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Hi guys,
Wonddering if I could get your thoughts about the step up that the Desire HD will be in terms of performance and functionality? I have the option of upgrading to one for an extra $120.
Pros I can think of so far:
- 4.3" vs 3.7" screen but not that much bigger weight/size wise
- More RAM
- 1.5GB onboard memory
- Faster 45nm Snapdragon processor
- Better Camera (8MP), dual LED flash - according to the engadget review though its still a "camera phone" and thus is only really for random snaps.
Cons:
- Same problem as G2 (Desire Z) with only temporary root
- If the above problem is not solved, slower updates, no custom ROMs
Any other thoughts? My other concern is that the bigger screen aside, performance and functionality wise it doesn't do anything in particular that the N1 can't. However, is $120 a cheap enough jump?
Look forward to your thoughts.
cheers
My recommendation is to wait for the Christmas. Google may have a surprise for us (nexus 2? Probably not, but maybe something else), Samsung just said they are announcing a new phone on Nov 3..
Im thinking of upgrading also! Will wait around for a bit longer though
I'm sitting tight until I see more infos about the rumored N2
Yes, it is. I want to. I love the new Sense UI.
I might just wait until Motorola's and HTC's Tegra 2 dual core phones show up Christmas.
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Samsung just said they are announcing a new phone on Nov 3..
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Link / proof of this?
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Link / proof of this?
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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/25/samsung-announcing-new-android-device-on-november-8th/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/25/samsung-announcing-new-android-device-on-november-8th/
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Thanks. Nov 8th* though, not 3rd. Should be interesting...
I have both and I must say, the big screen makes SO MUCH of a difference!
When I put them side by side, the HD's screen just looks amazing! Clear and sharp, I have to remind myself that its still at the same resolution.
And of course, watching movies, reading comics, books, playing games, etc. is all much better.
I think its worth the upgrade.
Another point - No more worrying about A2SD. My N1 has A2SD enabled to be able to take the number of apps I have installed (DHD has same apps and also 680MB free mem still).
The battery life, OTOH, is still to be tested. I know I get great battery life with enomther's rom on my N1. The DHD feels more like I have cyanogen's rom on it
liqn7 said:
Hi guys,
Wonddering if I could get your thoughts about the step up that the Desire HD will be in terms of performance and functionality? I have the option of upgrading to one for an extra $120.
Pros I can think of so far:
- 4.3" vs 3.7" screen but not that much bigger weight/size wise
- More RAM
- 1.5GB onboard memory
- Faster 45nm Snapdragon processor
- Better Camera (8MP), dual LED flash - according to the engadget review though its still a "camera phone" and thus is only really for random snaps.
Cons:
- Same problem as G2 (Desire Z) with only temporary root
- If the above problem is not solved, slower updates, no custom ROMs
Any other thoughts? My other concern is that the bigger screen aside, performance and functionality wise it doesn't do anything in particular that the N1 can't. However, is $120 a cheap enough jump?
Look forward to your thoughts.
cheers
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I want the desirehd as well, but theres two things im gonna wait for... 1 - permament root, 2 - 2.3 based CM rom.
Thats my two cents.
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I personally won't go with any phone that cannot have permanent root. I like to tinker too much.
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Thanks. Nov 8th* though, not 3rd. Should be interesting...
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Woops, 8, not 3. Sorry.
Thanks for the input everyone. I'll see what happens when it arrives in 2 weeks. I think at this stage the only thing which would make me keep it is for the extra 0.6" screen size.
I'm also getting a 10" tablet too, so the extra size may be redundant as I transfer some of my tasks across.
My question to you, OP, is how often are you capable of upgrading your phone? Are you gonna be stuck with this phone for a while? If you're financially capable of upgrading let's say every 6 months with no problem at all, then i don't see why not, more phones to play with. You'd still be able to get the next best thing come first half of next year.
I don't upgrade all that often for the sake of it. I've recalculated (correctly) and its actually going to cost me $270 for the upgrade
Which in my opinion probably isn't worth it in regards to the step up it provides relative to the N1.
