degrees and close to 100% humidity, and it always works now.
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I too have found work arounds. The point is you shouldn't have to have works arounds. I think that the "update" is quality control, and fixing the screen issue could be the reason. Another pro tip. Sometimes grazing the phone along your arm discharges the static built up in the screen and will allow you to then unlock it.
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I just read on Forbes' website that Dell will be building "tablet-phones, based on the Streak 5", for Baidu Yi (Baidu Yi is the Chinese equivalent of Google (China's predominate internet search engine). The article went on to say the new OS will be Android-based, but will be stripped of all Google services (but will still run Android Marketplace apps).
This is great news for us.... China has, by far the largest mobile device/phone user base.... much larger than the U.S., so further development for our devices from Dell may actually happen (can't hurt, right?)
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/06/baidu-dell-join-forces-to-produce-line-of-smartphones-and-table/
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Borijess..... thanks for the link.... Here's another one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392450,00.asp
I'm sure the Streak will sell better there than here in the US.... just because the market is about 4x larger (unless Dell overprices it). Who knows, maybe one day there will be a Streak 2
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Take a look at this.
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/9/5/dell-planning-streak-5-successor/
Hey Htc..... THAT'S GREAT!!! I'm hoping Dell will have more Streak success in other parts of the world so they don't abandon the 5-inch platform in future development.... It's like Grandpa H used to say.... "the pioneers take all of the arrows but they also get all of the land" With larger-screened phones becoming more the trend nowadays, I'm confident Dell would do much better with a "Streak 2" (provided they advertise it and above ALL else, make it available on other carriers in addition to aTnT)
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Its ironic that Dell decides to drop the Streak 5 in the U.S. only when other carriers are stocking 5" screen devices. I cant recall any other phone device that was yanked from the u.s. Market only. Still cant get what dell was thinking!
I wonder if that's why Samsung has "No plans" to release the Note in the US- because the streak apparently failed...
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Let's Be Honest!
I have a streak, and it:
-doesn't look very good,
-doesn't feel very good in your hands if its not in landscape because of its curves and weight ,
-it doesn't have a particularly good screen either.
But I love it! -and that doesn't mean it ticks Everyone's boxes. The only box it Ticks for me is the: Big Screen, and Thats it! If they'd change these things, I'm sure it would of been a hit!
Samsung saying they have no plans for The Note in the us does not meat they wont sell it in the US.
Well zsolt, I happen to like the appearance of my Streak as do others, because I'm constantly complimented by people who say how cool my phone looks..... and I pretty much always use it in portrait mode. Maybe you have unusually small hands or I'm the true freak here However, I do agree the screen resolution could be higher....
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This title pretty much says it all...
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/13/michael-dell-android-developed-expectations/
Don't be waiting for The Opus One.
To tell you the truth I wasn't.
Im waiting for the:
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zsolti256 said:
This title pretty much says it all...
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/13/michael-dell-android-developed-expectations/
Don't be waiting for The Opus One.
To tell you the truth I wasn't.
Im waiting for the:
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Me too!
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In the case of our unit, don't you actually have to market the damn thing if you want Android to meet your expectations?
Dell has yet to market ANY of it's mobile devices,
strangely though the venue pro is doing a lot better then the venue, even though the venue pro had a really hard start in life.
It might be the largest userbase behind the s5, though granted the wp7 market has a lot less devices overall so it's not as diffucult to not be flooded by millions of devices unlike on android
I gave up waiting for 2.2, I gave up completely for 2.3, I gave up on the update to the streak, I'm GIVING UP on Dell. Samsung note will be my next device when it hits the states.
I think Dell was trying to sell its mobile phones using the same sales model they used when selling PCs. They didn't take into account the many, many more variables that affect mobile phone purchases (carrier first, then platform, then leading edge hardware). They, I think, wrongly assumed, "People are buying alot of Android phones, and since we're Dell, if we make them, people will buy them". Let Dell go back to Microsoft.... I mean they've been in bed together for decades..... Mr. Dell just is reluctant to admit fault.... "We're Dell..... no one is buying our phones so it MUST be Android's fault" LOL
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Who cares BTW if it's Android 1.6 or 2.2. What's the difference?
