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So, for my sake, and others considering to take the plunge, what are some real benefits of rooting? I have had my nexi for 6 days now and I need a real good reason to root, because as we all know, it voids the warranty. Agree?
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So, for my sake, and others considering to take the plunge, what are some real benefits of rooting? I have had my nexi for 6 days now and I need a real good reason to root, because as we all know, it voids the warranty. Agree?
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Custom ROMs, certain apps that require root/su access, and custom themes. Whether those are real good reasons or not is up to you.
just a quick question, ive read the tut on rooting the nexus, what i do not understand is can u only do the root and not the rest of it, as it says to install this image then recovery, as i do not want to put custom roms on, is this possible,
sorry new to android, been windows mobile for so long,
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Custom ROMs, certain apps that require root/su access, and custom themes. Whether those are real good reasons or not is up to you.
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Alright so another question for you my good man, how easy is it to achieve root? Because I literally had the hardest time on my magic. It got me so heated that I never tried again. And now in the tutorial for rooting it makes it sound amazingly easy.
takes minutes to do I did it in less than 5
r8zer said:
just a quick question, ive read the tut on rooting the nexus, what i do not understand is can u only do the root and not the rest of it, as it says to install this image then recovery, as i do not want to put custom roms on, is this possible,
sorry new to android, been windows mobile for so long,
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unlocking the bootloader does NOT give you root, it simply ALLOWS you to root. Root access is part of a custom ROM (a modified kernel I beleive). You can leave the stock ROM on and just install the superboot image on top of it to get root access (see modaco's thread in development section).
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takes minutes to do I did it in less than 5
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so you also had to flash a new rom to the device, correct? do you think you could PM me a super simple way to do it... just the exact way you did it? i would greatly appreciate it bro
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so you also had to flash a new rom to the device, correct? do you think you could PM me a super simple way to do it... just the exact way you did it? i would greatly appreciate it bro
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The easiest way would be to unlock the boot loader, then flash Armon's recovery, then flash Modaco's rooted stock ROM(he made a rooted version of the stock updated ROM, no changes other than the root).
It should take about 10 minutes total if you are experienced and bang it out... being new, probably take about 20-30 minutes since I am sure you will be double checking along the way.
There are some great guides in the Nexus One Dev section, the best IMO is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612858
If you already have the full update flashed, you don't need to do the radio again.
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The easiest way would be to unlock the boot loader, then flash Armon's recovery, then flash Modaco's rooted stock ROM(he made a rooted version of the stock updated ROM, no changes other than the root).
It should take about 10 minutes total if you are experienced and bang it out... being new, probably take about 20-30 minutes since I am sure you will be double checking along the way.
There are some great guides in the Nexus One Dev section, the best IMO is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612858
If you already have the full update flashed, you don't need to do the radio again.
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wow. thak you. i'll have to dive into this a little bit later. hopefully it'll be easy.
by the way... do you have to have the Android SDK installed for this to work? because it says to type different commands in, but into what terminal..?
windows XP MCE
zach, I was in the same boat as you, and I was looking for an ultra-noob friendly walkthru for rooting. I found youtube to be the best source, as you can see the process on someone else's phone first. I was shaky reading even the walkthru on xda forums, but youtube cleared it up. Just google "nexus one root" and you'll get a boat-load of videos.
Hope that helps....
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zach, I was in the same boat as you, and I was looking for an ultra-noob friendly walkthru for rooting. I found youtube to be the best source, as you can see the process on someone else's phone first. I was shaky reading even the walkthru on xda forums, but youtube cleared it up. Just google "nexus one root" and you'll get a boat-load of videos.
Hope that helps....
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Oh man I didn't even think of that. Thank you so much for the idea.
The big reason I needed to root the phone was TETHERED access! Both wired and wireless.
I travel a bit, and more often than not I cannot get a decent WIFI signal, or I am in someplace that requires me to pay for access (like a hotel). Almost EVERY hotel in Las Vegas for instance requires you to pay for internet access.... but with tethering... I am golden and surfing the web for free.
I also use SetCPU for profiles for when my phone is sleeping, charging, etc. I can usually squeeze out a little more life in the battery this way. Also... CacheMate is a great tool (especially if you are not using Apps2SD) for recovering extra space.... it's a "root" required app.