If I really want to upgrade I might get a Vibrant, which has similar specs to the Desire HD, but which is about the same price as the N1 at the moment.
Thanks for your input!
Dhd is a mean phone, no bones about it but the no hacking thing is a little bit of a turn off for me.
Gonna wait for a bit to see what the nexus two will be like first. After all the google phone will always be the development phone and ergo the hackers phone.
For a person who doesn't wish to hack and just wants a good phone I would recommend the dhd over anything else on the market right now however.
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It does look pretty smart but the one thing I would say is 4.3" isn't very friendly on the thumb if your hands are of an average/large size.
I get to play with a lot of phones and the Touch HD and Nexus One/Desire thereafter were built with the optimum size screen for touch/visibility (in my opinion).
I used an HD7 today and just like the HD2 it looks great but it really is a stretch to use one hand to operate all areas of the screen.
It's definitly impressive but I should be able to hold my cuppa in one hand and browse etc with the other.
I really hope with the big willy competition going on with the manufacturers that the usability (which lets be honest is checking mails,texts, social media and browsing for most users) isn't completely forgotten about.
Hopefully 3.7" will survive.
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Dhd is a mean phone, no bones about it but the no hacking thing is a little bit of a turn off for me.
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+1 the temp root thing is making me wary of changing too.
Hopefully it gets solved, but like the Droid it may never be..
Nothing against the DHD itself, but thanks guys for reinforcing that relative to the N1 the DHD is not that much of a step up.
So a mate got this phone last night. I had a play around with it for a little bit. ITS BLOODY HUGE!! 4.3" i think is just too big! Build quality etc seems very good. nice screen but just a bit to big for my liking! Has some nice new options though with Sense 2.0
At work we got the Omnia 7 (WP7) which has a 4" screen. Now this i think is the perfect size!
I upgraded to a desire hd after my nexus one broke. The desire hd feels a lot more expensive than the nexus but in my opinion not worth an upgrade. I miss the hackability of my old nexus and I especially miss cyanogen mod.
Don't get me wrong, overclocking the desire hd to speeds around 1.5ghz added with the better gpu makes for one hell of a speedy device. It's a great phone but its not that much better
okay so first how do you guys feel with it is it snappy can it run the new apps fast?
hows flash videos playing?
do you think htc will update it soon or is now a good time to get one?
with the 2.2 out hows flash video? generally dose it feel good?
also i can buy it at best buy for 350 plus i get a 100$ bestbuy card so 250
you think its a good buy or get a nexus one used/vibrant for 300?
You shouldn't buy a Legend if your aim is to run apps fast.
Adobe flash doesn't work on Legend, but official rom has Flash Lite from HTC.
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okay so first how do you guys feel with it is it snappy can it run the new apps fast?
hows flash videos playing?
do you think htc will update it soon or is now a good time to get one?
with the 2.2 out hows flash video? generally dose it feel good?
also i can buy it at best buy for 350 plus i get a 100$ bestbuy card so 250
you think its a good buy or get a nexus one used/vibrant for 300?
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its slow and buggy woul have been better off on 2.1 if u ask me
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thanks guys
Legend is a great phone. I really dislike big phones like the Nexus1, HTC Desire, iPhone, GalaxyS.
Legend fits the bill perfectly, it's got great build quality, it's pretty fast (600Mhz CPU), but it's GPU is faster than most high end phones, outperforming 1GHZ snapdragon phones for gaming and graphically intensive stuff.
For $250, it sounds like a great buy.
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Legend is a great phone. I really dislike big phones like the Nexus1, HTC Desire, iPhone, GalaxyS.
Legend fits the bill perfectly, it's got great build quality, it's pretty fast (600Mhz CPU), but it's GPU is faster than most high end phones, outperforming 1GHZ snapdragon phones for gaming and graphically intensive stuff.
For $250, it sounds like a great buy.