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It would help if they actually followed the development cycle and released the updates, where is 2.3.3, 2.3.4 and so on?
A device stuck with a older version of the OS is always going to be less popular.
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I think Dell was trying to sell its mobile phones using the same sales model they used when selling PCs. They didn't take into account the many, many more variables that affect mobile phone purchases (carrier first, then platform, then leading edge hardware). They, I think, wrongly assumed, "People are buying alot of Android phones, and since we're Dell, if we make them, people will buy them". Let Dell go back to Microsoft.... I mean they've been in bed together for decades..... Mr. Dell just is reluctant to admit fault.... "We're Dell..... no one is buying our phones so it MUST be Android's fault" LOL
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Yeah, thats exactly it
There is this saying don't hate the player, hate the game. I think. But in this case , its the other way around Yeah, people that cant admit there made a mistake, not updating the software, or at least doing some market hype.
It seems like Dell isn't very appealing because of the style, and its openness to software. Plus , back then Android wasn't that popular that you can could sell a heavy 5" phone, But now days with the right specs, you just watch ...
In short, they are too lazy, There going for the surely win route, I think. Thats why they are going for the Win8 tablet.
Dell must have new PR manager
if dell stepped up the hardware, maybe some IPS, super AMOLED+, 8+MP cam anyone? make Streak 7 a bit thinner.. release with stock Android and get updates out on time, and maybe unlock bootloaders, etc. oh yeah and advertise!! They could be moving units.. Streak 7 likely last piece of anything Dell I own for a good long time..
One thing I will say, however, is my cousin has the Dell WindowsPhone "Venue Pro".... and that phone is truly a THING OF BEAUTY (no kiddin). I've read on more than one reputable site that it may in fact be "the best WindowsPhone available" (believe it or not). Not only is it extremely well-made, but it feels like you could drive nails with it and not hurt it. Such a shame it's running that G-damned lame-as-**** Windows OS.
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One thing I will say, however, is my cousin has the Dell WindowsPhone "Venue Pro".... and that phone is truly a THING OF BEAUTY (no kiddin). I've read on more than one reputable site that it may in fact be "the best WindowsPhone available" (believe it or not). Not only is it extremely well-made, but it feels like you could drive nails with it and not hurt it. Such a shame it's running that G-damned lame-as-**** Windows OS.
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Personally I will never buy another windows phone. Was very glad of the android transition to revert, even if windows "finally" did something about their quirky, sticky, freezing between processing and my alltime fav "random non-response touchscreen moments".
But Dell F'd up once with bad promo and had monkies doing their PR. Dell f'd a secomd time making the announcement about. "Dell has pulled the streak from its current inventory ...stay tuned for a special announcement.." Leaving us to believe our trusty ole Streaks were called in for some "innerds overhaul" only to hear that its been pulled from the U.S. market.
Dell f'd a third time releasing a DELL STREAK PRO, much smaller screen and device, looks like a cookie-cut replicate of most other phones, lost all its streak5 features.
I am looking for info on how to get my hands on the ViewSonic tab/phone.
Time to put ole Dell out to third-world pastures
Personally my opinion is not one to count on Dell's conscious but here it goes, first of all they didn't even make the product they just slapped their name on it and try to get as many sales as they could two once their product crashed on 2.2 faster than an angry bird into a wall they knew if they didn't pull it they would get a bad name and three dell doesn't care about their customer cause if they did they would admit to making a bad product and see how they can go ahead and fix their problem extend warranties on bad units, fix 2.2 issues an apology for stealing your money oh wait it's not stealing it's business. Okay well from now on Samsung has my business and I will steal from Dell by letting one know everytime they see my Streak "what the hack is that thing" saying the worst investment you can ever make"
@Chamo4u2: Dell's conscience and the fact they only put their name on the Streak aside, I'd like to find out where you get this impression they pulled the Streak because of crashes. Now I've owned a Streak since April. It came with 2.2.2 347 preinstalled. In that time frame I've upgraded the ROM to 351 and 360, after having to reinstall 347 twice due to mistakes I made in tweaking the ROM for my tastes. At no time have I encountered force close issues, thus I don't believe their ROMs are the problem. Since my experience flatly contradicts yours, what is different about your Streak compared to mine?
