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My Honest review of the Samsung Galaxy S

Well, I don’t know where to start, ok here I go, WHAT A PILE OF CRAP, I went from the brilliant HTC Desire to this crap, I was quite excited about the Samsung galaxy s, but I was shocked at the level of LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG, even to just make a standard call, I am waiting for a while for the Samsung to process the instruction, at times I have felt like throwing the fone out of the window, it is really bad, hopefully the update to froyo 2.2 will eliminate the LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG problem, or what I would advise is if possible install the Nexus1 version of Android 2.1, and forget about Samsung own crap software. HTC Desire here I Come.
This is a honest review from a very frustrated Samsung galaxy s owner, if I have upset anyone with my review, please accept my apologies, as that is not my intention
Thank you

drasifriaz said:
Well, I don’t know where to start, ok here I go, WHAT A PILE OF CRAP, I went from the brilliant HTC Desire to this crap, I was quite excited about the Samsung galaxy s, but I was shocked at the level of LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG, even to just make a standard call, I am waiting for a while for the Samsung to process the instruction, at times I have felt like throwing the fone out of the window, it is really bad, hopefully the update to froyo 2.2 will eliminate the LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG problem, or what I would advise is if possible install the Nexus1 version of Android 2.1, and forget about Samsung own crap software. HTC Desire here I Come.
This is a honest review from a very frustrated Samsung galaxy s owner, if I have upset anyone with my review, please accept my apologies, as that is not my intention
Thank you
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:-| .. did you get the phone and go straight into posting this, or have you been following the forum?

I'll let you take a guess.
And i think we're getting trolled here, although some apps lag a bit when you open them, i NEVER had this problem with the dialer.
It always zooms right up.

Very troll like, theres 0 lag on my device, everything opens pretty much instantly.
Have you installed a task killer? I recommend doing so and getting into the habbit of running it every now and again if it slows.

to be honest, i've had the phone for about 2 weeks and i went from a old galaxy (i7500) which is the true king of lag. I notice slight lag on the galaxy S which increase over time, after being on for 3-4 days interface starts crawling almost to the same lever of i7500.
I dont know if the cause to the lag is an general android issue or if its samsungs incompetence...

2 things, go into settings and get rid of the animations and download launcher pro, this IS the best phone ive ever owned. incredibly light, comfortable to hold. just wish the camera was better/had flash and the screen had a higher resolution like the iphone. other than that i cant see how they would make a phone any better

KhaaL said:
old galaxy (i7500) which is the true king of lag.
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Hehehe, cracked me up
KhaaL said:
I dont know if the cause to the lag is an general android issue or if its samsungs incompetence...
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I think it's Samsung's incompetence, had similar issues on my Omnia II.
I wonder if Nexus one / HTC users had the same lag issues and whatnot

thatg said:
2 things, go into settings and get rid of the animations and download launcher pro, this IS the best phone ive ever owned. incredibly light, comfortable to hold. just wish the camera was better/had flash and the screen had a higher resolution like the iphone. other than that i cant see how they would make a phone any better
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Isn't it admitting defeat to the iPhone when you've got to turn off animations just to get the device to function properly?
I hate my iPhone and want to get the Captivate but stuff like this worries me.

TexUs said:
Isn't it admitting defeat to the iPhone when you've got to turn off animations just to get the device to function properly?
I hate my iPhone and want to get the Captivate but stuff like this worries me.
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not gonna lie, theyre both awesome phones, i just wanted the bigger screen, but honestly the camera on the iphone blows every other phones' out of the water. they just have the best sensor, which i dont get cause i thought they bought most their parts from samsung(why samsung started making their own phones) Samsung the new leader in android phones. HTC just doesnt have the production power

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...but honestly the camera on the iphone blows every other phones' out of the water. they just have the best sensor, which i dont get cause i thought they bought most their parts from samsung...
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Do you have some evidence of this? The results I've gotten from the Samsung camera have been better than I expected.

TravUK said:
Do you have some evidence of this? The results I've gotten from the Samsung camera have been better than I expected.
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I know without a doubt the 5MP camera on the iPhone 4 looks better than the 8MP camera on the Evo.

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I know without a doubt the 5MP camera on the iPhone 4 looks better than the 8MP camera on the Evo.
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ok, but the 8MP camera on the Evo is not the 5MP camera on the SGS

the orinal poster may be an idiot but I understnad where he comes from........ I am frustrated with the Samsung speed and see enough posts about the lag problem to know that it isn't just me.
I am also a blackberry user (9700) and that is much faster going from screen to screen and for Email, RSS, Twitter and Facebook.
OK the experiance is a little dull and not fro graphical but is usable.
Using somthing like Newsrob for RSS is unbearable (even with downloaded articals, the HTML rendering is to slow) or when using the standard mail client and moving from one mail to another.
The exchange sync is also flaky with the calendar sync breaking, resulting in the config having to be removed and re-added. Push mail doesn't seem to be push mail and tacks an age to come through when compared to the Blackberry.
It might be one of the best Android phones out there but it still needs a lot of work to be my main phone and not just a toy that I fiddle with on the train to work.

Will.1 said:
Hehehe, cracked me up
I think it's Samsung's incompetence, had similar issues on my Omnia II.
I wonder if Nexus one / HTC users had the same lag issues and whatnot
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I don't have much hope for samsung in Galaxy S either tbh, the hardware is good but i rely on the community on the software side of the phone.
And really, i dropped count of how many times i've was going to throw my i7500 into the wall, but stopped myself since i didnt want to pay for damages on the wall :-/

"LAAAAAAG" was never a big issue with this phone... compared to hd2 blackstone iphone and alot other smartphones i used to have over the years... after all u will have some if u decide to pick a smartphone .....
if u have lots of of it something is wrong ..
u can try using "advance task killer" and "minfreemanager" from market (free software)
this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723002 also gives a good solution if u like to mess up with the phone a bit more
my galaxy right now outperforms like any other smartphone out there

The op's post kind of rings true about how I started to feel but that was until I flashed to jg 1 (which itself was an improvement) but then put the modaco rom on it and autokiller from the market and now it performs superb and am happy with it. By all accounts, korea are sure to get froyo in august too so I can't help but think the rest of the world won't be too far behind, and even then if froyo is on a korean phone then I dare say there will be a rom floating around that's based on froyo in the not too distant future; while I look forward to see froyo on this phone, the way it performs now for me is excellent.