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Legend pretty fast are you crazy and the only thing the gpu will out perform is a wildfire ...... if your lucky. I came from desire > desire hd > legend
the legend is the best lookin phone out of them all i think but definatly the slowes my legend even lags when playin angry birds so dont see how it could out perform any high end snapdragon. well worth $250 tho.
got a local buyer that is selling a mint nexus one for 320 you think its worth it,
also for calling dose the chin on the legend make voice conversations better?>
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got a local buyer that is selling a mint nexus one for 320 you think its worth it,
also for calling dose the chin on the legend make voice conversations better?>
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not really had the phone long enough to say about the legend calls.
I have never had the nexus but on paper its a better phone, but it will never look as nice as the legend. You have to choose between spec or design, and the nexus will more than likley get gingerbread
The battery can't hold a charge, the unibody design impairs getting signal in low reception areas, scrolling is jerky on almost everything, pinch to zoom is completely unusable and the camera is crap.
Don't do it man.
I get a day and a half on a charge with WiFi always on, so the battery is excellent. I never had any issues with pinch to zoom. The camera is very good imo. WiFi reception is very good as is GPS and cell signal. Call quality is excellent, as per the people I call. The music player does not have an eq, that is my only gripe. Oh, and the buttons below the screen seem cheap. But hey, for $250 its a great deal. you cant even get a new iphone 3Gs for that.
Pro: I like the legend's smaller physical size when I carry it in my pants pocket (which is always unless I'm using it). I have no problems with the battery -- I charge it every second or third night depending on how much I play with the phone. Of course if you use it a lot, you'll be charging it every night.
Con: The camera is the worst phone camera I've had[1] - everything that isn't staying perfectly still will get smudged, so it's not good for taking pictures at concerts or parties or of children. The aluminum edge along the top doesn't feel nice against my ear when talking on the phone. If you want to use the web a lot on the phone, you might want something with a higher resolution -- like the nexus one.
All in all, I'm not unhappy with my legend, and I have no plans for getting rid of it. Maybe when android phone cameras start beating the Nokia N8.
Personal recommendation: I'd invest the extra $70 to get the nexus one.
[1] Previous camera phones: SE k800i, Nokia N82.
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The battery can't hold a charge, the unibody design impairs getting signal in low reception areas, scrolling is jerky on almost everything, pinch to zoom is completely unusable and the camera is crap.
Don't do it man.
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erm, not for me dude, all those things are A OK.
I love my Legend, the build quality and design are superb and, although it isn't the fastest phone in the world, it performs just fine.
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The battery can't hold a charge, the unibody design impairs getting signal in low reception areas, scrolling is jerky on almost everything, pinch to zoom is completely unusable and the camera is crap.
Don't do it man.
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you must have got a bad one? all those things are good for me?
like another has mentioned the edge by the screen is a bit sharp but thats really my only complaint...its very close to being the 'perfect phone'
nolook said:
you must have got a bad one? all those things are good for me?
like another has mentioned the edge by the screen is a bit sharp but thats really my only complaint...its very close to being the 'perfect phone'
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I have to agree it is more than likley a bad phone mine is pretty decent as stock but things get a lot better once you get a custom rom and overclock it things get smoother but still not really a fast phone just reasonable. For me this phone is all about looks.
ive got a legend and regret it.
i was choosing between the desire and the legend and really wish i went the desire.
i chose the legend due to size but the desire is not much bigger and is much better. better cpu and bigger screen for surfing and apps. the keyboard is a little too cramped for my liking and i dont even have fat fingers.
the legend doesn't have enough storage for apps (yes 2.2 may fix this) plus the CPU can get bogged down and now for me the plastic cap on the bottom at the back is coming off so easily when i go to pull the phone out of my pocket. the plastic cap is the aerial, so when it is pulled off you lose reception.
i got my legend in april and i cant wait to upgrade to the nexus s in the coming months.