If you are a App-o-holic.... and NEED the extra room on your phone... you will want or need Apps 2 SD... .. and will need to have root access to do this.
Hope these suggestions help.
Some of my favorite things about rooting are Cyan's High-Mem Kernel, doubling the memory available, Tethering, Themeing(I can't stand the standard notification bar), and setting my clock speed to stay between 998 and 768. If you think the Nexus is fast now wait till you get High-Mem and change your CPU Clock settings.
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The big reason I needed to root the phone was TETHERED access! Both wired and wireless.
I travel a bit, and more often than not I cannot get a decent WIFI signal, or I am in someplace that requires me to pay for access (like a hotel). Almost EVERY hotel in Las Vegas for instance requires you to pay for internet access.... but with tethering... I am golden and surfing the web for free.
I also use SetCPU for profiles for when my phone is sleeping, charging, etc. I can usually squeeze out a little more life in the battery this way. Also... CacheMate is a great tool (especially if you are not using Apps2SD) for recovering extra space.... it's a "root" required app.
If you are a App-o-holic.... and NEED the extra room on your phone... you will want or need Apps 2 SD... .. and will need to have root access to do this.
Hope these suggestions help.
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so i rooted havent been able to take advantage yet.
where could i get apps 2 sd?
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Some of my favorite things about rooting are Cyan's High-Mem Kernel, doubling the memory available, Tethering, Themeing(I can't stand the standard notification bar), and setting my clock speed to stay between 998 and 768. If you think the Nexus is fast now wait till you get High-Mem and change your CPU Clock settings.
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i'm also interested in this... A LOT! how would i go about getting all of the aforementioned items (kernel, x2 memory, etc) on my nexi?
thank you all guys
Please accept my apology in advanced. This forum is so huge, that when I search I get so much information that I quickly get lost in the sauce.
Having moved from the Vibrant, to the Captivate, and now to the Epic, I'd like to flash my phone with Froyo that has the tethering built in.
Can someone please either tell me the 411 on Froyo with tethering for the Epic, or point me to a link where I can find the rom?
I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks again.
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Please accept my apology in advanced. This forum is so huge, that when I search I get so much information that I quickly get lost in the sauce.
Having moved from the Vibrant, to the Captivate, and now to the Epic, I'd like to flash my phone with Froyo that has the tethering built in.
Can someone please either tell me the 411 on Froyo with tethering for the Epic, or point me to a link where I can find the rom?
I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks again.
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OK. You can first refer to this post for how to update your system to Froyo (DK28):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213
Later, if you want to root your system to get more fun, check this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
OR, if you want a clean wipe-install of the rooted Froyo (not update from your current firmware), check these two posts and pick either one of them to follow as you like (don't follow both):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861220
BUT, remember this full-install will wipe out everything on your phone like contacts, messages etc., so backup your stuff before using this method. It wont affect your stuff on SD card.
Good luck and have fun
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OK. You can first refer to this post for how to update your system to Froyo (DK28):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213
Later, if you want to root your system to get more fun, check this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
OR, if you want a clean wipe-install of the rooted Froyo (not update from your current firmware), check these two posts and pick either one of them to follow as you like (don't follow both):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861220
BUT, remember this full-install will wipe out everything on your phone like contacts, messages etc., so backup your stuff before using this method. It wont affect your stuff on SD card.
Good luck and have fun
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just 16posts and u have become a champ.. great job!!!
okay...
Thank you for the quick response.
I should have been more clear.
The most important part flashing the new rom to my phone is the teathering.
Does the Froyo build that has been leaked (the one Google is giving out), does it come with the native teathering?
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just 16posts and u have become a champ.. great job!!!
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hehe, thanks man
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Thank you for the quick response.
I should have been more clear.
The most important part flashing the new rom to my phone is the teathering.
Does the Froyo build that has been leaked (the one Google is giving out), does it come with the native teathering?