The Streak was discontinued in the original countries where it was released. Dell has released the Streak in Asian countries this year, meaning for those countries the Streak is new. If the Streak were pulled because of software problems, Dell would not have released it in Asia. Thus your statement that the Streak was pulled due to crashes is demonstrably false.
The Streak is actually a decent device that was saddled with poor marketing decisions made by Dell. Of course this assumes that the Streak was actually marketed, when we know it wasn't. Had Dell put any effort into promoting the Streak in television commercials, had put Streaks in AT&T stores, and had actually sold the device with 2.1 from the start instead of 1.6 we likely would not be having this discussion.
Despite the lack of marketing and despite Michael Dell's comments, apparently Dell does still care about the consumers. As most people reading this forum know, Dell released the sources to a Gingerbread kernel. According to DJ Steve those sources have been in his possession for over a week now. With Dell releasing the kernel, can official Gingerbread ROMs be far behind?
P.S. You've got to work a bit on the punctuation buddy. I almost ignored your post because I had so much difficulty reading it.
can official Gingerbread ROMs be far behind?
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i hope so ive got my streak till march (wifes 18 month contract) & i would like my phone to end its days with gingerbread
I'm with Strephon...... I've had my factory-installed Froyo Streak since last April and it's been one of the most stable Android phones I've ever owned (seriously).... And I've owned EVERY T-Mobile Android phone available (MyTouch Slide, MyTouch 4G, Nexus, G2, LG G2x). I blame the US Streak's downfall on non-existent marketing and offering it carrier-subsidized only on aTnT. Up until they lost iCrap exclusivity, they would actually try and talk new customers out of buying anything Android (I witnessed this myself).....
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I experienced that firsthand, and got so pissed I left the store. If there is one thing I cannot stand it's being lied to, and the AT&T "salesperson" did exactly that in trying to dissuade me from going with Android.
Pledging support for Microsoft and Windows 8,
That's the key phrase there, it means they've done a deal with M$ and knocking Android is a way of passing the buck for their past failure on to Google.
lolwut
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Who cares BTW if it's Android 1.6 or 2.2. What's the difference?
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How are you a senior member? Did you seriously just ask what the difference between 1.6 and 2.2 is?
UPDATE 1/15/2013:
Dell Going Private:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...to-end-public-scrutiny-25-years-post-ipo-tech
Dell Quits Smartphone Business:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2012/12/12/dell-quits-smartphone-business-globally-android/
Reaffirms the fact that Dell missed a golden opportunity with the Dell Streak and Venue lines. Things like this happen when you're a large corporation incapable of quickly adapting to a changing environment.
How does this affect our phones in particular?
Would it not be "a good way to go" to release all sources/other materials to the community? Would that be of any help at the current state of affairs?
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heh.. you dont need to worry bout that... as long as xda is here, something would come out .. tho i am not putting any expectation to it...
whatever have been done by xda member here especially the developer is priceless
I do not care about this cuz we have xda :thumbup:
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Also to whoever has one, get ready to see prices go up when you're ready to sell :thumbup:
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They've already had plans to exit the smartphone/tablet sector over a year ago.
(WinRT tabs likely are handled by their windows division)
Look at their roadmaps and what they delivered: there hasnt been a single thing out from them since the launch of the SPro.
Not even android updates, which means that the S10 is stuck on HC and the SPro is stuck on GB while they're both only about a year old each.
in that case we all streak owner should pressure Dell to release all the data to the developer. i dying want full working ICS or JB on my streak!