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ive got a legend and regret it.
i was choosing between the desire and the legend and really wish i went the desire.
i chose the legend due to size but the desire is not much bigger and is much better. better cpu and bigger screen for surfing and apps. the keyboard is a little too cramped for my liking and i dont even have fat fingers.
the legend doesn't have enough storage for apps (yes 2.2 may fix this) plus the CPU can get bogged down and now for me the plastic cap on the bottom at the back is coming off so easily when i go to pull the phone out of my pocket. the plastic cap is the aerial, so when it is pulled off you lose reception.
i got my legend in april and i cant wait to upgrade to the nexus s in the coming months.
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When the desire/legend was first release I got the desire then swaped it for a desire hd and now ended up buyin the legend as this was the 1 i really wanted but i went for spec over style and 3 fones later i finally have 1 and dont regret it 1 bit. well at least not yet as for the cpu gettin bogged down just use set cpu an it should be fine mine is running at 800MHz runs a lot better an smoother and now with data2ext the speed really shouldnt be an issue as far as the plastic cap goes you could always buy a new 1.
legend is a real smartphone compared to the others. they are more like pocket pc
we have great dev crew and ongoing skinning and modding
buy legend
Hello everyone. I recently got tired bit of HD2 and would like to get a new phone. Nexus one and moto defy are in my price range. What are your thoughts on N1? Is battery life good? What about screen, is it of nice quality?
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You're better off getting something newer.
Unfortunately there are no better phones for $270, off contract, that will work on t-mobile USA network
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I think you've answered your own question then?
danger-rat said:
I think you've answered your own question then?
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Hm, but both, defy and N1, cost ~$270 new in box.
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Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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Well I should have started with what I expect from it. I do a lot of browsing, reading, and most important - watching videos via flash player and Skyfire. I do gaming, some MMO and strategy/building.
What do you mean by fuzzyness?
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N1 is a great phone, and has a lot of life left. Have you thought about a g2x? Its a new phone but there are quite a few for sale, and fairly cheaply. Its got a great screen IMHO and would be better suited for gaming and video watching.
But after 18 months I'm still on my nexus one and its as able as ever.
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I'm also trying to decide between these two phones, I want to buy one used and cheap. Please tell your opinions about both.
I don't like motorola because of locked bootloaders. Now it is possible to install roms but it may be tricky. I would like run ubuntu or backtrack ok the phone, so I guess I should choose nexus. However, what are the things you don't like in a nexus one? Is it not multi touch? does it have 3d chip? Is it so bad for games? Any other issues
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N1 is a great phone, and has a lot of life left. Have you thought about a g2x? Its a new phone but there are quite a few for sale, and fairly cheaply. Its got a great screen IMHO and would be better suited for gaming and video watching.
But after 18 months I'm still on my nexus one and its as able as ever.
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g2x seems to have dozens of issues. Starting from random reboots, all the way to loss of signal. I was thinking of it too, but I somehow do not trust LG brand that much
the defy is more of a mid range phone while the n1 is/was high end.
the processor on the defy is quite slow and you will notice a speed difference.
the n1 screen is also a lot nicer due to higher res and amoled as well as actual size.
is performance doesn't matter too much then the choice is more about size, do you prefer a larger screen or smaller phone..?
I sold my brand new mytouch 4g on ebay for the going rate of around $280.
Not a horrible phone in terms of speed. T-mobile too.
N1 is prettier tho.
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g2x seems to have dozens of issues. Starting from random reboots, all the way to loss of signal. I was thinking of it too, but I somehow do not trust LG brand that much
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I have a g2x (about to sell), got a cheap upgrade and my phone was totally free of problems. CM7 is now running pretty smooth on it, making it a great phone in my opinion. I ended up reverting back to my N1 because I like the form factor, the g2x just a little too big. I'm now banking on the next Nexus, really hoping that they put a 4" screen (which I really enjoyed on my g2x) in a smaller build.