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this is the part i don't really understand. what do you mean by tethering here? are you talking about turning your phone into a hotspot? If this is the case, you don't need to upgrade to Froyo version, just go to market and download EasyTether and follow the instruction. You'll be good. But it's USB-tethering. If you want to use WiFi-tether, you need to root your firmware first and then use Wifi-tether app to do that.
Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about. Does it come with the hot spot functionality that Google built into Froyo (which carriers and manufacturers are removing so they can charge for the service)?
I'm concerned Sprint/Samsung has removed this from the Epic Froyo build. In which case I wont even bother.
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Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about. Does it come with the hot spot functionality that Google built into Froyo (which carriers and manufacturers are removing so they can charge for the service)?
I'm concerned Sprint/Samsung has removed this from the Epic Froyo build. In which case I wont even bother.
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OK, this Froyo build doesn't contain a native tethering. You need additional app "Wifi-tether" or "EasyTether" to make that happen. So you don't need to upgrade to Froyo. You can download those apps in your current Epic system to enable the function. They're easy to use and free. But, again, "Wifi-tether" requires your phone is rooted otherwise it can't work. EasyTether doesn't require that, but in stead, it requires a physical connection of your computer and your phone through USB cable to let your computer use your phone internet service.
I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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There are a lot of opinions about this subject. There are some real pro's to CM6. The tricky thing for most people to understand is that Cyanogenmod is built from the ground up. So when you say you want something that isn't too different, this is going to probably be more unique than you were expecting.
Some great things about CM6 are hidden all throughout the settings, menus, and functions. For example, CM6 is alot cleaner. There aren't any processes that run in the background that you never installed. Whenever you use a stock rom, HTC and Sprint have a number of pre-installed items running. The result is that it is faster.
One huge advantage for me is that CM6 fixes the bluetooth in the phone. Which means that you can connect a Wiimote. This isn't possible with anything that is a variation of the stock rom. Which means only CM6 or other AOSP roms will be capable of supporting the Wiimote on the Evo.
The Cyanogen team has put more focus into things like the way the audio is processed. They use DSP managers to fine tune your audio.
There are some unique settings you can use as well. For example, by holding the back button, you kill whatever app is in the foreground. This eliminates the need for task killers, and lets you truly close an app when you want to.
The biggest pro for most people is that it is substantially faster. This makes games, and other resource heavy apps run smoother. If you use something like PSX4DROID (a playstation emulator), I would recommend this rom because you can use the Wii Controller, and the games will run smoother.
Overall, it's an engineering marvel, because it's built completely by open source developers. These are guys that all have day jobs and do this as a hobby, and in many ways, they do a better job than Google and HTC who have armies of full time developers. That's why they get so much support. Is because it's truly astounding what they do with their resources.
So this might be the blind leading the blind, but I'm a noob as well when it comes to ROM flashing stuff.. From what little you have mentioned CM6 isn't what you want. CM6 is very good but it is not SenseUI, by default it does not have swype, it does not do 4g, hdmi is not there and I'm sure there are other things... That being said, from what I have read, CM is very good for what it is...
If you want to stay relatively stock but with some tweaks, you likely want to look at Fresh or Myn.. do a search in the XDA evo-->android dev forum (actually usually the main thread for those 2 are on page 1 or 2)..
I have settled on Fresh because it uses the latest Sprint rom as its basis so you get most of the new stuff out of the box ie. swype.
Myn has a beta out there using the new rom, but I don't know where it is to download and I am not a good beta tester so I will just wait..
From a process perspective, I downloaded Rom manager from the Marketplace, flashed the latest Clockwork recovery and used the rom manager to download fresh and let it install it for me.. Be sure to check mark the clean everything checkbox in rom manager when it asks..
Hope that helps...
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I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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I think I'm gonna go with Cm6 just bc it seems like they have plenty of features. But what do u mean not hdmi? Like not even pictures and videos?
Also can someone give me a link to how to install them.. Thanks
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bradleyw801 already did a good job of the Pros, so I'll list the Cons of CM6 (there aren't many):
1. It's the hardest of the ROMs to flash. Reads laughable but to someone who is really new to this whole thing, it's true. Most ROMs you can just flash and tryout. CM6 you need to flash twice: once for CM itself and once for the Google Apps (it's pretty useless without the gapps). ROM Manager makes this pretty painless with a simple checkbox, so follow above advice, but still be aware you need GAPPS.
2. No 4G Support. Yet. That's the keyword, as there are a few devs on this very forum who are runningCM with 4G .... it's just in alpha stages.
3. No HDMI Support. Yet. Again keyword ... but less so. HDMI out is one of those things you hear about every so often but nothing ever surfaces from it. It's like Duke Nukem Forever.
4. For all the Sense bashing that some will do, HTC had some very nice widgets that most people miss when they go to CM. Most notable is the big clock widget. Now there are market apps that emulate it, but the only ones that do a good job of it cost money (beautiful widgets and fancy widgets pro). Be ready to look for apps to replace what came shipped with your EVO if there are some things you like and would rather not be without.
Hope that helps.
Ok now Cm6 doesn't sound great. I actually use my hdmi, are there any roms easy to flash.. i just want one that makes my phone smoother and also so unneeded apps don't run in the background?
Bc mine now is getting slow like when I open my messeges and are going from person to person it takes forever. Thanks again
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I'm new, my evo is rooted tho but now I wanna install a rom. Isn't Cm6 probably the best? I want one that's not much different just smoother.. can someone give me some pros and cons and also a link to maybe a tutorial of how to download and install roms.
Does it delete anything to install a rom?
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Well, now that you are rooted it would be a perfect time to get used to making backups and flashing.
You could try making a nand bacckup and flashing CM6(.1.2) and seeing how well it suits you. Like any (or most) ROMs there are themes and you can mess around with different things to make it more to your liking. CM6 is as stock Android as you can get. I don't necessarily dislike Sense, and some of the Sense widgets are really cool (and are for the most part replaceable) but in the end I like the feeling of just plain Android.
The lack of 4G and HDMI out is more of a personal user thing. I haven't missed my 4G and I've been using CM6 for my Evo for almost the whole damn time, since it was first released that is. HDMI never really interested me before, but full UI out is something else entirely. Before it was just hype to me.
CyanogenMod just feels right on the Evo. Best way to decide is to take the plunge and maybe set it up for a day. Restoring a backup is super simple. Take the necessary steps to flash successfully and check it out.
And as for things being deleted off the SD card; not sure if you mean everything or specific things. Things like SMS, call logs etc are not backed up but YOU can back them up in various manners. Some SMS backup apps or what have you which I've never tried. Call log I assume as well. Email and things like that, which are tied to your Google Account are backed up by "The Cloud" or whatever you want to say, and same goes for contacts if you've obviously synced them with your google account. Like, contacts under phone can be synced with google account that way the phone contacts aren't deleted, unless I have that last part wrong.
You can wipe the SD card completely, but that doesn't really happen when you wipe data, cache and dalvik. Just the important stuff so the ROM takes. Check it!
edit: didn't hit submit right away, late post as it seems your not really feeling it. you can remove bloat apps that you don't see fit in ROMs, things that someone might have not removed themselves (even then removed apps are usually available at your discretion) but not all apps can be removed. There are lists about that have "safe to remove apps" and the like.
try it for yourself, if it doesn't do what you need it to, flash another ROM. pretty much any AOSP based ROM has issues with wimax and HDMI but there are many strong ROM's to run, you will probably change it up from time to time and the hardest thing you will find is trying not to flash
You really should try out roms for yourself instead of listening to others. Some people like some things and others like others. I've run CM on 2 phones now (MyTouch Slide and G2) and it's been extremely stable, fast and just fantastic. If it had wimax and hdmi working i'd have it right now (I like watching hulu on my big screen while I eat ).
If you want something that has everything working, myn's warm twopointtwo rom works if you have the older Evo hardware (pre-0004). It's very nice and still runs sense or mikfroyo, which also has sense, but it supports the new evos.
If you want vanilla android and can wait for the wimax and hdmi, get CM, there's just no alternatives. If you can't wait, go to the dev section and look for the threads that start with [rom] and see if any of them suit you better.
Fwiw...I'm a total noob to the android scene. I'm fairly tech savvy, good in general with pc's, hacking tivo's, etc..nonetheless I was very hesitant to root and flash my evo. But, I took three plunge last night, first rooting, then performing a nand backup. I then uninstalled all the sprint apps successfully. I was fairly happy at this point.but I have been experiencing random reboots and sense crashes prior to rooting. So I took the plunge and flashed cm6.1 and gapps last night.
I have to say I wish I had to done this months ago, I love the look, feel,and performance of cm / stock android. I struggled with battery life before flashing, but there is a significant improvement in batt life since ive flashed. I also installed swype beta,as I had received an invite just prior to sprint including swype. Im bummed about the lack of 4g, but 4g is hit and miss in the south bay so I cant complain too much. Oh ya, wifi tether is an added bonus.
I say go for it. ;-)
Well the biggest con is that you can't use 4g or hdmi, which defeats the purpose of buying the evo and paying $10 fee for 4g. Not to mention the fact that stock android looks like a 3rd rate Linux distro from early 2000s.
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so me running cm6 defeats the purpose of me owning my phone????
I dont live in a 4g area......4g is only really advantage when tethering to a laptop
Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Ok guys thanks for everything but i really need a link so i can figure out how to backup and flash and rom...
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Sure. First sticky at the top of the forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
The stickies are pretty comprehensive for the EVO. Pretty much anything you'll want to know will be there.
As for CM6. It's super fast. I love it. I don't mind being without 4G (at least when I'm not testing ) and HDMI (I use Twonky Media Server to stream pics and vids to my Xbox over wifi).
Both of these features are coming soon so if you decide to go with another ROM, just keep following CM for updates on these features. When they are done I don't see why you wouldn't use CM.
As for alternative roms... I know Myns is very popular.
Also, I'll note, you can always flash CM6 and play with it for a bit and then wipe and flash any other rom.
tl;dr - Read the sticky, try myns and follow CM progress.
You might want to take a look at MIUI. It's well designed (unlike Sense), is pretty fast (faster than Sense), and has a ton of extra features (like Sense). While it doesn't have WiMax right now the CM guys are close to getting it working; and since both are based on AOSP, it will be relatively easy to port to MIUI. I prefer CM but if I didn't have a iPhone (since MIUI tends to feel like a copy of it) I'd probably use MIUI.
If you can live without 4g then go for it. The battery life is great. I flashed a sense rom today and with in an hour I was flashing back to cm6.
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Ok thanks now one last question I think... when I do nandroid backup does it save my apps? Bc i was watching a video it said u have to nandroid backup and apps with titanium I think...
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bottom line: try a few ROMs, each for a day, and stick with what you like. no substitute for trying it out yourself.
fine print: i'm a vintage user. I was running android on my Vogue before there was an android phone, when GPS would always place you in san fransisco (someone will know what that's all about - thanks dzo). anyways, having a rooted phone is about many things, but one of them is the ability to flash and try what you want.
if you've got a deal breaker, like 4g or HDMI out, sure that limits you now, but as posted before keep reading and trying new things as they come out. if you're lucky, you may yet become a flash-aholic.
i'm a sense guy; not for the launcher (off and on i'm running adw, lp, and sense home, depends on the month), but for the sense apps. I love the sense messaging app, that's the program I use most on my phone. I ran vanilla for a long time on my vogue, and I tried out CM6 for a day. it's just not me. and I never use 4G or HDMI. you won't know what fits you until you try, though.
to each their own. use what you like.
I use to be a die hard CM fan but now Im using MIUI. Both have a lot of nice features.
Titanium Backup will allow you to backup apps selectively and then reinstall them later. (you can do many other things as well) This is very useful, especially for apps that you can not easily obtain. (ie. not available in the app store) An example is any game from GameLoft or a beta that you may have. (like Swype before it was deployed) So after you switch to CM6 or whichever ROM you can then load these apps on to the new ROM.
Maybe its just me, but I'd like to see Rom manager properly used for our device.
My friend has the ego 4G and when using Rom manager he early goes to xda for his updates or a new Rom because for the Evo devs have it set up so their Rom populated the download section of Rom manager. Also this way when a Rom is updated you get a notification that there's an update.
This would benefit the users of the mt4g because a lot of the Rom downloads and mirrors are not always mobile friendly.
Was just wondering why none of our devs take use of this feature.
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Maybe its just me, but I'd like to see Rom manager properly used for our device.
My friend has the ego 4G and when using Rom manager he early goes to xda for his updates or a new Rom because for the Evo devs have it set up so their Rom populated the download section of Rom manager. Also this way when a Rom is updated you get a notification that there's an update.
This would benefit the users of the mt4g because a lot of the Rom downloads and mirrors are not always mobile friendly.
Was just wondering why none of our devs take use of this feature.
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Me and RK have been talking about it. I dont know if it will work with the multiupload links, so we need to see how his server is gonna be able to handle the load.
- We do a lot that you guys dont even have a clue we're doing.
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Me and RK have been talking about it. I dont know if it will work with the multiupload links, so we need to see how his server is gonna be able to handle the load.
- We do a lot that you guys dont even have a clue we're doing.
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i dont doubt that a bit! option, and team royal, are always busy behind the curtains! just thought it was a bit odd that the mt4g roms arent on there... but yall recomend that we do a full wipe every time and ppl may also try to flash via ROM manager rather than recovery and doing a TRUE full wipe as advised... so i can see both sides as wellits all good in the hood homie, just wanted to put in my 2 cents
We could make it work with rom manager, at this point its just a matter of hosting bandwidth and such.
2 things:
1) Load balancing (deals with server issues)
2) How much bandwidth?
I happen to have 3 dedicated servers in EU(London), USA(NY), and USA(CA) and may be able to help. Servers are used for work (not just idle), but it may be enough...
These are windows servers btw.
I like to share a thought with everyone, but specially with the programmers.
How come all rom’s for this Smartphone, that looks like a computer, don't include a simple File Explorer?
It’s so basic, isn’t it?
Perhaps next roms can include this simple but so usefull feature....
MIUI has a file explorer, the philosophy for the Oxygen ROM is to make it as light as possible, and from the void. OP : "I hate ROMs out there which impose you their applications, keyboard, launchers and any other trash. No, it's my belief we have market for some reason, so use it."
AFAIK the CM7 got a file explorer... I usually install a new file explorer (the one from Stockwell's B160) when I use other ROMs than MIUI
MIUI is the Rom I just flashed and the explorer in it has 3 option (Navigate/SD Card/FTP) well non of this work with me, e.g., can't see any files.
I don’t have external SD card but we should be able to "navigate" on the phone directories.
The other, I understand and respect the philosophy of keeping things as light as possible, but it’s a file explorer, how heavy could this be?
Tried to use the internal sd card, and I understand your problem. Hopefully there is a fix for this, because the MIUI file explorer is relly nice
MIUI is only nice for the eyes.
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MIUI is only nice for the eyes.
Performance is 0 (Z...E....R....o....)
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Your post isn't helping anyone, nor contributing to the topic.
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MIUI is only nice for the eyes.
Performance is 0 (Z...E....R....o....)
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I don't really think that MIUI is that useless.. I just underclocked my phone a bit(just 'coz MIUIs default clock freq. is 1018 and I wanted to compare to stock(806)) and quadrant averaged around 2000, which is approximately 500 points higher than an average stock-ROM would have given me..
Well, all stock-ROMs are still froyo, so maybe that is the biggest boost in performance, but in my experience, MIUI with franco-kernel and zram is quite good.
AND it's nice to the eye!
Oh, and I was running minmax, not performance..
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Pj77 said:
[...] Performance is 0 (Z...E....R....o....)
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I must totally disagree with you there. I find Stockwell's MIUI very fast, even when not overclocked. And with Franco.kernel and zram it is blazing fast.. Maby you didn't try the ROM long enough. At first after you flash it, it stutters in the launcher etc. But i think it just needs to build up cache or something, then after 1-3 minutes it is fast!
Actually android have a file manager by default. I don't understand why the rom creators don't include it.
This thread is pretty much useless...Just use the freaking Market and download Astro or FS File Manager...Is that so hard??
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This thread is pretty much useless...Just use the freaking Market and download Astro or FS File Manager...Is that so hard??
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Agreed, if that so hard, you shouldn't even choose android
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katu2006 said:
This thread is pretty much useless...Just use the freaking Market and download Astro or FS File Manager...Is that so hard??
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Are you kidding me? In android, you can choose not the share your gmail account. I can understand you can trust google or you don't afraid anything from google. But this is people choices. You can at least respect their additude about that. Do you aware of the market don't work without gmail account? Maybe i don't want to use my any accounts on phone.
If you don't have a file manager, you can't install any application.
Well, this topic is not useless.
Please..
Özgürce said:
Are you kidding me? In android, you can choose not the share your gmail account. I can understand you can trust google or you don't afraid anything from google. But this is people choices. You can at least respect their additude about that. Do you aware of the market don't work without gmail account? Maybe i don't want to use my any accounts on phone.
If you don't have a file manager, you can't install any application.
Well, this topic is not useless.
Please..
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) You're gotta be joking... This is a funny one )
You're saying that you don't want to use the Market at all? If that's the case, than you've made a mistake buying an Android phone or any smartphone for that matter.
I don't mean to offend anybody, but there is nothing to respect here, this attitude is actually childish... If you've installed a custom ROM, then you should know how to install a File Manager from CWM and stop winging about something silly things.
What is the difference with using or without it? I just don't get it the why people forced to use market or data connection. Thats all. Even if the people can use CWM that is not mean they can make update package. I mean update-script .. bla bla.. Filemanager is just 689KB file. I don't get the point removing it.
Whatever. Seems like i can't make myself clear to you.
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What is the difference with using or without it? I just don't get it the why people forced to use market or data connection. Thats all. Even if the people can use CWM that is not mean they can make update package. I mean update-script .. bla bla.. Filemanager is just 689KB file. I don't get the point removing it.
Whatever. Seems like i can't make myself clear to you.
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Market is meant to help you, nobody is forcing you to use it, but if it's there and it's free, why not use it?
I believe there are some licensing issues, as most application developers are not happy when their app is distributed with custom Roms (if the file manager is free, the app developer gets paid through the number of downloads each day and if everybody stops downloading, then developers are not going to be happy). That's why CM7 doesn't have the Google Market and other Roms are missing apps...
pls stop commenting on other people's preferences..
if u think a particular request is childish/stupid/useless/whatever, just ignore the whole thread!
whats the point of teasing/offending other's request and giving no help at all?
to prove that u r superior or what?!
this is indeed childish imho..
pls just stop dis-helping here.. please!
if you want/need a file manager why dont you download the apk of one and put it inside the zip of the rom? that way it will be there when it gets installed.
iamelton said:
pls stop commenting on other people's preferences..
if u think a particular request is childish/stupid/useless/whatever, just ignore the whole thread!
whats the point of teasing/offending other's request and giving no help at all?
to prove that u r superior or what?!
this is indeed childish imho..
pls just stop dis-helping here.. please!
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I've explained why there is no File Manager (in Oxygen and CM7) and how to get get/install it...if this is "dis-helping" then you've big issues...
The point is: don't expect Developers to hold your hand with every everything you want to install on a CUSTOM rom, they've got better things to do.
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I've explained why there is no File Manager (in Oxygen and CM7) and how to get get/install it...if this is "dis-helping" then you've big issues...
The point is: don't expect Developers to hold your hand with every everything you want to install on a CUSTOM rom, they've got better things to do.
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Are you sure about that ? CM7 have it in official packages.
We are not kids. Watch your words. And i'm talking to rom developers not you anymore. If they have better things to do, they can talk and reject to make this you know?
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I've explained why there is no File Manager (in Oxygen and CM7) and how to get get/install it...if this is "dis-helping" then you've big issues...
The point is: don't expect Developers to hold your hand with every everything you want to install on a CUSTOM rom, they've got better things to do.
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u got me totally wrong (just as u usually did in other posts as well)..
i dont need a file explorer in this rom (or whatever rom).. i like to keep roms minimal and thats why i choose oxygen..
what im saying is that even if u and i dont need this, it doesnt mean those who want it childish..
and if the developers think this request is not to be entertained, its their decision..
what on earth gives u the authority to judge other's requests, and make comments such as "childish"?
this is what im against..
(anyway i dont know if u can read or comprehend others words properly..)