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I hate to say it but I am having 3g issues. By that I mean no 3g and one to two bars. Usually I have perfect reception.
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i've noticed on the incredible that my displayed signal strength isn't as strong as it is on my droid. haven't noticed a difference in call reception or data speeds though...yet.
Eris users have noticed the same thing as you bzbz when compared to the Droid. Could be the cpu or something else HTC vs Motorola.
i've noticed on the incredible that my displayed signal strength isn't as strong as it is on my droid. haven't noticed a difference in call reception or data speeds though...yet.
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I noticed the same thing but my download/upload speeds are just as fast if not faster. I gave my Droid to my mom and took her upgrade so I have both side by side, off WiFi downloading a movie and the Incredible is actually 20-50kbs faster than my old Droid and yes the Droid is over clocked with petes 1ghz kernel.
I have had the Incredible for a couple of days, and I've noticed a lower displayed signal strength than I'd see on my Droid in the same locations.
But I've not experienced any reception issues, and my internet speed seems the same or faster.
This is what I expected. We all know that you can't count on those reception bars to compare different phones, and also that Moto tends to have better radios/reception than everyone else anyway. As long as you're phone's radio is close to Moto's in the ability to make/receive calls, then normally you're not doing bad.
well it's good to know that the signal strength concern may be more of a "cosmetic" issue than a legitimate performance issue.
daftlush said:
I hate to say it but I am having 3g issues. By that I mean no 3g and one to two bars. Usually I have perfect reception.
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how is the quality on said reception? Other people's replies seem to indicate good quality even with less bars.
BzBz said:
well it's good to know that the signal strength concern may be more of a "cosmetic" issue than a legitimate performance issue.
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This...
It is definitely cosmetic, the newest radio i have installed on my eris does the same. The reception on my eris is better then my friends with the older radio, but he has more 3G bars.
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how is the quality on said reception? Other people's replies seem to indicate good quality even with less bars.
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It may just be the way HTC displays the signal. I know on the Touch Pro 2 and Touch Pro, the signal indicator frequently shows incorrect (lower) signal strength but works fine.
I compared signal strength between my BB Curve 8330 and my new Incredible.
In spite of the indicated signal strength being lower on the Incredible, the dBm was the same. It's only one location and one user, but I suspect it's not an actual signal strength issue.
i used my incredible all day. i work in a downtown area with many tall building surrounded and i still got a good 3g signal and speed.
from Boston.
the 3G speeds on my incredible are slower that my 2G G1 running on AT&T. i get les than 200 kbps downstream. My friend with a droid standing in the same room will get aound 1100 Kbps. What gives??
if you are haveing a tough time with a signal.. I update my roaming towers... I had an issue today where I couldn't get much.. I did *228 option 2 and it updated my roaming towers and have had no problems since... sometimes you need to do that with a new phone so it knows exactly what towers to look for
tried the *228 to update. Update was successful but no improvment. still have very slow data speeds and terrible call quality. reception stays about around -100 dBm
I'm also noticing what appears to be poor reception. I was getting better reception with my Droid than I am with Incredible. I've tried the *228 last night and this morning but that hasn't helped. Hopefully there will eventually be some kind of software fix for this. I'm seeing other threads on other sites with the same kind of complaints so I don't think it's a select few who are experiencing this issue.
hoop762 said:
the 3G speeds on my incredible are slower that my 2G G1 running on AT&T. i get les than 200 kbps downstream. My friend with a droid standing in the same room will get aound 1100 Kbps. What gives??
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Your speed will depend on what tower your connected to. on my Eris, I've gone from 1mbps/0.70mbps in New York, NY to 2mbps/2mbps in West Haven, CT. It's not the phone. The newer radio on the Incredible will show less bars, but your signal strength will be fine .(dBm)
My phone keeps dropping 3G my droid never has done this in the location the incredible is. I will go into airplane mode then back out and I will have 3g again
Over at Androidforums there is a thread going regarding reception issues. On page 2 is some help in running a debug on the phone that will give you dbm levels and some other info. I'm not sure how to use the info the debug gives but perhaps it may be of some use to someone here.
The link is http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/70223-weak-signal-strength.html
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Over at Androidforums there is a thread going regarding reception issues. On page 2 is some help in running a debug on the phone that will give you dbm levels and some other info. I'm not sure how to use the info the debug gives but perhaps it may be of some use to someone here.
The link is http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/70223-weak-signal-strength.html
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You don't need to go into field test mode like this guy said, all you need to do is from the home screen > menu > setting > about phone > network.
Here you will see signal strength (typical between -100 to -80dBm) the closer to 0 you are the better your signal is (ie: 80dBm > 90dBm)
Hope that clears up some confusion. I've tested both the motodroid and the incredible side by side in a location with low signal and can say that my incredible gets better signal than the droid, even though the "bars" don't indicate as such.
my signal always stays at -81, is that a good thing?
im a new android and 3g user
Hey,
I seem to experiencing poor signal strength when on 3G UMTS. 2G GSM seems to achieve much better signal strength for some reason.