That said, the N1 is rock solid. Its a known quantity, the issues are negligible, and there has been a ton of development contributing to a great little machine. CM7 on it is just fantastic and only getting better, making N1, 18 months since its introduction, a better and better phone (my battery life with the latest CM nightlies is best its ever been).
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the defy is more of a mid range phone while the n1 is/was high end.
the processor on the defy is quite slow and you will notice a speed difference.
the n1 screen is also a lot nicer due to higher res and amoled as well as actual size.
is performance doesn't matter too much then the choice is more about size, do you prefer a larger screen or smaller phone..?
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I believe they both have 3.7 displays. What about Adreno 200 GPU? I believe I have the same CPU and GPU on my HTC HD2, but you know, this phone is not native to android OS, so would Nexus One's performance be better than one of HTC HD2?
danger-rat said something related to the fuzziness of the screen. Can someone please explain that to me. I have never held Nexus One in my hands.
Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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AntonJart said:
danger-rat said something related to the fuzziness of the screen. Can someone please explain that to me. I have never held Nexus One in my hands.
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Some say the pentile layout used in AMOLED in N1 causes the text not sharp enough. I guess it is what fuzziness means.
But personally I can't really tell the difference. Plus, you may try to find a 2nd hand SLCD N1 instead of AMOLED one.
AMOLED seems a bit too saturated for me, while some of my friends praise it... picking SLCD or AMOLED will be your own personal choice
One thing for certain is that the MT on N1 is far from perfect, and it is a hardware issue, there is no solution (and never will be) to the crappy MT performance on N1.
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Thanks for the reply
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One thing for certain is that the MT on N1 is far from perfect, and it is a hardware issue, there is no solution (and never will be) to the crappy MT performance on N1.
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I just saw that on youtube. It is not good, unfortunately
I bought an N1 when It came out and loved it. Over time the little issues the N1 had started to annoy me. So I bought an HD2 and put android on it. To me HD2>N1
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I bought an N1 when It came out and loved it. Over time the little issues the N1 had started to annoy me. So I bought an HD2 and put android on it. To me HD2>N1
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I have HD2 now. I am tired of battery life now. It gets top 4-5 hours while playing. I had to carry portable charger at work)
Well Anton
I have an N1 and i have to say it is really the best phone i have ever held...
But it is not perfect, it has a few problems which depending on you, may be a deal breaker:
1- Internal memory is only 512mb, out of which, only 192 mb is dedicated for apps... which leaves you with next to nothing ... of course this is all solved with apps 2sd, darktremor or other solutions, they remain in the end, a work around... So it is not as good as having a good internal memory storage.
2- is the lack of front camera, which for me, makes the phone lacking in terms of future growth, especially when all handhelds get video calling apps like tango or skype, and you would be stuck behind the curve.
N1 vs defy:
My friend just got a defy, it has a smaller screen than the N1 and a lower processor speed than the N1, but it comes with water resistant and shock resistant features which are a bonus.
In the end its up to u... and what you like.
For me, I love the N1's community support, the HUGE list of custom roms and modifications, and the amazing trackball and the trackball LED notifications. As well as its cool looks and the fact that it kinda still is Google's flagship phone and an amazingly sturdy and cool phone... I love it!
Edit: oh and as for battery life, I am getting much better performance on CM7.1 RC1 than i used to get when it was froyo, I usually get 1.5 days with average use and smart usage (wifi/bluetooth/3g off unless i need them and screen brightness on auto)
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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I know exactly what you mean, yesterday i was with a friend that bought the S2, I was so jealous ), but only until we putted our phones side by side, there wasn´t a difference between speeds, the screen is much bright of course, but it feels somewhat artificial to me, the camera has very nice colors, more vivid than the HD2 runing Android, better but not huge difference, and what blowed me away was that my HD2 was faster to open some apps, I know that the his S2 is bone stock but that reminded me that the time to upgrade to something new hasn´t come yet, and when i started to boot 4 different roms my friend couldn´t believe it..
The HD2 is still a great phone..
FriedSushi87 said:
Are you trying to decide if you should get an HTC Sensation and upgrade your HD2? Looking at those super awesome midnight deals over at T-Mobile.com for FREE sensations, and find it somewhat irresistible?
HAVE NO FEAR!
I have an HD2, and I just added a second line so my girlfriend could get the FREE Sensation, and I just spent a little bit playing around with both of them side-by-side.
They've very similar, I didn't really notice that big of a difference in speed between the phones. The brightness and vividness of the Sensation is of course much better, but it doesn't really "BLOW AWAY' the HD2. Don't get me wrong, it's a really nice display, but the qHD didn't make me gasp or anything. (unlike the SUPER AMOLED+).
In quadrant, she got 1440, and I got 1348. In speedtest.net, she got about 3.1 MB/s down, and I got 2.7 MB/s down.
The weight, thickness, height, and width are all about the same, with the Sensation being slivers less in each category.
The back of the Sensation is rounded, letting it sit in your hand better, but I think it also makes it feel less "sturdy". Maybe that's just because I had a rubber case on mine.
I was insanely jealous of her for the last few days while knowing that her phone was coming and she'd have a better phone than me, but honestly, now that I'm playing around with it a little bit, I'm not too worried. Sure, it has better technical specifications, dual core, more RAM, dual camera, better screen...ect... but it's nothing crazy awesome.
If you're on the fence on whether or not you should upgrade to the HTC Sensation or not, don't get me wrong; it's an amazing phone, just not "necessary".
Anyways, save a bit of your money, and instead just buy an extended battery for your HD2, or save up for the Galaxy S2 or Samsung Hercules, or whatever else is coming after that. I know I will be. Plus, with the incredible support by the community here for hacking new ROMs onto it, I'd stick with the HD2 for the time being.
Just my 2 cents. Hopefully you find this thread helpful.
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
awesome post. Exactly the info I needed. Yeah, waiting is the best bet (if you can wait)
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So how's web browsing, pinch to zoom, scrolling when the page is loading (on default browser) & ofc, flash video/website loading times?
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All of those are about the same on Sensation stock as they are on HD2 CM7...
This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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This makes me feel so much better, but at the same time feeling disappointed that there hasn't really been a major improvement in easily recognisable performance
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Well, we are comparing custom ROMs with bloated stock ROMs so it's not really fair.
If you loaded up a fully working CM7 ROM on a sensation it would obliterate the HD2, but that is far off, so for now the HD2 for me is the preferred phone. I may even wait for some quad core action before I upgrade.
with hd2 in some ROMs you can get 3000 points in quadrant with a bit of overclocking and of course playing around ppp/rmnet, switching roms, you can go up 3,3mbps in download, but we got an awesome development on this awesome phone, and we're still waiting for new Desire Kernel and GB to solve all current problems
i will not buy the htc sensation because i can buy 3 hd2 with that price, and i wouldn't feel the BIG difference, but in the future, sgs2 will be my phone (i never buyed a phone >180€, maybe i'll have to wait 2 years and i'll use rock solid custom ROMs )
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I used a sensation for about 2 weeks, couldn't wait to get back on my HD2, the stock ROM on the sensation to me is pretty bad, the UI lagged, the camera was ok but 8mp isn't a must have for me. It didn't seem to open apps that much faster than my current CM7 ROM, 4G was slightly faster than HSDPA, I dunno, just didn't wow me.
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Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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Do you think it's worth the money, especially when there's the g2x for a much cheaper price?
I'd take a Sensation over the g2x because
1) there is going to be much much more development for it.
2) qHD
3) the g2x will probably never be able to run Sense.
evereste said:
Have to disagree, the Sensataion is far superior on every level, the camera/video is arguably the best out there, the colours are vivid (dense and rich), the speed is obviously faster, it boots in seconds. Opens apps very quickly (as quick as my g2x which has been modded with cy 7, netflix and web browsing, lightening on the 4g network... It feels very comfortable to hold, and you don't sense your holding a large phone, great design..Don't get me wrong, I love my Hd2 (I've owned about 4 or more) and the spare battery helps. But honestly, the Sensation is a truly exceptionaldevice... The camera and video is quite incredible....
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I agree with you, the Sensation IS superior on every level. But it's not so incredibly better to warrant purchasing a new $600 phone. (Unless you have tons of disposable income.)
I know that the Sensation bootloader just got unlocked (or at least is planning to become unlocked in the near future according to HTC). So that'll give it some hacking support, but still....
Yes, the camera is much better, but nothing to blow someone out of the water.
For comparison, I went from a HTC: G1 original Android phone, to a HD2, and patiently waited with the WinMo 6.5 until Android on SD was released. It's a WORLD of difference between a Android HD2 and an original G1.
I think I can justify waiting for a Samsung Hercules, or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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or a Samsung Galaxy 3D.
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whaaaa??
is that foreal?
orangekid said:
whaaaa??
is that foreal?
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Samsung's answer to the HTC Evo 3D and LG Optimus 3D is set to arrive in Q4, making it the perfect Christmas present.
The Samsung Galaxy 3D is said to be very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S2, with a 1.2GHz dual-core processor and 4.3-inch touchscreen.
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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what a lot of us dont really get the point is to accept that yes..the HD2 is getting old and yes other HTC device's are getting better hardware and software in comparison with the HD2.
However we still claim HD2 to be the best device..just because we have the power to run multiple OS's. No doubt thats a strong point but we will have to let it go someday.
I am thinking myself to go for the HTC Sensation....but doesnt mean i will not use my HD2...
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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No, the reason is that we can run multiple ROMs of the same OS optimized to run about as well/better than the stock sensation ROM, the only thing the sensation has over the HD2 IMO is the camera and 1080p playback, other than that I would much rather have CM7 on my HD2.
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
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No, what I actually mean to say, is although hardware and software is getting better and better on other devices, it's worth it to wait and continue using a still very relevant HD2, updating the ROM's to current OS's, so you can hold off buying a new phone and instead save money to get an even BETTER piece of hardware 4-6 months down the road.
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yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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true that. but look after a point we too know that a native android device will still have an advantage over our Hd2 roms. You know...i have been running the American android SD version for months now..but when it comes to NAND somehow I cant make my mind...i still love WM6.5 and the battery life is great....something which i am a little skeptical on nand android !
yeah...of course i agree....we can continue to use it i believe atleast for the next 1-2 year..unless somesort of amazing phone technology comes up making my HD2 obsolete.
my friend has a Thunderbolt and now he wants a Sensation...!! lol...
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Getting rid of a Thunderbolt for a Sensation is ridiculous.
This is a really bad phone for anyone looking for an Android/HTC phone.
It's slow, imposs to root and has such a small screen.
AVOID.
PS, get yourself a HTC Desire S, beast of a phone.
iamlegendfam said:
This is a really bad phone for anyone looking for an Android/HTC phone.
It's slow, imposs to root and has such a small screen.
AVOID.
PS, get yourself a HTC Desire S, beast of a phone.
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Don't be a really bad troll.
It's Stupid, imposs to reason ans has such a small...
AVOID.
PS, get yourself a carrot, best for others.
Frustration make you angry, isn't it?
I got a child who have 3 and I know it is difficult...
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
Buy a iPhone 5..... ;-)
I have my legend since 1 year and I know it isn't the best phone but I'm happy that I don't havebourht a wildfire *.*
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its not bad phone.. just old phone ..
I'm back using mine after using a chacha for a couple of months, fancied a change!
Nice to be using proper custom Rom again too
Sure it's a bit slow but its well made, probably last longer than the chacha.
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Bad troll is obvious.
I'm using the phone for over a year now, and I absolutely love it. It's fast (oc'd), works great and the battery life is fine (3 days normal use). What a little under- and overclocking can do to a phone !
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Bad troll is obvious.