I will say although I have practicly zero lag now,I did have to flash to jg1 and custom modoco rom to get there.Initially out of the box there was quite some lag(although not as much as the op is suggesting). I also use taskkiller which is the same as minfreemanager but applies at boot.With this combination the phone is lightning fast but i can understand people not wanting to flash,root etc.Out the box there are probably better phones but put the work in and galaxy s is second to none.

I've done what I can with out rooting the phone, use Launch Pro, Startup Audit and Advanced Task Killer with some effect but not good enough and is poor when compared to the Blackberry or even my HTC Snap or E71.
I know the UX is not as interesting at the Galaxy but above all else it has to be usable and fast.
I've even had poor responce when answering calls and even though I have been pressing the answer button, the phone has not responded and call ended up going to vm.
I suppose that at somepoint when I have time, I will root the phone and install a modded rom but using modded roms should be about additional functionality, not about getting the phone to be acceptable.
I've just been trying to type a URL on the Galaxy while writting this and there is significant lag while typing, I can be several charatures in from of what is being displayed.

Just flashing firmware to jg1 makes it a hell of a lot better.Although jg3 will be better as the bugs were ironed out i belive

This makes me no longer excited about the galaxy? Why does it "LAAAAG" so much? It should have a very fast processor and only a 4" screen compared to the EVO's 4.3" screen. Although I do have issues with speed on my EVO... I think it's to be expected. It has a slower processor and a larger screen (more pixels to push around). Also, HTC Sense slows everything down.
I've never held a Samsung phone in my life... and I will definitely need to play with it before I actually buy it.

Calling all XDA Galaxy S owners! I need your opinion!

I am a Xperia X1 user and am looking for a good android phone, which I have narrowed down to a Desire or a SGS.
I really like the added benefits of the SGS (Better Screen, 8GB internal memory, HD Video), but cannot deny the fact that the UI on the Desire (Sense) is much better than the Samsung setup….
What are your opinions on the standard system?
The reason why I am asking here is that you all will generally have experience with Sense, which all of the custom ROMs for my xperia has been brilliant over the past 18months (kept it alive).
I notice that the SGS XDA portal, has a lot less posts than the HTC Desire forum, but I am hoping that this is due to the fact that the Desire has been out longer than the Samsung.
I am due to upgrade my phone in 10 days so need to figure out which way to go.
All opinions are welcome!

When I purchase this phone my thought was:
1. UI and software can be update and modified, hardwares are fixed.
2. Communities and 3rd party supports for this phone, which are great right now.
These are enough for me.
djglenn1337 said:
I am a Xperia X1 user and am looking for a good android phone, which I have narrowed down to a Desire or a SGS.
I really like the added benefits of the SGS (Better Screen, 8GB internal memory, HD Video), but cannot deny the fact that the UI on the Desire (Sense) is much better than the Samsung setup….
What are your opinions on the standard system?
The reason why I am asking here is that you all will generally have experience with Sense, which all of the custom ROMs for my xperia has been brilliant over the past 18months (kept it alive).
I notice that the SGS XDA portal, has a lot less posts than the HTC Desire forum, but I am hoping that this is due to the fact that the Desire has been out longer than the Samsung.
I am due to upgrade my phone in 10 days so need to figure out which way to go.
All opinions are welcome!
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I've had an iPhone 3G and a 3GS. Sold the 3GS a month ago to buy the iPhone 4. Due to every shop being out of stock on these babys, I decided to give Android a chance.
I nearly bought the Xperia X10 but in some shop they had a Galaxy S Demo Unit. I grabbed it and fell in love with it. It's so light-weight compared to other smartphones!
When I went home with it, I read some footage about it on engadget, gizmodo, etc. I didn't know it was the strongest Android phone at this time. I was very surprised and even more in love!
The screen is a blast.

I was in the same situation, though I was coming from a WinMo handset. I'm so happy with my choice, I know a few nexus one and desire owners who are now wanting a SCS - which says a lot.

My last phone was an HD2 with WinMo 6.5.5 wich have a wunderful community (Android development very fast).
But the Samsung i9000 is a nice Phone, with a wunderful screen, and 720p videoplayback and recording. And of corse, Android.
(Faster than HD2 [thanks Android], more Apps, 720p rec/play, etc...)

Thanks very much for the feedback guys... its good to get opionions of Win Mo users switching, as most reviews I have read on the internet is based on prev Iphone users (who's opinions I do not value).
Are you guys mostly using the stock SGS software, or running custom roms?
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My last phone was an HD2 with WinMo 6.5.5 wich have a wunderful community (Android development very fast).
But the Samsung i9000 is a nice Phone, with a wunderful screen, and 720p videoplayback and recording. And of corse, Android.
(Faster than HD2 [thanks Android], more Apps, 720p rec/play, etc...)
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Do you prefer this phone to your HD2? The HD2 was a great phone (as was the TyTn II)!

I am using factory's rom with a little bit of addition: rooting + auto killer to manage memories.
From an Omnia i900 winmo. 6.5.5 user, I have no lags problem on this phone.

Well, how about the opinion of a user switching between iPhone 3GS, Symbian s60v3 and v5, WinMo6, 6.1, and 6.5 and Android 1.5, 1.6, and 2.1 phones, in order to find my perfect suite?!? Actually my last/previous phone was Vivaz PRO
It is really the best phone that i laid my hands on up to now.
Hardware-wise, unbelievable super AMOLED multi-touch screen, fantastic HD video camera, super-fast CPU, a lot of RAM, 8GB internal memory and VERY VERY light! (OK, I miss the LED flash, but I can live with that).
Software-wise, I believe, after a lot of experience with multiple OSs, that Android is the future (at least for the next couple of years). Very smooth OS, open to do everything you wish (root, custom firmware, install pirate soft, etc) easily, and VERY FAST GROWING/UPDATING (compared with WinMo and symbian, that feel a bit ancient by now).
Go for it bro! You wont regret!