I have never seen 4 bars of signal that I once got with my HTC Desire. On the Droid Pro its always flirting with 1-2 bars.
Signal strength in Status reveals around 75-90dB and never better... The area I am in is completely saturated with towers (downtown Toronto).
Is this a software issue or should I take my phone back to the store for warranty / exchange?
Same problem
Hi,
I'm having the exact same problem - have tried it in two countries now, with two different sim cards, and had the same issue. GSM gets 4 bars - UMTS gets 1 or 2 max, or simply none. At the moment I have zero bars and over 100 dbm. Currently on E-Plus network in Germany.
Any help would be most appreciated... many thanks in advance.
The same in different countries tried all ROMs starting from 2.x.x to 2.3.3 - no difference.
Change from global to gsm mode
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From the first day it is in gsm mode.
Anyone else noticing a lower signal reception with this phone?
I am coming from an iPhone 4. Previously at my house I was at 4-5 bars, now 2-3.
At my work I usually had 2-3 bars, now I get no signal to 1 bar.
I was trying really hard to enjoy the phone but now that I have seen the signal at my work I think it's going to have to go back
I wonder if the Inspire would get a better signal.
Update: It's not just the bars, I make calls and texts regularly at work with my iPhone and have never had a problem. With the Atrix it is dropping to no service and I can not make a call or text.
I was just noticing this same thin as well, i'm coming a captivate and where i normally have full service, the atrix gives me 2-3 bars. That said however, i don't notice much of a difference, if any at all, in the speed of things
Signal bars are different from phone to phone. I wouldn't trust those to much. However I find this behavior odd as I get better reception on this phone vs my old one. A lot better as in 2 - 3 bars better. Were you able to make calls on you iphone when it actually had the 1 - 2 bars at your office?
Vaires from phone to phone, remember when iPhone 4 showed higher signal then it was supposed to? then apple pushed the update
Yeah I made calls and texted regularly in my office, with the Atrix it drops service enitrely (says no service) and I can't make a call or send a text
I wouldnt care about the bar difference if it wasn't for the actual no service vs never having a problem.
That is interesting , my captivate had 0 to no service in my office, while the atrix has atleast 3 bars of edge.
crawlgsx said:
Anyone else noticing a lower signal reception with this phone?
I am coming from an iPhone 4. Previously at my house I was at 4-5 bars, now 2-3.
At my work I usually had 2-3 bars, now I get no signal to 1 bar.
I was trying really hard to enjoy the phone but now that I have seen the signal at my work I think it's going to have to go back
I wonder if the Inspire would get a better signal.
Update: It's not just the bars, I make calls and texts regularly at work with my iPhone and have never had a problem. With the Atrix it is dropping to no service and I can not make a call or text.
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Comparing using the bars is not going to work across different phones, besides the iPhone 4 was known for reporting more bars then other phones.
In Android go to Menu > Settings > About Phone > Status and note the signal strength.
On Verizon you could update what they call "roaming capabilities". It's not really roaming, its more like manually updating or sync'ing tower or geographic locations. It's supposed to help some issues with signal strength.
Does ATT have a method to manually re-sync in this fashion?
HAROLDS Did u even read the bottom of my post?
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That is interesting , my captivate had 0 to no service in my office, while the atrix has atleast 3 bars of edge.
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i think that means your Captivate still tries to look for a 3G signal but the Atrix is so weak that it cannot find any 3G signal and therefore it automatically starts looking for the Edge signal.
I am saying this because I also noticed the same behavior inside my apt building elevator.
This is interesting. I guess I'll find out tomorrow, but several of my friends and I have been noticing that deadspots with our N1's and Captivates. Like no signal, no voice, no text, no data. In the same locations iPhone 4's are good to go on everything. I volunteered to be the guy that gets an Atrix to see how it does. This thread has me worried.
Does anyone have a problem with their Nexus 4 signal strength?
I have Bell Canada, which is supposedly has the best coverage in Canada, I live in the suburbs of a relatively large city and I often see no bars at all. I'm sitting on my couch right now and the signal strength is ranging from -97 dBm to -110 dBm.
Do 2.4 Ghz band devices interfere at all? I have bunch of portable phones and 2 routers, so maybe this is related?
Nexus 4 on T-Mobile
I am in Portland OR in an area of good signal according to T-MO but my nexus rarely shows any signal bars inside my house. This is my 3rd N-4. T-Mo says they have great signal in my area.... so what gives with this signal thing?
My reception has been wonky ever since the 4.2.2 and baseband update.
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I am in Portland OR in an area of good signal according to T-MO but my nexus rarely shows any signal bars inside my house. This is my 3rd N-4. T-Mo says they have great signal in my area.... so what gives with this signal thing?