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in that case we all streak owner should pressure Dell to release all the data to the developer. i dying want full working ICS or JB on my streak!
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Dell is the wrong target. They probably don't have any sources at all. It doesn't matter if Dell stopps their android-future, they are basically resellers. The company qisda (former benq) is still manufactoring the next generation of these devices and sell them on asian markets (example: Sky IM-T100K Vega NO.5) . They won't give us hardware specific sources on the austin-plattform, as long are descendants out there which could - for example - be unlocked with the full knowleage about the Streak.
Its better that they drop the Business, their devices are quite bad. I had a streak 7 and it was
a pain in the a$$. But they should release the data, so good developers could make a usable rom
Well, I have a number of other android devices, and even if less powerful, my DS5 still for some reason is my favourite. The screen is gorgeous and battery life is more than OK. For as long as we continue to get updates from our beloved developers, my Streaks are here to stay. I would say more: every time someone sells their device and pushes the second hand prices down a little bit, I get happier: eventually I will be retro-upgrading my entire family and friends to great DS5s!
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Its better that they drop the Business, their devices are quite bad. I had a streak 7 and it was
a pain in the a$$. But they should release the data, so good developers could make a usable rom
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There was nothing pain in the butt about the 7 for anyone that bothered to take the time to learn a little... I have 2 of them and except for the resolution its just as nice as my Nexus 7
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Anyone else want to throw up when they read about how Samsung invented the "phablet" (Galaxy Note)? Dell crashed and burned in a market that could have been very lucrative for them.
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Anyone else want to throw up when they read about how Samsung invented the "phablet" (Galaxy Note)? Dell crashed and burned in a market that could have been very lucrative for them.
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I used to
But i i think if Samsung is bold enough for that - they have the right, it's business world.
And Samsung makes phones and don't outsource the whole thing.
In short: Dell didn't know what it selled. And Samsung knows.
I hope this makes sense
Makes perfect sense to me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/08/2013-year-phablet
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Makes perfect sense to me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/08/2013-year-phablet
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Nice article, we were trendsetters and (I) knew that back then, only Dell didn't knew what they had and kept calling it a mini tablet
I'm not into conspiracy, but:
Note was released right after Streak EOL'ed.
Streak had good sales in at least GB (afaik).
Dell didn't market the device right.
As for Note it was a real marketing spree even here, in Ukraine.
Maybe a corporate deal?
We have Gingerbread due to Olleh stock leftovers. And two Indian coders.
Dell is not really opensource and that's not good.
Judging from tech responces i had for my requests - tech sup fully located in India and i didn't get an answer - only kernel source folder was renamed
Next, PC/desktop end even server market is dying now due to cloud computing and changes to the way the people work with data now.
Our company itself moved about 1000 accounts to Google, effectively minimizing support costs.
Dell still has a chance, but hooking with Windows 8 RT is not wise - as Windows is mostly used for obsolete/legacy/outdated accounting software (at least here) and RT is just not compatible with x86 code. And Microsoft cares only for their only profit. Nokia (i think most possibly prolific MS partner, and it's brand still valuable here) tries to remarket already available solutions from other cloud vendors by giving them fancy names. It's fun
Dell will follow HP if they won't get to the train.
And i don't really know why did i write all this
Dell hoisted themselves on their own petard by ditching Android in favor of Windows RT. It's like I said when this post first appeared.
"Things like this happen when you're a large corporation incapable of quickly adapting to a changing environment."
Dell banking on Windows 8 RT to prop up its business is proof that they are not adapting quickly enough. Tablets with Windows 8 RT or even full-blown Windows 8 simply are not selling well, no matter how much Microsoft candy-coats the numbers. Windows 8 and Windows RT tablets are too heavy and too power hungry for the average consumer to want to use for an extended period of time.
Dell are slowly coming to grips with the fact that customer computing habits have changed, but the changes they are making are incremental, and only designed to retain their existing business. They had an opportunity to be at the forefront of the new wave of computing by offering a device in a convenient form factor. Now they're simply irrelevant.