Just sold mine galaxy s on ebay.. and for a very good price  I am so happy now
If you are like me and use gps navigation a lot, simply run away from this phone.
I am now back to my HD2 (so happy I did not sell it). No navigation software can compare with tom tom.
All in all galaxy s has:
Superb screen:
HD video recording
And that is about it….
The gps is rubbish, don’t listen to the people telling you that they fixed it…
All “fixes” are just to provide fast network location fix (which in most cases is inaccurate)
With my HD2 it does not matter how cloudy it is, and how tall are the buildings around me,
I have GPS fix in 3-5sec and I MEAN GPS FIX, not network location fix.
SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I AM.
2 days ago I was in central London and tried to find the closest tesco with google maps…
After 5min I just gave up… galaxy s simply could not do it
With HD2 things like that takes 10 to 20 sec (including typing tesco in the search bar)
I am also very disappointed with the android OS,
This thing does not even support external gps… we had that in winmo 10 years ago…
It has all sorts of problems, for example application starting on the background (consuming data) and there is simply no way for the user to control that.
One more thing the internal memory card is very very very slow and this slows down the devise a lot. Sure people will tell you about the sd card fix but REALLYYYY… should I start fixing the Samsung rubbish? No thanks, will stay away from Samsung and android for another 2 years (at least)

same here i always purchase my smartphones by the hardware spec, and the amount of Forums/groups available for it.
unfortunately the HTC Athena was flawed, the device itself is amazingly great, howerver support for it was low.
SGS i9000 on the other hand has a very lively group just like HTC Desire
kcharng said:
When I purchase this phone my thought was:
1. UI and software can be update and modified, hardwares are fixed.
2. Communities and 3rd party supports for this phone, which are great right now.
These are enough for me.
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mitko76 Good luck doing anything with GPS in central London...Buildings have this horrible side effect on ALL GPS systems.
Google maps is easily the best Search for phone, but not the greatest GPS, since is need a Connection to work if you deviate from the rout too much.
I've had this phone for w eek now and it is a great phone, there are a few niggles in the software, but believe me way less than stock windows mobile 6.5.
The screen isn;t as crisp as people would have you believe, White text on a dark background gives you a red effect around text and text Isn;t smooth, no where near the Iphone 4 IMO, however the contrast and colours are superb.
Give it a go if your on contract you have 7 days to return it.
Logicalstep

As a x1 user who has just upgraded to a Galaxy S a week past i can say that it is definetly worth it.
I did own a Desire for a day when i got it on contract but i didn't get coverage for the network in my area.
I find the Galaxy S to be a nicer looking phone, screen looks a lot brighter and better. Sound quality from the speaker is better and the UI also seems much faster.

It's a great phone, no questions asked, but you have to realize that it needs some work (like the fixes and all) and customization.
I'm using the imfamous JF3 stock rom and i do notice some lags and battery drain (but I use it very heavily, frequent syncs and updates, tons of widgets and all that) so i'm gonna switch over to the better ones.
I come from the Omnia II wich was a great phone but very poorly supported by samsung and the community. This isn't the case at all for the SGS. I used to have sense on my device, big fan of sense, but i like the SGS homescreen as well with the different pannels, really like it. Touchwizz is sort of a love/hate relationship
I'm loving android so far, even though i don't understand everything, i'm sure i could enhance my phone a lot.
hope this helps

Logicalstep said:
mitko76 Good luck doing anything with GPS in central London...Buildings have this horrible side effect on ALL GPS systems.
Google maps is easily the best Search for phone, but not the greatest GPS, since is need a Connection to work if you deviate from the rout too much.
I've had this phone for w eek now and it is a great phone, there are a few niggles in the software, but believe me way less than stock windows mobile 6.5.
The screen isn;t as crisp as people would have you believe, White text on a dark background gives you a red effect around text and text Isn;t smooth, no where near the Iphone 4 IMO, however the contrast and colours are superb.
Give it a go if your on contract you have 7 days to return it.
Logicalstep
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Logicalstep, that is what I am trying to explain .. I DO NOT NEED “Good Luck” when using my hd2’s gps in central London, it simply work. I work in central London so trust me, I know what I am talking about.
If you are coming from a phone with poor gps I can understand your point, but hd2 simply has a proper gps unit in it and it is working no matter where I am. With HD2 I can even get gps lock in the train (10 sec), tried this with galaxy s and guess what... it FAILED (after 10min).
You can keep convincing yourself that the buildings are high, the sky is cloudy or God knows what ..
But the simple truth is the gps is rubbish.
Keep waiting for the NEXT firmware to fix the issues, and when it failed keep waiting for the next one and so on....

Mitko please do us a favour and leave the forum, we know that you sold your Galaxy S, and frankly its quite boring to see you posting on every thread and preaching slander. The GPS does take a short while to position (about 30-40 secs) but after that it works perfectly for me. I have used it on several occasions when lost in central London.

Since last December I've owned the following handsets: N900, HD2, Desire, X10, Galaxy S.
Of all of these the Galaxy S is my favorite, followed very closely by the HD2.

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Since last December I've owned the following handsets: N900, HD2, Desire, X10, Galaxy S.
Of all of these the Galaxy S is my favorite, followed very closely by the HD2.
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Coming from you that is high praise indeed.
Loving my SGS, no way am I going back to Symbian.

On my side I am coming from winmo6.5 and then iphone3GS
if i had an advice to give you in order to choose between the desire and the samsung it would be to know that :
* you won't have HTC sense on samsung ... I mean really nothing comparable.
* there is almost no button on the samsung .No trackball ( painfull for selection) no LED ... and it's quite annoying some time
Yes when I compare both with my colleague , mine has a better screen ( bigger , brighter) but it will worth it if you watch a lot of video or look at a lot of picture. If it's just to have more beautifull icon ... you will forget it looks better after few weeks
I am still a little bit uncertain about the GPS ... I need to do more tests and to check the settings I could enhance but it can't be compared to my TomTom ( on both winmo and iphone)
Hopefully there will be soon a real fix for the slowness of the SD card ... hopefully ...

Thanks guys, this is brilliant information!
I used the phone briefly in a phone shop yesterday, and I have to say that it looks very impressive! Especially compared to my x1 running Windows 6.5.3. The only first negative impression that I had was how cheap and flimsy the back cover was...but I hey, I know no phone will be perfect.
When my contract is up next week, and I am going to go for the SGS and as Logicalstep has commented I have 7 days to return it if unhappy.
I really appreciate the feedback, as it has made me allot more comfortable with going for the SGS.

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Thanks guys, this is brilliant information!
I used the phone briefly in a phone shop yesterday, and I have to say that it looks very impressive! Especially compared to my x1 running Windows 6.5.3. The only first negative impression that I had was how cheap and flimsy the back cover was...but I hey, I know no phone will be perfect.
When my contract is up next week, and I am going to go for the SGS and as Logicalstep has commented I have 7 days to return it if unhappy.
I really appreciate the feedback, as it has made me allot more comfortable with going for the SGS.
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I'm sure you will enjoy it
And honestly i agree about the cheap looking back but honestly that's why it is so light and you forget about this quickly.
Especially if you add a case ( you have some very thin one)

All i need is a little convincing...

Hey guys. Im new to the forum, I've been over at M3 with my Motorola Cliq. I have a full upgrade available to me, and right now im considering the Vibrant since my fiance just got the captivate and its pretty sexy.
The only problem is, I dont know anyone with a vibrant, so instead of googling for bonehead reviews, i figured id post here and get opinions from people who are actually involved with their phones (and i will most likely root it). So my main question is, why should I get this phone instead of waiting for the G2 or the MyTouch HD? What are its main downfalls? Also, how is root on this phone? Hows the tethering, overclocking/underclocking? It looks like theres plenty of ROM support. Also, after briefly skimming through these forums, I'm seeing a lot of stuff on a "lag fix". What lag are you referring to?
So I welcome your personal opinions, good or bad, i appreciate it. Thanks.
PS - Cosmetically I must admit I'm not impressed. The IPhone-like body repelled me at first, and it really does feel like it may be TOO light. But if the good outweighs the bad, im sure i can get used to these things.

best screen on the market
hummingbird processor is superior to snapdragons
it's thin and light, barely noticeable in your pocket
super easy to root, super easy to tether without apps (instructions for OSX)
major downfalls include waiting on samsung's lackluster support and some users are experiencing GPS issues
i personally thought my vibrant was still more responsive on 2.1 than an EVO i was playing around with on 2.2. i can't wait until this phone gets froyo, it should fly!

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best screen on the market
hummingbird processor is superior to snapdragons
it's thin and light, barely noticeable in your pocket
super easy to root, super easy to tether without apps (instructions for OSX)
major downfalls include waiting on samsung's lackluster support and some users are experiencing GPS issues
i personally thought my vibrant was still more responsive on 2.1 than an EVO i was playing around with on 2.2. i can't wait until this phone gets froyo, it should fly!
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Thanks for your input. Well, I'm pretty used to horrible customer loyalty, having had to deal with Motorola for the past 10 months.
Thin and light: I must say, it feels like a toddler could snap it in half. That is one of my main concerns.

Hardware is cool firmware blows. If gps worked i would buy again

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Hardware is cool firmware blows. If gps worked i would buy again
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Firmware may blow, but arent there ROMs out there that improve it?

Vibrant all the way!!!!! one of the best phone's out there!!!!!!!!

"Vibrant" screen, memory, speed, processor, thin phone, NO SLIDing KEYWORK, trackpad and touchscreen don't make senses to me... So vibrant all the way. For rooting i used "one click rooting" and lag fix i used Ryan's Lag fix, and to fix the GPS i used "vibrant-JI2-GPS.zip" (room manager needed)

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Firmware may blow, but aren't there ROMs out there that improve it?
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Yes. I'm using Bionix's mods & he's got the GPS & all that other stuff fixed in his ROM. As long as you use a custom ROM it's all good.

I was disappointed with the stock firmware, and had started regretting my purchase. Then I rooted the phone and applied the bionix ROM, and now I'm loving my phone.
The thing is, Samsung takes a long while to support upgrades to Android, so if that's a problem, you may want to go HTC G2. Personally, I don't like the slideout keyboard, because they invariably feel more flimsy and prone to break than the candybar style of phone.
The GPS has been a problem for many people, myself included. Samsung has acknowledged the problem and is reportedly working on a fix. I can tell you that the bionix rom, like several others, incorporates a fix that has made it workable for me.
Another issue for many of us is the lack of a front-facing camera. Another poster has found the hardware for it online for $17 US, and I hear that one of the developers may be working on the software.
Overall the phone, once a custom rom is in place, is snappy and a good performer. After flashing the rom, my only real complaint has been the poor T-Mobile coverage, especially in my home. There is a recent rumor that T-Mobile is going to enable UMA (cell phone calls over wifi) for recent Android phones. That would pretty much finish off any of my complaints...
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I have not owned any other smart phones before I purchased this Vibrant. That being said, I absolutely love this phone. The only issues I have had with it is the GPS problem (takes forever to lock on and loses signal randomly than can't find a lock again for quite some time) and the "Lag". For clarification, the "Lag" is a very minor issue that affects only some phones, and is only noticed by the picky users IMO. Basically, you click on something and the phone "lags" out every now and than for maybe 1 second.
Now it needs to be stated that not all Vibrants are experiencing these issues. My wife has a Vibrant as well and has not noticed any major issues with her GPS, while I have on mine.
However, if you have no qualms with modding your device, the two major issues this phone has can easily be fixed. Rooting couldn't be simpler with the One Click Root (You install it on your computer, attach your phone, and click a button, than follow 3 easy steps on your phone). There are One Click Lag fixes that are just as easy (Which can be downloaded from the market). I have used it and it without issue. The GPS can be fixed by either flashing one of the multiple fixes out there, or simply installing a custom ROM from Bionix, or Eugene. (I am currently using Eugenes Frankin-Twiz and my GPS locks on in about 20 seconds, and hasn't lost signal once.)
That being said, I have heard that a JI5 update for our device is being rolled out pretty much as I speak via KIES. Don't know what that update fixes, but from what little I have read, people that had GPS issues are no longer having them after updating. I just backed up my current ROM and will likely be flashing the update shortly to test it out.
Hope this helps in your decision.

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Another issue for many of us is the lack of a front-facing camera. Another poster has found the hardware for it online for $17 US, and I hear that one of the developers may be working on the software.
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WHAT??? i though it was impossible... do u have a link of this thread, i been looking for this bad not luck. Thanks

Dragoth12 said:
For clarification, the "Lag" is a very minor issue that affects only some phones, and is only noticed by the picky users IMO. Basically, you click on something and the phone "lags" out every now and than for maybe 1 second.
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You wouldn't say that if you used an app that hits the database hard.
Newsrob for example, an excellent google reader app. It's SLOW on a stock vibrant. Apply any of the lag fixes, and it FLIES.
For many apps, I would actually agree that it's nit-picky. However, Samsung F-ed up by trying to force their stupid proprietary filesystem on all of us when standard ones perform significantly better. There's no good reason to cripple this excellent hardware with crap software when free, open source software that is already in the Linux kernel Android is based on is so much better.

Thanks guys. Im surprised these threads dont have a "thank" button

i do regret jumping the gun on getting the vibrant, because i'm a huge fan of physical keyboards, and the g2 looks to have a pretty decent one. with that said, that is the only advantage the g2 has.
vibrant's pros-
display. i really don't think we'll see another phone that can match this phone's screen for a good while.
tv out. loading movies up on my phone and plugging them into the tv is fantastic!
gpu. everytime i check out some market games, the general comment concensus shows that the galaxy s phones never really have an issue running any games. the ps1 emulator running flawless is pretty much all the proof you need.
dev support. coming from the g1 with cyanogenmod, i was kinda worried that we wouldn't have any decent devs working on this thing, but my worries were unfounded. the user sombionix has made a ROM on his own (as far as i know) that has made this phone into the powerhouse it should be. the battery life is worlds better, it runs like i expected it to run when i first got it, and the list goes on. there's also a handful of other users whipping up some pretty decent themes and mods for us.
that's all i can think of at the moment. my personal cons with the phone are no led notification, no keyboard, and certain elements of touchwiz. i really wanna like tw, but there are some features that should be able to be changed or completely disabled.
so it's really up to you. just know (as i learned) that once you buy a phone you really want, there's gonna be 5 more just around the corner that you'll really want too. so just do some research, weigh the pros and cons, and go from there. luckily for us consumers, we've reached the point where there's nothing but good **** coming out, so let's reap the benefits.

I've noticed alot of Devs are moving towards the Vibrant, that says it all. Yes there are minor issues but fixes are already present and official fixes are on the way. Plus when we get Froyo, this baby will be on steroids. Get it! I hear that Walmart is selling it for $99. That should seal the deal for you.

ttabbal said:
I would actually agree that it's nit-picky.
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Im actually one of those picky users that you guys are referring to ....processor speed is number one on my list of things that i want out of a smartphonee, thats why i was concerned about this issue, but i hear nothing but positive results from these "lag fixes" so i dont think its enough to affect my decision. heres my list, in order, of important things in a phone for me:
1. Processor - 1gh hummingbird, which can be overclocked/underclocked....+1
2. Storage/Memory - this phone has pllllenty....+2
3. RAM - from what i gather, this phone is up to par, no more no less than the average Android smartphone....0
4. Modding abilities - The developer support for this phone seems very good, with a decent amount of ROMs to choose from that offer your basic root features, and software improvements +1
5. Display - no need to explain....+2
6. Keyboard - Lacks physical keyboard....-1
7. Design - IPhone look is too unoriginal and basic (not looking foward to people asking "derr, is that an iphone??"), phone seems way too prone to damage with being as light as a feather....-2
8. Firmware - I can't grade it, cause it's not something you can judge on paper, but its last on the list because ROMs usually address any issues....0
Well, based on my horrible, makeshift, totally irrelevant grading system...as a non-user, this phone gets a +3.
The only reason im dissecting and trying to pick all of your brains is because, 2yrs is a long time to commit to a phone, and like christpuncher said it will most likely be behind the pack within 6months, and i really want to make sure this phone will put up the longest fight possible.
Android 3.0 should be released around the New Year, whats the likelihood the Vibrant will see that?

huasamaya said:
WHAT??? i though it was impossible... do u have a link of this thread, i been looking for this bad not luck. Thanks
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Here ya go ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854

More important then specs and what everyone else thinks in a biased Vibrant forum is what do you want and need. I've owned the MyTouch (1rst Gen) HTC G1 and iPhone (jailbroken), HTC Touch Pro II and Vibrant on T-Mobile. And have used the MyTouch Slide for a few days. I don't think you can compare these phones apples to apples.
At least in my expeirence and view, the MyTouch phones are more along the lines of messaging/social phone. It's outta your way when your not using it (small) and feels more like an on the go phone. In contrast my Vibrant feels more like a premier and capable phone. It's more of a multimedia targeted phone and boasts a stronger cpu and better display. The G2 will have a hardware keyboard and if you've used the Touch Pro II's keyboard (best in market IMO) then you'll have an idea how great HTC's hardware keyboards can be. I miss that keyboard but have grown to live without it on my Vibrant. The G2 from what I've read wont carry the huge specs (800mhz cpu?) of the Vibrant but then again it's not targeted at the same market. I see the G1 and G2 as the do everything good phone.
My best advice is to wait till the G2 comes out and head down to a Tmobile store and play with them. I was set on buying the MyTouch Slide when I headed down to the store and check out the Vibrant b/c of the rave reviews. After holding it in my hands and playing with it, I was amazed but still was going to get the MyTouch Slide. Then I compared price, specs, and features and the Vibrant in my case was a steal after I headed to Walmart where I got it for $150. The MyTouch Slide was selling for $179 at Tmobile.
Anyhow, I would personally purchase the Vibrant again over the MyTouch and I would only want the G2 because it adheres to Android rules more so then Samsung does (filesystem and stock apps).

watcher64 said:
Here ya go ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854
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PLOP!!! i can't believe it!!! i hope they can make it work!!

TopShelf10 said:
Android 3.0 should be released around the New Year, whats the likelihood the Vibrant will see that?
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If I had to take a shot in the dark I'd say the Vibrant will NOT be seeing 3.0, but that is 100% speculation on my part. I'd imagine the G2 will get 3.0 and probably some updates further than that. That said, the dev support for the Vibrant is outstanding. At the moment I'm rockin' Eugene373's Frankin Twiz and Voodoo lagfix. I'd be willing to bet even if we don't get an "official" 3.0 update that we'll still see it on our Vibrants in due time.

[Q] HI! :) thinking about getting X10

Hi! I'm thinking about the X10, just wondering if anyone can offer some advice. Some background: I had HTC aria, specs aren't as high-end as other droid phones, but it worked extremely well -- email, GPS, music player, and interface was great. No issues whatsoever, except the camera wasn't so great. I cracked the screen and decided to go for the Samsung Captivate. The specs on the Captivate are great, camera is great, but basically nothing works with it: GPS takes 30 seconds to 1 minute to lock, it loses lock, email crashes, interface is nothing compared to HTC, wi-fi connects but sometimes doesn't work.... Great hardware, but everything is buggy. So I will return it and pick out another phone. Are you satisfied with the X10? what could be improved? What is great about it? I'd really appreciate it, thanks a lot.

Get a galaxy s.
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X10 is a great phone, but SE needs to step up there game! If anything, I'd suggest you go for a phone with company that has much more experience with the Android software...
ATM there are many bugs with the current android build (1.6) and it is outdated, but within the week, there should be a 2.1 update, which should definitly boost the performance of the phone.
The main thing I know many people look for is multitouch. Recently there has been some discussion on if the phone has MT or not, and a few videos showing it, but so far no one (no one publicly) has shown how to unlock the MT feature on the phone.
x10 has a beautiful big screen, but it doesnt support 16m colours
But, I don't think its a big deal.
Overall, the phone is good, but it has the potential to be so much more better; only if SE allows it, I mean...
If I could recommend a phone, I'd say the HTC Desire HD. (thing that sucks about HTC is that they always have so many phones coming out, so there's a chance it might get outdated quick).

kr3w1337 said:
Get a galaxy s.
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He already got it ?
I cracked the screen and decided to go for the Samsung Captivate.
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Anyway X10 is pretty good but I'd buy a Desire HD instead.

Think twice before you buy X10. The phone itself isn't bad, but the product is not all - support given by its manufacturer matters too - and as you can see (just hop around X10 XDA's board), SE doesn't do the job very well. I'd go for HTC.

The X10 is probably the most beautiful phone out there right now and the 2.1 update which is about to be released should give it a new lease of life... if you want to be able to root your phone for custom ROM's don't get the X10.. the 1.6 bootloader hasn't been cracked yet, and SE will no doubt have made it even harder in the 2.1 iteration..
Multitouch may be possible.. video's on you tube recently suggest it is.. but TBC!!.. 16m colours doesn't really make a great deal of difference to most.. but could be delivered in the next update (not the one that's about to be released.. the one after).
All in all it's a great bit of kit but has been held back by 1.6.

Great phone, beautify software and outdated android OS. Two months after the 2.1 update, 2.1 will be outdated and people will start complaining again.
If you care about getting the last android OS or Multitouch, don't consider this phone(and i suggest going with HTC for this matter).
Anyway i kinda like my X10. I think it's a great phone, and i also think SE have leaned the lesson and they will do their job on the next update.

The X10 is certainly not perfect. It is currently on Android 1.6 but the update to 2.1 will begin anyday now.
Now, let's compare a couple of things that, for me anyway, make the X10 standout. First, the style and build quality are outstanding. The physical buttons are also a nice plus. Second, and more importantly, the X10 is the only Android device that comes with a full end-to-end syncing solution that works with playlists and is simple to use. You only have to install MediaGo on your PC, nothing needs to be installed on the phone. This is something very lacking on other Android devices. Yes, there are third party solutions, but none of them work as well as MediaGo does (IMO).
Keeping that in mind, and that 2.1 apps will be possible within the next month, the X10 actually does have a lot to offer. Also, if GPS is important to you, the X10 has the best GPS I have ever personally tested. I work in the third floor of an office building. This floor is designed to be a storm shelter (in Florida, flooding and wind are what you protect against). It is 100% encased in cement. I can get a GPS lock inside the building. Yes, GPS lock, 3G radio and WiFi off, and I get a GPS lock. That is amazing to everyone I have shown it to.

Yes, the X10 gets a quick GPS lock everywhere.
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ive wrote on x10 pros and cons , also compared to iphone's pros and cons, there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8859013&postcount=171
(if you want cheapest 1ghz 4" HD screen on a phone - buy x10. if you have more money, check for other phones, like htc desire, Z, HD, samsung galaxy. )

How can you recommended Galaxy S when this guy already has it (Captivate is the AT&T variant of the phone) and is looking to make the switch to another phone?

The x10 is not for you. You found faults and lost patients with possibly the best phone on the market (the galaxy S) and I understand those issues would make anyone think twice but the truth is Samsung will iron out those issues with software updates within weeks or days. SE have no plans to upgrade the x10 to 2.2 which is all kinds of bad.
Buying any other phone will at least mean you are able to enjoy more up to date apps and features that are out now rather than simply watching everyone else enjoying the innovations developers or Google them selves launch.
I'm past putting SE down, its a really simple choice to make.
There are apps currently on the market that will only work on android 2.2 and while other users with HTC Hero's enjoy at least testing out what flash is like the x10 users like myself will have to wait until we change our phone at the end of our contract or save up and buy an HTC Desire HD.
Most truths were once deemed blasphemy
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h0ruza said:
The x10 is not for you. You found faults and lost patients with possibly the best phone on the market (the galaxy S) and I understand those issues would make anyone think twice but the truth is Samsung will iron out those issues with software updates within weeks or days. SE have no plans to upgrade the x10 to 2.2 which is all kinds of bad.
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I am sorry to tell you but I did exactly that. I had a Captivate for 28 days. The faulty GPS, and myriad of other stability issues, did not make up for the screen and GPU on the Galaxy S devices.
The GPS issue has been around for many months, with no resolution in sight. There are people with the official 2.2 and still no GPS fix. It's beginning to look like there is no fix. Also, the Galaxy S updates have been very slow too. I am fairly certain that is due, in large part, to the stupid proprietary file system Samsung chose. If you must have the latest OS, then I would suggest getting an HTC device. The Galaxy S devices are nowhere near what they should be, based solely on specs.

Well.. X10 is very good at social networking for twitter and facebook. plus browsing emails is nice and easy. Even though it had 1.6 OS but it is a very stable considering the outdated OS ( at least my X10 is ). And the INFINITY button is very usable you cannot find that in any other android, one click and all the information regarding a video, contact, picture or music is in you hands
but true, if you want the latest OS you should go with HTC Desire HD or wait for the 4G
if you want something unique in terms of UI then X10 is the one

I'm currently considering the opposite path from X10i to Galaxy S myself.
IMHO the suitability of whether you should get the X10 depends on the personality of the user. The X10 is more suited to those that are less technical and I think the Galaxy S is suitable to those who are more technically competent and know how to apply the fixes to the minor problems.
Here are the pros and cons I'm looking at for the X10 vs Galaxy S:
X10:
Pros:
Screen works in sunlight, Nice applications that come with the phone like Mediascape/BackupRestore, Physical hardware buttons (Physical buttons supposedly last longer, nice physical design, Nice camera(not great but nice)
Cons:
Awful support from Sony Ericsson, Android 1.6 (equals much less choice of applications although 2.1 is coming, we are still behind), Multitouch disabled by Sony Ericsson, no decent custom ROM from XDA (futureproofing is uncertain)
Galaxy S:
Pros:
Beautiful screen, Faster hardware, better multitouch, currently has XDA dev custom roms (means it can be more future proof)
Cons:
Screen somewhat works in Sunlight, Less awful support from Samsung, Terrible support if you're using a Galaxy S variant (You can't expect much from your carrier), phone is kind of ugly, some lag and GPS problems (You can get it fixed if you configure it properly and apply the fixes from XDA)

naplesbill said:
I am sorry to tell you but I did exactly that. I had a Captivate for 28 days. The faulty GPS, and myriad of other stability issues, did not make up for the screen and GPU on the Galaxy S devices.
The GPS issue has been around for many months, with no resolution in sight. There are people with the official 2.2 and still no GPS fix. It's beginning to look like there is no fix. Also, the Galaxy S updates have been very slow too. I am fairly certain that is due, in large part, to the stupid proprietary file system Samsung chose. If you must have the latest OS, then I would suggest getting an HTC device. The Galaxy S devices are nowhere near what they should be, based solely on specs.
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I did recall mentioning other phones than the Galaxy S but thank you for filling us in on the issues you had as I wouldn't want someone to blindly grab a Galaxy S not knowing that it possibly has an hardware issue. I had heard a few things about the GPS issue but the two geeks I work with who have Galaxy S's have bigger smiles than the two x10 owners in the office.
That said in the UK if you have hardware issues and there is a hardware revision because of this issues there are still options for you to get that revised hardware for free but I think SE have proved that if the phone OS locked down and the issues are software based your options are less.
Given the choice between GPS & multi touch I'll choose multi touch every time. I can simple look around to know where I am or get real old school and right down directions like I used to ten years ago or better still go and buy a GPS unit and connect via Bluetooth.
I might be able to buy a Wii remote to play games (which I'm going to do today) but that doesn't really replace Multi touch.
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I really don't think x10 is a good phone.
Let me say what i do like about it.
Great camera & best onboard keyboard i have used(i have big fingers).
Good sync software (PC access to files).
This is my spare phone, i got it when i resigned my contract as they don't sell HD2's here in NZ. It may be that i am really happy with windows mobile, but i just don't get android. I must say i am a business user (tool not toy).
The screen scratches (need glass not plastic)
charging port at the top? - not practical for vehicle use with holder.
ok thats my 2 cents worth

[Q] Are you guys generally happy with the device?

Hello everyone! I'm just wondering if you guys are still generally happy with the device?
I was thinking about getting this phone because it has a keyboard, and it's relatively cheep from Amazon.co.uk.
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Note, which I know to be a beast of a device, it has twice the ram, 3x more power, but really, I'm SO tired of typing on touch screens! it often makes me slower and I can't walk and type at the same time like how I used to when I was a blackberry user.
So my solution was buy a tablet, and then get a keyboarded phone.
Does this phone still work decently well in todays world? I don't do much except text, read forums and maybe browse the web a little (not too frequently). I often listen to music, but even those old 300mhz phones can do that!
So my question is: Are you guys still happy with this device?
Thanks

I have Kindle Fire and MS2 and I'm still happy with MS2.
With MS2Ginger rom, some voltage tweaks + overclocking and it run 3+ days on battery used only as communication device, without playing games. And still it's solid build, heavy device without any scratches after year of using.
But with 2.3 android and no activity in ICS development.

I honestly don't know why this device is in legacy because even though it's old, it's not that out of date spec wise. There are a lot of midrange devices that are the same...
Thanks for the advice. Is stock also a good contender?
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Sure I am!
The down side is: Since I don't like stock rom (2.3.6) I have to put up with incompatibility issues using roms, minimal but still lol.
Overall its a flawless cellfone!
using CM9 (20120602)
*Now using CM7 from Endless7

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So my question is: Are you guys still happy with this device?
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i just get mine off amazon this week and i have to say that i'm not impressed at all
it have nice keyboard, it is very well build - overall i think that hardware is very good
but i have to say that software is its downside, there is only handful of devs that still working on it, userbase is way to small for proper debugging and locked bootloader makes you think twice before any flash...
it could be great phone but i'm actually disappointed as it is exactly like my recently sold nokia n900 (well, a bit thinner ) nice hardware & not too bad soft but it lack hardware acceleration both flash and video, camera is ok but needs plenty of light, and my problems with gsm/3g/wifi make it highly unreliable as communication device - unfortunately i have to say that my 5+ years old symbian E71 is almost just as good in everyday use...

It's a dud, I'm experiencing keyboard failure after having it repaired under warranty for the same issue 6 months ago. The stock software is slow, the locked bootloader frustrated efforts to develop custom ROMs and the screen is too small.
And it was still the only decent keyboard phone I could get in Australia.

Hi
Just got mine recently from Amazon and even though it is pretty old already
I still prefer it over newer devices. I did have some pure touch screen devices
before and as well got just so annoyed not having a physical keyboard anymore.
Battery - is in my hands not great (2days max with average use) but then,
show me other smartphones which can do much longer - general trend I guess
Software - found the motorola blur pretty and sometimes very useful
(for example one message app fusing email, sms, twitter messages) but very slow as well
--> so I rooted + flashed with ms2ginger and used the deblur script from this forum, now everything is much smoother.
Being stuck with an older android version is not bothering me that much, I actually do have ICS on my transformer but dont experience so many advantages over the old version on the phone.
To sum up, good device especially for that price!

Yeah I gave it a try. I ordered it off of Amazon UK and it arrived on Monday. I tried it and sent it back on Tuesday. It was too slow. It lagged a lot on my contact list... to be fair though I do have thousands of contacts and most have pictures. But still...I couldn't get through the list. So I decided to stick with my galaxy note until a more powerful European keyboarded device comes out... it seems that blackberry will be the next one only because every company is going crazy on making devices thinner and thinner. To be honest I don't care if it's thin or not (14mm is a good size), I'd rather have a much larger battery in a modern phone than a slim device that lasts 3 hours screen on time!
Regardless, thanks for your help.
Salutations from Spain.
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Ah a pity but I guess I would have done the same if I
experienced problems.
Nevertheless regarding the idea to wait for a new device with proper keyboard
I am a little bit pessimistic. More and more manufactures are stoping to produce them and I think just lately HTC decided as well to not produce them anymore
It seems that most people dont bother unfortunately.
The only major one left is Blackberry which me personally I dislike. Saw yesterday on Engadget a blurry shot of a new Motorola with keyboard though - maybe still some hope around ....
BTW @Bluepix: what clock speed do you use ? I am thrilled by your 4d and still 33% left

Bit of thread necromancy here..
Possible QWERTY replacements for Milestone 2 floating around as rumours. Obviously no idea if they will work outside of the US yet. Not like Motorola is putting out anything there anyway.
Samsung Galaxy S Blaze Q, some sort of SII with a smaller screen and odd looking QWERTY layout.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/07/samsung-sgh-t699-coming-to-t-mobile-as-galaxy-s-blaze-q/
Pic here: http://www.tmonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Screen-Shot-2012-06-14-at-7.35.42-PM.jpg
This thing from LG
http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-mr-blurrycam-reveals-lg-ls860-and-some-specs
http://briefmobile.com/new-image-of-lg-ls860-and-specs-confirm-s4-cpu-and-nfc
And whatever the hell this is from Motorola. Someone suggested Photon Q: http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-working-ics-slider-sprint
Personally hoping for some sort of Sidekick 4G sequel with more grunt and a decently sized screen. That thing looked dreamy in all its pictures <3

I'm happier now with CM 10.1, except for the camera.
The stock versions I used were pretty slower, CM runs much better now.

I like the phone in general as the keyboard etc.
But the sw is rubbish: lags hangs crashes even with the CM10
Sadly all the new phones seem to bee buggy as well so i have no idea how to fix this.
Trying the heavily modded rom if i figure out how to install it.

I am a very happy, but new apps want more and more power and RAM, and sometime it lag.. i try new phones its fast, but its stupidly huge, i hate those stupid huge phones, I want something fast from Motorola, maybe i ll buy it if its been a half good as Milestone 2

Milestone 2 is younger brother of milestone 1 (my old phone) and maybe it is not so prety like 1 but have more ram and no need to oc. But have keyboard and ergonomic and its great peace of solid work. Maybe new samsungs are beter but they also biger And tell me which samsung can survive crash on ground at 120 km/h ? MILESTONE CAN

The phone to me is a big step in the phone I use to have which was the t-mobile comet.. but I'm very happy with the device. When it came into the mail, I was very excited and I love this phone to this day. I just need an extended battery though other than that. I love it.
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ullivilli said:
Trying the heavily modded rom if i figure out how to install it.
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you have to root your phone, bootstrap it and install bootmenue and recovery. from there you have to restore the nandroid (cause thats the format the rom is made in).
read the threads in the root and dev. section of this forum.... it's not very complicated.
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but to answer the topic question:
show me a device with hw keyboard and a better performance than the ms2 and i will buy it. -> there is no alternative this time at market. it's a shame.....

I am very happy too with the Milestone 2. God bless we can only softbrick this device, so some experiments with different roms are not neckbraking. The hardware keyboard is very good, very smooth writing possible. I would buy it again ,for this price you will get a quality phone"micropc".
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