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I get 1-2 bars in my house usually between 95-105 db, outside I get low 80's and full or near full at all times. Even though my bars inside top out at 2 I have still managed to pull up to 13 Mbps but thats on a sunny day. Didn't see any results above 9 Mbps today. I live on the outskirts of a not so major city so I can't really complain. One minute I'm pulling 10 Mbps and the other I'm only getting like 200 Kbps though, but it's all good enough for what I need it for and I can't complain since its only $30/month. I just transferred from Virgin Mobile after their "upgrade" resulted in me and many other of their customers losing data for the last 3 weeks and to this date its still not fixed! Their "3G" speeds were atrocious, I've pulled higher speeds off of T-Mobiles 2G network.
I hear a lot of us who are on 4.2.2 and baseband .48 have had issues so I'm thinking its either a major software issue with the radio firmware that hasn't been addressed yet in any revision or it could be a major hardware issue as well as I flashed .27, .33, and .48 and noticed no differences. I had to set my phone to WCDMA Only to get it to maintain a good connection, otherwise HSPA/HSPA+ would just cut out after 2 minutes of use and revert to 2G or have no data at all for 5-10 minutes. After switching to WCDMA Only this problem went away completely and I haven't lost a signal since. For whatever reason it picks up more adjacent towers as well on this setting.
I have that kind of problem also though I notice it only when the signal is weak.
It goes from -99dbm to -111dbm with no reason. My other phone (Defy) keeps a good -97 at the same spot without any fluctuation.
I will try to switch to wcdma only.
I received my XT1053 T-Mobile Moto X this past Thursday and have been having signal issues since then.
People I've spoken to notified me that voice quality they heard was choppy, although I heard them fine.
I also noticed that I've been getting anywhere from -95 to -105 dBm, while my old phone and other phones receive -65 dBm to -75 dBm around the house.
These numbers are within my house and outside my house.
I'm running unrooted/all OTAs. Safe to assume something wrong with this particular phone?
Edit: When I set to network type to GPRS (2G), I'm getting a good -58 dBm. When I put it back on LTE I'm getting -100 dBm again.
So when I'm on LTE its just not connecting to the closer tower?
xal33x said:
I received my XT1053 T-Mobile Moto X this past Thursday and have been having signal issues since then.
People I've spoken to notified me that voice quality they heard was choppy, although I heard them fine.
I also noticed that I've been getting anywhere from -95 to -105 dBm, while my old phone and other phones receive -65 dBm to -75 dBm around the house.
These numbers are within my house and outside my house.
I'm running unrooted/all OTAs. Safe to assume something wrong with this particular phone?
Edit: When I set to network type to GPRS (2G), I'm getting a good -58 dBm. When I put it back on LTE I'm getting -100 dBm again.
So when I'm on LTE its just not connecting to the closer tower?
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I've had the same problem on 3 moto x's. I think its only the tmo version that has this problem since no one else is complaining about it.
EDIT: Maybe not the same problem. Mine happens on HSPA and EDGE as well. It looses signal completely for hours.
The way an LTE signal strength is measured is not the same as 2G or 3G, that can explain quite a large db difference. Voice calls don't use LTE right now, your phone will switch back to HSPA/WCDMA/2G for voice.
Im on a dev edition verizon phone. Ive noticed Im getting average 103 dbm lte where as my other phones are at about 97. Voice 3G is about 85db which is good. Wondering if there isnt something wrong.
Steve-x said:
The way an LTE signal strength is measured is not the same as 2G or 3G, that can explain quite a large db difference. Voice calls don't use LTE right now, your phone will switch back to HSPA/WCDMA/2G for voice.
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You're right. It does switch to HSPA+ and signal strength does increase back to -60 dBm while I'm talking.
So the phone shows 2 bars while I'm not on a call is simply because signal strength is measured differently and it doesn't take into account the different network type?
I wonder why two different people on two different days told me they were hearing me pretty choppy (I heard them fine) and I even had a dropped call, all within like 3 days of owning the phone, with pretty much no issues that I can remember with my previous phone (it was an HSPA+ phone).
I'm not sure what to do...
xal33x said:
You're right. It does switch to HSPA+ and signal strength does increase back to -60 dBm while I'm talking.
So the phone shows 2 bars while I'm not on a call is simply because signal strength is measured differently and it doesn't take into account the different network type?
I wonder why two different people on two different days told me they were hearing me pretty choppy (I heard them fine) and I even had a dropped call, all within like 3 days of owning the phone, with pretty much no issues that I can remember with my previous phone (it was an HSPA+ phone).
I'm not sure what to do...
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Maybe turn off voice privacy in phone settings.
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I agree with the poster that LTE is just measured differently.
I have the N5, HTC One, and Moto X and they are both usually is the 90s or 100s for LTE. The X is usually 5-10 dbm better than either the N5 or One.
Best reception phone Ive had thus far :laugh: