Alright. I've been searching the FAQs and forums and would like someone(s) to set me straight on the following:
1. The Dell Steak is currently being sold in the UK direct from Dell _unlocked_ and also via O2 on or off contract. The _unlocked_ version is not just sim free but can be used on any GSM network that the UK version supports (T-Mobile UK, e.g.). True or False? If true, out-of-the-box (OOB), rooted and special ROM, or SmartSim?
2. If this is true what is this O2 exclusive deal with Dell and which phones are they 'blacklisting' if someone tries to use a SmartSim or similar?
3. If T-Mobile in the UK and US use the same frequencies, would an unlocked Streak from the UK work on T-Mobile in the US with a US sim?
4. If AT&T is the exclusive carrier in the US when it is released, then does anyone really expect Dell to sell an unlocked version? Aren't we really planning on seeing just a contract/no contract price for the same version?
Sorry if that's a lot for a single post, but it all seems related and didn't make sense to split up.
The phones that 02 sell are LOCKED and will not be unlocked by them in the near Future. It will work with a Rebel Sim on any network in the UK so i am told.
The ones from Dell are UNLOCKED and can run on any Sim in the UK
Now i have not read of any one from the US getting a Unlocked streak from the UK and using it it in the US
They have just started selling them in France and Germany locked, not sure about unlocked
I have trawled through the Internet and have not come across a UK one working in the USA
Direct from Dell Streaks are SIM free and unlocked out of the box, mine works fine on T-Mobile UK.
O2's exclusive deal was for a limited period and expired at the beginning of July I believe.
T-Mobile UK and US operate on different bands, specifically the US requires the 1700 band for downstream data.
I believe Dell US had a pre-order page on their website which suggests they will be available unlocked from launch there. Probably because they will only work on AT&T's network for 3G its probably not worth them going to the trouble of an exclusive deal.
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Thanks
Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully the tags will help others find the same answers.
In France they are unlocked
lufc said:
The phones that 02 sell are LOCKED and will not be unlocked by them in the near Future. It will work with a Rebel Sim on any network in the UK so i am told.
The ones from Dell are UNLOCKED and can run on any Sim in the UK
Now i have not read of any one from the US getting a Unlocked streak from the UK and using it it in the US
They have just started selling them in France and Germany locked, not sure about unlocked
I have trawled through the Internet and have not come across a UK one working in the USA
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What are the prices and url link for the unlocked Streak direct from Dell in UK?
In France?
Thanks
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Hello,
Thank you upfront to anyone who can answer my questions. Bleeding edge is vague and a lot of hearsay at times; it's nice to have simple, straight-forward, and accurate answers on this site.
I have T-Mobile in the USA; I'd prefer not to change. I see reports the Streak will only work with 3G from ATT and be limited to EDGE on T-Mobile. Is this true? Ack!
If so, I have some questions I wonder if people know the answer to:
1.) Likelihood 3G support will be added (via radio firmware or something) for T-Mobile? Will they have a different model I'll have to buy?
2.) I see screen shots of some power users on this forum running T-Mobile 3G. Is this because it is the UK version on the UK network?
3.) If I get the UK version, will it work on T-Mobile's 3G here in the USA? Any danger in using the UK model in the USA?
Cheers!
Kyle
Yes it is t mobile UK and the specs have not been fully released yet for the US so its only speculation as what is on it and only some one from the US can answer the US questions about if it will work on t mobile US as i am from across the pond, but what i will say is the t mobile UK ones are either working with an unlocked streak or a rebel Sim so don't know if that will help you
Some of the posts I have seen for TMOUS running Rebel sim, is NO it does not work yet. I am sure it will work soon.
Dear All,
I am planning to get a Streak (UK version) unlocked
i would like to know what is the major difference between a locked and an unlocked version?
i just know that a locked version doesnt not support other networks (e.g. O2 Streak doesnt allow Vodafone and etc sim cards to work)
other than this, are there any other main differences?
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i am currently in Hong Kong, there is a Streak offer (O2 unlocked version) and i would like to get it this week or so...
i am just afraid that the "3G/Data/HSPA" etc will not work... so i would like to know the locked/unlocked differences
i hope everyone could help me out and welcome me to the Dell Streak family
thanks all
basically no.
that is the major difference.
unlocked: use on any network
sim only from o2/cpw locked to o2
unlocked: minus any bloatware that o2 may put on their version.
flumps said:
basically no.
that is the major difference.
unlocked: use on any network
sim only from o2/cpw locked to o2
unlocked: minus any bloatware that o2 may put on their version.
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thanks for the reply, but let me get this straight...
so the unlocked version which i will be getting, i will be able to use ANY SIM card and use the 3G/Data/HSPA provided too, right?
just to confirm myself, thanks
zgmf-x322a said:
so the unlocked version which i will be getting, i will be able to use ANY SIM card and use the 3G/Data/HSPA provided too, right?
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Yes.
I have an unlocked UK model from Dell directly and I have no problems with Polish and Spanish SIM cards.
smokku said:
Yes.
I have an unlocked UK model from Dell directly and I have no problems with Polish and Spanish SIM cards.
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Sweet!! U guys gad made things more clearer.
Thank u n flumps for the help.. appreciate it alot
smokku said:
Yes.
I have an unlocked UK model from Dell directly and I have no problems with Polish and Spanish SIM cards.
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Thanks for answering my question too - I want to use the Dell Streak satnav in Spain with a local SIM (unless O2 offers a sweet deal on roaming rates with its Telefonica parent?? But I rather doubt it).
no guarantees on 3g unless hong kong uses the same 3g band.
Hi Guys,
Thanks to the lovely people at AT&T, I'm not the proud owner of an unlocked Dell Streak
They gave me an unlock code over the phone
BIG THUMBS UP AND MANY THANKS TO AT&T
Nice. How did you get them to give you the code?
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Nice. How did you get them to give you the code?
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I just asked them for it, they were actually really helpful. I gave them my IMEI, they put me on hold and 2 minutes later my Streak was unlocked
That's great news!
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I just asked them for it, they were actually really helpful. I gave them my IMEI, they put me on hold and 2 minutes later my Streak was unlocked
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...but, correct me if I'm wrong, other than ATT US and Telstra (who both use the 850mhz UMTS band), you won't get 3G on any other provider. Right? So what are going to do with it unlocked?
Sorry but I'm still lost as to why folks are selling (and buying) the Streak unlocked or trying to get it unlocked by their carrier. I usually ONLY buy unlocked phones and use them on ATT; but I didn't see the reason to buy the Streak unlocked. It's not a dual, tri or quad band 3G phone.
and rogers in canada. but it doesnt matter. you can still do 2g gsm with any provider and in any country.
technillion said:
...but, correct me if I'm wrong, other than ATT US and Telstra (who both use the 850mhz UMTS band), you won't get 3G on any other provider. Right? So what are going to do with it unlocked?
Sorry but I'm still lost as to why folks are selling (and buying) the Streak unlocked or trying to get it unlocked by their carrier. I usually ONLY buy unlocked phones and use them on ATT; but I didn't see the reason to buy the Streak unlocked. It's not a dual, tri or quad band 3G phone.
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I shall correct you...
The AT&T Streak runs 3G on tri-band 850/1900/2100. Yes, Telstra runs on 850. However, as the Streak was NETWORK locked to AT&T, if I put my Telstra sim in the phone would not work. Furthermore, Optus and Vodafone both run a 2100MHz 3G band here in cities and regional centres (even Wagga Wagga). So if I did switch carriers, I could still use it.
You ask what am I going to do with it... I plan on using it with a network other than AT&T i.e. Testra. In order to to that the phone had to be unlocked
I got this AT&T Streak unlocked so I could use it in Australia on the Telstra network. In Australia, Optus have an exclusivity deal with Dell so Telstra do not sell the Streak. Does that clear up with you why I got this phone unlocked? Because when it was locked to AT&T, I could not use it. Now it is unlocked, I can. Simple...
Kris
Got it!!
Krisbo said:
I shall correct you...
The AT&T Streak runs 3G on tri-band 850/1900/2100. Yes, Telstra runs on 850. However, as the Streak was NETWORK locked to AT&T, if I put my Telstra sim in the phone would not work. Furthermore, Optus and Vodafone both run a 2100MHz 3G band here in cities and regional centres (even Wagga Wagga). So if I did switch carriers, I could still use it.
You ask what am I going to do with it... I plan on using it with a network other than AT&T i.e. Testra. In order to to that the phone had to be unlocked
I got this AT&T Streak unlocked so I could use it in Australia on the Telstra network. In Australia, Optus have an exclusivity deal with Dell so Telstra do not sell the Streak. Does that clear up with you why I got this phone unlocked? Because when it was locked to AT&T, I could not use it. Now it is unlocked, I can. Simple...
Kris
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Thanks for that explanation! I saw you were ATT and I assumed that meant you were in the US. It makes sense for you to have it unlocked to use in Wagga Wagga.
Streak and Telstra
I am wanting to upgrade from my Telstra HD2 to a Streak. I was looking at using a my Telstra sim in an 'unlocked' optus unit.I see ATT/Dell US now sell 'unlocked' Streak's.
Did you import your Streak, or should I try to get the 850 working on a Optus?
If you have heard anything regarding optus units, please post.
Thanks
Ahughes said:
I am wanting to upgrade from my Telstra HD2 to a Streak. I was looking at using a my Telstra sim in an 'unlocked' optus unit.I see ATT/Dell US now sell 'unlocked' Streak's.
Did you import your Streak, or should I try to get the 850 working on a Optus?
If you have heard anything regarding optus units, please post.
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You can't just "get the 850 working" on an Optus Streak. The the frequencies that the phone will operate on is a hardware issue and no software can change that. The Optus Streak will ONLY use the 900/2100 bands for 3G and no amount of unlocking will make it use the 850 band for 3G.
The only Streak that is compatible with the Next G network is the AT&T version and I'm not 100%, but I think the Canadian version is also 850 3G.
I imported my Streak from the USA. If you wait until the 8th of December, you could get yourself either the Black or the Cherry Red unlocked directly from Dell.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-streak/fs
The only catch is, you need to find someone who is willing to do the ordering and post it for you. This also means that you need to be really confident in the xda member you're dealing with. I recently struck a deal with Killster on this forum, although I have dealt with him in the past. Personally, I prefer the white Streak from Best Buy over the cherry red but they aren't unlocked and you need to try your luck with AT&T to get an unlock code. I have unlocked two Streaks this way but I have no idea if they will unlock the Streak from Best Buy. I have a rebel sim so it's not that big a deal anyway .
Your best be would be to offer a trade for your HD2 plus cash in the Marketplace. Just be careful though, do some research on any xda members you deal with and ALWAYS keep everything public (no dealings finalised in PM).
Hope this helps,
Kris
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You can't just "get the 850 working" on an Optus Streak. The the frequencies that the phone will operate on is a hardware issue and no software can change that. The Optus Streak will ONLY use the 900/2100 bands for 3G and no amount of unlocking will make it use the 850 band for 3G.
The only Streak that is compatible with the Next G network is the AT&T version and I'm not 100%, but I think the Canadian version is also 850 3G.
I imported my Streak from the USA. If you wait until the 8th of December, you could get yourself either the Black or the Cherry Red unlocked directly from Dell.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-streak/fs
The only catch is, you need to find someone who is willing to do the ordering and post it for you. This also means that you need to be really confident in the xda member you're dealing with. I recently struck a deal with Killster on this forum, although I have dealt with him in the past. Personally, I prefer the white Streak from Best Buy over the cherry red but they aren't unlocked and you need to try your luck with AT&T to get an unlock code. I have unlocked two Streaks this way but I have no idea if they will unlock the Streak from Best Buy. I have a rebel sim so it's not that big a deal anyway .
Your best be would be to offer a trade for your HD2 plus cash in the Marketplace. Just be careful though, do some research on any xda members you deal with and ALWAYS keep everything public (no dealings finalised in PM).
Hope this helps,
Kris
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its unlocked but no sim unlocked.. unlocked the tethering up to 8 devices.. .so u still need to get the unlock code.. its on engadget look ip up.
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its unlocked but no sim unlocked.. unlocked the tethering up to 8 devices.. .so u still need to get the unlock code.. its on engadget look ip up.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/23/dell-us-now-offering-streak-unlocked-with-froyo-in-cherry-red/
Well there you go...
Either way, it's not hard to phone AT&T and ask them for a unlock code. I can't guarantee that they'll give you one but I have already unlocked two Streaks this way
Thanks for the info guys.
I saw the Engadget post a few days back,but was unsure about a US based telco giving me an unlock code.It's worth a try.
If I have no luck getting a Dell US unit, I believe Optus only has an exclusive for another month, so Telstra may offer it..?
Vodafone AUS were very forthcoming with a (sim) unlock code for a Legend I own, so it they get the Streak I could could give them a try..
Hey Guys,
I am from the auK but travelling in the USA for a couple months and then living in Canada for a year from July, I want to pick up a sim free S4 to use that will work in the USA, Canada and the UK... From what I understand the Walmart versions are the AT&T which is the same as the Canadian ones so should work, but will this model accept sims from UK carriers also?
In the USA ill be using a Walmart family t mobile sim (not worried about data speeds here as its just for emergencies/emails)
in Canada ill probably go with The cheapest sim only rolling contract and speed will be important
in the UK ill probably go with Vodafone or EE
So, if I go get a sim free version in Walmart will I have any issues and do those S4s have any physical/software branding on them?
Cheers
No you should not have sim issues with them.
Yes, walmart phones may have Software (bloatware) on them. You can flash a generic rom to remove the software issues
As to physical branding it depends on where walmart gets its supply from.
That's good news so the LTE version and bands will be fine for Canada... Phew
Now do I buy or not!
AT&T verson Canada capiable with LTE
Tmobile version not compatible with Rogers but will work on wind and some other providers.
Cool so long as its the AT&T version it's good for Canada and any provider?
Really love everything I've seen about this phone and I'm currently looking at finding it for the best price. I'd rather keep my cheap sim only deal and buy it outright. Anyway the best price I can see around is from O2 at only £289.99 (then cashback from Quidco/Topcashback brings it down to £275). They also seem to allow unlocking to other networks (https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Handset Unlocking Form).
I've been reading here and can see that there is a way to root the phone and install a custom OS without falling into Sony's DRM trap (http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343/page13). So I can unlock it and remove any O2 specific branding their might be in the OS.
However the last thing I need to know is this. Does this model have any O2 specific branding on the phone itself (as in logo's on the casing ect?).
If anyone with the O2 model could just let me know I'd appreciate it.
I just got this phone, No O2 branding on case, boot animation is O2 bubbles and a couple of apps inside.
But the biggest setback is the service configuration for Boot loader unlock allowed = NO
So I think I can get root but that all! :crying:
Yup o2 give you devices with no ability to unlock bootloader
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Premium HD app
O2 Slovakia gave out Z3C with unlockable BL + Generic CE1 firmware (no carrier BS).
Thanks to everyone for the replies. I couldnt live with a phone that's impossible to customize, especially with branding on it. So my next option is a D5833 version of the phone for £289. I believe this is the Asian version? But looking at the wireless bands it supports it would seem it will be fine on EE in the UK?
Ok, I checked out the manual for the Z3 Compact D5833 against the wireless bands used in the UK and it supports all those used by EE (2G, 3G and 4G) and only doesn't support 4G on Three and O2. I usually go with any of the EE network providers as its best in my area so I've gone with this phone for £289, delivered tomorrow, can't wait
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Ok, I checked out the manual for the Z3 Compact D5833 against the wireless bands used in the UK and it supports all those used by EE (2G, 3G and 4G) and only doesn't support 4G on Three and O2. I usually go with any of the EE network providers as its best in my area so I've gone with this phone for £289, delivered tomorrow, can't wait
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Would you say where you purchased from?
thanks in advance
DonnieDio said:
Ok, I checked out the manual for the Z3 Compact D5833 against the wireless bands used in the UK and it supports all those used by EE (2G, 3G and 4G) and only doesn't support 4G on Three and O2. I usually go with any of the EE network providers as its best in my area so I've gone with this phone for £289, delivered tomorrow, can't wait
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Are you sure? I bought an unbranded one from giffgaff. Using one of their sims which use the O2 network and the phone displays a 4g signal
I bought the D5803 when it was £239.99 (+free Chromecast) on O2 PAYG. The firmware is O2 specific and branded, but easily changed to the 3 firmware by flashing. No logos on the handset itself.
The biggest pain was getting it unlocked via code, the codes are much more expensive for this phone on eBay. One seller couldn't get me a code after a week of waiting, then another got me one in 24 hours (for £10).
Really happy with it so far and an absolute bargain for a brand-new phone from an official retailer.
I have from o2 germany. Just some bloatware. No hw brandind,bl unlockable. Just debranded it with ce1 fw