I'm using the phone for over a year now, and I absolutely love it. It's fast (oc'd), works great and the battery life is fine (3 days normal use). What a little under- and overclocking can do to a phone !
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Both legend's cpu, gpu are too slow for me even cpu is overclocked
And not enough ram is also a big problem
Launcher is killed after web browsing or playing games
Waiting for the Nexus Prime, and dont want to get a slow phone again.....
I find the legend to be a great phone. Not the fastest phone but it gets the job done in a small metallic package. I'm afraid we will not see to many 3.2 inch phones in the future...the trend is really big displays now. I guess i'll just have to settle with 3.7 inch.
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Guys, this Phone is 1,5 years old. It´s just outdated.
Although, Htc built it for Design Users, not for Power Users. Legend has one of the best looking case of all phones.
Just changed to HTC sensation, which also has a unibody frame, last week.
Bad troll is bad. Seriously.. ?
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Bad troll is bad. Seriously.. ?
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Sirius.
I love my Legend, It's better than my wifes Wildfire and more stylish than the other phones. Best of all, it's mine and I can do what I want too it and it does what I require just as well as my friends Desire HD or sensation, the difference is theirs is a bit quicker
HTC need to come out with the Legend S in a few months, I think it should have these specs: 4.3"/4.5" screen, 2Ghz quad core, 1Gb Ram, 32Gb on board with SD slot for more, along with the usual wifi/BT/Radio etc
That'll make it a Legendary phone
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Sirius.
I love my Legend, It's better than my wifes Wildfire and more stylish than the other phones. Best of all, it's mine and I can do what I want too it and it does what I require just as well as my friends Desire HD or sensation, the difference is theirs is a bit quicker
HTC need to come out with the Legend S in a few months, I think it should have these specs: 4.3"/4.5" screen, 2Ghz quad core, 1Gb Ram, 32Gb on board with SD slot for more, along with the usual wifi/BT/Radio etc
That'll make it a Legendary phone
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I hope too!!
Darn you all
Problem with being in Canada is that it's one of the most expensive countries for a cell phone plan in the world. We don't have 2-year contracts, our max is 3. And if you try to land on a 1- or 2-year committment, it wouldn't be as economically wise as to buy it outright, which I did, but regret.
Wildfire S here is $250, Galaxy Gio is $70, Legend was bought for $400. Oh noes. So that means I'll be lugging this device here for another year after you all move on (it's no-contract, but it's the prime time where I actually earn enough cash to actually spend it on another mobile device).
Unless, you know, I win the lottery.
I disagree. Legend is a great phone.
Do not think rooting a Legend is hard challenge. The custom ROMs are also very good.
Not to mention the design - the aluminium block is one of the best smartphone exterior I have ever seen!
And the display size - it's not the biggest in the smartphone portfolio, but it's still pocket size, which I think is great. After all, I want phone, not tablet for my jeans..
I've had my Legend for 10 months now, Best ruddy phone I've ever owned, I've owned about 12-13 phones over the past 10 years, this one is the best, "for me". It may not be the fastest phone, it may not have the most memory, it may not have the biggest screen, it doesn't have a dual core, but thats fine by me.
When I got my phone, I really loved HTC sense, Eclair and Froyo, which I loved even more, how ever, now that I have rooted my phone and seen what's out there in the way of alternative roms, I must now admit, the stock HTC with sense rom really lets this phone down, hell, Blay0's rooted version of Froyo is awesome.
My opinion is at the end of the day, the hardware is great and it really all comes down to the ROM, and the stock HTC is a bit of a fail....
Oh BTW, the physical size of the Legend is also a winner for me, my wife has a desire HD, ruddy thing doesn't even fit in my hand comfortabily!
I have my Legend over a year and its (except a small screen) the realy legend! its survived a lot of thig, with a two scratches only on the body.
now i have HD2, and now take care to not fall even with two feet :S
Legend isn't bad, it's just an old mid-range phone ...
it has everything I need for my daily activities in addition to handy size.
I don't need anything better for now.